Subject: to the Guardian re the Dubrovnik Hoax: Christopher Hope
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:43:40 -0500
From: john_peter maher <jpmaher@...>
To: GUARDIANletters <letters@...>
26 June 2001
To The Editor
The Guardian
re Christopher Hope on Dubrovnik, again
Since 1991 the press has dozens of times printed the hoax that the Pearl
of the Adriatic was reduced to rubble. Those stories were fakes. Again
the Guardian's Christopher Hope revives the hoax. It really is dej� vu
all over again. The purpose is to whip up support for shipping more
Serbs off to the Hague.
On 25 March 1992 I visited Dubrovnik to see for myself the truth about
the war. The Old City of Dubrovnik was never destroyed. It was barely
scratched.
Captain Shuttleworth, an English officer of the EEC (now EU) and British
journalist Boris beloff have confirmed my assessment.So has Susan L
Woodward. 1995. Balkan Tragedy Chaos and Dissolution after the Cold War
Washington:
The Brookings Institution:
"An assault on Dubrovnik (beginning in early October), which was
protected under the UN Educational, Scientific, and Cultural
Organization (UNESCO), was particularly significant in creating
antagonism toward Serbia and the Army: the Croatian government had
calculated in using sharpshooters on the Dubrovnik walls to provoke a
YPA attack on the city, knowing that Dubrovnik would attract ?
attention."
Roof tiles blown off by concussion had all been replaced when I visited
the city THREE MONTHS after the ?destruction?.
Dubrovnik?s destruction was an invention of PR companies in the hire of
the war criminals who broke up Yugoslavia without negotiations. The big
bombardment was from PR fakers, not navy guns.-like the Kuwaiti
incubator babies hoax used by President Bush Ist in order to stoke up
war fever. PR liars Hill & Knowlton, Ruder Finn, and Waterman Associates
have earned millions in fanning the flames of this war.
The ?Serb-dominated federal navy? off Dubrovnik was commanded by Admiral
Stane Brovet, a Slovene. The target was not the Old City, but the
Napoleonic fort of St. Sergius far above Dubrovnik and hotels outside
the city walls, where Croatian forces were billeted and because of the
presence of refugees, had set up gun positions from which they fired on
the federal forces in order to provoke death and destruction. Zagreb?s
aim was to provoke a Western attack on the Serbs. On 5 December 1991,
Croatian forces mounted a mortar on a flat bed truck running up and down
the Stradun taking potshots at naval forces in order to provoke
counterfire.
The ?Dubrovnik burning? pictures were shot with long lenses. This
compresses perspective, making it look like there is no distance between
objects that are quite separated in real space. Thus, the columns of
smoke billowing up from the harbor and from modern hotels outside the
walls, where Croatian forces had used a gun positions to provoke naval
return fire. The production is a worthy successor to Hitchcocks? lady
showering in the film ?Psycho.?
That smoke was also from piles of tyres set alight by Croat
secessionists and from fuel tanks of two pleasure boats burning in the
Old Harbor outside, of course, the walls. Dubrovnik?s Old City never
burned. Bullet holes along Stradun were from gunfire inside the walls,
at ground level at close range in a fight on the street between rival
Croatian factions. Scaffolding was set up in front of facades in
anticipation of the shooting to come. Video tapes of gunfire along the
ancient walls, run backward, show clearly that the gun smoke is from
outgoing, not incoming fire.
My videotapes of Dubrovnik from 25 March 1992, have been aired on
Chicago Cable Access TV, Channel 19. Want to see them?
This war is the latest chapter in the predation of Orthodox lands by the
Western Church. (I?m RC, by the way.) The only building in the Old City
of Ragusa to be gutted by explosives and fire had housed a priceless
collection of medieval manuscripts and icons belonging to the Serb
Orthodox Church. It was not navy guns that did the damage, but plastique
and incendiary devices planted on the spot by Croatian fascist forces .
Ca 7,000 Croat refugees from Dubrovnik have taken refuge-in Belgrade.
Professor J. P. Maher
Chicago.
P. S.
A refugee from once independent Ragusa, now incorporated in Titoist, now
fascist Croatia, has written me:
I hope people will at last learn the truth about Dubrovnik. Reporters
should discuss with some of us who have been driven out of Dubrovnik
what happened inside Dubrovnik during the war?
.
Audiatur et altera pars; Let the other side be heard.
It began with Dubrovnikers being fired from their jobs and chased
from the city -- both Serbs and Croats, who did not embrace the
neofascism of Susak and Tudjman.
The first victims killed in the war were two Serbs, one the noted
writer, poet and humanist Milan Milisic, and the other a nurse, whose
brother in law was a commander in Tudjman?s navy, Herr Kommandant Sinisa
Tkalec (who was killed in battle).
