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Voici les derni�res synth�ses de nouvelles yougoslaves �labor�es par Fr�d�ric Delorca, avec l�aide de Robert Pontnau (pour la lecture de la presse serbe, bulgare et mac�donienne) et publi�es sous http://ns.cnlcontact.com/delorca/french/homef.htm Ces informations, actualis�es et archiv�es depuis plus d�un an, sont destin�es � contre-balancer ou nuancer les comptes-rendus de la situation yougoslave tels qu�ils sont d�livr�s par les m�dias dominants.


******** 20 octobre 2000 ********


- Gouvernement f�d�ral yougoslave


Le parti du pr�sident mont�n�grin Djukanovic a refus� de collaborer � la constitution du nouveau gouvernement du pr�sident Kostunica au terme de sa visite � Podgorica hier, o� il a re�u un accueil extr�mement froid, � un niveau protocolaire tr�s bas (RFE - http://www.centraleurope.com/yugoslaviatoday/news.php3?id=211226§ion=default). Les partisans de Mila Djukanovic demandent toujours l�ind�pendance de leur Etat. leur pr�sident quant � lui souhaite une union de deux Etats permettant � chacun des deux une repr�sentation dans les instances internationales. Le Parti social-d�mocrate lui, bien qu�il consid�re que la Yougoslavie n�a pas d�avenir, estime que Podgorica devrait coop�rer avec Belgrade � la veille des �lections.


Apr�s que l��missaire de l�OSCE Albert Rohan ait annonc� qu�il n�y aura pas d�aide internationale � la Serbie si le SPS si�ge au gouvernement f�d�ral, le premier-ministre potentiel Predrag Bulatovic a annonc� qu�il va r�unir le comit� central du Parti du Peuple mont�n�grin samedi pour qu�il d�cide de rompre son alliance avec le SPS. Selon le quotidien Vijesti de mercredi, Predrag Bulatovic est entr� en conflit violent avec Momir Bulatovic, leader du PPM, qui souhaitait que son parti d�fende l�id�e d�une pr�sence de ministres socialistes serbes au gouvernement f�d�ral. Le PPM pourait �tre sur le point d��clater.


Selon les derniers r�sultats publi�s par la Commission f�d�rale, le SPS et la YUL ont 44 si�ges � la Chambre des citoyens et ODS (DOS) 58. Le PRS en d�tient 5, l�Alliance des Hongrois de Voivodine un. Au sein de la chambre haute, la gauche garde sept si�ges, DOS 10, les radicaux 2 et le Parti du renouveau serbe 1.


- Gouvernement de Serbie


Les ministres du Parti radical ont d�missionn� du gouvernement de Serbie estimant que ce gouvernement n�a plus les moyens de fonctionner et refusant de prendre part plus avant au putsch constitutionnel organis� par la coaltion ODS (http://news.freeb92.net/)


- La Grande Manipulation


Sous le titre : � La chute pr�par�e de Milosevic � Christophe Ch�telot et Natalie Nougayr�de d�taillent les aspects pr�m�dit�s du coup d�Etat du 5 octobre 2000 � Belgrade. L�article s�ouvre sur une citation du g�n�ral Vuk Obradovic ancien porte-parole de l�arm�e f�d�rale yougoslave qui d�clare �On ne peut jamais planifier � 100% ce genre d��v�nement. Tout s�est pass� pour le mieux�. Le g�n�ral ajout� �Ce fut un d�sordre� bien organis�. Nous avions un plan d�action.� � Tous les acteurs de cet �octobre serbe�, comme le nomment des journaux de Belgrade, n�ont pas encore parl� mais il semble bien que sur la �fulgurante� r�volution populaire plane l�ombre d�uncomplot ourdi de l�int�rieur et que c�est la conjonction des deux �l�ments qui aura �t� fatale � Slobodan Milosevic. � commentent les deux journalistes qui d�taillent des �l�ments tr�s clairs : le parlement n��tait pratiquement pas d�fendu, la pr�sence organis�e par le maire de Cacak, de parachutistes de la 63e brigade bas�e � Nis ralli�s � l�opposition, des policiers en civil �quip�s de talkies-walkies. Des supporteurs du club de football Etoile rouge avaient�t� sollicit�s pour participer � l�insurrection. Une �bonne coop�ration� �tait assur�e avec Otpor. Des camions remplis de pierres et un bulldozer faisaient partie du cort�ge et les cibles des manifestants avaient �t� d�sign�es � l�avance.


� Paradoxe de cette Serbie o� la force de frappe des d�mocrates allait �tre, ce jour-l�, une bande de jeunes ayant tremp�, de pr�s ou de loin, dans les crimes de guerre des ann�es 1990� � notent perfidement les journalistes : Cacak a fourni les gros-bras, � Belgrade les chefs de la police et de l�arm�e se ralliaient en douce � l�opposition, persuad�s de le fair notamment par la r�sistance de la mine de Kolubara.


Tout �tait pr�par� y compris la prise des m�dias socialistes. Le r�cit du journal sur ce point est tr�s minutieux.


Sans le ralliement des forces arm�es, les manifestations auraient d�g�n�r� en un bain de sang. Un des facteurs de ce ralliement, selon Le Monde : l�amertume de la d�faite au Kosovo. Mais Le Monde ne cache rien non plus du r�le des Occidentaux : 70 millions de dollars chiffre mentionn� par le Washington Post, tandis que les milieux d�opposition serbes parlent plut�t de 22 millions de dollars pour l�ann�e 2000, programmes de l�Union europ�enne tels qu� �Ecoles pour la d�mocratie� acc�l�r�s en p�riode d��lection. Le gouvernement norv�gien, par l�interm�diaire de son charg� d�affaires � Belgrade, accordait des aides aux �tudiants. Des instituts de sondages financ�s par l�Occident se penchaient sur le profil id�al du candidat susceptible de l�emporter contre Milosevic. � Selon des m�thodes employ�es auparavant par des ONG en Slovaquie en 1998 (�lections l�gislatives qui men�rent � la chute du premier ministre autoritaire Vladimir Meciar) et en Croatie en 1999 (lors de la pr�paration des l�gislatives pr�vues pour novembre, avant que le calendrier ne soit bouscul� par la maladie et le d�c�s de Franjo Tudjman), l�une des priorit�s fix�es en Serbie �tait de �faire sortir le vote des jeunes�. (�) Des concerts �taient organis�s (�Rock pour le vote�), des campagnes d�affichage, pr�par�es selon des m�thodes de marketing occidentales, �taient lanc�es. Des autocollants humoristiques, des caricatures de Milosevic, fleurissaient partout. Le dirigeant d�un m�dia d�opposition � Belgrade raconte comment des rencontres eurent lieu avec des repr�sentants d�ONG slovaques et croates, venus � Belgrade dans les mois pr�c�dant le scrutin. � (Le Monde - http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,2320,seq-2044-108143-QUO,00.html) L�article en dit long sur les moyens que l�Occident s�arroge pour �carter du pouvoir des r�gimes qui lui d�plaisent. Quelle qu�ait �t� la volont� r�elle de la population serbe concrenant le changement politique, la manipulation occidentale r�v�l�e aujourd�hui dans toute son ampleur a quelque chose de profond�ment choquant.


- Kosovo


Cinq familles serbes ont quitt� le nord de Mitrovica depuis un mois parce que leur s�curit� n�est pas assur�e selon un repr�sentant du Parti d�mocratique serbe au Kosovo, tandis que la MINUK reconstruit des maisons albanaises � Kosovska Mitrovica-nord mais aucune maison serbe dans la partie sud (Serbia-Info : http://www.serbia-info.com/news/2000-10/20/20949.html ). Un rapport de 89 pages de l�OSCE d�nonce les violations des droits de l�homme au Kosovo sous la responsabilit� de l�administrateur Kouchner et l�orientation anti-serbe du syst�me de justice kosovar (AFP - http://www.centraleurope.com/yugoslaviatoday/news.php3?id=210843§ion=Kosovo)


- Etats-Unis d�Am�rique


Selon Associated Press, un �missaire des Etat-Unis s�est rendu � Podgorica pour recommander au pr�sident Djukanovic d�abandonner son projet de s�cession du Montenegro. L�option de Washington serait aujourd�hui d�obtenir la constitution de trois R�publiques au sein de la Yougoslave : Montenegro-Serbie-Kosovo (AP - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20001015/aponline161209_000.htm)


******** 19 octobre 2000 ********


- Economie


Reuters du 19 octobre et d�autres m�dias �voquent la situation �conomqiue catastrophique de la Serbie. L�inflation des douze derniers mois s��levait � 120 %, le ch�mage � 30 et le salaire moyen � 90 par mois. Les gens survivent gr�ce aux aides de la diaspora 250 millions de marks of par mois, et � l��conomie parall�le. L�UE a promis 173 millions de dollars d�assistance hivernale mais selon un consailler de l�Economics Institute, il en faudrait au moins 500. L�envoy� de l�ONU dans les Balkans Carl Bildt a estim� que les aides devaient �tre mesur�es afin de ne pas transformer la Serbie en pays du tiers-monde d�pendant de l�aide et ultra-endett�. La dette ext�rieure serbe est d�j� de 14 Md de dollars (Reuters - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001019/wl/yugoslavia_economy_dc_3.html). Selon nos calculs le produit national brut serbe pourrait s��lever � un peu plus de 10 Md de dollars (chiffre optimiste �tabli sur la base d�un PNB par habitant de l�ordre de 1500 dollars par habitant en 1996, et qui int�gre � la fois les destructions de 1999 et la perte du Kosovo). Cela signifierait un dette sup�rieure au PNB, alorsque, � titre de comparaison la Russie avait une dette externe de 120 milliards en 1998 pour un PNB de 450 environ (soit environ 25 % du PNB). La Mac�doine en
1997 avait un PNB de 3,5 Md de dollars et une dette externe de 34 % du PNB. Cependant le probl�me du calcul de la dette serbe, compte tenu de la succession d�Etat en Yougoslavie en 1992 reste assez complexe. Il est certain en revanche que la Serbie n�a aucun moyen d�honorer ses remboursements d�emprunts puisque les infrastructures sont largement d�truites et que les rares entreprises viables ont d�j� �t� privatis�es.


- Kosovo


Voice Of Russia a critiqu� les prochaines �lections locales kosovares du
28 octobre comme �tant une nouvelle initiative pour d�manteler la Yougoslavie. WorldNetDaily.com rappelle que de la m�me fa�on la Gr�ce avait critiqu� l�organisation l�Albanie parce qu�elle emp�che la minorit� grecque de voter sur son territoire. Le gouvernement albanais reporche � des politiciens grecs de soutenir des �lans s�cessionnistes au sein de la minorit� grecque dans ce pays. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_westerman_news/20001019_xnwes_moscow_con.shtml )


******** 18 octobre 2000 ********


Selon une interview de Zarko Korac accord�e � l�hebdomadaire Globus, un des responsables de DOS (ODS), le pr�sident du TPIY Claude Jorda n�exclut pas l�hypoth�se d�un proc�s de M. Milosevic en Serbie (Cable News � Reuters)


******** 17 octobre 2000 ********


- Fin de la Yougoslavie ?


Le journal Le Monde se r�jouit de ce que M. Kostunica ait annonc� dans le Figaro-magazine du 14 octobre que � Si les peuples serbe et mont�n�grin le veulent bien � le terme � Yougoslavie sera supprim� �. � En supprimant le mot Yougoslavie, M. Kostunica mettrait ainsi fin � une usurpation � �crit le journaliste Daniel Vernet en conclusion de son article (Le Monde du 17 octobre 2000). Evidemment l�article ne fait aucune mention du projet de coexistence multinethnique que rec�le ce terme.


******** 15 octobre 2000 ********


- Pressions sur la Serbie


Les lobbies pro-musulman et pro-albanais fran�ais (l�Association Sarajevo et le Comit� Kosovo) font � nouveau entendre leur voix pour accentuer la pression sur la Serbie dans un article publi� dans Le Monde � Serbie : devoir de vigilance �). Rappelant que la Serbie est selon eux responsable � d�une politique d�agression et de purification ethnique �, les intellectuels extr�mistes demandent � l�Occident d�exiger de Belgrade : la reconnaissance de l�int�grit� de la Bosnie, le respect d�une r�solution 1244 du Conseil de s�curit� de l�Onu interpr�t�e dans les perspective de l�ind�pendance du Kosovo, qu�elle renonce � la tutelle sur le Mont�n�gro, et qu�elle coop�re avec le TPI. Les auteurs de ce br�lot sont MM. Jeanson, Dizdarevic, Lazar, A. Joxe, et Mme MF Allain (Le Monde 15-16 octobre 2000 p.15)

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Who lies Kostunica?
> http://www.sps.org.yu/eng/index-n.htm

GRADSKI ODBOR SPS
FOTO SVEDOM-HANSTVO VANDALSKOG PONAM-^JANJA
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SPORAZUM O RASPISIVANJU VANREDNIH PARLAMENTARNIH IZBORA U
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IZJAVA ZORANA ANM-PELKOVIM-FA, GENERALNOG SEKRETARA SOCIJALISTIM-HKE
PARTIJE SRBIJE
> http://www.sps.org.yu/index-ne.htm


2. Materiali dai siti internet di JUL e BORBA

>> http://www.ecircle.it/an_ecircle/articles/read?
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SPEECH OF PROF. DR. MIRA MARKOVIC AT THE
LEFT BLOC PROMOTION IN VELIKO GRADISTE
> http://www.jul.org.yu/indexen.htm

Socialist Official Zivorad Igic: Milosevic Symbol of
Freedom, SPS Should Change Nothing
> http://209.197.77.95/daily.html


3. Interview with Mihajlo Markovic, former vice president of the
Socialist Party of Serbia
'A counter-revolution, and not all that velvety'

>> http://www.ecircle.it/an_ecircle/articles/read?
ecircleid�979&msgnr=4&month=0&year=0&msgidQ6806&sb=0 (prima parte)
>> http://www.ecircle.it/an_ecircle/articles/read?
ecircleid�979&msgnr=3&month=0&year=0&msgidQ6807&sb=0 (seconda parte)


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"Noi vogliamo essere una colonia"

Chi sono questi "esperti" del G-17 che l'opposizione
vuole mettere al potere?
Che faranno Kustunica e Djindjic se prendono il potere
a Belgrado? Il loro programma � quello del G-17,
gruppo di economisti jugoslavi di tendenza FMI pura e
dura. Dal passato molto rivelatore.

Michel Chossudovsky & Jared Israel*

"Noi vogliamo essere una colonia aperta e una societ�
aperta", ha dichiarato
Veselin Vukotic, coordinatore del G-17, intervistato
il 14 luglio 99 ("The News Hour with Jim Lehrer", US
Public Television).

Il G-17 ama dare l'impressione di essere indipendente
e di orientamento jugoslavo. In realt� � finanziato
dal "Center for International Private Enterprise" che
dipende dal "National Endowment for Democracy" (NED).
Il NED � stato creato nel 1983 per risolvere un
problema della CIA. Questa finanziava intellettuali e
leader di opinione nel mondo, ma, "quando queste
attivit� clandestine dovessero essere rivelate,
l'effetto sarebbe disastroso", sottolineava il
Washington Post del 22 settembre 91.
Il NED fu dunque creato come paravento: "Molte delle
nostre attivit� attuali venivano fatte dalla CIA
clandestinamente gi� da 25 anni".
C'� di pi�. Gli economisti del G-17 occupano
importanti posti in seno alla Banca Mondiale e al
Fondo Monetario Internazionale. Se l'opposizione
"democratica" viene al potere, saranno loro che
gestiranno l'economia jugoslava, perch� il FMI esige
sempre che i suoi uomini esercitino le funzioni
dirigenziali.
Il programma del G-17 contiene le stesse misure
distruttive imposte in Russia, Ucraina, Bulgaria, Per�
e in molti altri paesi. Dapprima l'FMI forza i
governi a sbarazzarsi delle protezioni sociali:
sussidi per vitto o alloggio, trasporti o cure mediche
gratuite. Poi, attraverso manipolazioni economiche e
nuove leggi, mette in fallimento le imprese pubbliche
e private. E allora piccole bande di ladri
internazionali possono ricomprarle per niente.
Vukotic ha licenziato 600.000 lavoratori jugoslavi!
Il membro pi� esperto del G-17 si chiama Veselin
Vukotic. Nel 1989, ministro delle privatizzazioni nel
governo Markovic, impose il "Financial Operations
Act", un piano della Banca Mondiale che liquid� il 50%
dell'indistria jugoslava! 1.100 aziende eliminate tra
il gennaio 1989 e il settembre 1990. 614.000 operai
licenziati su un totale di 2,7 milioni! Zone pi�
colpite: Serbia (soprattutto il Kosovo9,
Bosnia-Erzegovina e Macedonia. Affossamento dei
salari, liquidazione dei programmi sociali, esplosione
della disoccupazione. Ecco Vukotic.
Che vuole, adesso, tornare al potere. In effetti
lavora gi� per il primo ministro montenegrino, che
l'ha nominato Capo della Commissione per le
Privatizzazioni. Su Internet abbiamo recentemente
scoperto una pubblicit� del Ministero del Commercio
estero ... "Montenegro: si cercano managers del Fondo
di privatizzazione". Essi potrebbero "ristrutturare"
le imprese privatizzate, licenziare i lavoratori e
vendere i pezzi migliori.
Il ministero USA promette che "questo dovrebbe essere
molto redditizio".
Nel giugno 2000, nel momento in cui le espulsioni dei
Srbi raggiungevano il massimo, Vukotic ha richiesto
che il Kosovo abbia la sua propria moneta, separata
dal dinaro jugoslavo!
Vujovic ha messo l'Ucraina in fallimento. Altra figura
di punta del G-17: Dusan Vujovic, economista
pensionato della Banca Mondiale. Nell'agosto 2000 ha
imposto all'Ucraina un altro "pacchetto" devastante.
Il disastro ucraino era iniziato nell'autunno 94 con
la firma di un accordo con il FMI. L'Ucraina ha
ricevuto un prestito di 360 milioni di dollari, ben
poco in cambio di quello che gli hanno imposto. Il FMI
ha esigito che lo Stato cessasse di controllare il
tasso di scambio della moneta. Quella � andata a picco
e il prezzo del pane � aumentato del 300% in una
notte. L'elettricit� del 600%. I trasporti pubblici:
900%. Sono stati imposti prezzi in dollari a una
popolazione che guadagnava 10 dollari al mese.
Il credito congelato cos� come il rincaro
dell'elettricit� hanno distrutto l'industria pubblica
e privata. Gli speculatori internazionali si fanno
avanti.
Il mercato dei cereali � stato deregolamentato e
aperto alle svendite degli Stati Uniti. Esportatrice
di cereali, l'Ucraina � stata ridotta a mendicare un
aiuto alimentare agli USA e all'Unione Europea. Grazie
al FMI l'Ucraina � diventata un protettorato
americano-tedesco. In rovina.
Grazie a Bogetic e al FMI, il 90% dei Bulgari vivono
sotto la soglia di povert�.
Il Dr. Zeliko Bogetic � stato un medico dell'FMI nel
momento di numerosi trattamenti da choc. Ogni volta il
paziente muore. Nel 94-96 egli ha giocato un ruolo
maggiore per spingere la Bulgaria ad adottare un
"programma di aggiustamento strutturale". Liquidando
tutte le protezioni sociali: controllo dei prezzi,
sussidio alimentare, alloggiativo e sanitario. La
povert� � divnuta di massa. Nel 97 le pensioni sono
state ridotte a due dollari al mese, secondo le
statistiche della Banca Mondiale. Che ammette che il
90% dei bulgari vive sotto la soglia di povert�.

