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> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
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On December 11th, Slobodan Milosevic appeared and spoke before the
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Serbs to attack Muslims. But few Westerners have actually read his
words. That's a shame, because his words flatly disprove the charge...
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
The Words of Milosevic:
List of Interviews, Articles, and Speeches by Slobodan Milosevic
> http://www.icdsm.org/milosevic/milowords.htm
a chi fosse in grado di citare testualmente una frase razzista
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$500 REWARD IF YOU CAN PRODUCE A RACIST QUOTE FROM MILOSEVIC
On December 11th, Slobodan Milosevic appeared and spoke before the
so-called War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague. The Western mass media has
repeatedly told us that Milosevic is a racist whose speeches whipped up
Serbs to attack Muslims. But few Westerners have actually read his
words. That's a shame, because his words flatly disprove the charge...
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
The Words of Milosevic:
List of Interviews, Articles, and Speeches by Slobodan Milosevic
> http://www.icdsm.org/milosevic/milowords.htm
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Official Statements Prove Hague 'Tribunal'
Belongs to NATO
by Jared Israel
[Originally posted 30 June 2001]
[Updated and expanded 7 January 2002]
=============================================
Of course you've heard of the ICTY, also
known as The Hague 'War Crimes
Tribunal.' That's the outfit that kidnaps
Serbian leaders (including
Slobodan Milosevic) and puts them on 'trial.'
Did you think the ICTY was a
fair-minded UN court, free to indict anyone
charged with crimes in
Yugoslavia, regardless of nationality?
Think again.
Exhibit A: Press Conference by NATO spokesman
Jamie Shea. Took place May 17,
1999, that is, during the NATO aggression
against Yugoslavia.
"QUESTION: Jamie, I wonder if you could
comment on a speech made by Justice
Arbour of the International Criminal Tribunal
last week, a copy of which I
left with your very fine secretary so that
you would have reference to it.
Judge Arbour in her speech said that as a
result of the NATO initiatives
being initiated on 24 March the countries of
NATO have "voluntarily
submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of
her court whose mandate applies
to the theatre of the chosen military
operation and whose reach is
unqualified by nationality and whose
investigations are triggered at the
sole discretion of the prosecutor who has
primacy over national courts."
Does NATO recognise Judge Arbour's
jurisdiction over their activities?
"JAMIE SHEA: First of all, my understanding
of the UN resolution that
established the Court is that it applies to
the former Yugoslavia, it is for
war crimes committed on the territory of the
former Yugoslavia.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] Secondly, I think we have
to distinguish between the
theoretical and the practical. I believe that
when Justice Arbour starts her
investigation, she will because we will allow
her to. It's not Milosevic
that has allowed Justice Arbour her visa to
go to Kosovo to carry out her
investigations. If her court, as we want, is
to be allowed access, it will
be because of NATO so NATO is the friend of
the Tribunal, NATO are the
people who have been detaining indicted war
criminals for the Tribunal in
Bosnia. We have done it, 14 arrests so far by
SFOR, and we will continue to do it.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] NATO countries are those
that have provided the finance to
set up the Tribunal, we are amongst the
majority financiers, and of course
to build a second chamber so that
prosecutions can be speeded up so let me
assure that we and the Tribunal are all one
on this, we want to see war
criminals brought to justice and I am certain
that when Justice Arbour goes
to Kosovo and looks at the facts she will be
indicting people of Yugoslav
nationality and I don't anticipate any others
at this stage."
[Our Emphasis. May 17, 1999 Transcript of
NATO press conference by Jamie
Shea & Major General W. Jertz in Brussels
Transcribed by M2 PRESSWIRE (c)
1999. To see the excerpt above in context of
the full transcript, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/jertzback.htm#h-list_quote
]
=============================================
Washington Created It; NATO Makes It Possible
=============================================
Did you think critics were indulging in
hyperbole when they said Madeline
Albright was "Mother of the Tribunal"?
