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* CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE DI FRONTE ALLE NUOVE GUERRE
* INIZIATIVE IN GRAN BRETAGNA
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Comunicato Stampa
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE DI FRONTE ALLE NUOVE GUERRE
22-23 giugno 2000
Politecnico di Torino, corso Duca degli Abruzzi 24
Convegno organizzato dal Comitato Scienziate e Scienziati contro la
guerra
Nell'aprile del 1999 un gruppo di ricercatrici e ricercatori di alcune
Università ed Enti Nazionali di Ricerca Italiani lanciavano un appello
nel quale da un lato si esprimeva la propria critica al coinvolgimento
del nostro paese nella guerra contro la Federazione Jugoslava e all'uso
della guerra quale strumento al servizio di interventi che si
pretendevano 'umanitari' e dall'altro lato si proponeva alla comunità
scientifica di operare per la ricerca del dialogo, della tolleranza e
dell'accettazione del diverso da sé. Da allora il Comitato 'Scienziate e
scienziati contro la guerra' ha operato nella convinzione che è
necessario 'portare nel quotidiano del nostro lavoro le nostre azioni
contro la guerra e per la costruzione della pace' e 'capire come le
scienze, ed in particolare le donne e gli uomini che svolgono
un'attività scientifica, con i loro saperi e il loro metodo di ricerca e
di lavoro possono avere un ruolo nel processo di costruzione della
pace'.
Così venne infatti scritto nella prefazione al volume Imbrogli di
guerra, a cura di Franco Marenco, edito da Odradek, 1999, in cui sono
raccolti gli atti del primo convegno organizzato dal Comitato (Roma, 21
giugno 1999). A distanza di un anno viene ora promossa questa seconda
iniziativa: da un lato si tratta di riprendere ed aggiornare alcune
delle analisi presentate allora circa i rischi per la salute umana e per
l'ambiente dovuti all'uso di uranio impoverito e all'inquinamento
chimico causato dai bombardamenti e circa le connessioni fra la guerra
nei Balcani e gli scenari delle crisi ambientali globali. Dall'altro si
vuole contribuire al dibattito sulle implicazioni di pace e di guerra
insite nei modi di produrre informazione, di costruire rappresentazioni
storiche, di definire norme e valori.
Scopo del prossimo convegno è favorire uno scambio tra esperte
ed esperti di discipline diverse intorno ai temi della guerra, nella
consapevolezza che, nonostante taluni scienziati abbiano spesso
collaborato in modo determinante alla realizzazione di strumenti di
distruzione e di morte, l'impegno di chi opera nei campi della ricerca,
dell'educazione e dell'informazione può contribuire a prevenire
l'insorgere di nuove guerre. Nello stesso tempo l'iniziativa vuole
essere una occasione di incontro tra scienziate/i e società, con
l'auspicio che l'interazione di diverse componenti dia origine a una
cooperazione fattiva e concreta per il perseguimento di obiettivi comuni
e sarà perciò dato ampio spazio ad un dibattito aperto al contributo di
tutte e tutti.
Ulteriori informazioni sul convegno possono essere richieste a
Margherita Roggero all'indirizzo:
roggero@....
Si rimanda inoltre alla home page di Scienzaepace, al sito:
http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni/index.html
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE di fronte alle nuove guerre
Politecnico di Torino, Sala del Consiglio di Facoltà, 22-23 giugno 2000
Giovedì 22 giugno
9.00 - Presentazione del convegno a nome del comitato Scienziate e
Scienziati contro la guerra (Elisabetta Donini e Massimo Zucchetti)
Saluti da parte dei Rettori del Politecnico e dell' Università di Torino
9.30 - I sessione : INFORMAZIONE E DISINFORMAZIONE: CULTURA, SCIENZA E
GUERRE (coordinano Giulia Barone e Chiara
Cavallaro)
Angelo D'Orsi: "Uso strumentale della storia"
Giovanni Salio: "Ricerca scientifica e ricerca per la pace nella
prospettiva della trasformazione nonviolenta dei conflitti"
10.30 - Dibattito
11.00 - Pausa
11.30 - G.Barone, G.Carpi, F.Marenco, A.Martocchia "Disinformazione e
guerra. Problemi della ricostruzione storica della guerra dei Balcani,
1991-2000"
Antonino Drago: "Modelli logici, matematici e fisici dei conflitti e
delle loro soluzioni"
Angelo Raffaele Meo: "I miti della ricerca militare"
Enrico Peyretti : "Giornalismo di pace"
Adriana Valente : " Documentazione, comunicazione scientifica e
tecnologie dell'informazione tra guerra e pace"
12.30 - Dibattito
13.00 - Pausa
14.30 - II sessione : CONSEGUENZE ECOLOGICHE E SANITARIE DELLE GUERRE
(Coordinano Alberto Tarozzi e Massimo
Zucchetti)
Paolo Bartolomei, Carlo Pona: "Problematiche relative all'uso
dell'uranio impoverito in ambito militare"
Ivan Grzetic: "Effetti ambientali della guerra in Jugoslavia"
Mica Saric : "Conseguenze igienico-sanitarie dei bombardamenti NATO sul
complesso industriale di Pancevo"
16.00 - Dibattito
16.30 - Pausa
17.00 - C. Bracci, A. Di Napoli, N. Eminovic, L. Khosrawi, M Ferraro,
A.Taviani, E. Zerbino : "Un 'nuovo modello' militare: produrre vittime"
Mauro Cristaldi : "Reti di biomonitoraggio per valutazioni preventive di
rischio territoriale"
Cristina Giannardi, Daniele Dominici : "Munizioni con uranio impoverito:
una stima per la guerra del Kosovo"
Natasha Lazovic : "Il problema dell'inquinamento chimico nelle falde
sotterranee della Vojvodina"
18.00 - Dibattito
18.30 - Rinfresco
20.00 - Riunione del comitato
Venerdì 23 giugno
9.00 - III sessione: QUESTIONI STRATEGICO-MILITARI (Coordinano Luigi
Cortesi e Angelo Raffaele Meo)
Angelo Baracca, Francesco Polcaro : "La nuova corsa al riarmo e i rischi
crescenti di uso effettivo di armi di distruzione di massa"
Alberto Di Fazio : "Questioni strategico-militari, negoziati UN, e
problema energetico"
10.00 - Dibattito
10.30 - Pausa
11.00 - Guido Carpi: "Il Kosovo nella politica estera italiana del
Novecento"
Gastone Dall'Asen : " La guerra 'umanitaria contro la Repubblica
Federale Jugoslava nella giurisprudenza penale nazionale"
Luciano Vasapollo : "Nuovi scenari geoeconomici dello sviluppo
internazionale: il controllo dell'area balcanica"
Pasquale Vilardo: "Stato delle denunce del tribunale Ramsey Clark"
12.00 - Dibattito
12.30 - Pausa
14.30 - Tavola rotonda: SCIENZE E TECNOLOGIE: SAPERI E RESPONSABILITA'
DI GUERRA E DI PACE (Coordina Claudio
Cancelli)
18.00 - Fine del convegno
Home page del Convegno : http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni
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Committee for Peace in the Balkans Update No 8 Jne 2000
CONTENTS : Latest on 10th June Conference
10th JUNE CONFERENCE
Committee for Peace in the Balkans International Conference
NATO, Yugoslavia and the new world order-
one year after NATO bombing
Saturday 10 June
10.30am to 5.30pm
Conway Hall, Red Lion Sq, London WC2
speakers include:
Alice Mahon MP Tony Benn MP Tam Dalyell MP Harold Pinter
Eve-Ann
Prentice Diana Johnstone
with international guests from Greece Italy Germany France
Sweden and elsewhere
topics include:
Building Bridges Eye-witness reports Speak out against NATO war
crimes
Sanctions -- economic warfare against Yugoslavia NATO and the new arms
race Kosovo today The human cost of NATO intervention The media -
NATO
's willing accomplice? International consequences of NATO's war on
Yugoslavia The anti-war movement - experiences on the ground
Registration - in advance or on the door
Organisations, per delegate £10 ??Waged individuals £6 ? Unwaged £3 ?
We / I wish to register and enclose £_____
We / I enclose a donation of £_______
Please send more information about CfPiB ?
Name
Address
Phone/email
Make cheques payable to 'Committee for Peace in the Balkans' and return
to
the address below
Contact the Committee for Peace in the Balkans
c/o Alice Mahon MP, House of Commons, SW1A 0AA
Telephone 020 7275 0164
Email committee@...