Cosa significher� per la Jugoslavia l'arrivo al potere
dell'"opposizione democratica" e le riforme stile FMI?
L'applicazione dei metodi che sono stati imposti alla
Russia, all'Ucraina o alla Bulgaria. In Russia i
salari sono stati ridotti dell'86% nel primo anno di
riforme e l'attivit� economica, gi� scarsa, �
diminuita della met�. Ora,la storia mostra che l'FMI �
particolarmente spietata verso i paesi che sono stati
ribelli.


* Michel Chossudovsky, economista canadese, autore tra
l'altro di "La Globalisation de la Pauvret�".

Jared Isra�l � editore di uno dei migliori siti al
mondo sulla Jugoslavia

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1. Is the German-Troops-In-Yugoslavia Dispatch Real?
2. Do not Weep, Yugoslavia!
3. I Remain Optimistic Because the Only Other Option Is Suicide

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Is the German-Troops-In-Yugoslavia Dispatch Real?

On 10/12 we posted a dispatch from German "AP" in which German Foreign
Minister Joschka Fischer is quoted as calling for the German Army to
permanently occupy Yugoslavia. Several people have raised the question:
are we sure this dispatch is real? One gentleman wrote:

<< Are they nuts? Is it a fake dispatch? I can see how Bundeswehr would
be "greeted" in Yugoslavia. Joschka probably thinks the rest of
Yugoslavia
is like Kosovo. Even kids would shower them with stones. Will SS and
Gestapo follow? The fellow should be locked up in an asylum. >>

We're not competent to judge whether they're nuts, but the dispatch is
authentic. It does indeed come from 'German AP'. Here's what happened
and
how we checked the authenticity:

1) A reader in Germany wrote us wondering why no Website critical of
NATO
had posted an 'AP' dispatch he'd found on the German language Yahoo
Website. (Some people have written us that "AP doesn't have a German
Website." Perhaps not, but 'AP' does have a German language
service which issues dispatches and Yahoo does post these dispatches on
its German language Website.)

The German reader translated part of the dispatch into English.

It was amazing. Could German Foreign Minister Fischer actually have
said
he wants to permanently station the German Army in Yugoslavia? Could he,
a
leader of the country has been trying to destroy Yugoslavia for a
hundred
years, and which committed and supported the worst atrocities in
Yugoslavia
during World War II - could he really have said that Yugoslavs need to
learn democratic culture in order to relate to Germany? Was he aware
that,
when the Germans set up a puppet regime in Belgrade during World War II
and
demanded that the quislings round up the Jews, the quislings refused?
Does
Fischer know that the German commander then
responded that the Serbs had "low culture"?

Could Fischer have actually said these things?

It did not seem unlikely that the German Foreign Ministry would want to
permanently station troops in Yugoslavia. But could Fischer have been so
reckless as to admit it publicly?

None of us at Emperor's Clothes were personally acquainted with the
reader
who sent us the email. We decided to investigate thoroughly before
posting:

1) First we went to http://de.news.yahoo.com/4/ . That's the German
Yahoo
site where the reader said he found the article. Scrolling down to the
phrase "Nachrichten suchen" which means "news search" , we typed in
"Fischer will Jugoslawien mit Bundeswehr helfen" (Fischer wants German
Army
to help Yugoslavia) We clicked the usual button and were taken to the
web
address "http://de.news.yahoo.com/001011/12/14aun.html" This URL had the
right title, ("Fischer will Jugoslawien mit Bundeswehr helfen"), but
when
we clicked on it we got the message "Seite nicht gefunden" or "Website
not
found". So the article had been there but now it was gone...

Curious. And also curious that the other links on the page worked fine.
(Note: In case the link were to be removed entirely, we have made
copies
of the entire web page; if it is still there when you check you might
want
to do likewise.)

So now we knew the 'AP' dispatch existed but we couldn't be sure our
German reader had sent us an accurate text. We contacted a writer for
Emperor's Clothes who works for a German outfit that subscribes to
'German
AP'. He found the dispatch. He did an impromptu phone translation. His
translation matched what the German reader had sent us almost word for
word
and the meaning was identical. So now we had the actual dispatch, just
as
it been sent out by 'German AP'. That dispatch is posted at the end of
this
article.

Was the Fischer Story Suppressed? And Why?

This 'AP' dispatch is big news.

We subscribe to Lexis Nexis. It allows us to instantly scan thousands
of
English language and non-English language newspapers, TV news programs
and
wire services (not including 'German AP') We went to Lexis and typed in:
Fischer and Bundeswehr or "German army" and Yugoslavia.
There were no entries. Had no newspaper, TV news program, or wire
service
in the Western world picked up this highly newsworthy story?

We called people in Germany. None of them had seen the Fischer story in
the German media.

'AP-Germany' is a self-contained entity but of course it is read by
people
from newspapers and news services around the world.

Why hasn't this sensational story been reported?

The only explanation we can think of is: it was suppressed.

Perhaps Fischer revealed a plan he was not supposed to reveal, a plan
for
German troops to be sent into Yugoslavia in the event that certain
forces
succeed in creating such instability and chaos that "a firm hand is
needed." Perhaps after Fischer blabbed and 'German AP' erred by
reporting
his speech there was a hasty effort at damage control. This would
explain
the dispatch first being posted at German Yahoo and then apparently
being
pulled and it would explain the fact that newspapers and TV stations
failed
to report Fischer's remarks.

Taken alongside a slew of highly provocative and destabilizing actions
by
the Djindjic and Kostunica forces in Yugoslavia, this statement by
Fischer,
and the apparent suppression of the news reporting that he made this
statement, are ominous.

Below is the exact text of the 'German AP' dispatch followed by the
English translation.

German Text

The top part of the 'AP' dispatch gives the date and identifies the
dispatch as coming from 'AP'. Following that the comes the category,
"Bundestag/Jugoslawien/Fischer", which means
"Parliament/Yugoslavia/Fischer" and then the headline. The text is the
same as the English, which follows.

11.10. 17:29 ap 4

Bundestag/Jugoslawien/Fischer

Fischer will Jugoslawien mit Bundeswehr helfen

Utl: Demokratie als Voraussetzung für dauerhaften Frieden

Berlin (AP) Bundesaußenminister Joschka Fischer hat sich am Mittwoch im
Bundestag dafür ausgesprochen, sich in Jugoslawien nicht nur materiell
zu
engagieren, sondern dauerhaft mit der Bundeswehr und mit zivilen Kräften
vor Ort zu sein. Es biete sich nun die Chance, eine Demokratie in einem
sich einigenden Europa zu schaffen. Das wiedervereinigte Deutschland
habe eine besondere Verantwortung dazu beizutragen, dass sich die
Demokratie in Serbien konsolidiere.

Demokratie sei Voraussetzung für einen dauerhaften Frieden auf dem
Balkan.

Es sei richtig gewesen, der großserbischen Politik des jugoslawischen
Präsidenten Slobodan Milosevic Einhalt zu gebieten und sich auf Seiten
der
demokratischen Opposition zu engagieren, sagte Fischer. Das blutige
Morden
auf dem Balkan könne nun ein Ende

haben. Der Stabilitätspakt müsse dafür eingesetzt werden, sich unter
anderem an der Räumung der Donau zu beteiligen. Zudem solle eine
demokratische Kultur aufgebaut werden, um die Beziehungen zwischen
Deutschland und Serbien zu normalisieren. Erste Schritte seien durch die
Aufhebung des Öl- und Flugembargos durch die EU gemacht worden.

So könne Serbien auf dem Weg nach Europa begleitet werden. Nach den
Worten
Fischers müssen diejenigen zur Rechenschaft gezogen werden, die
schwerste
Schuld auf sich geladen haben. Vorrang habe zunächst jedoch, dass die
demokratischen Veränderungen friedlich durchgesetzt würden und sich
Gerechtigkeit durchsetze. Der westliche Balkan sei Teil einer
europäischen
Gesamtverantwortung.

Ende

AP/str/rg

111728 okt 00

English translation

Fischer wants German Army to help Yugoslavia.

(Berlin), AP, Oct. 11, 2000

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer, addressing Parliament on
Wednesday, expressed his opinion that Germany should not only provide
material help to Yugoslavia but that the Bundeswehr [the German Army]
and
non-military organizations should establish a permanent presence there.
He
declared that this was a unique chance to create a democracy in the
context
of further European unification.

Reunited Germany has a special responsibility for stabilizing democracy
in
Serbia. Democracy, said Mr. Fischer, is the basis for a lasting peace in
the Balkans. But the priority is for the moment that the democratic
changes
be carried out peacefully and that justice prevail. The Western Balkans
is
a part of the European comprehensive responsibility.

It was truly correct at the time to stop Slobodan Milosevich's policy
of
Greater Serbia and to engage oneself on the side of the democratic
opposition, says Joschka Fischer. Now the bloody murdering in the
Balkans
can be stopped. The Stability Pact has to be used, among other things,
for
the clearing of the Danube. Also democratic culture has to be built up
[in
Serbia] to make possible the normalization of relations between Germany
and
Serbia. The first steps have been taken through the lifting of the oil
and
the flight embargoes by the European Union. Now Serbia can be
accompanied
on its route toward Europe. In the words of Fischer, all those who have
made themselves guilty of grave crimes have to be brought to justice.

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The URL for this article is
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/doncheva/rumors.htm

Do not Weep, Yugoslavia!

Rumors of Serb Refugee Camps
by Blagovesta Doncheva (9-16-2000)

The CIA Boss was in Bulgaria recently: reason for and aim of visit -
the
Yugo Coup. Task fulfilled. The CIA salutes and flies somewhere else to
organize another coup in the interest of Big Profit.

Now the FBI Boss is here. Some say the FBI is the USA's Gestapo. Some
say
the visit is proof that the USA's Gestapo has chosen Bulgaria for its
Gestapo base regarding Yugoslavs. Some say the FBI Boss' visit to
Bulgaria
is mainly practical - confirmation and looking over the chosen
prisons or adapted former concentration camps and other suitable places
for the Serbs that will be kidnapped, dragged here and lectured on
democracy using some specific Gestapo-FBI methods before being killed.
Some
say the Serbs will be very grateful indeed when at last they are
mercifully
killed. Some say the Serbs dragged here will be represented to the
Bulgarian public (that happens to see them) as "refugees". There is a
talk
about building "refugee camps" in Bulgaria. Some say the Americans have
reconstructed an old concentration camp on the Danube island of Belene
for
a "Serb refugee" camp. Some think they will prefer the regions in
Western
Bulgaria near the boundary with Yugoslavia. The terrain there is
mountainous, sparsely populated and rarely visited. Some of the people
who
say these things have connections with high ranking police officers.
Others
have knowledge of the secret machineries' work in such cases. It cannot
be
proved. But it seems logical enough.

PS - Since writing that I read an official statement that the FBI will
have a permanent office in Bulgaria. It was announced in the Bulgarian
media. I think it is a kind of a proof of the rumors that circulate here
about so-called "Serb Refugee Camps"...

Every Second Mother
Bulgaria Today - Yugoslavia Tomorrow
by Madlen Kircheva and Blagovesta Doncheva (9-16-2000)

"...And you will pick the fruit of grapevine and of
olive tree you have not planted..." Old
Testament

Today the Bulgarian daily 'SEGA' screams from its first page:

"EVERY SECOND BULGARIAN
MOTHER BANISHES HER CHILD
ABROAD."

Every second mother.

At one of his regular star-performances on Bulgarian TV some days ago,
the
US Ambassador, properly called "Governor", Richard Miles, consoled the
Bulgarians in proper fatherly fashion, advising them not to cry about
the
young emigrants.

"They will come back, enriched with the
experience, accumulated in the USA when life in
Bulgaria gets better."

Who drives the children of Bulgaria away?

The one who turned our life in hell the last ten years. The young
emigrants were the hope of our country, they are its intellectual
treasure,
created by their parents' efforts and the efforts of the whole society.
That unique human potential has been constructed over the course of
years
by means of the Bulgarian social, health and educational systems - all
of
them deliberately and thouroughly annihilated today.

And now that same insatiable cannibal, who has plundered our country
and
life, is consuming the children without having invested even half a cent
or
a minimal effort to give them birth, to raise or educate them. And later
he
will use them as Janissaries (1) for the full extermination of their
birth
cradle: Bulgaria.

The cynicism of Governor Miles can be compared only to that of a rich
slave-owner from the South states. The United States now is acquiring a
quality offspring raised in a foreign farm. Why should Governor Miles
"improve" life in this US protectorate, Bulgaria? And for whom, in fact,
are the US Special Forces, the International Monetary Fund and the World
Bank conducting their deadly "reforms" i this country, ruining both our
people and Homeland?

After some years there will not be any young people here, no children.
And
the old ones will be dead... Don't deceive yourselves: the rape of our
Homeland is carried out only and solely in the interests of the
Metropolis
Beyond the Ocean and the colonial servants here, known as a political
"elite" - nobody knows why.

Do not weep, Yugoslavia!

Madlen Kircheva and Blagovesta Doncheva

October 9, 2000 - Sofia, Bulgaria

(By the way we have sent the above to all Bulgarian media. It has not
been
published. )

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Footnotes and Further Reading

(1) Our Bulgarian authors use the term "Janissaries" which is explained
in
an excedrpt from the article 'Kostunica & the Yugoslav Election' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/kostunic.htm

In the article I was discussing the spending of immense amounts of US
dollars to finance an "independent" (?!) apparatus in order to
destablizie
Yugoslavia. The article continues:

This lavish use of money is linked to what could be called a
Jannisary strategy. The old Ottoman Empire used this strategy
to control the Serbs. They would kidnap Serbian children,
bring them to Turkey at a young age, raise him as Muslims,
and then send him back as the elite Ottoman army.

It happens today, though of course the appearance is
somewhat different. It is in essence what the US elite does
with young people from all over the world, especially
Yugoslavia. They are literally (or figuratively, by means of TV
and movies) brought to the US and other Western capitals
and dazzled with glamour and glitz, with superficiality made
into a virtue - and then sent back to dumb old Yugoslavia.
You can see these young Yugoslavs at elite US universitieis -
aloof, super cool, ashamed of their country. Ashamed of
dumb old Yugoslavia that has more richness of culture than all
Western Europe and the US put together. Full of grubby
farmers and outmoded economic notions etc. etc. In Belgrade
these Janissaries flock to institutions such as "free" radio
B292. I interviewed two staff members from B292. The
interviews are posted on Emperor's Clothes. These young
people have the attitude of smug treason. Consider this
exchange with Gordan Paunovic:

" Jared: [Are you getting any] money coming from foundations in
the US?

"Paunovic: Probably, but I don't know which Foundations. I
am pretty much pissed off in putting this kind of
argumentation, like Soros equals B92. That really comes from
people who are not in a position to see what we are doing.
We will take money from anyone. To make a good
production on many levels, from radio, to TV and video
productions to Internet, Books, music. You need money."

Elsewhere he says:

" Paunovic: And another thing I don't like the way we are -
Like Robin Cook and Jamie Shea they made a huge damage
to our image when Robin Cooke said in a Press Conference
which was directly broadcast on CNN "You know we helped
B92 to get satellite access" and things like that."

But then he and the news editor, whom I also interviewed,
admitted it was true. It was true they were getting time on the
BBC satellite - the BBC, which supported the bombing of
Yugoslavia. But Gordan scorns those who think there's
anything shameful about this. After all, one needs money to do
glamorous things.