EXHIBIT B: Excerpts from speech by Gabrielle
Kirk McDonald, President of the
Hague Tribunal, at her award ceremony at the
American Supreme Court on April
5, 1999.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]I am also pleased
to be here tonight as a guest
of the Coalition for International Justice,
which was founded in 1995 with
assistance from CEELI and the Open Society
Institute. The Coalition has been
a great source of support to the Tribunal.
CIJ jumped in early and has
stayed involved ever since. From running a
workshop to assist the defense
counsel in the very first trial, through
seminars for the judges...
(context)
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]Without the
co-operation of the states and
entities in the former Yugoslavia and the
international community as a
whole, the Tribunal had no way of bringing
even a single accused to trial.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Continues:]Nevertheless, we persevered and
did what we could to build the institution. We
benefited from the strong support
of concerned governments and dedicated
individuals such as Secretary
Albright. As the permanent representative to
the United Nations, she had
worked with unceasing resolve to establish
the Tribunal. Indeed, we often
refer to her as the "mother of the Tribunal".
And I am proud of what we have
accomplished. After those first years of
struggling to simply establish the
court, we have now really gotten on with the
substance of our mandate."
(context)
(From
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.05.html
to see the quotations in context of the full
Speech, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote1
and
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote2
)
Emperor's Clothes Note: The Open Society
Institute, which Ms. McDonald found
so helpful, is George Soros' outfit. Soros
acts as a kind of high-profit
wing of the CIA. On the one hand, he is a
ruthless currency-pirate (that is
polite), implicated in savaging the Thai
economy, which launched the great
Asian crash. On the other hand, his
foundation sets up and funds front
groups throughout the former Socialist
countries and elsewhere as beachheads
for U.S. penetration.
In his testimony at the July, 1999 hearing on
overthrowing democracy in
Yugoslavia, Special Yugoslav Envoy Gelbard
spoke of the Open Society
Foundation as a great help in carrying out
Imperial penetration. CELLI
appears to be part of a group of governmental
and semi-governmental
organizations which work together to develop
Fifth Column organizations in
countries targeted by the U.S. Empire. One of
the main coordinators of this
apparatus is a CIA spin-off, the National
Endowment for Democracy, about
which see:
'US Arrogance And Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm#z
and
'Eviscerating Democracy' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/szamuely/neda2.htm
=============================================
Washington Finances It
=============================================
Did you think this "United Nations" War
Crimes Tribunal was funded by the
United Nations?
Exhibit C: The Tribunal Thanks Washington for
Donating the Money to Do
Washington's Propaganda Work
"Press Release · Communiqué de presse
(Exclusively for the use of the media. Not an
official document)
The Hague, 19 April 1999
JL/PIU/397-E
"THE UNITED STATES PLEDGE USD 500,000 TO
"TRIBUNAL’S OUTREACH PROJECT
"PRESIDENT McDONALD GRATEFUL FOR GENEROUS
CONTRIBUTION
"On behalf of the International Criminal
Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia,
the President of the Tribunal, Judge
Gabrielle Kirk McDonald, has expressed
her deep appreciation to the U.S. Government
for its pledge of USD 500,000
for the Tribunal’s Outreach project.
Harold Koh, the US Assistant Secretary
of State for Democracy, Human Rights and
Labour, announced the donation at a
press briefing at the Tribunal on Friday 16
April 1999.
"This generous contribution, which makes up
over a third of the total
Outreach budget, will, as Assistant Secretary
of State Harold Koh noted
'allow the Tribunal to carry its message of
impartial justice not only to
governments and legal practitioners in the
former Yugoslavia, but, most of
all, to the families of victims.'
"The President urges other countries and
organisations to support this vital
project, which is aimed at bridging the
communications gap between the
Tribunal and the people of the former
Yugoslavia and helping in the
international community’s overall
reconciliation effort."
(From:
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.19.html
)
EMPEROR'S CLOTHES URGENTLY NEEDS YOUR HELP!