Website www.peaceinbalkans.freeserve.co.uk
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LONDON WEDNESDAY JUNE 28, 2000
HOUSE OF LORDS - COMMITTEE ROOM 4
12:00 HOURS - PRESS CONFERENCE AND PUBLIC MEETING
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CAMPAIGN FOR JUSTICE FOR THE PEOPLE OF YUGOSLAVIA
------------------------------------------------
DEMANDING:
1) Indictment as war criminals of all those responsible - including all
the
NATO leaders and commanding officers - for the decisions and actions
surrounding the launching and waging of aggressive war against the
people
of Yugoslavia in March 1999.
2) Reparations for all damages to the lives and property of the victims
of
aggression to be paid in full by the aggressors.
PLEASE DIARISE:
LONDON WEDNESDAY JUNE 28, 2000
HOUSE OF LORDS - COMMITTEE ROOM 4
12:00 HOURS - PRESS CONFERENCE AND PUBLIC MEETING
"To initiate a war of aggression.... is the supreme international crime,
differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself
the
accumulated evil of the whole". - From the Declaration in the Judgement
of
the International War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremberg, 1945.
"Launching a war of aggression is a crime that no political or economic
situation can justify". ".. if certain acts in violation of treaties
are
crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or Germany
does
them..... we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct
against
others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us". -
Supreme
Court Justice Robert Jackson - Chief American Prosecutor at Nuremberg,
1945.
"..... the second purpose of the trial was to lay down the rules of
international law for the future, not only making the waging of
aggressive
war unlawful, but for the first time, making the statesmen who led their
countries into an aggressive war personally responsible for what they'd
done." - Lord Shawcross, - Senior British Prosecutor at Nuremberg War
Crimes Trial, 1945.
Sponsored by:
Justice International - Christians Against Nato Aggression - Planning
For
Peace
Speakers from the sponsoring and other international organisations
supporting to be announced soon.
London, May 25, 2000
The Justice International Secretariat
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* INIZIATIVE IN GRAN BRETAGNA
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Comunicato Stampa
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE DI FRONTE ALLE NUOVE GUERRE
22-23 giugno 2000
Politecnico di Torino, corso Duca degli Abruzzi 24
Convegno organizzato dal Comitato Scienziate e Scienziati contro la
guerra
Nell'aprile del 1999 un gruppo di ricercatrici e ricercatori di alcune
Università ed Enti Nazionali di Ricerca Italiani lanciavano un appello
nel quale da un lato si esprimeva la propria critica al coinvolgimento
del nostro paese nella guerra contro la Federazione Jugoslava e all'uso
della guerra quale strumento al servizio di interventi che si
pretendevano 'umanitari' e dall'altro lato si proponeva alla comunità
scientifica di operare per la ricerca del dialogo, della tolleranza e
dell'accettazione del diverso da sé. Da allora il Comitato 'Scienziate e
scienziati contro la guerra' ha operato nella convinzione che è
necessario 'portare nel quotidiano del nostro lavoro le nostre azioni
contro la guerra e per la costruzione della pace' e 'capire come le
scienze, ed in particolare le donne e gli uomini che svolgono
un'attività scientifica, con i loro saperi e il loro metodo di ricerca e
di lavoro possono avere un ruolo nel processo di costruzione della
pace'.
Così venne infatti scritto nella prefazione al volume Imbrogli di
guerra, a cura di Franco Marenco, edito da Odradek, 1999, in cui sono
raccolti gli atti del primo convegno organizzato dal Comitato (Roma, 21
giugno 1999). A distanza di un anno viene ora promossa questa seconda
iniziativa: da un lato si tratta di riprendere ed aggiornare alcune
delle analisi presentate allora circa i rischi per la salute umana e per
l'ambiente dovuti all'uso di uranio impoverito e all'inquinamento
chimico causato dai bombardamenti e circa le connessioni fra la guerra
nei Balcani e gli scenari delle crisi ambientali globali. Dall'altro si
vuole contribuire al dibattito sulle implicazioni di pace e di guerra
insite nei modi di produrre informazione, di costruire rappresentazioni
storiche, di definire norme e valori.
Scopo del prossimo convegno è favorire uno scambio tra esperte
ed esperti di discipline diverse intorno ai temi della guerra, nella
consapevolezza che, nonostante taluni scienziati abbiano spesso
collaborato in modo determinante alla realizzazione di strumenti di
distruzione e di morte, l'impegno di chi opera nei campi della ricerca,
dell'educazione e dell'informazione può contribuire a prevenire
l'insorgere di nuove guerre. Nello stesso tempo l'iniziativa vuole
essere una occasione di incontro tra scienziate/i e società, con
l'auspicio che l'interazione di diverse componenti dia origine a una
cooperazione fattiva e concreta per il perseguimento di obiettivi comuni
e sarà perciò dato ampio spazio ad un dibattito aperto al contributo di
tutte e tutti.
Ulteriori informazioni sul convegno possono essere richieste a
Margherita Roggero all'indirizzo:
roggero@....
Si rimanda inoltre alla home page di Scienzaepace, al sito:
http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni/index.html
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE di fronte alle nuove guerre
Politecnico di Torino, Sala del Consiglio di Facoltà, 22-23 giugno 2000
Giovedì 22 giugno
9.00 - Presentazione del convegno a nome del comitato Scienziate e
Scienziati contro la guerra (Elisabetta Donini e Massimo Zucchetti)
Saluti da parte dei Rettori del Politecnico e dell' Università di Torino
9.30 - I sessione : INFORMAZIONE E DISINFORMAZIONE: CULTURA, SCIENZA E
GUERRE (coordinano Giulia Barone e Chiara
Cavallaro)
Angelo D'Orsi: "Uso strumentale della storia"
Giovanni Salio: "Ricerca scientifica e ricerca per la pace nella
prospettiva della trasformazione nonviolenta dei conflitti"
10.30 - Dibattito
11.00 - Pausa
11.30 - G.Barone, G.Carpi, F.Marenco, A.Martocchia "Disinformazione e
guerra. Problemi della ricostruzione storica della guerra dei Balcani,
1991-2000"
Antonino Drago: "Modelli logici, matematici e fisici dei conflitti e
delle loro soluzioni"
Angelo Raffaele Meo: "I miti della ricerca militare"
Enrico Peyretti : "Giornalismo di pace"
Adriana Valente : " Documentazione, comunicazione scientifica e
tecnologie dell'informazione tra guerra e pace"
12.30 - Dibattito
13.00 - Pausa
14.30 - II sessione : CONSEGUENZE ECOLOGICHE E SANITARIE DELLE GUERRE
(Coordinano Alberto Tarozzi e Massimo
Zucchetti)
Paolo Bartolomei, Carlo Pona: "Problematiche relative all'uso
dell'uranio impoverito in ambito militare"
Ivan Grzetic: "Effetti ambientali della guerra in Jugoslavia"
Mica Saric : "Conseguenze igienico-sanitarie dei bombardamenti NATO sul
complesso industriale di Pancevo"
16.00 - Dibattito
16.30 - Pausa
17.00 - C. Bracci, A. Di Napoli, N. Eminovic, L. Khosrawi, M Ferraro,
A.Taviani, E. Zerbino : "Un 'nuovo modello' militare: produrre vittime"
Mauro Cristaldi : "Reti di biomonitoraggio per valutazioni preventive di
rischio territoriale"
Cristina Giannardi, Daniele Dominici : "Munizioni con uranio impoverito:
una stima per la guerra del Kosovo"
Natasha Lazovic : "Il problema dell'inquinamento chimico nelle falde
sotterranee della Vojvodina"
18.00 - Dibattito
18.30 - Rinfresco
20.00 - Riunione del comitato
Venerdì 23 giugno
9.00 - III sessione: QUESTIONI STRATEGICO-MILITARI (Coordinano Luigi
Cortesi e Angelo Raffaele Meo)
Angelo Baracca, Francesco Polcaro : "La nuova corsa al riarmo e i rischi
crescenti di uso effettivo di armi di distruzione di massa"
Alberto Di Fazio : "Questioni strategico-militari, negoziati UN, e
problema energetico"
10.00 - Dibattito
10.30 - Pausa
11.00 - Guido Carpi: "Il Kosovo nella politica estera italiana del
Novecento"
Gastone Dall'Asen : " La guerra 'umanitaria contro la Repubblica
Federale Jugoslava nella giurisprudenza penale nazionale"
Luciano Vasapollo : "Nuovi scenari geoeconomici dello sviluppo
internazionale: il controllo dell'area balcanica"
Pasquale Vilardo: "Stato delle denunce del tribunale Ramsey Clark"
12.00 - Dibattito
12.30 - Pausa
14.30 - Tavola rotonda: SCIENZE E TECNOLOGIE: SAPERI E RESPONSABILITA'
DI GUERRA E DI PACE (Coordina Claudio
Cancelli)
18.00 - Fine del convegno
Home page del Convegno : http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni
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Committee for Peace in the Balkans Update No 8 Jne 2000
CONTENTS : Latest on 10th June Conference
10th JUNE CONFERENCE
Committee for Peace in the Balkans International Conference
NATO, Yugoslavia and the new world order-
one year after NATO bombing
Saturday 10 June
10.30am to 5.30pm
Conway Hall, Red Lion Sq, London WC2
speakers include:
Alice Mahon MP Tony Benn MP Tam Dalyell MP Harold Pinter
Eve-Ann
Prentice Diana Johnstone
with international guests from Greece Italy Germany France
Sweden and elsewhere
topics include:
Building Bridges Eye-witness reports Speak out against NATO war
crimes
Sanctions -- economic warfare against Yugoslavia NATO and the new arms
race Kosovo today The human cost of NATO intervention The media -
NATO
's willing accomplice? International consequences of NATO's war on
Yugoslavia The anti-war movement - experiences on the ground
Registration - in advance or on the door
Organisations, per delegate £10 ??Waged individuals £6 ? Unwaged £3 ?