This Janissary mentality, contemptuous of the ordinary people
of Yugoslavia, must be supplied with money. Absent money
and it fails. The new global culture is just money and a paint
job.

And because they loathe the backward (i.e. truly cultured)
soul of their country they are useful tools. Hooked on the
most superficial aspects of Western life, in their hearts they
can justify anything. No price is too high for other people to
pay for "modernizing" (i.e. subjugating) their country.
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/kostunic.htm

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I Remain Optimistic Because the Only Other Option Is Suicide

BELGRADE, Oct. 8 - We received the following letter from a TiM reader in
Belgrade, who asked to be identified only by his initials - M.L., but
whose
full identity is known to TiM:

"Dear Sir, I'd like to express my views of the events in Belgrade and
Serbia over the past couple of days, as well as my reactions to some of
your articles. I spoke last night to some of my friends who participated
in
the events. They told me that a great many demonstrators, especially
those
coming from outside Belgrade, were armed! One of the DOS leaders
admitted
that they wouldn't come back unless they achieve their goal, no matter
what
the cost (in human lives).

I kept silent throughout the night. It is obvious that anything I say
would
create a chorus of hysterical disapproval. Any common sense had left
their
heads long since. I imagine you experienced the same when you warned
about
Milosevic 10 years ago.

As for your remark that quislings waste no time, get a load of this: I
had
just heard on TV that Zoran Djindjic said in an interview to a
Zagreb(!!!)
weekly "Nacional" that there will be no more Yugoslavia, but an
alliance
of states of Serbia and Montenegro with a common foreign policy. And
that
there would be no more federal President, Parliament or Government.

Hmm... I wonder what Mr. Kostunica has to say about that?

Talking about TV, since the "liberation" of the media, they have been
none
short of disastrous. Reactions from Clinton, Blair, Chirac on the
"democratic changes", greetings from Zagreb, Sarajevo... O, Sancta
Simplicitas!!!

I would like to reply to Mr. Alverson, who I truly believe is a dear
friend
of my people but has obviously fallen under this hysteria (see (see An
American at the Serb "Revolution"): He compared this to 96/97 protests.
It
is, to say the least, inappropriate. In 96/97, the streets were
inhabited
by people wanting democracy and freedom. This October, it was a mob out
for
blood (just go and see the movie "Gladiator," and see if there is any
difference between the mob in the Coliseum and that in Belgrade).

You say we will never forget the spring of 1999, Mr.Alverson. Well, I'm
afraid some already have. And judging by who has taken over the media,
in
time a great many will.

In spite of everything I still remain optimistic simply because I have
to.
The only other option is suicide."

M.L., Belgrade, Serbia

Truth in Media

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Global Reflexion - Amsterdam - The Netherlands

Dear friends,
Please find here English version of this continuing Journal.
Comments and suggestions welcome.

Michel Collon

Journal from Belgrade - Monday 16th of October
DOS in coalition against nature with SNP and without elections?
MICHEL COLLON

* Negociations between DOS and SNP
* Vo�vodina's: ethnic tension starts. Another split?
* Danube: for whose pockets?

Representatives of DOS (Djindjic, Korac, Batic) and president
Kostunica (in
this order) have discussed with Socialist National Party of
Montenegro
problem of Federal government today. They agreed about some main
principles.
So, we can conclude that SNP is going to establish coalition with DOS,
not
Serbian leftist on the federal level. It is true that SNP ask to
include
representatives of SPS in the Federal government, and repeat once
again that
they were in ethnic coalition with Serbian leftist. But, DOS refused
that.
There is very important question - people in Montenegro voted for SNP
and
president M., not for DOS. So, they did not vote for coalition of DOS
and
SNP. As we wrote before, it could be also political suicide for
montenrgin
SNP of Bulatovic. They regained at last elections by fighting againt
rightist and pro-West Djukanovic's party. How will they explain next
year
that they fight against Western and rightist party at Montenegrin
level and
unite with the same kind of party at Jugoslav level?
There is even less legality and legitimacy on the Republic level.
DOS, even
without elections and obviously blackmailing SPS, is going to enter
the
Republic government even before elections this December. One of the
strongest party in actual Republic parliament - Serbian Radical Party
refuses to take part in this arrangement. They think that they will
give
legitimacy to all illegal activities of DOS (taking over many
institutions
and others...) by participation in this government. And, even more,
they
are going to share responsibility for politics of DOS till the
elections.
They even do not think that early elections are necessary because
Republic
government has majority in parliament.
Has SPS accepted negotiation as the only way to keep peace on the
streets.
Or may be they have some other ideas?

Ethnic tension in Vo�vodina
There are some reports of worsening the ethnic situation in Vojvodina.
There
are more and more Hungarian or Croatian flags, marking of Serbian
houses in
multiethnic villages, pressure on Hungarians who are members of non
national
Hungarian parties, hostility toward Serbian refuges there. I have
heard that
there are attempts to "keep Vojvodina money in Vojvodia", e.g. not to
send
taxes to the common Republic budget.
Previously, we wrote that the programme of DOS was completely
contradictory, mixing together separatist and unitarist parties. But
the
proof comes even sooner than expected.
More on Vo�vodina in next issues. I had meetings in Novi Sad a few
days ago.

Danube: for whose pockets?
At this moment there is only one assistance of EU to remain after all
these
promises and a lot of money - cleaning of the Danube. But, new attack
on our
independence - one Frenchman was chosen as the president of the
Commission
for that job. There is no doubt that Western company is going to get
that
job.








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Ma qual'e' il programma dell' "Opposizione Democratica Serba" (DOS), che
ha
appena preso il potere in Jugoslavia?

Chi fosse curioso puo' trovarlo sul sito di Otpor, il movimento di
studenti
anti-Milosevic che tanto credito ha trovato anche presso pezzi della
sinistra nostrana. L'indirizzo e':

http://www.otpor.net/news/083000-DOS-program.html

Consiglio di leggere soprattutto la seconda parte del documento, con il
programma in 56 punti per il primo anno di governo. Sottomissione al
FMI,
privatizzazioni e libero scambio, riduzione delle tasse e della spesa
pubblica, costruzione di autostrade e oleodotti, sostegni alle famiglie
per
fare figli ... Particolarmente perversi sono i punti 47-50 che prevedono
un
prestito da parte dei governi occidentali per costituire un fondo
temporaneo di assistenza ai cittadini bisognosi: una mazzetta di dollari
a
testa per comprare il consenso politico oggi e asservire l'economia
jugoslava al pagamento degli interessi per i decenni futuri.

luca nencini (dalla lista del Comitato Scienziate/i contro la guerra)

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Ecco la lista (e i siti) delle organizzazioni
che compongono il DOS.
(da Voce Operaia)


1 DEMOKRATSKA STRANKA
www.ds.org.yu

2 ASOCIJACIJA NEZAVISNIH I SLOBODNIH SINDIKATA
www.asns.org.yu

3 GRA�ANSKI SAVEZ SRBIJE
www.gradjanskisavez.org.yu

4 DEMOHRI�CANSKA STRANKA SRBIJE
www.dhss.org.yu

5 NOVA SRBIJA
www.nova-srbija.org.yu

6 DEMOKRATSKA STRANKA SRBIJE
http://www.dss.org.yu/

7 DEMOKRATSKA ALTERNATIVA
http://www.da.org.yu/

8 NOVA DEMOKRATIJA
http://www.novademokratija.org.yu/

9 SOCIJALDEMOKRATSKA UNIJA
http://www.sdu.org.yu/

10 LIGA SOCIJALDEMOKRATA VOJVODINE
http://www.lsv.org.yu/

11 SAVEZ VOJVO�ANSKIH MA�ARA
www.vmsz.org.yu

12 REFORMSKA DEMOKRATSKA STRANKA VOJVODINE
http://www.rdsv.org.yu/

13 SOCIJALDEMOKRATIJA
http://www.socijaldemokratija.org.yu/

14 KOALICIJA VOJVODINA
http://www.koalicijavojvodina.org.yu/

15 POKRET ZA DEMOKRATSKU SRBIJU
www.pokret.org.yu

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Is the German-Troops-In-Yugoslavia Dispatch Real?
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/real.htm

Do not Weep, Yugoslavia! Rumors of Serb Refugee Camps
by Blagovesta Doncheva (9-16-2000)
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/doncheva/rumors.htm

I Remain Optimistic Because the Only Other Option Is Suicide
M.L., Belgrade, Serbia (TiM Bulletin)

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(ANSA) - BIARRITZ, 14 OTT - Il nuovo presidente jugoslavo
Vojislav Kostunica non si opporrebbe a referendum separati sul
futuro della Jugoslavia da tenersi in Serbia e Montenegro. Lo ha
riferito lo stesso Kostunica oggi a Biarritz dove ha incontrato
i leader europei. Kostunica ha detto che il nome Jugoslavia
non rispecchia attualmente il ''Paese in cui viviamo'' e che la
sua ''idea'' sarebbe quella di ''Serbia e Montenegro'', anche se
questo, al momento, non rappresenta un problema prioritario.
Kostunica ha ribadito la sua volonta' di tenera una Jugoslavia
''unita'' ed ha ribadito l' idea gia' espressa di indire un
referendum in Serbia e Montenegro. ''Eventualmente accettero'
anche un referndum separato in MOntenegro'', ha aggiunto.(ANSA)


KOSTUNICA FAVOURS REFERENDUM IN MONTENEGRO
PODGORICA, October 16 (Tanjug) Yugoslav President Vojislav
Kostunica told a Montenegrin newspaper on Monday he was in favour of
holding a referendum in that Yugoslav republic to sound out the people
on
continuing in a common state with Serbia.
"I have supported the idea of holding a referendum at one point
to
sound out the people in both federal units if they want to live in a
common
state.
"If it is the will of the people to live in the same state,
then a
democratic dialogue should be opened on how to organise and redefine
mutual
relations, which practically means adopting a new constitution.
"Nothing in my position has changed," Kostunica told the
influential Vijesti newspaper.
"A referendum, then, is a way to sound out the will of the
people
in both federal units. I have been in favour of it, and I would agree
also
to a referendum in only one of the federal units, viz. Montenegro, to
determine what the people in that republic want.
"I could not subscribe to any other course of action.
"The only thing acceptable to me would be an expression of the
will of the people in one or both of the federal units in a democratic
way.
"My position has not changed one iota. My information and
belief
is that a majority is in favour of living in a common state, and I have
nothing against this sentiment being put to the test," Kostunica said.

G17 PLUS MEMBER MARKOVIC: CHANCE SHOULD BE SEIZED AT ONCE
BELGRADE, October 16 (Tanjug) G17 Plus Coordinator for
National
and Cultural Revival Predrag Markovic said on Monday that Yugoslavia
could
take advantage of the given opportunity and get the promised financial
aid
from European Union (E.U.) countries in the next two months, paving the
way
to speedier economic revival.
Speaking at a regular press conference, Markovic explained that
the aid granted to Yugoslavia was based on the political marketing of
these
countries and indicated that "the zeal will not last long and the chance
should be seized at once, not step by step."
Underscoring that it was necessary as soon as possible to set
up a
federal and a transitional republican government so that the country
could
function normally, Markovic said the indecisiveness in connection with
setting up these governments "is a result of political
irresponsibility."
Markovic said it was his opinion that the federal government
should be a politicalexpert one.


F.R. YUGOSLAVIA - EU

STABILITY PACT COORDINATOR HOMBACH URGES SPEEDY E.U. ACTIONS
BERLIN, October 16 (Tanjug) E.U. Balkans Stability Pact
Coordinator, Germany's Bodo Hombach has urged the Union to eliminate all
administrative problems that could thwart a speedy implementation of a
decision made at the Biarritz summit, under which emergency aid worth
200
million euros (391 million Dmarks) should be provided for Serbia.
The Union must act quickly in order that the people of Serbia
be
prepared for the winter season, whereas specific projects for
revitalizing
the Serbian economy must not be delayed for a single day, the Berlin
conservative daily Die Welt quoted on Monday Hombach as saying. Hombach
added that in a way, Serbia represented a test for the E.U., which is
now
expected to refute the common belief that its actions are slow and
inefficient.
According to Hombach, the initial 200 million euros will be
sufficient for the purpose. In the spring of 2001, a big donor
conference
should follow, at which projects for Serbia should be assessed in
relation
to the entire region.

FORMER YUGOSLAVIA'S DEBTS TO BE DISCUSSED AT ZAGREB SUMMIT
LONDON, October 15 (Tanjug) The succession and the debts of
the
former Yugoslavia will be discussed at the summit of the European Union
and
Balkan states at the end of next month in Zagreb, the European Foreign
Policy Commissioner Chris Patten told the BBC Sunday.
Noting that an emergency economic aid package of 200 million
euros
for Yugoslavia was approved on Saturday at the request of the European
Commission, Patten said he would travel to Serbia in about ten days
accompanied by World Bank experts to assess the medium and long tern
needs
of its population.
The approved aid will be directed through projects similar to
last
year's Energy for Democracy, when aid was allocated directly to
municipalities, he said.


F.R. YUGOSLAVIA - MACEDONIA

GLIGOROV: SERBIA HEART OF BALKANS
SKOPJE, October 16 (Tanjug) Former Macedonian president Kiro
Gligorov said on Monday that Yugoslavia, Serbia actually, was the heart
of
the Balkans for Europe and the world and thus the keen interest of major
world and European institutions and countries in the soonest possible
stabilization of the situation there.
Macedonia must also accept the reality that the world and
Europe
will invest large financial funds into Serbia, but this does not mean
that
Macedonia will be pushed to the fringes of the interest of Europe and
the
world, because the west still cares very much that peace should reign in
this state and that it should be a safe, Gligorov said in a statement
published in Monday's edition of the Skopje daily Jutarnji vesnik.
Gligorov supports the idea that something should change in the
Balkans, but he is adamant that borders should remain unchanged.
"The countries in the region should be linked economically,
without which Balkan countries cannot rely on more serious individual
progress, or on joining the European Union," Gligorov said in his
interview.

NO HURDLES BETWEEN YUGOSLAVIA AND MACEDONIA
SKOPJE, October 16 (Tanjug) Macedonian Prime Minister Ljupco
Georgijevski has said there were no longer any major obstacles on the
way
to overcoming all problems in relations between Macedonia and
Yugoslavia,
especially following the election of Vojislav Kostunica to the office of
new Yugoslav president.
Georgijevski told the Skopje daily Dnevnik that the most
important
thing at present was to resolve the biggest problem, marking the border
between Macedonia and Yugoslavia. He said he believed this issue would
be
closed very soon.
Regarding the continuity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia,
Georgijevski pointed out that President Kostunica had already announced
he
was ready to start from scratch.

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Journal de Belgrade -marted� 10 ottobre (ore 10).


Nuove elezioni il 19 dicembre. Le istituzioni sono sempre paralizzate da
violenze e minacce.

In momenti storici come questo, gli avvenimenti si succedono d'ora in ora e la
verit� del mattino � gi� superata la sera. Sotto la pressione dell'opposizione
e delle violenze, con uno Stato e con Istituzioni completamente paralizzate, il
Parlamento serbo si va autodissolvendo. Le prossime elezioni avranno luogo il
19 dicembre, con un nuovo sistema elettorale -quello proporzionale- e con una
sola circoscrizione elettorale per l'intero Paese. Ci� dovrebbe tornar di
vantaggio ai radicali, al Dos ma, anche, ai socialisti di Milosevic. A tutt'ora
si ignora se anche il Presidente serbo Milutinovic rassegner� le dimissioni.
Dalle elezioni usciranno gli stessi risultati? Si avr� una situazione di doppio
potere?
In due mesi, i risultati probabilmente saranno gli stessi, dato che la gente
non avr� ancora compreso, per esperienza, che significa concretamente un
governo del Dos, dal punto di vista del lavoro e dei salari.
Certo, le violenze e le attivit� mafiose, promosse da Djindjic hanno scosso
anche una parte dei sostenitori di Kostunica; ma l'euforia della vittoria e le
persistenti illusioni ("Vivremo meglio", "guadagneremo 5000 dollari:

l'opposizione l'ha promesso"), aggiunte alla perdita di prestigio di Milosevic,
considerato finora l'uomo forte, ed all'indebolimento del suo Partito, son
tutti elementi, che prefigurano un risultato favorevole al Dos. I partiti di
Seaselj e di Draskovic -che hanno, intrambi, duramente criticato le violenze
mafiose- potrebbero riguadagnar terreno, ma la cosa � tutt'altro che certa.
Avremo, dunque, negli anni prossimi una situazione di doppio potere -con un
governo jugoslavo sottoposto all'autorit� di Milosevic, ed un governo serbo
sotto quella, invece, di Djindjic e dell'Occidente? Si tratterebbe, nel caso,
di una situazione storica assai originale, ma anche esplosiva.
Il Dos preme o per un suo governo minoritario; o per un governo tecnico di
"esperti" oppure, infine, per un'alleanza Dos-Snp montenegrino. Si dice perfino
che il SPS -sottoposto a terribili pressioni- potrebbe accettare l'ingresso del
Dos nel governo jugoslavo. In questo caso, si avrebbe un governo d'unione
nazionale Sps-Dos-radicali-Spo (Draskovic).
Come che sia, gli scontri dovrebbero proseguire: una partecipazione al potere
�, solo, una soluzione temporanea, essendo troppo forti gli appetiti che si
confrontano.