These fascists then drove out all Serb intellectuals, lawyers,
judges, doctors, and anyone else who desired the restoration of the old
Free and Independent Republic of Dubrovnik. Members of the convention
held for that purpose in the city of Cavtat (south of Dubrovnik) were
given long prison sentences. The sentence handed out to Alessandro
Apollonio, an Italian, was 15 years prison. Ivo Lang, a Croat from
Cavtat, was sentenced to 12 years. Both, in advanced age, are lucky to
be alive in Serbia. The committee for the restoration of free Dubrovnik
carried on its work from Belgrade, publishing several numbers of the
paper ?Dubrovnik Republic?; But for lack of funds and being cut off from
Dubrovnik, the committee has practically ceased to function.
Even today, to speak of autonomy for Dubrovnik is a criminal act
under the laws of Croatia, unless the one to speak about it is, until
very recently, a fierce Tudjmanite and passionate Ustasha, Ivica Ban, a
finance lawyer.
In the suburb of Mokosica you can find the spot where several Serbs were
burned alive during the withdrawal of the Yugoslav Army from Dubrovnik,
which was negotiated by Cosic and Tudjman. Their burnt out car can still
be seen there.
It would still be possible to visit individuals from the families
killed during the ?transition? of power. Details about them are known,
but it is dangerous to make them public.
Maybe BBC could visit the hundreds of Dubrovnik villas now
inhabited by Liberators from Herzegovina. They are all from the Ustasha
towns of Listica, Duvno, Livno, Imotsko etc. The owners of these houses
are Serbs who in no way can return to their possessions.
Maybe BBC could interview the Catholic families whose sons were
sacrificed in the truce engineered in order to get Tudjman?s
recognition. ?
By all means interview Stipe Mesic about the [big PR] convoy of
the ship LIBERTAS, which which landed armed men in Dubrovnik, Croatia's
equivalent of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Also ask Mesic to apologize for active participation as the
criminal Tudjman?s close collaborator in the ethnic cleansing of Serb
Dubrovnikers as well as for the numerous crimes against Dubrovnikers
committed by the various Croatian paramilitary units then active. Their
victims include both Serbs and Croats.
For example, the most typical crime was Mercep?s murder of police chief
Miljenko Bratos [Croat] and the murder of [the Croat] Josip Kir-Rajhl in
Borovo Selo [close to Vukovar]
Guardian "journalists" are eagerly awaited by the Dubrovnikers expelled,
ethnically cleansed, after 750 years of peace. ...
Cordially,
(signed) N. N., a citizen of Dubrovnik, writing from exile in
Australia
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:43:40 -0500
From: john_peter maher <jpmaher@...>
To: GUARDIANletters <letters@...>
26 June 2001
To The Editor
The Guardian
re Christopher Hope on Dubrovnik, again
Since 1991 the press has dozens of times printed the hoax that the Pearl
of the Adriatic was reduced to rubble. Those stories were fakes. Again
the Guardian's Christopher Hope revives the hoax. It really is dej� vu
all over again. The purpose is to whip up support for shipping more
Serbs off to the Hague.
On 25 March 1992 I visited Dubrovnik to see for myself the truth about
the war. The Old City of Dubrovnik was never destroyed. It was barely
scratched.
Captain Shuttleworth, an English officer of the EEC (now EU) and British
journalist Boris beloff have confirmed my assessment.So has Susan L
Woodward. 1995. Balkan Tragedy Chaos and Dissolution after the Cold War
Washington:
The Brookings Institution:
"An assault on Dubrovnik (beginning in early October), which was
protected under the UN Educational, Scientific, and Cultural
Organization (UNESCO), was particularly significant in creating
antagonism toward Serbia and the Army: the Croatian government had
calculated in using sharpshooters on the Dubrovnik walls to provoke a
YPA attack on the city, knowing that Dubrovnik would attract ?
attention."
Roof tiles blown off by concussion had all been replaced when I visited
the city THREE MONTHS after the ?destruction?.
Dubrovnik?s destruction was an invention of PR companies in the hire of
the war criminals who broke up Yugoslavia without negotiations. The big
bombardment was from PR fakers, not navy guns.-like the Kuwaiti
incubator babies hoax used by President Bush Ist in order to stoke up
war fever. PR liars Hill & Knowlton, Ruder Finn, and Waterman Associates
have earned millions in fanning the flames of this war.
The ?Serb-dominated federal navy? off Dubrovnik was commanded by Admiral
Stane Brovet, a Slovene. The target was not the Old City, but the
Napoleonic fort of St. Sergius far above Dubrovnik and hotels outside
the city walls, where Croatian forces were billeted and because of the
presence of refugees, had set up gun positions from which they fired on
the federal forces in order to provoke death and destruction. Zagreb?s
aim was to provoke a Western attack on the Serbs. On 5 December 1991,
Croatian forces mounted a mortar on a flat bed truck running up and down
the Stradun taking potshots at naval forces in order to provoke
counterfire.