We / I wish to register and enclose £_____
We / I enclose a donation of £_______
Please send more information about CfPiB ?
Name
Address
Phone/email
Make cheques payable to 'Committee for Peace in the Balkans' and return
to
the address below
Contact the Committee for Peace in the Balkans
c/o Alice Mahon MP, House of Commons, SW1A 0AA
Telephone 020 7275 0164
Email committee@...
Website www.peaceinbalkans.freeserve.co.uk
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LONDON WEDNESDAY JUNE 28, 2000
HOUSE OF LORDS - COMMITTEE ROOM 4
12:00 HOURS - PRESS CONFERENCE AND PUBLIC MEETING
------------------------------------------------
CAMPAIGN FOR JUSTICE FOR THE PEOPLE OF YUGOSLAVIA
------------------------------------------------
DEMANDING:
1) Indictment as war criminals of all those responsible - including all
the
NATO leaders and commanding officers - for the decisions and actions
surrounding the launching and waging of aggressive war against the
people
of Yugoslavia in March 1999.
2) Reparations for all damages to the lives and property of the victims
of
aggression to be paid in full by the aggressors.
PLEASE DIARISE:
LONDON WEDNESDAY JUNE 28, 2000
HOUSE OF LORDS - COMMITTEE ROOM 4
12:00 HOURS - PRESS CONFERENCE AND PUBLIC MEETING
"To initiate a war of aggression.... is the supreme international crime,
differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself
the
accumulated evil of the whole". - From the Declaration in the Judgement
of
the International War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremberg, 1945.
"Launching a war of aggression is a crime that no political or economic
situation can justify". ".. if certain acts in violation of treaties
are
crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or Germany
does
them..... we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct
against
others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us". -
Supreme
Court Justice Robert Jackson - Chief American Prosecutor at Nuremberg,
1945.
"..... the second purpose of the trial was to lay down the rules of
international law for the future, not only making the waging of
aggressive
war unlawful, but for the first time, making the statesmen who led their
countries into an aggressive war personally responsible for what they'd
done." - Lord Shawcross, - Senior British Prosecutor at Nuremberg War
Crimes Trial, 1945.
Sponsored by:
Justice International - Christians Against Nato Aggression - Planning
For
Peace
Speakers from the sponsoring and other international organisations
supporting to be announced soon.
London, May 25, 2000
The Justice International Secretariat
--------- COORDINAMENTO ROMANO PER LA JUGOSLAVIA -----------
RIMSKI SAVEZ ZA JUGOSLAVIJU
e-mail: crj@... - URL: http://marx2001.org/crj
http://www.egroups.com/group/crj-mailinglist/
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LE INCREDIBILI AVVENTURE DEL SIGNOR ASTRIT DAKLI
1 - "UN SIMPATICO TEXANO"
Astrit Dakli e' stato recentemente in visita nel protettorato del
Kosovo, dove - parole sue su "Il Manifesto" dei primi di luglio 1999 -
"la convivenza non e' piu' possibile". Per il suo viaggio ha scelto di
farsi accompagnare dalla ONG "Care", gia' protagonista, con la sezione
australiana, di uno scandalo durante i bombardamenti a causa degli
infiltrati della NATO al suo interno. Ottimi i rapporti anche con le
truppe di occupazione e con l'amministrazione coloniale, ad esempio con
l'amministratore UNMIK del capoluogo, tale J.F. Carter, definito "un
simpatico texano".
(fonte: "Il Manifesto", 28 e 30 maggio 2000)
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1 - "UN SIMPATICO TEXANO"
Astrit Dakli e' stato recentemente in visita nel protettorato del
Kosovo, dove - parole sue su "Il Manifesto" dei primi di luglio 1999 -
"la convivenza non e' piu' possibile". Per il suo viaggio ha scelto di
farsi accompagnare dalla ONG "Care", gia' protagonista, con la sezione
australiana, di uno scandalo durante i bombardamenti a causa degli
infiltrati della NATO al suo interno. Ottimi i rapporti anche con le
truppe di occupazione e con l'amministrazione coloniale, ad esempio con
l'amministratore UNMIK del capoluogo, tale J.F. Carter, definito "un
simpatico texano".
(fonte: "Il Manifesto", 28 e 30 maggio 2000)
--------- COORDINAMENTO ROMANO PER LA JUGOSLAVIA -----------
RIMSKI SAVEZ ZA JUGOSLAVIJU
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ALCUNE IMPORTANTI FONTI DI INFORMAZIONE SULLA SITUAZIONE
NELLA PROVINCIA SERBA DI KOSOVO E METOHIJA
Nota: Sfortunatamente tutti i documenti importanti reperibili sono in
lingua inglese o serbocroata; anche questo puo' farci riflettere sul
livello di sudditanza culturale e politica del nostro paese.
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NOTIZIE DAL KOSMET, GIORNO PER GIORNO
http://www.kosovo.com/news/
Kosovo.com : News : Kosovo Flash News
Belgrade Media Monitoring
Compilation from Belgrade daily newspapers, prepared
by editorial staff of the Voice of Kosovo and Metohia
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KFOR MY ASS: IL VERO RUOLO DELLA KFOR IN KOSMET
http://crash.to/KFORMYASS
If you believe KFOR is in Kosovo to protect human rights, then this page
may trouble you...
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MEMORANDUM SULLA (NON) IMPLEMENTAZIONE DELLA RISOLUZIONE 1244
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/2000-05/15/18903.html
Memorandum of The Government of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on The
Implementation of UNSCR 1244
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LA STAMPA OCCIDENTALE SULLA SITUAZIONE IN KOSMET
IN TEMPI "NON SOSPETTI": GLI ARTICOLI DEGLI ANNI OTTANTA
(QUANDO SI PARLAVA DELLA "PULIZIA ETNICA" A DANNO DEI SERBI)
http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html
Old articles about Kosovo
Articles written when Kosovo was not famous...
Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated
by mainstream
channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling
feature of many such
articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region. We
are told that Kosovo is the
cradle of Serbian nation and we learn about the battle of 1389 and then,
in most articles, with a
gigantic leap that would make envious any athlete, the article strides
600 years later, in 1989,
when the Kosovo autonomy was rescinded by Milosevic. What happened
during these 600 years,
pray tell? Or, at least, what happened during the last few years before
1989?
It is now difficult to write about the recent past of Kosovo without
taking into account the war
which is raging just now. So, it occurred to me that if I managed to
find articles written in the 80s,
when Kosovo was not famous, at least these would be free of any bias due
to the later events.
A good friend who is also a wizard in database searching undertook the
task and here is the fruit
of his labours, a bunch of older articles about Kosovo. Be warned, the
articles were not written
for posterity. These were run-of-the-mill, "boring" articles about
contemporary events. But
perhaps here lies their interest, for they present the situation without
any make-up. Anyway,
here they are...
N.S.