Come che sia, per i progressisti di tutto il mondo sar� importante seguire con
estrema attenzione la situazione e di badar bene a questi partiti jugoslavi,
cosiddetti "democratici", ma il cui programma � in realt� quello del Fmi. I
prossimi mesi avranno grande importanza, perch� la partita non � ancora tutta
giocata.
Come gi� abbiamo indicato, una buon parte degli elettori di Kostunica resta
contraria alla Nato. "Son contento -m'ha detto Darko, giurista- che Milosevic
abbia perso, perch� non ha portato la lotta fino in fondo in difesa dei serbi
in Croazia e in Bosnia. Milosevic ha trascurato tutti quei giovani, che furono
vittime di quelle guerre. Con il nuovo regime, tuttavia, ci troveremo di fronte
ad un problema ancor pi� grave: la Nato � in arrivo e noi non dovremo farla
passare."
Come spiegare la vittoria di Kostunica? Con un insieme di fattori, di cui la
pi� parte � stata gi� trattata negli articoli precedenti: 1) la vittoria della
Nato; 2) dieci anni di privazioni, in seguito allo strangolamento economico del
Paese; 3) il denaro della Cia, che � piovuto in grande abbondanza e che ha
provocato defezioni; 4) una intelligente campagna mediatica e psicologica a
proposito di Kostunica, presentato come l'uomo nuovo e credibile; 5) gli errori
del regime di Milosevic.
In primo luogo e fondamentalmente, c'� la vittoria della Nato, che � la
vittoria della violenza. Nella primavera del '99, nel momento pi� intenso dei
bombardamenti mirati su obiettivi civili (installazioni elettriche, serbatoi di
benzina, ponti, strade, ecc.), il generale statunitense Michael Short
dichiarava: "Sono convinto che se la gente non ha l'elettricit� per far
funzionare il frigorifero n� il gas per cucinare, se non pu� recarsi al lavoro
perch� i ponti sono distrutti e se non possono smettere di pensare alle bombe
che possono cadergli addosso in qualunque momento, verr� il momento in cui la
stessa gente dir� che con tutto ci� bisogna farla finita." Tutto ci�
significava il regime di Belgrado.
Ecco ci� che la Nato chiama delle elezioni democratiche. Ad esempio, la signora
Carla del Ponte -cos� detta imparziale magistrato internazionale, ma in realt�
semplice arma nelle mani di Washington, come un Tomahawk o un volgare agente
della Cia. Ebbene, questa signora ha dichiarato, in un comunicato del 6
ottobre: "E' giusto che esprima il mio turbamento per gli eventi drammatici,
che succedono a Belgrado. Auguro loro di aver pieno successo con la nuova
democrazia ." Curioso magistrato, sorprendente tribunale, che chiude gli occhi
di fronte al regno del terrore e della mafia in Kosovo ed ha il coraggio di
applaudire alla 'democrazia', pur continuando nel suo sporco lavoro di
demonizzazione dei Serbi!
Al momento non staremo a sviluppare gli altri fattori, che hanno contribuito
alla disfatta (che, per altro, abbiamo precedentemente trattato); su un quinto
fattore, per�, ci soffermeremo, perch� � tale da porci numerose domande.
Perch� non vi sono state contro-manifestazioni nelle strade?
Cosa pensano i lavoratori?
Perch� l'esercito non si � mosso?
Ieri, ho incontrato alcuni sindacalisti della provincia, che erano venuti per
parlare del mio libro "La Nato alla conquista del mondo" e per propormi una
conferenza per i loro iscritti e militanti. La loro organizzazione - di 35.000
membri- si presenta come indipendente ma, in realt�, � assai vicina al Partito
Socialista.
Naturalmente, ho colto l'occasione per interrogarli sull'attualit�, ricevendo
risposte vaghe, confuse, imbarazzate. Alla fine, uno di loro mi ha detto "Io ho
attaccato manifesti di Milosevic, per� ho votato Kostunica". Come si vede,
piena � la perdita di fiducia.
Domenica sono andato a Novi Sad, per osservare il secondo turno delle elezioni
in Voivodina. In un'intervista (che sar� pubblicata) Dusan Bajatovic,
segretario del Ps per la regione, mi ha detto: "Noi siamo un Partito molto
grande, con moltisimi quadri e dieci anni di potere. E' molto. C'� stata
rivalit� tra i quadri. Molti stavano nel nostro Partito non per motivi seri, ma
per interesse. E in un paese povero, essere iscritto al Partito suscita
appetiti. Il popolo ha visto gente arricchirsi dall'oggi al domani, senza
ragioni evidenti. Da dove veniva questo denaro? E la gente ne ha ricavato che
fosse la posizione di potere del Partito a produrre simili privilegi. Tuttavia,
la gran maggioranza dei membri del Partito � fatta di gente onesta e devota al
proprio Paese; anch'essi -ovviamente- davano giudizi severi su tale situazione.
Vi sono state anche accuse false contro dirigenti del partito e dello Stato, ma
in queste condizioni i membri del Partito non hanno potuto adeguatamente
ribattere a tali accuse".
Confessione interessante, anche se non chiarisce perch� tali arricchimenti e
privilegi non siano stati combattuti; forse perch� i beneficiari si trovavano
troppo in alto?
"Non c'� solo il Partito Socialista -mi spiega Branko, ingegnere. La Jul, che
si presenta con posizioni pi� marcate a sinistra rispetto al Partito
socialista, anch'essa ha perso la sua credibilit�: ne facevano parte troppo
ricchi signorotti; non si pu� avere una teoria di sinistra e una pratica di
destra."
Tuttavia, Branko aggiunge: "Non � che per questo bisogna gettarsi in braccio
alla destra. Dieci anni fa, gli Occidentali fecero le stesse promesse ai
Rumeni; ma io conosco bene la Romania, dove frequentemente mi conduce il mio
lavoro. Oggi, in Romania la situazione � talmente catastrofica, che vi pu�
capitare di incontrare -qui in Jugoslavia, a Pojurevac, ad es.- lavoratori
rumeni impiegati nelle campagne! E la Romania non patisce sanzioni."
Un altro intellettuale progressista, Darko, concorda ed aggiunge: "Milosevic
avrebbe dovuto fare come Castro, che si vede in continuazione andare a
discutere con la gente comune, con i contadini, allo scopo di capire come vanno
le cose, che cosa pensano, quali sono i loro problemi. Anche Cuba � attaccata,
ma si difende bene!"
Quando si cerca di valutare il peso rispettivo dei singoli fattori, bisogna
esser prudenti. I fatti su cui richiamiamo l'attenzione sono molti importanti e
vi torneremo sopra; non si tratta, per�, di fatti nuovi. Erano ben noti da
molto tempo e nessuno fa affidamento sull'onest� dell'opposizione, sulla sua
capacit� di combattere la corruzione. Bisogna sapere che, in queste elezioni,
il risultato del Ps � stato sostanzialmente stabile. L'autentico fatto nuovo �
che Dos ha vinto. Ne riparleremo.






La "lib�ration" des m�dias?

Interview d'un journaliste belgradois

Il est journaliste dans un grand quotidien de Belgrade. "Milan" - comme nous l'appellerons car r�v�ler son identit� le mettrait
en danger - "Milan" a v�cu de pr�s ce qu'on appelle la lib�ration des m�dias. Il n'est pas membre du SPS ("J'ai vot� Milosevic,
SPS, et aussi radical au niveau local"), mais n'appr�cie pas du tout la chasse aux sorci�res qui s'est d�clench�e. T�moignage.

MICHEL COLLON

Auparavant, y avait-il parmi vous des journalistes pas d'accord avec la ligne �ditoriale?
Milan. Bien sur, dans chaque m�dia, vous en aviez quelques uns. Certains �crivaient sur des sujets non sensibles. Mais d'autres
empochaient tout simplement leur salaire et ne venaient pas travailler! On leur disait: "Du moment que vous ne faites pas de
gr�ves, ni de troubles, pas de probl�mes." La Yougoslavie est probablement le seul pays au monde ou des choses pareilles se
passent. Faudra-t-il dire "se passaient"?

Une p�tition de journalistes a circul�, dit-on...
Milan. Oui, le vendredi, ces gens qui ne travaillaient pas ont fait une d�claration, accusant le r�dacteur en chef d'etre un
dictateur. Ils l'ont fait signer pour signature. On a dit que cela avait �t� sign� par de nombreux journalistes. Mais � moi et
� d'autres, on ne l'a jamais pr�sent�. Ils ont fait signer � des secr�taires et d'autres employ�s, disant apr�s que c'�taient
des journalistes. Ils ne l'ont pas remise au directeur, comme c'aurait �t� normal s'il y avait eu un probl�me � r�gler.

La meme chose, partout, au meme moment...
Et la r�action du directeur?
Milan. Il m'a dit: "C'est un plan, la meme chose se passe dans les autres journaux. Je pensais qu'il �tait parano! Mais
ensuite, mes coll�gues d'autres journaux m'ont dit que cela s'�tait pass� exactement de la meme facon chez eux.

Donc, c'�tait bien un plan soigneusement pr�par�?
Milan. C'est clair.

Beaucoup ont sign�?
Milan. Oui, mais il y a eu pression sur beaucoup de gens pour qu'ils signent: "Attention, les temps changent. Si vous ne signez
pas, quand nous arriverons au pouvoir, vous perdrez votre emploi."

"J'esp�re que je ne devrai pas employer ce que j'ai dans ma poche."
Et ensuite?
Milan. Chaque jour, nous avions r�union. Vendredi matin, on nous a dit: "On va �lire notre nouveau r�dacteur en chef, nous ne
voulons pas que des politiciens nous envoient quelqu'un de l'ext�rieur."Cinq minutes plus tard, quelqu'un arrivait. De
l'ext�rieur.
"Je suis votre nouveau r�dacteur en chef. "Ils" m'envoient. J'esp�re que je ne devrai pas employer ce que j'ai dans ma poche.
Et que vous serez assez intelligents pour que je ne doive pas changer vos articles. Personne ici n'a le droit de parler, vous
etes tous de vieux serpents. Vous devez vous laver vous- memes car vous avez �t� loyaux � ce gouvernement. Voil� ce que j'avais
� vous dire. Il n'y aura pas de questions."Et il est parti.
Les gens �taient estomaqu�s: "Pas de questions?!' Au pr�c�dent r�dacteur en chef, on puvait poser des questions.

Les journalistes sont-ils libres de couvrir des �v�nements comme le saccage des batiments SPS?
Milan. Non, ces articles volent � la poubelle. Mes coll�gues ont peur, ils n'osent pas discuter de tout ca. Nous vivons des
moments terribles.



JOURNAL DE BELGRADE - Mardi 10 octobre, 13 heures

Nouvelles �lections le 19 d�cembre
Les institutions sont toujours paralys�es
par les violences et les menaces

MICHEL COLLON

Dans de tels moments historiques, les �v�nements se bousculent d'heure en heure, et la v�rit� du matin est d�pass�e
l'apr�s-midi. Sous la pression de l'opposition et des violences qui se d�roulent ici, avec un Etat et des institutions
compl�tement paralys�s, le Parlement serbe vient de s'auto-dissoudre. Les prochaines �lections auront lieu le 19 d�cembre.
Avec un nouveau syst�me �lectoral: la proportionnelle, et une seule circonscription pour tout le pays. Ce qui devrait avantager
les radicaux de DOS, mais aussi les socialistes de Milosevic. On ne sait pas encore si le pr�sident serbe Milutinovic
d�missionnera �galement.

Les memes r�sultats? Une situation de double pouvoir?
Quels pourraient etre les r�sultats dans deux mois? Probablement les memes, les gens n'ayant pas encore eu l'exp�rience de ce
que signifierait concr�tement un gouvernement DOS pour leur emploi et leurs revenus. Certes, les violences et les activit�s
maffieuses d�velopp�es par Djindjic ont choqu� meme une partie des partisans de Kostunica. Mais l'euphorie de la victoire et la
persistance des illusions "On va vivre mieux, on gagnera 5.000 dollars comme l'opposition nous l'a promis", ces facteurs et
aussi la perte de prestige de l'homme fort Milosevic, ainsi que l'affaiblissement de son parti, tous ces �l�ments pr�figurent
un r�sultat favorable � DOS. Les partis de Seselj et de Draskovic - qui ont tous deux violemment critiqu� les violences
maffieuses - pourraient reprendre un peu du poil de la bete, mais ce n'est pas du tout certain.
Va-t-on alors se trouver, pendant les annees qui viennent, dans une situation de "double pouvoir" avec un gouvernement
yougoslave sous l'autorite de Milosevic et un gouvernement serbe sous l'autorite de Djindjic et de l'Occident? Ce serait une
situation historique assez originale et explosive. Mais ce n'est pas certain. DOS fait pression pour ses solutions: soit un
gouvernement minoritaire DOS, soit un gouvernement dit "technique" d'experts, soit une alliance DOS-SNP mont�negrin. On dit
aussi que le SPS - sous une pression terrible actuellement - pourrait accepter de faire entrer DOS dans le gouvernement
yougoslave; on aurait alors un gouvernement d'union nationale SPS-DOS-radicaux-SPO (Draskovic). Dans tous les cas, les
affrontements devraient se poursuivre. Un partage de pouvoir n'est jamais qu'une solution temporaire, et les app�tits en
pr�sence sont trop forts.

La partie n'est pas jou�e, mais la marge d'action est �troite
Quoi qu'il en soit, pour les progressistes du monde entier, il sera important de suivre cette situation attentivement et
d'ouvrir les yeux sur ces partis yougoslaves dits "d�mocratiques"mais dont le programme est en r�alit� celui du FMI. Les mois
� venir seront d'une grande importance, et la situation n'est pas encore d�finitivement jou�e.
Comme nous l'avons indiqu�, une bonne partie des �lecteurs de Kostunica reste anti-Otan: "Je suis content que Milosevic est
parti, m'a dit Darko, juriste. Car il n'a pas men� le combat jusqu'au bout pour d�fendre les Serbes en Croatie, puis en Bosnie.
Et il a n�glig� tous ces jeunes qui furent victimes de ces guerres. Mais avec ce nouveau r�gime, nous allons avoir un probl�me
encore plus grave. C'est l'Otan qui arrive ici. Nous ne devrons pas les laisser faire."

Les cinq raisons de la d�faite
Comment expliquer la victoire de Kostunica? Par un ensemble de facteurs dont la plupart ont �t� d�velopp�s dans de pr�c�dents
articles. 1. La violence de l'Otan. 2. Dix ann�es de privations par l'�tranglement �conomique du pays. 3. L'argent de la CIA
qui a coul� � flots et qui a notamment provoqu� des d�fections. 4. Une campagne m�diatico-psychologique intelligente autour de
l'homme neuf et cr�dible Kostunica. 5. Les erreurs du r�gime Milosevic.

D'abord, fondamentalement, c'est une victoire de l'Otan, une victoire de la violence. Au printemps 99, au plus fort des
bombardements visant des objectifs civils (installations �lectriques, approvisionnement en essence, routes, ponts...), le
g�n�ral US Michael Short d�clarait: "Je suis persuad� que si les gens n'ont pas de courant pour faire marcher leur frigo, pas
de gaz pour la cuisine, s'ils ne peuvent pas aller au travail parce que les ponts sont cass�s et s'ils n'arretent pas de penser
aux bombes qui peuvent tomber � tout moment, le temps viendra ou ils vont se dire qu'il faut en finir avec tout ca'. Tout ca,
c'�tait le r�gime de Belgrade.
Voil� ce que l'Otan appelle des �lections d�mocratiques. Tout comme Madame Carla Del Ponte, soi-disant magistrate
internationale impartiale, en r�alit� simple arme de Washington au meme titre qu'un Tomahawk ou un vulgaire espion de la CIA.
Cette dame vient de d�clarer: "Il est appropri� de ma part d'exprimer mon ravissement devant les �v�nements dramatiques se
d�roulant � Belgrade, je leur souhaite plein succ�s avec leur toute nouvelle d�mocratie." (Communiqu� du 6 octobre) Curieuse
magistrate, curieux tribunal, qui ferment les yeux sur le r�gne de la terreur et de la maffia au Kosovo et osent applaudir "la
d�mocratie"tout en continuant � se livrer � leur sale travail de satanisation des Serbes!

Pour l'instant, nous ne d�veloppons pas ici les autres facteurs de la d�faite (trait�s pr�c�demment), mais nous en venons au
cinqui�me facteur, sur lequel on nous pose beaucoup de questions. "Pourquoi n'y a-t-il pas eu de contre-manifestants dans la
rue?" "Que pensent les travailleurs?" "Pourquoi l'arm�e n'a-t-elle pas boug�?

Pourquoi le r�gime a perdu son soutien

Hier, j'ai rencontr� des syndicalistes de province, venus me voir pour parler de mon livre "L'Otan � la conquete du monde"et
m'inviter � venir donner une conf�rence devant leurs militants et affili�s. Leur organisation - qui s'affiche 'ind�pendante'
mais �tait tr�s proche du parti socialiste -compte 35.000 membres. Je les ai �videmment interrog�s sur la situation actuelle.
Je sentais leurs r�ponses vraiment vagues et confuses. Malaise. Finalement, un des responsables m'a dit: "J'ai coll� les
affiches de Milosevic que j'ai recues, mais j'ai vot� Kostunica."
Nous voici en plein coeur de la perte de confiance.
Dimanche, je suis all� � Novi Sad observer le second tour des �lections r�gionales de Voivodine. Dans une interview (a
paraitre) le secr�taire du parti socialiste pour la r�gion Dusan Bajatovic m� dit: "Nous sommes un tr�s grand parti, avec un
tr�s grand nombre de cadres, et dix ans au pouvoir, c'est beaucoup. Ce qui a provoqu� une comp�tition entre cadres. Beaucoup de
gens n'etaient pas dans notre parti pour des raisons s�rieuses, mais par int�ret. Et dans un pays pauvre vu, etre au parti
excite les app�tits. Le peuple a vu des gens s'enrichir du jour au lendemain et sans raison valable. Il y a eu beaucoup de cas.
D'ou venait cet argent? Et les gens ont pens� que c'�tait la position au SPS qui provoquait ces privil�ges.
La grande majorit� des membres sont cependant honnetes et d�vou�s � leur pays, et eux aussi jugeaient s�v�rement ces cas. Il y
a eu aussi des accusations fausses contre les dirigeants du SPS et de l'Etat, mais dans ces conditions, les membres n'ont pas
pu r�pondre correctement � ces attaques."
Aveu int�ressant. Reste �videmment � savoir pourquoi ces enrichissements et ces privil�ges n'ont pas �t� combattus. Parce que
les b�n�ficiaires �taient trop haut plac�s?