[See Below]
=============================================
Some Useful Articles on the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former
Yugoslavia
=============================================
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the
distinguished philosopher and social-legal
analyst associated with the
United Nations examines the Tribunal and does
not like what he finds. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* The big so-called case before NATO's
so-called Tribunal is that of former
Yugoslav President Milosevic. For a decade he
has been on trial in the
Western media, convicted daily of doing - and
saying - terrible things. It's
easy enough to discover that the media
reports of Milosevic's views and
statements are lies. Go to www.icdsm.org
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations.
Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished Yugoslav
legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje
Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa
Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals
with the torture and physical destruction of
Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski
describes the practices of the Tribunal,
which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees.
***
=======================================
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Official Statements Prove Hague 'Tribunal'
Belongs to NATO
by Jared Israel
[Originally posted 30 June 2001]
[Updated and expanded 7 January 2002]
=============================================
Of course you've heard of the ICTY, also
known as The Hague 'War Crimes
Tribunal.' That's the outfit that kidnaps
Serbian leaders (including
Slobodan Milosevic) and puts them on 'trial.'
Did you think the ICTY was a
fair-minded UN court, free to indict anyone
charged with crimes in
Yugoslavia, regardless of nationality?
Think again.
Exhibit A: Press Conference by NATO spokesman
Jamie Shea. Took place May 17,
1999, that is, during the NATO aggression
against Yugoslavia.
"QUESTION: Jamie, I wonder if you could
comment on a speech made by Justice
Arbour of the International Criminal Tribunal
last week, a copy of which I
left with your very fine secretary so that
you would have reference to it.
Judge Arbour in her speech said that as a
result of the NATO initiatives
being initiated on 24 March the countries of
NATO have "voluntarily
submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of
her court whose mandate applies
to the theatre of the chosen military
operation and whose reach is
unqualified by nationality and whose
investigations are triggered at the
sole discretion of the prosecutor who has
primacy over national courts."
Does NATO recognise Judge Arbour's
jurisdiction over their activities?
"JAMIE SHEA: First of all, my understanding
of the UN resolution that
established the Court is that it applies to
the former Yugoslavia, it is for
war crimes committed on the territory of the
former Yugoslavia.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] Secondly, I think we have
to distinguish between the
theoretical and the practical. I believe that
when Justice Arbour starts her
investigation, she will because we will allow
her to. It's not Milosevic
that has allowed Justice Arbour her visa to
go to Kosovo to carry out her
investigations. If her court, as we want, is
to be allowed access, it will
be because of NATO so NATO is the friend of
the Tribunal, NATO are the
people who have been detaining indicted war
criminals for the Tribunal in
Bosnia. We have done it, 14 arrests so far by
SFOR, and we will continue to do it.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] NATO countries are those
that have provided the finance to
set up the Tribunal, we are amongst the
majority financiers, and of course
to build a second chamber so that
prosecutions can be speeded up so let me
assure that we and the Tribunal are all one
on this, we want to see war
criminals brought to justice and I am certain
that when Justice Arbour goes
to Kosovo and looks at the facts she will be
indicting people of Yugoslav
nationality and I don't anticipate any others
at this stage."
[Our Emphasis. May 17, 1999 Transcript of
NATO press conference by Jamie
Shea & Major General W. Jertz in Brussels
Transcribed by M2 PRESSWIRE (c)
1999. To see the excerpt above in context of
the full transcript, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/jertzback.htm#h-list_quote
]
=============================================
Washington Created It; NATO Makes It Possible
=============================================
Did you think critics were indulging in
hyperbole when they said Madeline
Albright was "Mother of the Tribunal"?
EXHIBIT B: Excerpts from speech by Gabrielle
Kirk McDonald, President of the
Hague Tribunal, at her award ceremony at the
American Supreme Court on April
5, 1999.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]I am also pleased
to be here tonight as a guest
of the Coalition for International Justice,
which was founded in 1995 with
assistance from CEELI and the Open Society
Institute. The Coalition has been
a great source of support to the Tribunal.
CIJ jumped in early and has
stayed involved ever since. From running a
workshop to assist the defense
counsel in the very first trial, through
seminars for the judges...