Ass.Press: Minorities leaving Yugoslav province dominated by Albanians
(1981)
CSM: Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge? (1981)
CSM: Kosovo - Marble sidewalks but troubled industries (1981)
Economist: Yugoslavia's home-grown bother (1981)
NYT: A storm has passed, others are gathering (1981)
WP: Emergency steps in face of ethnich disturbance (1981)
FoF: Serbs in Kosovo exodus (1982)
FT: Kosovo riots jolt the regions (1982)
FT: Police in Kosovo (1982)
NYT: Yugoslavs seek to quell strife (1982)
BBC: Serbian Presidency discusses emigration from Kosovo (1985)
Economist: Is fair unfair? (1986)
BBC: Serbian citizens from Kosovo protest (1986)
CSM: Tensions among ethnic groups in Yugoslavia (1986)
NYT: Minorities uneasy in Kosovo (1986)
NYT: Serbs fear the ethnic Albanians (1986)
Reuters: Kosovo revives Yugoslavia's ethnic nightmare (1986)
Xinhua: Further efforts are called for to stop Serbian migration from
Kosovo (1986)
Ass.Press: Serb, Montenegrin pupils boycott classes (1987)
NYT: Belgrade battles Kosovo Serbs (1987)
NYT: Protest by Serbs (1987)
Reuters: Serbs rally against alleged Albanian attacks (1987)
Reuters: Serbian demontrations add to Yugoslavia's woes (1987)
Xinhua: Federal police in Kosovo (1987)
Xinhua: Thousands of women demonstrate in Kosovo (1987)
CSM: Ethnic groups struggle for same land (1988)
NYT: Serbs vent anger at officials (1988)
Reuters: Yugoslav leaders call for control in Kosovo (1988)
---
ARCHIVI SUL KOSOVO
http://198.247.200.10/backgrounders/Archives_Kosovo/
Archives on Kosovo
The Strategic Issues Research Institute of the U.S.
---
DOMANDE-BASE SUL KOSOVO
http://www.balkanpeace.org/beginner/
Center for Peace in the Balkans (UK)
Kosovo for Absolute Beginners
and Frequently Asked Questions
---
RISORSE INTERNET SUL KOSOVO
http://src-home.slav.hokudai.ac.jp/eng/cee/kosovo-e.html
Kosovo - Internet Resources
---
GLI ARTICOLI PIU' IMPORTANTI SULLA GUERRA 1999 PER IL KOSOVO
http://www.computec-int.com/bsc/war/editor1.htm
The Bad Serb Club
Editorials
===
TESTO DELLA RISOLUZIONE ONU E DELL'ACCORDO TECNICO-MILITARE
-> http://www.nato.int/kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm
Resolution 1244 (1999)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 4011th meeting, on 10 June 1999
-> http://www.nato.int/kosovo/docu/a990609a.htm
Military Technical Agreement
between the International Security Force ("KFOR") and
the Governments of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Republic
of Serbia
---
ALTRI DOCUMENTI SUGLI ACCORDI INTERNAZIONALI
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/peace.htm
KOSOVO & YUGOSLAVIA: LAW IN CRISIS
... a presentation of JURIST: The Law Professors' Network
Pittsburgh | Cambridge | Toronto | Canberra
Peace Agreement
latest wire service stories on the Kosovo peace process
NATO-KLA demilitarisation agreement [June 21, 1999]
agreement on Russian participation in KFOR [June 18, 1999]
U.N. Security Council Resolution [June 10, 1999]
military-technical agreement between NATO and Yugoslavia [June 9,
1999]
G8 draft U.N. Security Council Resolution [June 8, 1999]
text of the G8 peace plan [June 3,1999]
G8 peace principles [May 6, 1999]
the "Rambouillet Accord" rejected by the Yugoslav government in March
the peace plan vs. Rambouillet: a comparison (BBC)
===
SCAMBIO DI BATTUTE CON UN UFFICIALE DELLA KFOR
SUL MANCATO RISPETTO DEGLI ACCORDI DI PACE
Subject: Re: [STOPNATO] Building Death
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:25:15 +0200
From: "Darko Nadic" <nadic@...>
To: <STOPNATO@...>
STOP NATO: NO PASARAN! - HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.COM
Maj. Kahrs,
You've raised the wrong matter, or can I say this - you Maj. Kahrs
raised
problem that you don't know well. And you said that - "I am not sure".
The
change of constitution of Serbia was legal 100%, because Parliament
adopted
changes. What do you want more? Is it democracy? How is it in your
country?
Do they have to ask permission from Belgium or Spanish Government to
make
changes in own Constitution? Where is evidence that was illegal act?
According to the former SFRY Constitution Kosovo and Metohia was
(socialist)
autonomy province in Socialist Republic of Serbia and part of SFRY.
Kosovo
was autonomy province not a state. But, first Kosovo and Metohia was
and
still is, autonomy province in Serbia, like it or not, part of Serbia.
That's in former and current Serbian Constitution and which is much more
important that's it in ours hearts.
Like any other "press officer" you are trying to calm down this
"exchanging of ideas". And after all, you are not my student :-) Read
very
carrefully recommended Constitutions. :-) You can find FRY and Serbia
constitutions on some web sites.
O.K. you reminded me. But, now it's my turn to remind you: Peacekeeper
is a
term for person or , organization which is in charge to keep peace,
control
peace process, improve peace. Definition is mine, not based on some
theories. So, I know UNSC resolution 1244, but KFOR did nothing to
protect
Serbs. Do you have any valid figures about killed Serbs after yours
"peacekeeping" activities? And under which curcomstances? Who shot? Why
do
you still protect some criminals like KLA leader Adnan Cheku (or Chequ)
who
made war crime acts in Krajina (Croatia) and here on Kosovo? It's 'cause
they are, like Cheku and other murderers, trained by NATO generals and
they
obeys NATO orders. So, as a press officer can you answer to this
question:
is there among Albanians any "indicted war criminal"? Another one
question:,
why Yugoslav Army and Police forces are not now on Kosovo, it was
written in
UNSCR 1244 Resolution ?
Let's see: " 4. Confirms that after the withdrawal an agreed number of
Yugoslav
and Serb military and police personnel will be
permitted
to return
to Kosovo to perform the functions in accordance
with
Annex 2; "
Let's see annex 2 : "6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav
and
Serbian personnel will be permitted to return to perform the following
functions:
-- Liaison with international civil mission and
international
security presence
-- Marking/clearing minefields
-- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites
-- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings. "
Well, Maj. Kahrs? Let me remind you what else KFOR have to do according
to
UNSCR 1244 resolution, and what they didn't and they never will:
Go again: (from UNSCR 1244)
"9.b) demilitarizing of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) and other armed
Kosovo Albanian groups as required in paragraph 15 below; (KFOR made
Kosovo
Protection Forces from KLA terrorists
c) establishing a secure environment in which refugees and displaced
persons
can return home in safety, the international civil presence can operate,
a
transitional administration can be established and humanitarian aid can
be
delivered; (how many Serbs, Turks, Roma return home?)
d) ensuring public safety and order until the international civil
presence
can take responsibility for this task; (Where is public safety? On
Prishtina
streets? You must be joking!)
h) ensuring the protection and freedom of movement , and for the end of
this
list
11. j) protecting and promoting human rights; (For whom? As far as I
know
KFOR protected only one Kuschner's "private Serb" - member of so called
Kuschner's Kosovo International Government. And you protected him very
well,
vith armoured cars.)
You said that Kosovo is a part of Yugoslavia. O.K. Is there in Prishtina
any Yugoslav blue-white-red flag? Or people can see only Red Albanian
flag
with two headed black eagle? If is Kosovo part of Yugoslavia put
Yugoslav
flag and prove what you wrote. And protect this blue-white-red flag as
more
as you protect peace down there.
NO PASARAN!
NEXT YEAR IN KOSOVO!
DN
(you know my name, surname and university degree:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: KFOR MAIN - Kahrs, Kristian, MAJ, NO <KAHRS@...>
To: 'Darko Nadic' <nadic@...>; STOPNATO@...
<STOPNATO@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [STOPNATO] Building Death
>Dear Dr. Nadic
>
>I'll not answer all your questions. However, I'd like to raise the matter
of
>the Yugoslav constitution. Kosovo is a part of Yugoslavia, but I'm not sure
>that the change of the constitution in 1989 was legal. Shouldn't the 1974
>constitution apply?
>
>You're asking how would you will feel if you were such a "peacekeeper" in
>your "no-name" country? Here I have to remind you that everything we do is
>founded in UNSCR 1244. Even if you do not like the UN, you would have to
>relate to the situation.
>
>rgds
>
>maj. kahrs
>
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NELLA PROVINCIA SERBA DI KOSOVO E METOHIJA
Nota: Sfortunatamente tutti i documenti importanti reperibili sono in
lingua inglese o serbocroata; anche questo puo' farci riflettere sul
livello di sudditanza culturale e politica del nostro paese.