"Il n'y a pas que le SPS, m'explique Branko, ing�nieur. Le parti YUL qui se r�clame de positions encore plus � gauche que le
SPS, a aussi perdu sa cr�dibilit�. Il comptait en son sein de nombreux patrons tr�s riches. On ne peut pas avoir une th�orie de
gauche et une pratique de droite." Mais il ajoute: "Ce n'est pas pour ca qu'il faut se jeter dans les bras de la droite. Il y a
dix ans, les memes promesses occidentales ont �t� faites aux Roumains. Mais je connais ce pays, car mon travail m'y am�ne
souvent. A pr�sent, la situation y est tellement catastrophique que vous pouvez meme voir des travailleurs roumains occup�s
dans les champs, ici, en Yougoslavie, � Pojurevac! Et eux n'ont pas de sanctions."
Un autre intellectuel progressiste, Darko, pense de meme et ajoute: "Milosevic aurait du faire comme Castro. CElui-la on le
voit toujours aller discuter avec les simples gens, avec les paysans, pour voir comment ca va, ce qu�ls pensent, leurs
probl�mes. Cuba aussi est attaqu�, mais il se d�fend bien."

Quand on essaie d'�valuer le poids respectif de ces divers �l�ments, il faut se montrer prudent. Les faits que nous venons
d'indiquer sont tr�s importants et nous y reviendrons. Mais ils ne sont pas nouveaux, les gens savaient ca depuis longtemps. Et
personne n'a confiance dans l'honnetet� de l'opposition sur le plan de la corruption. il faut savoir qu'� ces �lections en fait
le SPS a reproduit � peu pr�s ses scores �lectoraux pr�c�dents. Le facteur nouveau, c'est la r�ussite de DOS. Nous y
reviendrons.

Qui viendra � Belgrade apr�s V�drine: Fischer, Kouchner et puis Albright?
Arrogant d�fil� des vainqueurs � Belgrade

MICHEL COLLON

Hubert V�drine, ministre francais des Affaires �trang�res, est venu � Belgrade. Le premier dirigeant occidental � venir
savourer la victoire du FMI et de l'Otan. Pourtant, V�drine, a �t� condamn� par un tribunal yougoslave pour sa participation
aux crimes des guerre commis par l'Otan dans ce pays.
De nombreux juristes internationaux et aussi l'organisation Amnesty International ont confirm� que l'Otan �tait bien coupable.
Monsieur le pr�sident Kostunica est toujours consid�r� comme tr�s soucieux de la l�galit�. Fera-t-il appliquer ce jugement?
Quoi qu'il en soit, le d�fil� des vainqueurs - arrogants et impudiques - a commenc� � Belgrade. La rumeur a circul� que Bernard
Kouchner souhaitait venir. Balon d'essai? C'�tait trop gros sans doute, car cet homme est tellement d�test� par tous les Serbes
qu'il aurait fallu une arm�e pour le prot�ger.
Par contre, Joshka Fischer est annonc� pour bientot. Mais il esp�re rencontrer un autre ministre des Affaires �trang�res, aux
ordres de l'Ouest.
Verra-t-on un jour Madeleine Albright venir c�l�brer son triomphe et se faire baiser la main � nouveau? Ce serait sans doute
trop maladroit de le faire en public. Le baise-main risque de rester platonique. Mais c'est bien elle qui a gagn�.
Pour l'instant du moins.

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JOURNAL FROM BELGRADE 14th OF OCTOBER ENGLISH

Journal from Belgrade - Saturday 14 October
"Who's is fucking with us, who's the liar?"
MICHEL COLLON

* Kostunica, Djindjic, Persici, V. Ilic
* SPS new strategy
* CIA's visit to Belgrade
* Feelings of ordinary people: "Who's fucking with us here, who is the liar?"
*
Kostunica seems now to be taking a firmer attitude, and trying to get a tighter grip on the rest of his DOS allies... He's also
accusing Djindjic & Co. for undermining his authority (in connection with illegal take-over of enterprises and institutions)
There's rumor that fights in DOS are well on the way, that Kostunica asked from Vuk Obradovic (to whom he trust the most, as
well as to Perisic) to stop the illegal take-over, and Obradovic refused, saying that this is necessary. About all this
Obradovic supposedly informed the rest of leaders in a DOS meeting where Kostunica wasn't present...
Velja Ilic (this guy from Cacak) was supposedly angry at Kostunica, saying " Has he no shame?! We did all the work, managed his
campaign, put him on presidential seat, and now he still wants to deal with them (SPS I suppose) in gloves!"
Perisic and Djindjic are making a pressure on Kostunica to oust general Pavkovic, and Djindjic even asked Djukanovic to make a
pressure on Kostunica to change all the generals (because Kostunica wouldn't listen to him, Djindjic)
Tonight SPS and DOS will have a meeting at 22h to continue the discussion about transitional government. But it has been
arranged that SPS, DOS, SPO and SRS will be in it. At midnight they will meet Milutinovic.
The session of Republic Skupstina is possibly at Saturday or Sunday....The problem is, radicals are still more-less refusing to
cooperate...
G17 is understandably very much against this kind of transitional government, they want expert government (and they will be
the EXPERTS I suppose!)

SPS new strategy
On SPS side, the 'Operation Renewal' tries to start. A new leadership was formed, combining the 'old' Milutinovic who whas
president of Serbia, and the 'young' Zoran Andjelkovic. I met this man personally when I made a report in Kosovo, last
February. As an animator for the Center of Peace and Tolerance, he was taking care of the interests of the Serbs victims of
present ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. He wrote a very well documented book about that, called "Days of Terror".
He is giving the impression of someone very concerned with human approach and contacts with the ordinary people. Something the
SPS undoubtedly lacked very much the last years, provoking his decline as it is explained in my interview with Jivadin
Jovanovic.
The discussion continues about the future role of Milosevic in the party.

CIA's visit to Belgrade
To my paper "Qui viendra � Belgrade?" writen last Tuesday about the visit of Hubert V�drine (and others) in Belgrade, you may
add the "key man". US ambassador in Budapest visited also Belgrade. Key man because he organised the all CIA-coup from Hungary.
Now coming to visit his subordinates.

Feelings of ordinary people
Ordinary people mostly feel like this: "I support Kostunica, he's honest, and the rest of DOS are all thieves and bastards,
especially Djindjic."
After the first wave of euphoria passed, people where actually shocked to see how DOS leaders (excluding Kostunica!) are not
exactly doing it by the book, and are using force instead of law...
So now DOS supporters are asking "Is this what we fought for? And what's the difference between former thieves (SPS, JUL) and
present thieves?"
People are also confused because they hear very conflicting statements of Kostunica, G17 plus and Djindjic on one side, then of
Djukanovic and Montenegrin socialists on the other, not to mention statements of NATO and EU officials which are getting to be
more careful and restricted...
In the meanwhile, people see sanctions are not all lifted (just flights and oil, but the oil never came from the West, and
JAT, the Yugoslavian airlines, already had many flights from Belgrade, so it does not make a big difference)
G17 is promising entrance in IMF, and entrance in EU eventually (which is such a blatant, monstrous lie, and most of the Serbs
know it!) Djindjic is promising the return of army and police to Kosovo, Kouchner is refusing, prices of things in the stores
have gone sky-high in the last couple of days....
So people see all that, and ask "who the hell is fucking with us here? who's the liar?"


Eternal fire
Djindjic denies to use paramilitary forces. But...

Yugoslav capital Belgrade hadn't been visited by such an astounding number of Western officials in a long time. Ministers,
politicians, diplomats, special representatives of the West are standing in a line for 7 days already, to congratulate newly
elected Yugoslav president Vojislav Kostunica on his "democratic victory" and give him a friendly pat on a shoulder.

"Democratic opposition of Serbia" (DOS) rallied people of Serbia to Belgrade on October 5th, for mass protest against ex
Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic. Escalation of this "peaceful protest" into street violence and take-over of power on the
streets was well-planed and well-coordinated, according to the latter admission of DOS leaders themselves. There was no
spontaneity about it. Desperately trying to avoid thus imposed "Bucharest scenario", Yugoslav army and police didn't react to
stop the masses.

Many euphemisms have been said since, to describe this counter-revolution. "Democratic revolution" says Zoran Djindjic, DOS
manager, trying to gild the lily.
"Velvet revolution", say people on the street, making a parallel with Prague. Perhaps they have already forgotten that their
"velvet" in Belgrade got soaked with some blood, and scorched with some flames too.

"What happened on October 5th was just a show for CNN, this was nothing. Real power-fight is yet to come. A counter-revolution
must be followed through to the end", says Srdjan Lukic (25), DOS supporter. True. And in Serbia these days, real
counter-revolution is going on indeed. Behind the scenes, behind closed doors, and far away from cameras and spot-lights.

Even with Slobodan Milosevic out of the way, DOS leaders are aware that they must keep their street-gained advantage, if they
want to win crucial state-power, Federal and Republical Parliament.
In Federal parliament, majority is held by left coalition; battle for Republical parliament is in full swing, where majority is
held by socialists and radicals.

In the meanwhile, "non-institutional" pressure is well on the way. "Groups of citizens" are entering state enterprises,
factories, institutions, even universities, demanding leadership to leave. Peacefully or by force.
DOS immediately denied accusations of Serbian government that it established "crisis headquarters" and temporary leaderships in
enterprises and institutions in the country, saying that employees themselves are toppling their leadership.
Still, letters of resignation are showering from ministers, directors, hospital wardens, university deans...some admit they
were pressured into it. Empty places are being filled by DOS members or sympathizers. DOS has put its hands also on Service of
payment, dealing with financial transactions.

All state-media are already controlled by Serbian "democrats", and one-sidedness in media-reports is horrifying.
"Crisis headquarters DOS will form in media are just temporary. This is just necessary until new government is constituted"
says Vladeta Jankovic, one of DOS leaders, in his statement for Tanjug state agency.

Blaming uncontrolled violence of the last days on "those who wouldn't accept obvious election-defeat", and underlining that
"justified people's revolt couldn't be controlled" Jankovic repeated once again there will be no revanchism, as president
Kostunica has promised.
But president Kostunica is a legalist, and a man of principles. Most of the people who are his present allies, however, are
not.

Even in "democracy", headquarters of Serbian socialist party (SPS) and Yugoslav Left (JUL) are being demolished, and their
functionaries threatened on daily basis.
"I am not and never was a member of any party, but I got beaten also, as an executive of state-enterprise. They must have
thought I am SPS too" states Ivica Indjic, director of supplies. "Maybe I should put letter "Dj" at the beginning of my last
name from now on" says Indjic with a bitter smile.

Maybe there's no need. As Beta agency reports, Zoran Djindjic denied on Tuesday the rumors that paramilitary forces, whose core
is made by members of his Democratic party, are operating in the country.

Nevertheless, in a vacuum until legal government is formed, it seems DOS is using "iron broom" to clean SPS and JUL out of
their positions, and out of its way.

And while NATO functionaries keep flocking to Belgrade to admire their own success perhaps, the "Eternal fire" on the obelisk
to victims of NATO bombing last year has been put out. As daily Novosti writes, "it has been done by someone, during the
establishing of democracy in the country". Perhaps not to bother high guests.

Velimir Ilic, mayor of Cacak,
explains the strategy for the insurrection
" Our preparation was very conspiracy. Even some people of DOS had no ideas what we were preparing"

Velimir Ilic, president of Cacak, interwiev VREME (12.
october), page 12 and 13
His people from Cacak come firs in front of Federal
parlament. They come in a line long 25 km aand they
brought with them: 200 tracks, 40 buses, cister with
woter, train with cars, buger etc.
Ilic explained that DOS was preparing all this for a
long time. Especialy with the inspektors and offisers
from the polie..

Did you had problems to convince them?
Ilic: No. Preparaation was very conspirativ. Even the
people from police never new for eachother until the
end. I wanted to hide them from problems. Among us we
had policemans in civilian, even from the most elite
forces from Belgrade. They helped us to get
informations what the police thinks, wheree are they
going and what can we expect on the road. We had with
us paraashouters, policemans with war expirianc,
bodybilders, trucckdrivers...
To Belgrade we went with 20-30 truck full with rocks
and 30 people who wore trowing roks on the police.
They run away. We had simple organization. We stole
motorolas (toky waky) from policemanss and we start
to talk andd confuse them. listening to the orders.
The police was specialy shoked when they saw
policemans with us. Those uniforms we bought long time
ago.
Ofcoursee, we had policemans in Belgrade who wworre
prepareed to give us informations. They give us
advices to bring a lot of mehanization. Even some
people from DOS had no idea what we worre planing to
do.
So many people in front of the federal parlament
helped us a lot, but without ooure conections in
police we wouldnt csucsided. They told us that they
have no orders to fire and that we have to stay until
15.30 because then they will let us in the Parlament
if we have enough people.
How long you worre planing all this?
Ilic: I was thinking a lot. Specialy last year wille a
was in the forest during the NATO bombing (hidding
from thee police). When I saw that police cant finde
me for 43 days I reaalised that they arre not well
orgaanized. Had of the police is stupid. Then I
reaalised why ourre demonstrations never sucsided - we
never atacked them!

Next page, VREME:
Police raddioconection was destroyed in wednesday
(untill friday morning)and they couldnt ask for
help.Days before that, during the blocade of towns,
demonstrators made atackes everywheree around the
city. Thee police had to go there and than they madee
barikades and stoped the conection between polise so
they couldt help eachother.
"Facts are: SDB (special police) withh their sourses
could stop and prevent everything that happend, but
they obviesly didnt want to do that".

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3. INTERVIW JIVADIN JOVANVIC
Interview exclusive de Jivadin Jovanovic, ministre yougoslave des Affaires �trang�res
"Pour chaque dollar que l'Ouest 'donnera' � la Yougoslavie, elle devra en rendre dix!"
La semaine derni�re, Solidaire donnait la parole � deux activistes d'Otpor, mouvement �tudiant anti-Milosevic. Aujourd'hui, �
Jivadin Jovanovic, ministre des Affaires �trang�res de Yougoslavie, et aussi un des dirigeants les plus importants du SPS de
Milosevic. Qui, en maintenant ses scores pr�c�dents, reste en fait le plus important parti. En ces jours troubl�s, des
centaines de journalistes internationaux cherchaient � interviewer un dirigeant socialiste. C'est l'envoy� sp�cial de Solidaire
qui a recueilli ces confidences....
MICHEL COLLON
Mercredi 11 octobre, 11 heures 30. Je p�n�tre dans le grand bureau ovale du ministre Jivadin Jovanovic. C'est probablement une
des derni�res fois qu'il s'y trouve... "Fin de r�gne" diront certains. "Eclipse avant un possible retour" r�pondront ceux qui
soulignent qu'avec 40% des voix (un score inchang�), le SPS (le parti socialiste de Milosevic) reste le parti le plus important
du pays et qu'elle est bien fragile la pr�sente coalition DOS: 18 partis dont les programmes se contredisent et dont les
promesses �lectorales seront impossibles � tenir. Tr�s jovial, riant souvent, Jovanovic pose aussi de nombreuses questions.
Trois heures d'entretien passionnant.

Comment allez-vous?
Jivadin Jovanovic. Je survis! Malgr� la visite tr�s d�plaisante, ce matin, d'une tro�ka de DOS, venue essayer de me forcer �
d�missionner. Se r�clamant "du pr�sident Kostunica", ils vont partout faire pression pour obliger tous ceux qui ont des mandats
l�gaux � partir. Je leur ai r�pondu que Monsieur Kostunica venait de jurer fid�lit� � la Constitution et que, d'apr�s celle-ci,
ce n'est pas le pr�sident mais le Premier ministre qui nomme les ministres. En public, ils r�clament le respect de la loi et un
fonctionnement normal des institutions mais, en r�alit�, ils font tout pour les d�truire! Ils recherchent le chaos.

DOS affirme que ce sont "les travailleurs qui prennent les usines en mains."
J. Jovanovic. Mais lorsque ce pays pratiquait "l'autogestion des entreprises par les travailleurs", la droite disait que
c'�tait une forme de dictature communiste. En r�alit�, aujourd'hui, c'est Zoran Djindjic , le chef du quartier-g�n�ral de DOS
et son vrai ma�tre (ndlr - un politicien de droite tr�s impopulaire pour avoir soutenu l'Otan), qui se d�p�che de s'emparer de
tout. Ils se ruent comme des hy�nes affam�es. Ces politiciens ne sont pas le peuple. Ils veulent arracher tout le pouvoir tout
de suite pour commencer � vendre le pays.