The ?Dubrovnik burning? pictures were shot with long lenses. This
compresses perspective, making it look like there is no distance between
objects that are quite separated in real space. Thus, the columns of
smoke billowing up from the harbor and from modern hotels outside the
walls, where Croatian forces had used a gun positions to provoke naval
return fire. The production is a worthy successor to Hitchcocks? lady
showering in the film ?Psycho.?
That smoke was also from piles of tyres set alight by Croat
secessionists and from fuel tanks of two pleasure boats burning in the
Old Harbor outside, of course, the walls. Dubrovnik?s Old City never
burned. Bullet holes along Stradun were from gunfire inside the walls,
at ground level at close range in a fight on the street between rival
Croatian factions. Scaffolding was set up in front of facades in
anticipation of the shooting to come. Video tapes of gunfire along the
ancient walls, run backward, show clearly that the gun smoke is from
outgoing, not incoming fire.
My videotapes of Dubrovnik from 25 March 1992, have been aired on
Chicago Cable Access TV, Channel 19. Want to see them?
This war is the latest chapter in the predation of Orthodox lands by the
Western Church. (I?m RC, by the way.) The only building in the Old City
of Ragusa to be gutted by explosives and fire had housed a priceless
collection of medieval manuscripts and icons belonging to the Serb
Orthodox Church. It was not navy guns that did the damage, but plastique
and incendiary devices planted on the spot by Croatian fascist forces .
Ca 7,000 Croat refugees from Dubrovnik have taken refuge-in Belgrade.
Professor J. P. Maher
Chicago.
P. S.
A refugee from once independent Ragusa, now incorporated in Titoist, now
fascist Croatia, has written me:
I hope people will at last learn the truth about Dubrovnik. Reporters
should discuss with some of us who have been driven out of Dubrovnik
what happened inside Dubrovnik during the war?
.
Audiatur et altera pars; Let the other side be heard.
It began with Dubrovnikers being fired from their jobs and chased
from the city -- both Serbs and Croats, who did not embrace the
neofascism of Susak and Tudjman.
The first victims killed in the war were two Serbs, one the noted
writer, poet and humanist Milan Milisic, and the other a nurse, whose
brother in law was a commander in Tudjman?s navy, Herr Kommandant Sinisa
Tkalec (who was killed in battle).
These fascists then drove out all Serb intellectuals, lawyers,
judges, doctors, and anyone else who desired the restoration of the old
Free and Independent Republic of Dubrovnik. Members of the convention
held for that purpose in the city of Cavtat (south of Dubrovnik) were
given long prison sentences. The sentence handed out to Alessandro
Apollonio, an Italian, was 15 years prison. Ivo Lang, a Croat from
Cavtat, was sentenced to 12 years. Both, in advanced age, are lucky to
be alive in Serbia. The committee for the restoration of free Dubrovnik
carried on its work from Belgrade, publishing several numbers of the
paper ?Dubrovnik Republic?; But for lack of funds and being cut off from
Dubrovnik, the committee has practically ceased to function.
Even today, to speak of autonomy for Dubrovnik is a criminal act
under the laws of Croatia, unless the one to speak about it is, until
very recently, a fierce Tudjmanite and passionate Ustasha, Ivica Ban, a
finance lawyer.
In the suburb of Mokosica you can find the spot where several Serbs were
burned alive during the withdrawal of the Yugoslav Army from Dubrovnik,
which was negotiated by Cosic and Tudjman. Their burnt out car can still
be seen there.
It would still be possible to visit individuals from the families
killed during the ?transition? of power. Details about them are known,
but it is dangerous to make them public.
Maybe BBC could visit the hundreds of Dubrovnik villas now
inhabited by Liberators from Herzegovina. They are all from the Ustasha
towns of Listica, Duvno, Livno, Imotsko etc. The owners of these houses
are Serbs who in no way can return to their possessions.
Maybe BBC could interview the Catholic families whose sons were
sacrificed in the truce engineered in order to get Tudjman?s
recognition. ?
By all means interview Stipe Mesic about the [big PR] convoy of
the ship LIBERTAS, which which landed armed men in Dubrovnik, Croatia's
equivalent of Hitler's Brown Shirts.
Also ask Mesic to apologize for active participation as the
criminal Tudjman?s close collaborator in the ethnic cleansing of Serb
Dubrovnikers as well as for the numerous crimes against Dubrovnikers
committed by the various Croatian paramilitary units then active. Their
victims include both Serbs and Croats.
For example, the most typical crime was Mercep?s murder of police chief
Miljenko Bratos [Croat] and the murder of [the Croat] Josip Kir-Rajhl in
Borovo Selo [close to Vukovar]
Guardian "journalists" are eagerly awaited by the Dubrovnikers expelled,
ethnically cleansed, after 750 years of peace. ...
Cordially,
(signed) N. N., a citizen of Dubrovnik, writing from exile in
Australia
---
Questa lista e' provvisoriamente curata da componenti della
ASSEMBLEA ANTIMPERIALISTA (ex Coord. Naz. "La Jugoslavia Vivra'"):
> http://www.tuttinlotta.org
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