---
NOTIZIE DAL KOSMET, GIORNO PER GIORNO
http://www.kosovo.com/news/
Kosovo.com : News : Kosovo Flash News
Belgrade Media Monitoring
Compilation from Belgrade daily newspapers, prepared
by editorial staff of the Voice of Kosovo and Metohia
---
KFOR MY ASS: IL VERO RUOLO DELLA KFOR IN KOSMET
http://crash.to/KFORMYASS
If you believe KFOR is in Kosovo to protect human rights, then this page
may trouble you...
---
MEMORANDUM SULLA (NON) IMPLEMENTAZIONE DELLA RISOLUZIONE 1244
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/2000-05/15/18903.html
Memorandum of The Government of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on The
Implementation of UNSCR 1244
---
LA STAMPA OCCIDENTALE SULLA SITUAZIONE IN KOSMET
IN TEMPI "NON SOSPETTI": GLI ARTICOLI DEGLI ANNI OTTANTA
(QUANDO SI PARLAVA DELLA "PULIZIA ETNICA" A DANNO DEI SERBI)
http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html
Old articles about Kosovo
Articles written when Kosovo was not famous...
Background material about Kosovo, especially the material disseminated
by mainstream
channels, is deficient in many aspects, but perhaps the most startling
feature of many such
articles is the singular way of examining the history of the region. We
are told that Kosovo is the
cradle of Serbian nation and we learn about the battle of 1389 and then,
in most articles, with a
gigantic leap that would make envious any athlete, the article strides
600 years later, in 1989,
when the Kosovo autonomy was rescinded by Milosevic. What happened
during these 600 years,
pray tell? Or, at least, what happened during the last few years before
1989?
It is now difficult to write about the recent past of Kosovo without
taking into account the war
which is raging just now. So, it occurred to me that if I managed to
find articles written in the 80s,
when Kosovo was not famous, at least these would be free of any bias due
to the later events.
A good friend who is also a wizard in database searching undertook the
task and here is the fruit
of his labours, a bunch of older articles about Kosovo. Be warned, the
articles were not written
for posterity. These were run-of-the-mill, "boring" articles about
contemporary events. But
perhaps here lies their interest, for they present the situation without
any make-up. Anyway,
here they are...
N.S.
Ass.Press: Minorities leaving Yugoslav province dominated by Albanians
(1981)
CSM: Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge? (1981)
CSM: Kosovo - Marble sidewalks but troubled industries (1981)
Economist: Yugoslavia's home-grown bother (1981)
NYT: A storm has passed, others are gathering (1981)
WP: Emergency steps in face of ethnich disturbance (1981)
FoF: Serbs in Kosovo exodus (1982)
FT: Kosovo riots jolt the regions (1982)
FT: Police in Kosovo (1982)
NYT: Yugoslavs seek to quell strife (1982)
BBC: Serbian Presidency discusses emigration from Kosovo (1985)
Economist: Is fair unfair? (1986)
BBC: Serbian citizens from Kosovo protest (1986)
CSM: Tensions among ethnic groups in Yugoslavia (1986)
NYT: Minorities uneasy in Kosovo (1986)
NYT: Serbs fear the ethnic Albanians (1986)
Reuters: Kosovo revives Yugoslavia's ethnic nightmare (1986)
Xinhua: Further efforts are called for to stop Serbian migration from
Kosovo (1986)
Ass.Press: Serb, Montenegrin pupils boycott classes (1987)
NYT: Belgrade battles Kosovo Serbs (1987)
NYT: Protest by Serbs (1987)
Reuters: Serbs rally against alleged Albanian attacks (1987)
Reuters: Serbian demontrations add to Yugoslavia's woes (1987)
Xinhua: Federal police in Kosovo (1987)
Xinhua: Thousands of women demonstrate in Kosovo (1987)
CSM: Ethnic groups struggle for same land (1988)
NYT: Serbs vent anger at officials (1988)
Reuters: Yugoslav leaders call for control in Kosovo (1988)
---
ARCHIVI SUL KOSOVO
http://198.247.200.10/backgrounders/Archives_Kosovo/
Archives on Kosovo
The Strategic Issues Research Institute of the U.S.
---
DOMANDE-BASE SUL KOSOVO
http://www.balkanpeace.org/beginner/
Center for Peace in the Balkans (UK)
Kosovo for Absolute Beginners
and Frequently Asked Questions
---
RISORSE INTERNET SUL KOSOVO
http://src-home.slav.hokudai.ac.jp/eng/cee/kosovo-e.html
Kosovo - Internet Resources
---
GLI ARTICOLI PIU' IMPORTANTI SULLA GUERRA 1999 PER IL KOSOVO
http://www.computec-int.com/bsc/war/editor1.htm
The Bad Serb Club
Editorials
===
TESTO DELLA RISOLUZIONE ONU E DELL'ACCORDO TECNICO-MILITARE
-> http://www.nato.int/kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm
Resolution 1244 (1999)
Adopted by the Security Council at its 4011th meeting, on 10 June 1999
-> http://www.nato.int/kosovo/docu/a990609a.htm
Military Technical Agreement
between the International Security Force ("KFOR") and
the Governments of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Republic
of Serbia
---
ALTRI DOCUMENTI SUGLI ACCORDI INTERNAZIONALI
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/peace.htm
KOSOVO & YUGOSLAVIA: LAW IN CRISIS
... a presentation of JURIST: The Law Professors' Network
Pittsburgh | Cambridge | Toronto | Canberra
Peace Agreement
latest wire service stories on the Kosovo peace process
NATO-KLA demilitarisation agreement [June 21, 1999]
agreement on Russian participation in KFOR [June 18, 1999]
U.N. Security Council Resolution [June 10, 1999]
military-technical agreement between NATO and Yugoslavia [June 9,
1999]
G8 draft U.N. Security Council Resolution [June 8, 1999]
text of the G8 peace plan [June 3,1999]
G8 peace principles [May 6, 1999]
the "Rambouillet Accord" rejected by the Yugoslav government in March
the peace plan vs. Rambouillet: a comparison (BBC)
===
SCAMBIO DI BATTUTE CON UN UFFICIALE DELLA KFOR
SUL MANCATO RISPETTO DEGLI ACCORDI DI PACE
Subject: Re: [STOPNATO] Building Death
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:25:15 +0200
From: "Darko Nadic" <nadic@...>
To: <STOPNATO@...>
STOP NATO: NO PASARAN! - HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.COM
Maj. Kahrs,
You've raised the wrong matter, or can I say this - you Maj. Kahrs
raised
problem that you don't know well. And you said that - "I am not sure".
The
change of constitution of Serbia was legal 100%, because Parliament
adopted
changes. What do you want more? Is it democracy? How is it in your
country?
Do they have to ask permission from Belgium or Spanish Government to
make
changes in own Constitution? Where is evidence that was illegal act?
According to the former SFRY Constitution Kosovo and Metohia was
(socialist)
autonomy province in Socialist Republic of Serbia and part of SFRY.
Kosovo
was autonomy province not a state. But, first Kosovo and Metohia was
and
still is, autonomy province in Serbia, like it or not, part of Serbia.
That's in former and current Serbian Constitution and which is much more
important that's it in ours hearts.
Like any other "press officer" you are trying to calm down this
"exchanging of ideas". And after all, you are not my student :-) Read
very
carrefully recommended Constitutions. :-) You can find FRY and Serbia
constitutions on some web sites.
O.K. you reminded me. But, now it's my turn to remind you: Peacekeeper
is a
term for person or , organization which is in charge to keep peace,
control
peace process, improve peace. Definition is mine, not based on some
theories. So, I know UNSC resolution 1244, but KFOR did nothing to
protect
Serbs. Do you have any valid figures about killed Serbs after yours
"peacekeeping" activities? And under which curcomstances? Who shot? Why
do
you still protect some criminals like KLA leader Adnan Cheku (or Chequ)
who
made war crime acts in Krajina (Croatia) and here on Kosovo? It's 'cause
they are, like Cheku and other murderers, trained by NATO generals and
they
obeys NATO orders. So, as a press officer can you answer to this
question:
is there among Albanians any "indicted war criminal"? Another one
question:,
why Yugoslav Army and Police forces are not now on Kosovo, it was
written in
UNSCR 1244 Resolution ?