On a pu voir, � la t�l�vision, le directeur des douanes chass� de son bureau et remplac�, sous la menace des armes du
"Capitaine Dragan", chef d'une milice serbe active durant la guerre en Croatie. Une sc�ne qui a choqu� l'opinion...
J. Jovanovic. L'homme que Djindjic a plac� � la t�te des douanes avait �t� responsable des douanes auparavant. Il avait �t�
d�mis � cause de son casier judiciaire. Maintenant, il revient avec des armes pour s'emparer de ce poste! C'est cela un
"mouvement spontan� des masses"? Cela a tellement indign� la population que DOS a reconnu il s'agissait effectivement d'une
action ill�gale et qu'ils nommeront un nouveau directeur. Sur base de quelle loi? Ils n'en ont pas le pouvoir puisque c'est
toujours le gouvernement actuel qui est comp�tent.
Peu � peu, les gens vont comprendre. M�me dans DOS, il y a des gens honn�tes qui d�sapprouvent. Mais ils sont perdus, sans
influence. Le pr�sident Kostunica devrait se pr�occuper de cela, lui dont la r�putation est impeccable. Au parlement, il a jur�
fid�lit� � la Constitution. Eux la bafouent.

Mais pour l'instant, la majorit� de la population se r�jouit du "changement"...
J. Jovanovic. Quand les gens seront sans travail, quand ils verront les march�s pleins de produits occidentaux, mais qu'il
leur sera impossible de les acheter, quand ils subiront un syst�me o� on pourra arbitrairement les priver de leur emploi, quand
ils devront d�bourser des sommes �normes pour l'enseignement et les soins de sant� alors, ils comprendront.
Je reconnais que nos magasins ne sont pas tr�s impressionnants. Peu de produits allemands, fran�ais ou anglais. Mais la
plupart des gens peuvent s'acheter de tout, m�me des appareils m�nagers modernes. Il y aura un r�veil brutal. Les gens ne
peuvent pas r�ver tr�s longtemps de solutions-miracles.

L'Ouest promet d'aider financi�rement la Yougoslavie...
J. Jovanovic. Un peu d'argent viendra de l'Europe, et DOS le pr�sentera comme une "aide des pays amis". En r�alit�, ce ne sera
qu'un acompte avant d'acheter notre pays. Pour chaque dollar re�u, notre pays devra en rendre dix!

En fait, des dollars sont d�j� venus en Yougoslavie...
J. Jovanovic. Oui, les Etats-Unis ont publiquement reconnu avoir vers� 77,2 millions de dollars (environ 3,5 milliards FB)
pour aider l'opposition � renverser le gouvernement yougoslave. Et le 25 septembre, le Congr�s votait un nouveau cr�dit de 105
millions de dollars (4,7 milliards FB).

Avez-vous protest� � l'ONU contre cette ing�rence dans les �lections?
J. Jovanovic. Bien s�r. Cette d�stabilisation de notre pays a �t� organis�e � partir de Budapest, avec des agences am�ricaines
implant�es �galement � Sofia, Skopje et ailleurs et compos�es d'agents de la CIA. La Convention de Vienne interdit d'�tablir
dans des pays des centres hostiles � un autre pays. Voyez aujourd'hui, l'ambassadeur am�ricain � Budapest, Montgomery, se
rendre en Yougoslavie pour rendre visite � ses subordonn�s du DOS!
Mais les Etats-Unis et la Grande-Bretagne, qui contr�lent l'ONU, ont ni� ces �vidences. D'autres pays nous comprenaient, mais
nous n'avons m�me pas obtenu un d�bat.

Les Etats-Unis ont d�pens� des sommes consid�rables pour la campagne �lectorale de DOS...
J. Jovanovic. Oui. Et comment r�agiraient-ils si on faisait cela chez eux? Ils me rappellent une blague d'ici: en pleine
p�riode de je�ne religieux, un villageois voit le pr�tre manger un grand r�ti. "Mais vous nous avez dit que le je�ne �tait un
commandement de Dieu!" Et l'autre r�pond: "Vous �tes suppos� ob�ir � ce que je dis, et pas suppos� vous comporter comme moi!"

Bref, "faites ce que je dis, et pas ce que je fais..."
J. Jovanovic. (Riant) Oui, les Etats-Unis, c'est exactement �a! Ce qu'ils se permettent est interdit aux autres. Quand ils
parlent de "d�mocratie", c'est seulement un slogan qu'ils avancent pour dominer le monde. Autre exemple: ils veulent imposer un
Tribunal p�nal international pour nous juger. Mais eux-m�mes refusent un tribunal universel qui pourrait juger tous les crimes
de guerre commis par n'importe quel Etat. Ils savent trop bien qu'ils devraient �tre condamn�s pour ce qu'ils ont fait �
Panama, Ha�ti et ailleurs!
A l'Assembl�e g�n�rale des Nations-Unies, en 1995, ils ont vot� contre une r�solution qui interdisait l'ing�rence dans les
affaires int�rieures, particuli�rement �lectorales, d'un pays. Cette r�solution a �t� vot�e malgr� eux, ils devraient donc
suivre les r�gles de la majorit� d�mocratique! "Deux poids, deux mesures", c'est la cl� de la "d�mocratie" am�ricaine.

La Yougoslavie est-elle vis�e pour elle-m�me ou cela annonce-t-il d'autres offensives des Etats-Unis et de l'Otan?
J. Jovanovic. Ce n'�tait pas seulement le probl�me d'un pays dans une r�gion strat�gique. Ils viennent de mettre le paquet car
si la r�sistance yougoslave avait dur� encore longtemps, elle serait devenue un exemple dangereux. Nous �tions en train
d'acqu�rir un soutien croissant dans le tiers monde.

Le pas suivant, c'est la Russie?
J. Jovanovic. Si tant d'�nergie a �t� concentr�e contre la Yougoslavie, ce n'�tait pas seulement pour assouvir les int�r�ts
imm�diats des Etats-Unis et de l'Otan dans notre pays. Pour comprendre, il faut prendre en consid�ration leurs aspirations
globales. A part certaines r�gions qui sont d'une importance vitale en elles-m�mes, � cause de leurs richesses tr�s
importantes, ce que l'Otan et les Etats-Unis font est toujours fonction de leurs int�r�ts globaux...
Premi�rement, ils veulent tuer la volont� d'ind�pendance et de r�sistance � la domination dans le monde entier. Deuxi�mement,
faire passer le message "Aucun pays ne doit invoquer des principes; il doit seulement respecter la fa�on de voir des
Etats-Unis". Troisi�mement, l'Otan s'est ainsi rapproch� des fronti�res de la Russie et de la Chine. Washington travaille � les
faire �clater en y semant les graines du s�paratisme, en manipulant l'int�grisme islamiste. D'un c�t�, ils trompent les
musulmans en leur faisant croire qu'ils sont leurs amis...

Tout en les massacrant en Irak et en Palestine...
J. Jovanovic. Exactement! Et de l'autre c�t�, ils cherchent � contr�ler les ressources mini�res et �nerg�tiques ainsi que tous
les nouveaux march�s qui s'ouvrent � l'est de notre pays: Caucase, Moyen-Orient... Ayant �tabli leur contr�le sur l'Europe
occidentale, les Etats-Unis souhaitent � pr�sent contr�ler tous les gouvernements d'Eurasie. Voil� le facteur global d�cisif.
En r�sistant dix ans, nous avons donn� du temps aux autres pays. Il y a eu des prises de conscience, mais insuffisantes. Sans
doute (avec une nuance de m�lancolie dans la voix), le fardeau � porter �tait-il trop lourd pour la Yougoslavie. Nous avons
re�u certains soutiens, mais pas assez, notamment de pays sur lesquels nous comptions...

Vous songez � la Russie?
J. Jovanovic. (Il ne r�pond pas, mais fait oui de la t�te). Rien n'est �ternel. Y compris la situation pr�sente en
Yougoslavie. Je suis certain que, tout comme certaines personnes qui ont vot� pour DOS vont le regretter, certains pays
europ�ens regretteront de n'avoir pas soutenu davantage la Yougoslavie et d'avoir compris trop tard.
(Riant � nouveau). Une vieille chanson serbe dit: "L'ours a dans� sur le seuil de la maison de votre oncle. Et maintenant, il
vient chez vous!" Autrement dit: vous n'avez pas boug�, mais vous le regretterez. Tous ont sous-estim� ces �v�nements et n'ont
pas vu le risque qu'ils prenaient en ne r�agissant pas.

Et de votre c�t�, pensez-vous avez avoir commis des erreurs?
J. Jovanovic. Oui. Je ne veux pas fuir nos responsabilit�s. Nous n'avons pas �valu� de fa�on r�aliste la situation interne et
internationale. Nous n'avons pas mesur� tous les facteurs n�gatifs.

Par exemple?
J. Jovanovic. Sur le plan int�rieur, nous n'avons pas estim� de fa�on r�aliste les sentiments de la population. Nous aurions
d� mieux ressentir l'effet des privations qu'ils subissaient apr�s dix ann�es de sanctions. Les gens ont r�sist� � l'agression,
ils ont r�sist� aux sanctions, mais leurs conditions de vie s'�taient vraiment trop d�grad�es. Et avec la guerre en plus!
Deuxi�mement, apr�s l'agression, nous avons mis tout le paquet sur la reconstruction du pays. Ecoles, h�pitaux, routes,
ponts... Cela a demand� beaucoup de capitaux et nous avons pr�lev� une cotisation sur les salaires et les pensions. Cette
reconstruction �tait importante pour l'avenir du pays, mais elle n'a pas directement am�lior� la qualit� de vie. Nous aurions
d� �tre plus r�alistes quant aux investissements et adopter davantage de mesures pour am�liorer les conditions de vie des gens.
Troisi�mement, nous n'avons pas bien r�ussi � contr�ler le commerce. Nous avons laiss� trop d'espace � des gens cupides qui
stockaient des marchandises, comme l'huile et le sucre, afin de faire monter les prix avant de r�approvisionner le march�. Des
gens ont profit� de la situation pour stocker et sp�culer. Ils vendaient parfois au double ou au triple de leur prix d'achat!
Imaginez les fortunes qu'ils ont accumul�es!
Dans ma r�gion, il existe une usine de ciment, Paracim. Une mati�re tr�s importante puisque les gens avaient beaucoup �
reconstruire apr�s les bombardements. Lors d'une r�union �lectorale, une femme s'est approch�e de moi: "Monsieur le ministre,
pourquoi permettez-vous que le sac de ciment co�te 3,5 DM � la sortie de l'usine et 13 DM en ville?" Le directeur de l'usine
�tant justement � c�t� de moi, je me suis tourn� vers lui. "Je ne suis responsable que de la production, a-t-il r�pondu. Je ne
contr�le pas le commerce." J'ai parl� de cette situation � mes coll�gues des d�partements �conomiques. Mais trop tard.

Beaucoup ont reproch� � votre gouvernement et � votre parti le fait que pendant que la grande masse vivait dans d'extr�mes
difficult�s, de grosses fortunes se sont aussi cr��es. Certains vivaient dans le luxe et les privil�ges.
J. Jovanovic. Des gens ont profit� de leur position pour s'enrichir ill�galement et immoralement. Nous en subissons les
cons�quences. Mais ils repr�sentent une minorit�. La grande majorit� de nos socialistes sont des gens honn�tes qui se battent
pour la justice sociale, l'�ducation et la sant� pour tous.

Pourquoi vous n'avez pas lutt� plus �nergiquement contre ce ph�nom�ne? Car ce que vous d�crivez ne date pas des derniers
mois...
J. Jovanovic. Le rapport de forces au sein de mon parti n'�tait pas favorable � cette lutte. Mais maintenant, nous allons
devoir nous d�barrasser de ces profiteurs. Efficacement et sans piti�.

A tous les niveaux?
J. Jovanovic. A tous les niveaux.

Beaucoup pensent que Milosevic aurait mieux fait de reconna�tre tout de suite la victoire de Kostunica.
J. Jovanovic. Je ne sais pas si Kostunica a eu 51%, 50% des voix ou un peu moins, et � pr�sent, je m'en fiche. De toute fa�on,
il est clair qu'il avait 10% d'avance sur Milosevic et qu'il allait gagner. D'autre part, il y a des formes l�gales �
respecter. On devait v�rifier s'il avait bien 50% ou s'il fallait un second tour.

En fait, la victoire de DOS est le r�sultat d'un ensemble de facteurs?
J. Jovanovic. Absolument. Le principal - que je nous reproche et que je me reproche � moi-m�me - �tant d'avoir mal estim� la
situation r�elle. M�me si, dans ma circonscription de Pomoravije, j'ai obtenu de tr�s bons r�sultats, gagnant trois districts
sur six. Peut-�tre m�me quatre apr�s v�rification.

En fait, le SPS maintient son nombre de voix...
J. Jovanovic. Oui, mais ce qui est nouveau, c'est que Washington a r�ussi � rendre cr�dible l'opposition DOS. Face � cette
grande campagne internationale, financ�e � coups de millions de dollars, nous pouvons �tre satisfaits d'avoir r�ussi �
conserver la force du SPS. Dommage que nous n'ayons pas r�ussi � accro�tre notre base. Ce sera notre t�che future.

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>
> Decline of The West
> by George Szamuely
> Antiwar.com
>
> October 13, 2000
>
> Kostunica's Coup Unravels
>
> Last week’s coup d’etat in Yugoslavia is unraveling rapidly. President
> Vojislav Kostunica is emerging as a new type of President. He waves to
> the cameras; he gives interviews to the media; he meets foreign
> dignitaries. Yet he is in charge of nothing. He has no political party
> and no political base. He does not control the Federal Parliament. He
> does not control the Serbian Parliament. He does not control
> Montenegro. He does not control any Ministry. He does not control the
> police. Above all, he does not control Yugoslavia’s armed forces. And,
> as he reveals in an interview with the New York Times (October 12), he
> does not even control his own coalition. Kostunica won 50 percent of
> the vote – if that – in an election with a 60 percent turnout. The
> Yugoslav Presidency is essentially a powerless institution, important
> only because Slobodan Milosevic occupied it. The Yugoslav President,
> for example, is not the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. The
> Supreme Defense Council commands the armed forces. This body comprises
> the President of Yugoslavia, the President of Serbia, the President of
> Montenegro, the Yugoslav Defense Minister and the Yugoslav Army Chief
> of Staff. Since Montenegro President Milo Djukanovic is likely to
> continue boycotting the Supreme Defense Council, Kostunica is
> outnumbered 3 to 1 by Milosevic loyalists.
>
> The United States and the European Union poured hundreds of millions
> of dollars into Yugoslavia over the years trying to oust Slobodan
> Milosevic. They ended up with no popular, national hero in the Lech
> Walesa or Vaclav Havel mould; rather a not terribly bright, pedantic
> protégé, one who can only achieve power by thuggery, media attention,
> and large infusions of foreign cash. As ever, the NATO project is
> failing. Since last week throughout the country drunken mobs have been
> storming the offices of factories, coalmines, banks and universities
> and forcing people to resign. Armed gangs seized the National Bank as
> well as the Customs’ office. The managers of Yugoslavia’s largest gold
> mine and smelter were kicked out, as were the managers at Zastava, the
> country’s giant carmaker. The Director of the Kolubara coalmining
> complex was thrown out, as was the Director of Yugoslav Coal
> Production.
>
> This lawlessness has not escaped the attention of the Yugoslav
> military. Last Sunday Kostunica met the Yugoslav Army General Staff.
> At the meeting, according to the Serbian Ministry of Information,
> "concern was expressed over certain events in the country, in
> post-election period, that are not in accordance with the Constitution
> and the laws, and the position and role of the Yugoslav Army in
> resolving problems had also been considered." Sounds like a clear
> warning to Kostunica not to engage in mob rule. Zoran Djindjic,
> unquestionably the real leader of the Democratic Opposition, evidently
> decided that the time had come to try to use the same bullying tactics
> with the army. Djindjic began telling reporters about the need to
> replace Army Chief of Staff General Nebojsa Pavkovic with Momcilo
> Perisic, a former general sacked by Milosevic in 1998. "We can expect
> not only the resignation of the present chief of general staff Nebojsa
> Pavkovic, but also a wind of fresh air throughout the top ranks,"
> Djindjic said. On Wednesday Kostunica went to army headquarters – a
> highly revealing act leaving no one in any doubt as to who really
> wields power in Yugoslavia. Following the meeting, the army issued an
> ominous statement: "The army leadership drew the President’s attention
> to possible negative consequences which might result from increasingly
> violent attacks on and efforts to discredit individual Army officers
> and the Army as an institution of vital importance to national
> security and defense." Kostunica made it clear that Pavkovic was
> staying on, that he had never had the slightest intention of replacing
> him and that Djindjic does not speak for him. Like Al Gore, Kostunica
> is "his own man."
>
> On Monday, the Democratic Opposition was boasting that it had bullied
> the Serbian President Milan Milutinovic into holding elections for the
> Serbian Parliament in December and into ceding power to a transitional
> Government in the interim. Now, it looks as if there will be no
> elections until September of next year, when Parliament’s term is due
> to end. Members of Milosevic’s Socialist Party and those of Vojislav
> Seselj’s Radical Party walked out of talks earlier this week on
> forming a new government in Serbia. They vowed not to come back until
> the "end of riots, violence and lawlessness against the citizens of
> Serbia." The Radicals complained of people were being "lynched by mobs
> belonging to the illegal regime of the Democratic Opposition."
>
> The response of the Democratic Opposition was to threaten more
> violence. Djindjic issued an ultimatum. Either the Serbian Government
> sets a date for new elections by Friday or the Opposition will call
> its followers out into the streets. One senior Democratic Opposition
> official, Cedomir Jovanovic, warned the Socialists, that they will
> face "non-constitutional" pressure. Jovanovic said that the DOS would
> ask for the help of people in the streets to force the Serbian
> Government into holding early elections and to cede power to a
> "transitional government." The "people’s patience is exhausted," said
> Velimir Ilic, the Mayor of Cacak. "Serbs are so eager to see changes,
> and I do not know who…will protect Socialists if they continue to drag
> their feet."
>
> Meanwhile, the Democratic Opposition is trying to bring the Serbian
> police under its control. Serbia’s Interior Minister resigned this
> week citing a conflict of interest on account of having been elected
> to the Federal Parliament. The media reported this as a major triumph
> for Kostunica. No sooner had they done so, than Serbian Prime Minister
> Mirko Marjanovic announced that he was taking over the Interior
> Ministry himself and thereby assuming control of the police.
>
> Kostunica wants to ignore elected bodies and to set up so-called
> "crisis committees" to run the country. But no one is buying into the
> idea. According to Branislav Ivkovic, a senior figure in Milosevic’s
> Party, the "government [of Serbia] will…ignore all the decisions of
> the so-called ‘crisis committees’." In addition, all managers of state
> companies dismissed by the Democratic Opposition will be reinstated.
> The Serbian Government, he explains, "was elected on a four-year
> mandate, and it is the only one which can make legal decisions."
>
> This week Zoran Djindjic announced that the new Federal Prime Minister
> would be G17 Plus Chief Executive Miroljub Labus. Djindjic has long
> been an advocate of putting Yugoslavia into the receivership of the
> IMF. G17 Plus drew up the Democratic Opposition’s economic program,
> with all its promises to abide by IMF demands. Apparently this was all
> news to Kostunica. He announced that he had promised the job of Prime
> Minister to a member of Montenegro’s Socialist People’s Party, which
> is aligned with Milosevic. The Socialist People’s Party has, however,
> rejected the notion of establishing a "government of experts" in the
> interim. Kostunica intends to travel to Montenegro on Friday to meet
> local party leaders as well as Milo Djukanovic. Note that once again
> it is Kostunica who has to do the traveling and the paying of
> respects, not the politicians of Montenegro.
>
> Kostunica continues on his clueless and sycophantic way. "The United
> States has done too much meddling in our internal affairs," he says in
> the Times interview as if he were still running for office, "Now it’s
> meddling less than usual, so this will have a positive influence."
> "Less than usual"? The United States manipulated an election, and
> engineered his seizure of power. What does he mean by "usual"? On
> improving relations with the United States, the Times says: "If
> re-establishing diplomatic relations is in his competence as Federal
> President, he said, he will do it quickly." An extraordinary
> statement, first, in its revelation about Kostunica’s lack of
> knowledge as to what falls within his competence. Second, in its
> revelation as to the kind of "nationalism" espoused by this supposed
> "Serbian nationalist." He literally pants to win the approval of the
> very power that was bombing his country to smithereens last year.
> Third, if even diplomatic relations do not fall within his competence,
> what does?
>
> What happened in Yugoslavia was the overthrow of a legitimate
> Government by a combination of brute force and US threats and dollars.
> The people who have been hoisted into power are no democrats, but the
> servants of foreign interests. They have no power, and their attempts
> at circumventing democratic institutions are meeting ferocious
> resistance in the country. The media hacks, robbed of their "fall of
> the Berlin Wall" and "people power" story are unable to understand any
> of this. Convinced that the Democratic Opposition leaders are the
> "good guys," and that the United States is self-evidently on the side
> of democracy and freedom, they have only one explanation as to why
> events are not following the approved script: the old standby,
> "Milosevic is causing mischief." But this is an old story now, and an
> increasingly unconvincing one. By stepping down last week and not
> resorting to violence, Milosevic may well have outmaneuvered the
> Americans once again. The fight for Yugoslav sovereignty will
> continue.
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THE CACAK PLOT