Let's see: " 4. Confirms that after the withdrawal an agreed number of
Yugoslav
and Serb military and police personnel will be
permitted
to return
to Kosovo to perform the functions in accordance
with
Annex 2; "
Let's see annex 2 : "6. After withdrawal, an agreed number of Yugoslav
and
Serbian personnel will be permitted to return to perform the following
functions:
-- Liaison with international civil mission and
international
security presence
-- Marking/clearing minefields
-- Maintaining a presence at Serb patrimonial sites
-- Maintaining a presence at key border crossings. "
Well, Maj. Kahrs? Let me remind you what else KFOR have to do according
to
UNSCR 1244 resolution, and what they didn't and they never will:
Go again: (from UNSCR 1244)
"9.b) demilitarizing of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) and other armed
Kosovo Albanian groups as required in paragraph 15 below; (KFOR made
Kosovo
Protection Forces from KLA terrorists
c) establishing a secure environment in which refugees and displaced
persons
can return home in safety, the international civil presence can operate,
a
transitional administration can be established and humanitarian aid can
be
delivered; (how many Serbs, Turks, Roma return home?)
d) ensuring public safety and order until the international civil
presence
can take responsibility for this task; (Where is public safety? On
Prishtina
streets? You must be joking!)
h) ensuring the protection and freedom of movement , and for the end of
this
list
11. j) protecting and promoting human rights; (For whom? As far as I
know
KFOR protected only one Kuschner's "private Serb" - member of so called
Kuschner's Kosovo International Government. And you protected him very
well,
vith armoured cars.)
You said that Kosovo is a part of Yugoslavia. O.K. Is there in Prishtina
any Yugoslav blue-white-red flag? Or people can see only Red Albanian
flag
with two headed black eagle? If is Kosovo part of Yugoslavia put
Yugoslav
flag and prove what you wrote. And protect this blue-white-red flag as
more
as you protect peace down there.
NO PASARAN!
NEXT YEAR IN KOSOVO!
DN
(you know my name, surname and university degree:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: KFOR MAIN - Kahrs, Kristian, MAJ, NO <KAHRS@...>
To: 'Darko Nadic' <nadic@...>; STOPNATO@...
<STOPNATO@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: [STOPNATO] Building Death
>Dear Dr. Nadic
>
>I'll not answer all your questions. However, I'd like to raise the matter
of
>the Yugoslav constitution. Kosovo is a part of Yugoslavia, but I'm not sure
>that the change of the constitution in 1989 was legal. Shouldn't the 1974
>constitution apply?
>
>You're asking how would you will feel if you were such a "peacekeeper" in
>your "no-name" country? Here I have to remind you that everything we do is
>founded in UNSCR 1244. Even if you do not like the UN, you would have to
>relate to the situation.
>
>rgds
>
>maj. kahrs
>
--------- COORDINAMENTO ROMANO PER LA JUGOSLAVIA -----------
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Della miseria della opposizione di destra in Serbia
Quinta parte: LA "DIASPORA" SERBA IN AGITAZIONE
===
LETTERA ALLA "DIASPORA" SERBO-AMERICANA
GLI AFFARI INTERNI DELLA SERBIA SONO... INTERNI!
To the Serbian Diaspora...
Internal Affairs of Serbia are - Internal!
by Petar Makara (05/18/2000)
[ Note from emperors-clothes: Petar Makara is one of the originators,
within
the Serbian Diaspora, of resistance to the US attack on Yugoslavia. With
Dan
Chukurov, he founded www.srpska-mreza.com, which has the best collection
of
documents about Serbian history and current events on the Internet. Mr.
Makara is a computer scientist working in NY. ]
www.tenc.net [emperors-clothes]
My intention is to defend the Serbian people, not Milosevich or any
other
single individual. The fact is that Serbian people were chosen as a
target
for the West's New World Order experiment of 'Might is Right.' The West
has
attacked the very biological existence of the Serbian people. This is
obvious
from the open genocide that the West committed on the Serbs in Croatia
(Krajina), Bosnia, Kosovo and its current efforts to make trouble in the
remaining part of Yugoslavia. The Serbian people in Serbia have to
understand
that the Western elite is not for or against the Serbs per se. The West
is
interested in only one thing: to prolong war 1) as an excuse for the
extreme
spending by the military and 2) for the conquest of the globe.
The Serbian people, left without any significant foreign defense, were a
convenient target in this laboratory where the West tests its muscle.
The
only way for the Serbs to defend their freedom is to fight for it. And
the
only question regarding the Milosevich government is: has it put up a
good
fight or not. For myself, as someone who lives in the West, I feel I
have a
right to advise my people regarding the nature of the West. On the other
hand, Milosevich and his government are an internal matter for the
Serbian
people, that is, for those who live in Serbia, to deal with. Those Serbs
who
live in the Diaspora do not know as much as the Serbs who live in the
country; they don't have the right to pretend to be smarter on this
particular issue than their relatives who live in Yugoslavia, under
whatever
conditions.
The Serbs in the Diaspora have a humongous task, to present to the
world, to
their neighbors, the truth, the facts, about the Serbian people, their
history as well as the facts about the current struggle and the
injustices
the West was and is inflicting on the Serbian people. This is a task
which is
frequently avoided by the same people who now want to preach to the
Serbs in
Serbia how to handle their internal affairs. We have to do our part,
fulfill
the duty that is naturally ours before we advise the Serbian people
about
their own tasks and ways to live. Once again, where we could profitably
advise our relatives is help them understand who their enemy is in the
West,
this enemy which is the largest problem facing Serbs as a people.
As we all know, lots of forces in Serbia are paid off by Western
institutions
in order to further instability, weaken the country so that they can
finish
up their job of genocide. We have to find strength and remind ourselves
of
the ancient advice of our forefathers, that only unity can save the
Serbs. We
have to find every possible way to unite all our different political
parties
and movements in the most important goal: the biological survival of the
Serbs. Only united, as we were at the time of NATO's air mass slaughter,
can
we once again face the awesome enemy.
Our struggle is getting harsher and more important by the day. At this
very
point, finally, Western institutions have started openly to say that
their
air assault on Yugoslavia was a military failure. What's more they have
also
admitted that the only purpose of the bombing was to terrorize
civilians.
Many allies of the United States, being European, are having second
thoughts
and have realized to some extent that the attack on Yugoslavia was an
attack
on their neighbor, an attack on Europe itself. Having in mind that a
repetition of the air assault is out of the question, the United States
is
pushing extremely hard to use alternative weapons to destabilize the
country.
The Serbs have to understand that this particular brand of fascism is
two
faced. It has adopted the brutal military approach of its German
teachers.
But it also implements a second weapon, not previously used by fascists:
money. Wherever bombs don't work they try to buy their way in, to
subjugate
and occupy those who resist.
Those in Serbia and Montenegro who accepted money from the West are by
definition collaborators with the enemy. They cannot pretend to be
leaders of
Serbian political life. They are traitors plain and simple; in any
so-called
democratic Western country they would be dealt with in much harsher
fashion
than they have been in Yugoslavia.
The peaceful anti-IMF demonstrations in democratic, free-market
Washington
were attacked harshly by special police. Even bystanders got arrested
and
brutalized in jail. How does that compare to closing the paid mouthpiece
of
the West in Serbia? How does that compare to breaking-up stone-throwing
demonstrators, in a country that is in fact besieged by the enemy? If
the
Serbian people do not like Milosevich and want to topple him, it is a
question that the Serbian people of Serbia have to deal with,
themselves.
Kissing the hands of war criminals like Albright, as appears to be a
kind of
rite required of all these so-called leaders who take US money, this
hand-kissing does not fit in with the glorious history of the Serbian
people.
The agents of the West, paid by Western money to do the job of
subjugating
and destroying the Serbian people, should be exposed by the Serbian
people
themselves. It seems to me that the Serbian people, despite everything,
still
do not sufficiently understand the evil of the Western elite and the
need to
despise this elite and their paid agents in Serbia.
Why should anyone in the Diaspora be going around, organizing
conferences in
various countries or in Washington, and so on, with the intention of
mobilizing the Serbian people against the current government? By doing
that
they have in effect betrayed their own task of defending the Serbian
people
in the West. They have left their own trenches and are intentionally or
unintentionally helping the enemies of their people. PM
Further reading:
Concerning Mr. Makara's charge that the West committed genocide against
the
Serbs in Croatia (Krajina) See "The invasion of Serbian Krajina" by Greg
Elich at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/elich/krajina.html
Concerning the global scope of US plans, see Why is NATO in Yugoslavia?
by
Sean Gervasi at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/gervasi/why.htm
Regarding Mr. Makara's charge that NATO is behind the all-out attack on
Serbs, Roma ('Gypsies') and others in Kosovo, see:
How will you plead at the trial, Mr.Annan? at
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/howwill.htm
Quotes United Nations documentation that terror and crime are
flourishing in
Kosovo under UN/NATO control.
Driven from Kosovo: Jewish Leader Blames NATO - An Interview With Cedda
Prlincevic at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/ceda.htm Mr.
Prlincevic has direct experience with NATO's complicty with KLA terror.
Gracko survivors blame NATO by Jared Israel at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/misc/grack.htm
This article reports the response of relatives and friends of the 14
farmers
slaughtered by KLA terrorists during NATO/UN control of Kosovo and shows
substantiates the charge that NATO is responsible for terrorism
throughout
the province.
If you find emperors-clothes.com useful, we can use your help...
All our expenses are covered by individual donations. We are (still)
behind
on phone bills (we use the phone for interviews and editorial meetings)
and
for Lexis, the wonderful Internet tool that we use to research articles.
Any
donation will help with these expenses and for special projects like
'JUDGMENT', the film we recently produced.
You can Order 'Judgment' now!
This movie shows precisely how images were created to demonize the
Bosnian
Serbs. Remember the 'emaciated man behind barbed wire'? Would you like
to
know the real story? Judgment shows step by step how these false images
were
created. That is, the phony death camp pictures are fabricated before
your
eyes.
We suggest a $25 donation for the JUDGMENT video inside the US ($26
outside
the US) including shipping - but send a donation of any amount and
request
the video and we'll send it to you. We want everyone to see the truth.
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Newton, MA 02461-0321
(Please specify how many films you are ordering.)
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ANCORA LORO! (POESIA E CONTRO-POESIA)
Subject: Re: Opet ONI
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:10:28 -0700
From: Bob Djurdjevic <bobdj@...>
To: TiM Readers <bulletins@...>
PHOENIX, ARIZONA - PRIVATNA KORESPONDENCIJA
Moj odgovor u prilogu (tekst plave boje) je bio upucen (i poslat) G-dinu
Djordju Konjikovicu koji
mi je ove svoje stihove (tekst crne boje) danas poslao iz Francuske.
Iako ja ovog gospodina licno
ne znam, na njegovoj .CC listi primecujem niz poznatih
globalista-mundijalaca, koji su takodje
dobili moj odgovor.
Bob Dj.
-----------------------
IZ PHOENIX, ARIZONE
Interesantni stihovi. Prigodan sarkazam.
Ali sta bi sa drugom stranom novcica? Gde su ONI drugi, ONI inostrani
koji Srbe tako
dusmanski vole?
Zato vam dole prilazem "ONI - Br. 2". Stihovi na srpskom mi nisu bas
specijalitet, ali izgleda
da ce misli ipak biti za vas novitet?
Bob Dj.
---------
At 01:58 AM 5/26/2000 +0200, djordje konjikovic wrote:
Opet ONI
Pre desetak godina kad Ideja bledi,
ONI se ne daju, menjaju odelo
objavljuju svima da reforma sledi
(i drzavi nasoj spremaju opelo)
Nove vam parole sa Zapada diriguju -
"sloboda narodu, smrt komunizmu!"
I dok Mujama, Ustasama ONI namiguju,
naivni Srbi nasedaju Njihovom cinizmu
Dok brzo i spretno povlace granice,
crtaju grbove, kuju novcanice,
viju nas u maglu i pamet nam sole :
svi drugi nas mrze a ONI nas vole
Apsolutno. Samo ONI vas "vole" sa nozem iza ledja, a vi Njih volite bez
ikakvih medja.
(Oni = Zapad = Novi Svetski Poredak (NSP) = NATO)
Dok po nama seju granate i vrevu,
putuju u Dejton, Pariz i Zenevu.
Mi crni u dimu, ONI banku drze
mi goli u zbegu, ONI grabe brze
Tacno. Jer ONI vas mrze iz dna duse, dok vi Njih slavite na klepetuse.
(ONI = Zapad = Novi Svetski Poredak = NATO)
Danas ONI opet pevaju nam ode
orni da nas dalje u buducnost vode
ONI sto su rusili, sada bi da grade
ONI sto su palili, hteli bi da kade
Da. ONI = Organi Novosvetskog Imperijalizma? Ili ONI = srpski poltrONI?
Ili ONI =
Koka-kolasi koji su vas prvo zasipali bombama, da bi vas sada rasipali
OTPOROM.
Korekcija... OTROVOM (bratoubilackog "oslobodjenja" Srbije od same
sebe).
Dok nam gase svetlost da u mraku love
i dok Trajan krije kozje usi svoje,
po carstvu se ore svirale od zove
kosovi se pare i pcele se roje
...dok se ONI goje; ni Boga se ne boje.
ONI-parcovi se pare i Kosovo zare.
Pozdrav pokretu OTPOR i studentima koji su kao stafetu mladosti
nosili pendrek
na kome ja pisalo "niko ne sme da vas bije"
Dj. Konjikovic (Nato placenik)
Molitve za spasenje dusa hiljada srpskih zrtava NSP demokratije! Molitve
za one prezivele
koje sada ONI sa Zapada truju OTPOROM.
Pozdrav americkim patriotima koje su pendreci NSP demokratije ucili
ulicnom bontonu u
Seattlu i Washingtonu.
"Sloboda narodu, smrt cinizmu!" (NATO/NSP vrste, naravno).
Bob Dj. (NATO cinik)
----
Bob Djurdjevic
TRUTH IN MEDIA
Phoenix, Arizona
e-mail: publisher@...
Visit the Truth in Media Web site http://www.truthinmedia.org/ for more
articles on geopolitical
affairs.
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Quinta parte: LA "DIASPORA" SERBA IN AGITAZIONE
===
LETTERA ALLA "DIASPORA" SERBO-AMERICANA
GLI AFFARI INTERNI DELLA SERBIA SONO... INTERNI!
To the Serbian Diaspora...
Internal Affairs of Serbia are - Internal!
by Petar Makara (05/18/2000)
[ Note from emperors-clothes: Petar Makara is one of the originators,
within
the Serbian Diaspora, of resistance to the US attack on Yugoslavia. With
Dan
Chukurov, he founded www.srpska-mreza.com, which has the best collection
of
documents about Serbian history and current events on the Internet. Mr.
Makara is a computer scientist working in NY. ]
www.tenc.net [emperors-clothes]
My intention is to defend the Serbian people, not Milosevich or any
other
single individual. The fact is that Serbian people were chosen as a
target
for the West's New World Order experiment of 'Might is Right.' The West
has
attacked the very biological existence of the Serbian people. This is
obvious
from the open genocide that the West committed on the Serbs in Croatia
(Krajina), Bosnia, Kosovo and its current efforts to make trouble in the
remaining part of Yugoslavia. The Serbian people in Serbia have to
understand
that the Western elite is not for or against the Serbs per se. The West
is
interested in only one thing: to prolong war 1) as an excuse for the
extreme
spending by the military and 2) for the conquest of the globe.
The Serbian people, left without any significant foreign defense, were a
convenient target in this laboratory where the West tests its muscle.
The
only way for the Serbs to defend their freedom is to fight for it. And
the
only question regarding the Milosevich government is: has it put up a
good
fight or not. For myself, as someone who lives in the West, I feel I
have a
right to advise my people regarding the nature of the West. On the other
hand, Milosevich and his government are an internal matter for the
Serbian
people, that is, for those who live in Serbia, to deal with. Those Serbs
who
live in the Diaspora do not know as much as the Serbs who live in the
country; they don't have the right to pretend to be smarter on this
particular issue than their relatives who live in Yugoslavia, under
whatever
conditions.
The Serbs in the Diaspora have a humongous task, to present to the
world, to
their neighbors, the truth, the facts, about the Serbian people, their
history as well as the facts about the current struggle and the
injustices
the West was and is inflicting on the Serbian people. This is a task
which is
frequently avoided by the same people who now want to preach to the
Serbs in
Serbia how to handle their internal affairs. We have to do our part,
fulfill
the duty that is naturally ours before we advise the Serbian people
about
their own tasks and ways to live. Once again, where we could profitably
advise our relatives is help them understand who their enemy is in the
West,
this enemy which is the largest problem facing Serbs as a people.
As we all know, lots of forces in Serbia are paid off by Western
institutions
in order to further instability, weaken the country so that they can
finish
up their job of genocide. We have to find strength and remind ourselves
of
the ancient advice of our forefathers, that only unity can save the
Serbs. We
have to find every possible way to unite all our different political
parties
and movements in the most important goal: the biological survival of the
Serbs. Only united, as we were at the time of NATO's air mass slaughter,
can
we once again face the awesome enemy.
Our struggle is getting harsher and more important by the day. At this
very
point, finally, Western institutions have started openly to say that
their
air assault on Yugoslavia was a military failure. What's more they have
also
admitted that the only purpose of the bombing was to terrorize
civilians.