Veterans of the Belgrade demonstrations which toppled Milosevic claim
the
protests were planned with military precision

By Milenko Vasovic in Belgrade

The opening blows of the Yugoslav Revolution were highly coordinated
operations backed by a core of armed and committed soldiers, war
veterans
and police officers, claims one of the organisers of the uprising.

The mayor of Cacak, Velimir Ilic, a key figure in the overthrow of
Slobodan
Milosevic, told the Belgrade daily Glas Javnosti that the seizure of the
federal parliament and state broadcaster, RTS, had been "carefully
prepared"
over a long period of time.

"For months we were laying down our plans," he said." Each demonstrator
was
allocated a specific task. We knew which group was in charge for each
part
of the city and what they had to do."

Ilic said utmost secrecy surrounded the preparations. He had recruited
army
personnel, retired and serving special police officers, as well as
veterans
from the Bosnian war. Leaders from the Democratic Opposition of Serbia,
DOS,
the coalition behind Yugoslavia's new president, Vojislav Kostunica,
were
left in the dark about the plans, the mayor said.

"Not even the policemen and special forces who took part in this action
knew
of each others existence until the very end," Ilic said.

"It's either victory or death!" Ilic told around 10,000 people who
gathered
in Cacak, before setting out in a 20-mile long convoy of buses and
vehicles
for the showdown in the capital on October 5.

People from Uzice, Nis, Gornji Milanovac, Smederevo joined the column as
it
approached Belgrade. As they converged on the city centre, their number
was
swollen by hundreds of thousands of local protesters.

The throngs of demonstrators waged a psychological war against the
police
trying to protect key buildings. One young man walked up to an officer
outside the parliament building and opened his jacket to reveal an
automatic
rifle. "I have nothing to lose," he yelled. "You have to decide for
yourself." The policeman was speechless.

Among the thousands of demonstrators who descended on the federal
parliament
and RTS building were groups armed with guns and petrol bombs and gangs
of
youths. Prominent among the latter were Red Star Belgrade football fans
keen
to take revenge for police beatings.

Ilic claims he had at his disposal ten officers from the elite 63rd
Parachute Brigade, several former state security secret agents and about
half a dozen members of elite police units. Team leaders were provided
with
walkie-talkies - some were unfortunately attacked by demonstrators who
mistook them for plainclothes policemen.

The parliament building was finally breached when the protesters
succeeded
in tricking police outside into posing for souvenir photographs,
allowing
another group to slip by the cordon and storm the entrance.

Next to fall to the protesters was the RTS building. Petrol bombs set it
ablaze forcing police inside to surrender. In the final push, a
bulldozer
was driven through the front door.

Vladan Dugonjic, a mechanical engineer from Sabac, was one of the first
to
get inside the RTS studios. Sabac, who took part in the March 1991
clashes
with police, said he had waited ten years to realise his dream - the end
of
communism in Serbia. Despite the clouds of tear gas, he said, he managed
to
get into the building and snatch a microphone away from Spomenka Jovic,
a
pro-regime journalist.

"I fell down many times, I rushed through the flames," he said. "My
sleeve
caught fire, but I was determined to get into RTS, even if that meant
losing
my sight. That building generated so much evil."

Rumours around Belgrade say another veteran of the wars in former
Yugoslavia, Dragan Vasiljevic, alias Captain Dragan, took part in the
capture of the hated state broadcaster.

Vasiljevic led a unit of Serbian volunteers during the Krajina conflict.
People under his command, it is said, captured vital RTS transmitters,
enabling the opposition to begin broadcasting over the network.

Some claim many of the protesters were paid for a 'good day's work'. One
of
Ilic's security men, Ivan Stragarevic, vehemently denies this: "We
joined
with all our heart, we didn't do it for money."

Many of the Cacak protesters had left their hometown as if going to war,
saying final farewells to their families. "We dared not return home
without
completing the job, because the police would have beaten us and put us
into
jail on the way back," said one protester.

Milenko Vasovic is a regular IWPR contributor.

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German Foreign Minister Calls for Permanent German Troop
Occupation of Yugoslavia

Fischer Warns: Yugoslavs Must Acquire Democratic Culture to Relate to
Germany

Prof. Chossudovsky Comments: US Accepts German Domination in Yugoslavia

Berlin (AP)Oct. 11, 2000

[Emperor's Clothes note: The following has been translated from the
printout of a German
language 'Associated Press' dispatch. For more details, see end of
article]

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer, addressing Parliament on
Wednesday, expressed
his opinion that Germany should not only provide material help to
Yugoslavia but that the
Bundeswehr and non-military organizations should establish a permanent
presence there. He
declared that this was a unique chance to create a democracy in the
context of further
European unification.

Reunited Germany has a special responsibility for stabilizing democracy
in Serbia. Democracy,
said Mr. Fischer, is the basis for a lasting peace in the Balkans. But
the priority is for the
moment that the democratic changes be carried out peacefully and that
justice prevail. The
Western Balkans is a part of the European comprehensive responsibility.

It was truly correct at the time to stop Slobodan Milosevich's policy of
Greater Serbia and to
engage oneself on the side of the democratic opposition, says Joschka
Fischer. Now the bloody
murdering in the Balkans can be stopped. The Stability Pact has to be
used, among other things,
for the clearing of the Danube. Also democratic culture has to be built
up [in Serbia] to make
possible the normalization of relations between Germany and Serbia. The
first steps have been
taken through the lifting of the oil and the flight embargoes by the
European Union. Now
Serbia can be accompanied on its route toward Europe. In the words of
Fischer, all those who
have made themselves guilty of grave crimes have to be brought to
justice.

[Note: Original German text will be posted as soon as possible at
http://emperors-clothes.com/german/bundeswehr.htm ]

German Domination Slated for Yugoslavia

Interview with Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University
of
Ottawa. Prof. Chossudovsky studies and writes about the effects of
International Monetary
Fund/NATO penetration of countries in transition.

Interview conducted by Max Sinclair

Sinclair: Some supporters of Kostunica are arguing, or hoping, that
somehow he can maneuver
around the United States because he has ties to Europe. That Europe is
getting away from US
domination and wants to be independent.

Chossudovsky: I think they're very naïve in that belief. Berlin and
Washington are working
hand in hand in this situation. They coordinate their respective foreign
policy initiatives.
Germany's secret service, the Bbundesnachrichten Dienst (BND)
collaborated closely with the
CIA in the various stages of the 78 day bombing of Yugoslavia, and also
after the bombing.

Everything indicates that what they want is to transform Yugoslavia into
a German
protectorate with German troops (and the Deutschmark) stationed on
Yugoslav soil, within
Germany's "lebensraum". This has been the fate of the other former
republics of Yugoslavia
including Macedonia and Croatia.

In Montenegro and Kosovo the Deutschmark has been established as legal
tender. In Kosovo
Germany's Commerzbank controls the entire commercial banking system. At
the same time it
is the Washington Group, which is a US Transnational linked up with the
US defence industry,
which controls the Trepca mines in northern Kosovo.

The Americans and their British allies have their eyes on Central Asia;
that is the deal. The
Caspian Sea basin and Central Asia are American territory. BP-AMOCO and
ARCO, the
world's largest Anglo-American oil consortium, is the major player in
the Caspian oil fields.
NATO's role, through GUUAM, the NATO-sponsored military alliance in this
area, is to
protect the pipeline routes from the Caucasus through the Balkans.

Germany is not an important player in the oil business. In return for
the US and Britain getting
the Caspian Sea Basin and Central Asia, Germany gets the Balkans and
parts of Eastern
Europe. The US and Germany seem to have agreed on this division of
territory and their
respective spheres of influence.

Sinclair: So they are fully united?

Chossudovsky: United in some regards, divided in others. There is a
major split between
Germany and the US in the defence industry. We see two competing defence
conglomerates.
The powerful Deutsche Aerospace which is part of Daimler is now allied
with France's
Aerospatiale Matra. In turn, British Aerospace is integrated into the US
military industrial
complex. It is in close relationship with major US defence contractors.

In other words the Western defence industry is split in two; the
Anglo-American axis and the
Franco-German axis. Incidentally in the oil business the Anglo-Americans
are also
competing with the French-Belgian-Italian consortium,
El-Aquitaine-Petrofina-ENI, which
also has links to the Iranian and Russian Oil companies.

Dinkic Attempts to Control Central Bank for the IMF

Chossudovsky: With regard to Yugoslavia, what they want is to impose the
Deutschmark,
which means Germany would dominate the monetary system. This requires
controlling the
Central Bank.

I think the biggest stake in Yugoslavia right now is over who does
control the Central Bank.

It appears that Mr. Mladjan Dinkic of the G17 group of economists has
assumed control of the
Bank. He has done this on behalf of the International Monetary Fund
(IMF)

If Yugoslavia is to retain national sovereignty, it is absolutely
essential that it regains
sovereignty over its bank and therefore its monetary policy. If
Kostunica and Dinkic and the
G-17 can hand over the Central Bank to the IMF, then the German banks
will come in as they
did in Kosovo and Bosnia . The IMF then acquires de facto control and
then we have a colonial
situation regardless of what might happen in the arena of party
politics. In other words, if the
IMF, through the G-17 economists, has control of the Central Bank in the
person of Mr.
Dinkic, then they control part of the key power in the country. If they
also get the position of
Finance Minister they have it all.

Mr. Dinkic appears to have assumed the functions of a Central Bank
governor without the
legally required parliamentary assent. There is evidence, publicly
available, that the IMF has
already begun wrecking the monetary system. For Yugoslavia to retain
sovereignty, its
monetary policy must be controlled by those answerable to parliament,
not to the IMF. This
means removing the Central Bank from Dinkic and his associates.

With regard to Yugoslavia the US, Germany and France collaborate.

Sinclair: The other day I read an article which suggested that Kostunica
has the backing of
France and so he can therefore play an independent role.

Chossudovsky: France and German go together. As I mentioned, their
defense industries are
fully integrated now. There's very close collaboration between the two.
That is the new axis.
France, Germany and Italy, on one side, and Britain and America on the
other.

Sinclair: So does this mean there is hope that the Serbs will be
protected from the U.S. by
France and Germany?

Chossudovsky: They won't; no no, they won't. Of course, there are many
disagreements and
conflicts between Germany and the US. In Albania, the Germans supported
the Democrats
and the US supported the Socialists. The Germans lost out. Germany's
giant mining
consortium Preussag, lost out to an Anglo-American mining company when
the Socialists
came in. Albania is one of the world's largest producers of chrome, you
see.

But with regard to Yugoslavia the US and German sides fully collaborate.

And mind you, the International Monetary Fund is run by a German now.
Let's be clear: in the
Balkans and Eastern Europe, the IMF is just as much an instrument of
German domination as
it is of American domination.

And then of course there are the historical implications of Germany once
more occupying
Yugoslavia. This of course has been an established goal of the German
Empire, including
during W.W.II.

Sinclair: Before we conclude could you talk a bit more about United
States and Central Asia?

Chossudovsky: Well the United States has extended into the Caucasus and
the Central Asian
Republics of the former Soviet Union; it also has its eyes on China.
Since the Asian crisis and
the IMF bailout in 1997, South Korea is becoming into a full fledged
colony of the US. The
powerful Korean business conglomerates (Hyundai, Samsung, Daewoo, Kia)
are being taken
over by U.S. financial interests. The Germans, including Deutsche Bank
and Commerzbank,
are also present in Korea, picking up the pieces. The US has 38,000
troops in Korea. The
Korean economy is being ransacked.

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The Case of the Reluctant News Report

As far as we know, the 'AP' dispatch posted above was only distributed
in German. A reader
spotted it at Yahoo.com's German language site and emailed us his
English translation of an
excerpt as well as the web address where he'd found it. Following his
instructions we went to
http://de.news.yahoo.com/4/ and did a search for "Fischer will
Jugoslawien mit Bundeswehr
helfen" [Fischer wants Army to help Yugoslavia]. This took us to the web
address
"http://de.news.yahoo.com/001011/12/14aun.html" The url we there had the
right title, but the
link didn't work. The other links on the page worked fine. We contacted
a friend in Germany
who has access to 'AP' . He got a printout of the actual news dispatch
and sent us the text in
German and translated it to English. We will post the original German
soon.

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Further Reading

'U.S. Arrogance and Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm

'The International Monetary Fund And The Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/1.htm

'Yugoslav Coup Unravels' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/szamuely/unravels.htm

Two interviews relate first hand experience with the DOS terror:

* These Dindjic people are brown shirts' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/djindjic.htm
An interview conducted after the Oct. 5 coup

* 'On the list, they had me marked as a nationalist' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/onthelist.htm
Interview conducted before the Oct. 5 coup

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COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY DEVELOPMENTS IN YUGOSLAVIA: STRUGGLE CONTINUES
DESPITE
SETBACK IN BELGRADE

By Sara Flounders and John Catalinotto

11 Oct 2000--Faced with enormous pressure from the United States and its
NATO allies, a demonstration of 200,000 people in Belgrade demanding
that
he step down, and violent attacks by smaller organized paramilitary
units,
Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic resigned Oct. 6.

These events pose two questions of vital importance for the
working-class,
anti-war and progressive movements around the world.

The first is: Which side are you on? Was this a people's victory, as
the
corporate media claim, or a setback for the working class in Yugoslavia
and
worldwide?

The second question determines the outcome of this ongoing struggle:
Which
class will control the state--that is, the army, the police, the laws
and
the courts? Will the international capitalist class that controls the
World
Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the big investment banks and
the
multinational corporations also control all the levers of economic and
political life in Yugoslavia?

The mass demonstration gave the developments the appearance of a
revolutionary uprising. But it was a false appearance, for the event
was a
NATO-backed counter-revolutionary coup that is still incomplete and can
be
resisted.

NATO LEADERS CHEER KOSTUNICA

The most obvious indication of the character of what happened came from
the
leaders of the NATO countries that carried out the brutal 11-week
bombing
campaign against Yugoslavia last year. The wild cheering by U.S.
President
Bill Clinton, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, British Prime
Minister
Tony Blair, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and his Green Party
Foreign
Minister Joshka Fischer should clarify the significance of last week's
events for anyone who thought that the vote for Vojislav Kostunica or
the
upheaval in Belgrade was a victory for democracy.

Drunk with their apparent success and anxious to take credit for it,
politicians from Washington to Berlin are now bragging about their
organized efforts to overturn the Milosevic government.

HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES:

"Oct. 7, 2000 (Reuters)--Germany said on Saturday it had supported the
Yugoslav opposition with millions of marks in financial aid.

"Norway also said it had helped fund the Yugoslav opposition's election
campaign, which led to victory by opposition candidate Vojislav
Kostunica
and soon afterwards to the overthrow of strongman President Slobodan
Milosevic.

"[The German weekly] Der Spiegel said around $30 million, mostly from
the
United States, was channeled through an office in Budapest.

"Another 45 million marks ($20 million) from Germany and other Western
states went to cities that were under opposition control. Der Spiegel
said
the Foreign Ministry sent around 17 million marks through 16 German
towns,
which also contributed."

"Oct. 9, 2000 (Agence France Presse)--The chairman of the U.S. Joint
Chiefs
of Staff, General Henry Shelton, praised Bulgaria on Monday for helping
bring about the downfall of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic."

Their tactics included pumping tens of millions of dollars into
opposition
parties in a starving economy distorted by eight years of sanctions.
Behind
this were open military threats to use NATO bombs and troops stationed
in
surrounding countries if Milosevic won, and well-advertised promises to
end
the sanctions and begin an era of peace and prosperity if Kostunica was
elected.

Kostunica is a minor anti-communist politician and professor of
constitutional law backed by 18 small and completely divergent parties
that
Washington cobbled together into the "Democratic Opposition of Serbia"
with
funds and arm- twisting. Kostunica ran on the economic program of the
Group
of 17, drafted by economists in Yugoslavia who work for the IMF and
World
Bank. Their "solutions" for Yugoslavia involve ending free medical care
and
all subsidies for rent, food and transportation.

They would transform the whole economy, with most industries rapidly
privatized and the profitable ones sold cheaply to foreign investors.
Even
in far more prosperous economies, this shock treatment has resulted in
massive layoffs.

One can look at how the living standards for the workers of
Yugoslavia's
neighbors, Romania and Bulgaria, plummeted after they opened their
economies to the imperialist banks and followed IMF rules.

But that seems to be exactly what Kostunica's forces have in mind.
Reuters
reported Oct. 10 that DOS economist Miroljub Labus said the IMF would
allow
Yugoslavia into the fold by Dec. 14 if the opposition forms its
government
soon.

ROLE OF THE SOCIALIST PARTY

Despite many concessions and compromises, Milosevic's Socialist Party
of
Serbia has struggled to maintain the independence of Yugoslavia. This
earned it the animosity of imperialist reaction worldwide. For 10 years
the
U.S. and European Union imperialists made every possible effort to
dismember the Yugoslav Socialist Federation and wipe out even the
memory of
this multinational state--while the SPS and its partner, the Yugoslav
United Left, resisted.

The corporate media demonized Milosevic, calling him a dictator. But he
and
his party were elected to their leadership role in Yugoslavia, won
respect
for leading the heroic Yugoslav people during the 11 weeks of fighting
NATO
aggression, and defended the Yugoslav economy from imperialist
penetration.

It's true that the SPS lost the active support of the working class,
its
original base. The party has so far been unable to mobilize street
demonstrations to defend itself while under attack. Still, Milosevic
won 2
million votes and the SPS still legally leads important parliamentary
bodies, including the Federal Yugoslav and Serb parliaments.

But it would be foolish to believe that Washington and its clients in
Yugoslavia will limit their tactics to parliamentary legality.

BATTLE FOR STATE POWER

In a period of peaceful competition and discussion, the 18 DOS parties
backing Kostunica would rapidly split apart. Kostunica is a monarchist
and
Serb nationalist, while other parties in the coalition are
anti-monarchist
and fight for independence for the provinces of Vojvodina and Sandja
from
Serbia.

In addition, any long period of peaceful political competition would
prove
Kostunica's economic program a bigger disaster for the Yugoslav workers
than the sanctions. And the inevitable evaporation of Yugoslav and Serb
sovereignty would outrage many of his current supporters.

That's why Washington and its agents are switching rapidly to
extralegal
methods to take over the whole state apparatus. They have targeted
essential government ministries, especially state security, police and
banking, and the entire media apparatus, while violently attacking the
SPS
and other left parties.

In the elections the Socialist Party and the United Left won control of
both houses of the Federal Parliament. Under the Yugoslav Constitution,
Parliament is legally more important than the presidency, a figurehead
position. Even more influential is the left-led Serb Parliament, which
the
DOS government has now maneuvered into calling new elections for
December.

The imperialist strategists are pushing to move quickly to command the
whole state, which also means purging the leadership of the police and
destroying the Yugoslav Army, which is rooted in the 1945 socialist
revolution and the anti-Nazi Partisan struggle.

Without an armed apparatus to defend themselves, the people and
especially
the workers of Yugoslavia will be at the mercy of the imperialist
bankers
and industrialists, who have NATO forces in Kosovo and surrounding
countries and their own agents in Belgrade.

IMPERIALISM'S EXTRALEGAL GANGS

The anti-Milosevic gangs have also attacked left parties and government
centers. Velimir Ilic, the mayor of Cacac and a deserter who refused to
cooperate with the Yugoslav Army during last year's resistance to NATO,
boa
sted to the New York Times that he organized anti-Milosevic commandos.

Ilic said: "We established a team of young professionals, paratroopers
from
the Yugoslav Army and young policemen, and we coordinated this with the
most elite units of the Interior Ministry Police in Belgrade. We got
martial arts experts and professional boxers to join us. We even had
plainclothes police coordinating with nearby towns."

Ilic told Agence France-Presse he had 2,000 people and that some were
armed. "A number of us had bulletproof vests and arms," he said. "Our
goal
was very clear, take control of the key institutions of the regime,
including parliament and the television." He didn't say if they were
paid,
and if so, where he got the money. But he claimed his forces, dressed
in
police uniforms, opened Parliament and sowed confusion in the police
ranks.
Inside, he introduced his gang to Zoran Djindjic, Kostunica's campaign
manager.

According to Michel Collon, correspondent of the Belgian weekly
Solidaire
reporting from Belgrade, Djindjic coordinated the attacks on Parliament
and
Serbian television. Djindjic used threats and pressure against
journalists
to take over the major public television, radio and print media,
including
the daily newspaper Politika.

Djindjic's gangsters also vandalized and wrecked the Belgrade
headquarters
of the SPS and the smaller New Communist Party of Yugoslavia shortly
after
the seizure of Parliament. In addition, homes of SPS activists have
been
burned in and near Belgrade, and there have been even more serious
incidents in the provinces.

THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES

On Oct. 10, the DOS leadership made an agreement with the Socialist
People's Party of Montenegro to make that party's leader, Pedrag
Bulatovic,
the new premier in the Federal Parliament of Yugoslavia. Bulatovic said
his
party, which had been aligned with Milosevic's SPS, wanted to form a
government with the DOS which "balances political forces in the federal
parliament."

Another dozen paragraphs would be needed to explain all the possible
parliamentary maneuvering. But this is really secondary. Washington and
its
agents will use every kind of pressure on individuals, political
parties
and the population as a whole to keep peaceful democratic competition
from
reversing its counter-revolution.

Collon and other reporters in Belgrade have noted that the population
was
disgusted by the burning of Parliament and the other violence. "Even
the
Kostunica supporters say they voted for a better life, not for
revenge."
But if the police and army withdraw from keeping order, only the active
organization of the left can defend its positions.

Yugoslavia's defense minister, Gen. Dragoljub Ojdanic, urged the SPS to
rally. In an open letter, Ojdanic warned the Serbs might otherwise face
extinction as a people. He said that "disunity among the Serbs is
inciting
the plans of our proven enemies" to occupy the country, referring to
NATO's
ties to the DOS.

Here in the United States it's important first that the left understand
that what happened Oct. 5-6 was a setback for the workers and for
Yugoslavia's sovereignty. What is called for is active solidarity with
those in Yugoslavia who continue to resist these counter-revolu tionary
developments, whether they be in the SPS, the other left parties, the
unions, or the army and the police.

Imperialism has ripped and clawed its way into a position of
considerable
power in Yugoslavia today. But the struggle continues.

The writers were organizers of this year's June 10 International War
Crimes
Tribunal in New York that exposed U.S./NATO crimes during the 78-day
bombing of Yugoslavia.



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PRESIDENT KOSTUNICA FAVORS NAME SERBIAMONTENEGRO INSTEAD OF
YUGOSLAVIA
PARIS, Oct 14 (Tanjug). Yugoslav President Vojislav Kostunica
said
in an interview to FigaroMagazine that he would like to have the name
Yugoslavia replaced by SerbiaMontenegro.
"Back in 1992, when (former president Slobodan) Milosevic used
the
name Yugoslavia, I thought that name had become meaningless since the
Croats and Slovenes had left the community of South Slavs. If the
Serbian
and Montenegrin peoples want, we shall annul the name Yugoslavia",
Kostunica told the magazine's Saturday issue.
Kostunica himself favors the name SerbiaMontenegro. "It is a
rather long name, but it is shorter than the United Kingdom of Great
Britain and Northern Ireland", he noted.
President Kostunica advocates amending the national
Constitution.
"All aspects of this should be examined keeping in mind the difficulties
in
organizing a community of two members of very different sizes. Perhaps
the
term confederation would be more appropriate", Kostunica said.
"The values of traditional relations between France and Serbia
have been reborn", Kostunica said, adding that "providence itself has
placed France at the head of the European Union precisely at this
decisive
moment for us and Europe".

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GROUP17PLUS CAN ENTER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONLY AS TEAM
BELGRADE, Oct 14 (Tanjug). The Group17plus can enter the future
federal government only as a team and this stance is not open to
negotiations, one of the leaders of this nongovernmental organization of
experts Miroljub Labus said.
Group17plus management board director and "acting" federal
prime
minister told Belgrade daily Blic that his thinktank would not bargain
on
this issue and that it would be no tragedy not to be a part of state
institutions.
"If we get an opportunity to form a government and take part in
reforms we shall do so as a team. If not, we shall continue to work
as a nongovernmental organization", Labus said.
According to Labus, the goal of the Group17plus is not to get
premiership or ministerial posts, but to open the country and create
normal
economic conditions as soon as possible to help people have a better
standard of living.
Labus described as rather successful the results the group has
achieved so far, adding that its present activities are geared for
maintaining a stable economic system. He underlined, however, that the
formation of a new government is a top priority, regardless of the
identity
of the future prime minister.

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DS OFFICIAL SAYS YUGOSLAVIA, SERBIA NEED GOVERNMENTS OF EXPERTS
BELGRADE, Oct 13 (Tanjug) The Democratic Opposition of Serbia
(DOS) will not give up efforts to form governments of experts in Serbia
and
Yugoslavia capable of dealing with the accumulated problems, according
to a
DOS official on Friday.
"Yugoslavia must get a new government soon, if it is to be
included in international institutions, such as the International
Monetary
Fund (IMF) and the Balkan Stability Pact", Boris Tadic, vicepresident of
the Democratic Party (DS), which is a member of DOS, told a news
conference.
Tadic explained that, in this way, the state would regulate its
foreign indebtedness and obtain new credits necessary for
reconstruction.
"Foreign investors are showing great interest in the Yugoslav
economy. If we delay and procrastinate, they will turn away," he warned.
He added that those who are obstructing the formation of new
governments are blocking the start of economic reforms and of settling
numerous problems.
He went on to say that the deadline set by DOS to the Socialist
Party of Serbia (SPS) to resume talks on forming governments expires on
Friday, and warned that DOS would again organise protests "not to
destroy,
but to show that we have started building a civic society".
Speaking about cadre changes in the SPS, he said conservatives
and
hardliners had carried the day, as evident from Serbian Premier Mirko
Marjanovic's asking that the SPS, the leading party in this Yugoslav
republic's ruling coalition, keep its grip on the interior ministry.
He said that police officials with whom he had discussed
Marjanovic's request had dismissed it as "tragicomic", the Serbian
premier
having lost all political credibility.

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YUGOSLAV PRESIDENT KOSTUNICA MEETS FRENCH PRESIDENT CHIRAC
BIARRITZ, Oct 14 (Tanjug). Yugoslav President Vojislav
Kostunica
conferred with French President Jacques Chirac Saturday in Biarritz, on
the
sidelines of the European Union summit.
On his arrival in Biarritz, Kostunica was welcomed by French
Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine, who currently chairs the EU.
The informal EU summit has ended with the postponement of a
debate
on key institutional reforms of the EU and amidst uncertain prospects
for
the Middle East peace process.
The arrival of President Kostunica to a working lunch with the
European heads of state or government is considered by the French media
to
be an outstanding event in the otherwise gloomy political atmosphere of
a
conference without any great ambitions or results.
The presence of the Yugoslav president in Biarritz at the
invitation of President Chirac constitutes the first true recognition by
the EU after the lifting of the antiYugoslav sanctions, the French media
said.
On Friday, the first day of the summit, the participants
released
a sum of 200 million euros as emergency aid to Yugoslavia.

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YUGOSLAVIA -US

O'BRIEN: ENTIRE REGION CAN NOW MOVE FORWARD
PODGORICA, Oct 14 (Tanjug). The special advisor of the US
president for the Balkans James O'Brien said at the end of his brief
visit
to Montenegro that the recent changes in Serbia had removed the
principal
sources of problems and that the entire region can now move forward
towards
building democracy, economic prosperity and integration with Europe.
Following a visit to Belgrade and talks with Yugoslav President
Vojislav Kostunica, O'Brien visited Montenegro's capital Podgorica late
Friday and conferred with President Milo Djukanovic on the current
developments after the change of power in Belgrade.
Djukanovic and O'Brien pointed to the importance of that change
for the transition process and democratization in Serbia, underlining
that
all this would have positive effects also on the reforms underway in
Montenegro and on the stability of the entire region.
It is now essential that the democratic authorities in
Montenegro
and the international community also contribute to the consolidation of
the
new authorities in Belgrade and to channelling the positive democratic
energy to the state institutions in Serbia, they said.
O'Brien said that the talks also focused on the prospects for
negotiating the future status of Montenegro and the future relations
between Serbia and Montenegro.
That process will take time and it will be carried out
simultaneously with the consolidation of democracy in Serbia. It is
essential that democratic Serbia play a role in that process too, he
said.
Asked by the press about a possible referendum on Montenegro's
independence, O'Brien said that Presidents Kostunica and Djukanovic had
both expressed readiness for talks and that both sides have shown
readiness
and will for examining all options for the future of the federation.
The US does not favour independence for Montenegro, as
possibilities exist for talks with the democratic forces in Belgrade,
which
are ready for an open and sincere dialogue. It will take time to iron
out
all differences, but democracy now exists on both sides, paving the way
for
resolving all problems in a democratic spirit, O'Brien said.

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BULGARIA TODAY – YUGOSLAVIA TOMORROW!

“…and you will pick the fruit of grapevine and of olive tree you have
not
planted…”
The Old Testament

Today “SEGA”* screams from its first page: “EVERY SECOND BULGARIAN
MOTHER
BANISHES HER CHILD ABROAD”.
At one of his regular star-performances on the Bulgarian TV only some
days
ago, the USA deputy in Bulgaria, Governor Richard Miles, consoled
fatherly
the Bulgarians advising them not to cry about the young emigrants. “They

will come back, enriched with the experience, accumulated in the USA
when
life in Bulgaria gets better.”
Who drives the children of Bulgaria away?
The one who turned our life in hell the last ten years!
The young emigrants were the hope of our country, they are its
intellectual
treasure, created by their parents efforts and the efforts of the whole
society! That unique human potential has been built in the course of the

years through the Bulgarian social, health and educational systems –
deliberately and thouroughly annihilated today!
And now that same insatiate cannibal, who has plundered our country and
life, is most cynically consuming the children of Bulgaria without
having
invested even half a cent or a minimal effort to give them birth, to
raise
or educate them!
And later he will use them as janissaries for the full extermination of
their birth cradle – Bulgaria!
The cynicism of Governor Miles can be measured only with that of a rich
slave-owner from the South states – The United States now are acquiring
a
quality offspring raised in a foreign farm!
Why should Governor Miles “improve” life in the USA protectorate
Bulgaria?
And for whom, in fact, the USA Special Forces, IMF and WB, are
conducting
here their deadly “reforms” ruining both our people and Homeland?
After some years there will not be any young people here – there will
not be
children! And the old ones will be dead…
Don’t deceive yourselves: the rape of our Homeland is carried out only
and
solely in the interest of the Metropolis Beyond the Ocean and the
colonial
servants here, called a “political elite” – nobody knows why!

Madlen Kircheva, Blagovesta Doncheva
October 9, 2000 - Sofia, Bulgaria

(We have sent it to ALL Bulgarian media.
It was not published.
Surely the Slave-merchant Miles has said: "No! No! No!")