Many allies of the United States, being European, are having second
thoughts
and have realized to some extent that the attack on Yugoslavia was an
attack
on their neighbor, an attack on Europe itself. Having in mind that a
repetition of the air assault is out of the question, the United States
is
pushing extremely hard to use alternative weapons to destabilize the
country.
The Serbs have to understand that this particular brand of fascism is
two
faced. It has adopted the brutal military approach of its German
teachers.
But it also implements a second weapon, not previously used by fascists:
money. Wherever bombs don't work they try to buy their way in, to
subjugate
and occupy those who resist.
Those in Serbia and Montenegro who accepted money from the West are by
definition collaborators with the enemy. They cannot pretend to be
leaders of
Serbian political life. They are traitors plain and simple; in any
so-called
democratic Western country they would be dealt with in much harsher
fashion
than they have been in Yugoslavia.
The peaceful anti-IMF demonstrations in democratic, free-market
Washington
were attacked harshly by special police. Even bystanders got arrested
and
brutalized in jail. How does that compare to closing the paid mouthpiece
of
the West in Serbia? How does that compare to breaking-up stone-throwing
demonstrators, in a country that is in fact besieged by the enemy? If
the
Serbian people do not like Milosevich and want to topple him, it is a
question that the Serbian people of Serbia have to deal with,
themselves.
Kissing the hands of war criminals like Albright, as appears to be a
kind of
rite required of all these so-called leaders who take US money, this
hand-kissing does not fit in with the glorious history of the Serbian
people.
The agents of the West, paid by Western money to do the job of
subjugating
and destroying the Serbian people, should be exposed by the Serbian
people
themselves. It seems to me that the Serbian people, despite everything,
still
do not sufficiently understand the evil of the Western elite and the
need to
despise this elite and their paid agents in Serbia.
Why should anyone in the Diaspora be going around, organizing
conferences in
various countries or in Washington, and so on, with the intention of
mobilizing the Serbian people against the current government? By doing
that
they have in effect betrayed their own task of defending the Serbian
people
in the West. They have left their own trenches and are intentionally or
unintentionally helping the enemies of their people. PM
Further reading:
Concerning Mr. Makara's charge that the West committed genocide against
the
Serbs in Croatia (Krajina) See "The invasion of Serbian Krajina" by Greg
Elich at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/elich/krajina.html
Concerning the global scope of US plans, see Why is NATO in Yugoslavia?
by
Sean Gervasi at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/gervasi/why.htm
Regarding Mr. Makara's charge that NATO is behind the all-out attack on
Serbs, Roma ('Gypsies') and others in Kosovo, see:
How will you plead at the trial, Mr.Annan? at
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/howwill.htm
Quotes United Nations documentation that terror and crime are
flourishing in
Kosovo under UN/NATO control.
Driven from Kosovo: Jewish Leader Blames NATO - An Interview With Cedda
Prlincevic at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/ceda.htm Mr.
Prlincevic has direct experience with NATO's complicty with KLA terror.
Gracko survivors blame NATO by Jared Israel at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/misc/grack.htm
This article reports the response of relatives and friends of the 14
farmers
slaughtered by KLA terrorists during NATO/UN control of Kosovo and shows
substantiates the charge that NATO is responsible for terrorism
throughout
the province.
If you find emperors-clothes.com useful, we can use your help...
All our expenses are covered by individual donations. We are (still)
behind
on phone bills (we use the phone for interviews and editorial meetings)
and
for Lexis, the wonderful Internet tool that we use to research articles.
Any
donation will help with these expenses and for special projects like
'JUDGMENT', the film we recently produced.
You can Order 'Judgment' now!
This movie shows precisely how images were created to demonize the
Bosnian
Serbs. Remember the 'emaciated man behind barbed wire'? Would you like
to
know the real story? Judgment shows step by step how these false images
were
created. That is, the phony death camp pictures are fabricated before
your
eyes.
We suggest a $25 donation for the JUDGMENT video inside the US ($26
outside
the US) including shipping - but send a donation of any amount and
request
the video and we'll send it to you. We want everyone to see the truth.
To order JUDGMENT send your donation to:
Emperor's Clothes
P.O. Box 610-321
Newton, MA 02461-0321
(Please specify how many films you are ordering.)
Or call (617) 916-1705
Or to make a credit card donation please click here for our secure sever
go
to http://www.emperors-clothes.com/howyour.htm. (Please email us at
emperors1000@... stating how many films you are ordering. Thanks.)
To browse articles from Emperors-Clothes.com, go to
http://www.emperors-clothes.com and scroll down the page
www.tenc.net [emperors-clothes]
===
ANCORA LORO! (POESIA E CONTRO-POESIA)
Subject: Re: Opet ONI
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:10:28 -0700
From: Bob Djurdjevic <bobdj@...>
To: TiM Readers <bulletins@...>
PHOENIX, ARIZONA - PRIVATNA KORESPONDENCIJA
Moj odgovor u prilogu (tekst plave boje) je bio upucen (i poslat) G-dinu
Djordju Konjikovicu koji
mi je ove svoje stihove (tekst crne boje) danas poslao iz Francuske.
Iako ja ovog gospodina licno
ne znam, na njegovoj .CC listi primecujem niz poznatih
globalista-mundijalaca, koji su takodje
dobili moj odgovor.
Bob Dj.
-----------------------
IZ PHOENIX, ARIZONE
Interesantni stihovi. Prigodan sarkazam.
Ali sta bi sa drugom stranom novcica? Gde su ONI drugi, ONI inostrani
koji Srbe tako
dusmanski vole?
Zato vam dole prilazem "ONI - Br. 2". Stihovi na srpskom mi nisu bas
specijalitet, ali izgleda
da ce misli ipak biti za vas novitet?
Bob Dj.
---------
At 01:58 AM 5/26/2000 +0200, djordje konjikovic wrote:
Opet ONI
Pre desetak godina kad Ideja bledi,
ONI se ne daju, menjaju odelo
objavljuju svima da reforma sledi
(i drzavi nasoj spremaju opelo)
Nove vam parole sa Zapada diriguju -
"sloboda narodu, smrt komunizmu!"
I dok Mujama, Ustasama ONI namiguju,
naivni Srbi nasedaju Njihovom cinizmu
Dok brzo i spretno povlace granice,
crtaju grbove, kuju novcanice,
viju nas u maglu i pamet nam sole :
svi drugi nas mrze a ONI nas vole
Apsolutno. Samo ONI vas "vole" sa nozem iza ledja, a vi Njih volite bez
ikakvih medja.
(Oni = Zapad = Novi Svetski Poredak (NSP) = NATO)
Dok po nama seju granate i vrevu,
putuju u Dejton, Pariz i Zenevu.
Mi crni u dimu, ONI banku drze
mi goli u zbegu, ONI grabe brze
Tacno. Jer ONI vas mrze iz dna duse, dok vi Njih slavite na klepetuse.
(ONI = Zapad = Novi Svetski Poredak = NATO)
Danas ONI opet pevaju nam ode
orni da nas dalje u buducnost vode
ONI sto su rusili, sada bi da grade
ONI sto su palili, hteli bi da kade
Da. ONI = Organi Novosvetskog Imperijalizma? Ili ONI = srpski poltrONI?
Ili ONI =
Koka-kolasi koji su vas prvo zasipali bombama, da bi vas sada rasipali
OTPOROM.
Korekcija... OTROVOM (bratoubilackog "oslobodjenja" Srbije od same
sebe).
Dok nam gase svetlost da u mraku love
i dok Trajan krije kozje usi svoje,
po carstvu se ore svirale od zove
kosovi se pare i pcele se roje
...dok se ONI goje; ni Boga se ne boje.
ONI-parcovi se pare i Kosovo zare.
Pozdrav pokretu OTPOR i studentima koji su kao stafetu mladosti
nosili pendrek
na kome ja pisalo "niko ne sme da vas bije"
Dj. Konjikovic (Nato placenik)
Molitve za spasenje dusa hiljada srpskih zrtava NSP demokratije! Molitve
za one prezivele
koje sada ONI sa Zapada truju OTPOROM.
Pozdrav americkim patriotima koje su pendreci NSP demokratije ucili
ulicnom bontonu u
Seattlu i Washingtonu.
"Sloboda narodu, smrt cinizmu!" (NATO/NSP vrste, naravno).
Bob Dj. (NATO cinik)
----
Bob Djurdjevic
TRUTH IN MEDIA
Phoenix, Arizona
e-mail: publisher@...
Visit the Truth in Media Web site http://www.truthinmedia.org/ for more
articles on geopolitical
affairs.
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