(context)
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]Without the
co-operation of the states and
entities in the former Yugoslavia and the
international community as a
whole, the Tribunal had no way of bringing
even a single accused to trial.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Continues:]Nevertheless, we persevered and
did what we could to build the institution. We
benefited from the strong support
of concerned governments and dedicated
individuals such as Secretary
Albright. As the permanent representative to
the United Nations, she had
worked with unceasing resolve to establish
the Tribunal. Indeed, we often
refer to her as the "mother of the Tribunal".
And I am proud of what we have
accomplished. After those first years of
struggling to simply establish the
court, we have now really gotten on with the
substance of our mandate."
(context)
(From
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.05.html
to see the quotations in context of the full
Speech, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote1
and
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote2
)
Emperor's Clothes Note: The Open Society
Institute, which Ms. McDonald found
so helpful, is George Soros' outfit. Soros
acts as a kind of high-profit
wing of the CIA. On the one hand, he is a
ruthless currency-pirate (that is
polite), implicated in savaging the Thai
economy, which launched the great
Asian crash. On the other hand, his
foundation sets up and funds front
groups throughout the former Socialist
countries and elsewhere as beachheads
for U.S. penetration.
In his testimony at the July, 1999 hearing on
overthrowing democracy in
Yugoslavia, Special Yugoslav Envoy Gelbard
spoke of the Open Society
Foundation as a great help in carrying out
Imperial penetration. CELLI
appears to be part of a group of governmental
and semi-governmental
organizations which work together to develop
Fifth Column organizations in
countries targeted by the U.S. Empire. One of
the main coordinators of this
apparatus is a CIA spin-off, the National
Endowment for Democracy, about
which see:
'US Arrogance And Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm#z
and
'Eviscerating Democracy' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/szamuely/neda2.htm
=============================================
Washington Finances It
=============================================
Did you think this "United Nations" War
Crimes Tribunal was funded by the
United Nations?
Exhibit C: The Tribunal Thanks Washington for
Donating the Money to Do
Washington's Propaganda Work
"Press Release · Communiqué de presse
(Exclusively for the use of the media. Not an
official document)
The Hague, 19 April 1999
JL/PIU/397-E
"THE UNITED STATES PLEDGE USD 500,000 TO
"TRIBUNAL’S OUTREACH PROJECT
"PRESIDENT McDONALD GRATEFUL FOR GENEROUS
CONTRIBUTION
"On behalf of the International Criminal
Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia,
the President of the Tribunal, Judge
Gabrielle Kirk McDonald, has expressed
her deep appreciation to the U.S. Government
for its pledge of USD 500,000
for the Tribunal’s Outreach project.
Harold Koh, the US Assistant Secretary
of State for Democracy, Human Rights and
Labour, announced the donation at a
press briefing at the Tribunal on Friday 16
April 1999.
"This generous contribution, which makes up
over a third of the total
Outreach budget, will, as Assistant Secretary
of State Harold Koh noted
'allow the Tribunal to carry its message of
impartial justice not only to
governments and legal practitioners in the
former Yugoslavia, but, most of
all, to the families of victims.'
"The President urges other countries and
organisations to support this vital
project, which is aimed at bridging the
communications gap between the
Tribunal and the people of the former
Yugoslavia and helping in the
international community’s overall
reconciliation effort."
(From:
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.19.html
)
EMPEROR'S CLOTHES URGENTLY NEEDS YOUR HELP!
[See Below]
=============================================
Some Useful Articles on the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former
Yugoslavia
=============================================
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the
distinguished philosopher and social-legal
analyst associated with the
United Nations examines the Tribunal and does
not like what he finds. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* The big so-called case before NATO's
so-called Tribunal is that of former
Yugoslav President Milosevic. For a decade he
has been on trial in the
Western media, convicted daily of doing - and
saying - terrible things. It's
easy enough to discover that the media
reports of Milosevic's views and
statements are lies. Go to www.icdsm.org
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations.
Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished Yugoslav
legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje
Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa
Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals
with the torture and physical destruction of
Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski
describes the practices of the Tribunal,
which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees.
***
=======================================
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1. LE PROTESTE DEI BANCARI LICENZIATI: DUE MORTI
2. INTERVISTA A SMILJA AVRAMOV: "L'OCCIDENTE VUOLE IMPEDIRE
CHE SI RIGENERI UNA BORGHESIA NAZIONALE IN SERBIA"
===*===
Serbia: proteste dei bancari licenziati
Belgrado, 9 gennaio 2002. Da cinque giorni sono in mobilitazione
gli impiegati delle quattro maggiori banche jugoslave, che il governo
ultraliberale di Djindjic ha chiuso su imposizione del FMI e della
BM. I manifestanti hanno bloccato il traffico stradale in vari punti
del centro cittadino. Notizie di proteste giungono anche da Novi Sad,
Cacak, Lazarevac ed altre citta' serbe.
Il governo ha elargito agli 8500 dipendenti licenziati, una-tantum,
la somma di 600mila euro come "buonuscita" - vale a dire circa 80 euro
a persona. Il sindacato della Beobanka ha comunicato oggi che due
dei lavoratori licenziati sono morti nei giorni scorsi per lo stress.
La polizia sorveglia ora varie filiali di Belgrado per impedire ai
dipendenti di accedervi.
+++ Serbien: Proteste der entlassenen Bankangestellten +++
BELGRAD, 9. Januar 2002. Seit fünf Tagen protestieren
Beschäftigte von vier größten jugoslawischen Banken, die die
ultraliberale Djindjic-Regierung auf Forderungen des
Internationalen Währungsfonds und der Weltbank zerschlagen hat.
In Belgrad blockierten Protestierende Straßenverkehr in mehreren
Straßen der Innenstadt. Auch aus Novi Sad, Cacak, Lazarevac und
anderen serbischen Städten wurden Proteste gemeldet.
Die Regierung zahlte einmalig insgesamt 600.000 Euro an 8.500
entlassene Bankbeschäftigte als "Abfindung", also
durchschnittlich ca. 80 Euro pro Person.
Die Gewerkschaft der Beobanka hat heute mitgeteilt, daß zwei
entlassene Beschäftigte in den letzten Tagen an Folgen vom Stress
starben.
Die Polizei bewacht nun mehrere Bankfilialen in Belgrad und
hindert die Bechäftigten daran, ihre Räume zu betreten.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
===*===
Intervista a Smilja Avramov
Quella che segue e' la trascrizione di una intervista telefonica
a Smilja Avramov, professoressa di diritto internazionale alla
Universita' di Belgrado, effettuata a cura della redazione di
"Voce Jugoslava" su Radio Citta' Aperta (http://www.radiocittaperta.it).
Smilja Avramov e' stata membro di commissioni in negoziati
internazionali ed e' autrice di molti saggi, tra i quali gli ultimi
due "Post-herojski rat Zapada protiv Jugoslavije" (La guerra post-eroica
dell'Occidente contro la Jugoslavia) e "Opus Dei".
L'abbiamo contattata il 7/1/2002 prendendo spunto dell'articolo
apparso lo stesso giorno sul quotidiano di Roma "Il Messaggero",
intitolato: "Jugoslavia, crack della Beograd Bank: Milosevic
incriminato per fallimento" (sic).
D : Professoressa, a che pro questa incriminazione di Milosevic?
Cosa c'e' dietro questo recente fallimento della Beobanka?
R : Come sappiamo tutti benissimo, a noi furono imposte le sanzioni...
Abbiamo ottenuto crediti da un fondo capitali che non era controllato.
Questo fondo capitali ci e' stato imposto. La Jugoslavia e' stata
costretta ad indebitarsi fortemente da vari centri finanziari che
cosi' riciclavano i loro capitali, e non tanto perche' avesse bisogno
di questi crediti. Ecco da dove viene il doppio gioco. Questo e' cio'
che ha ereditato Milosevic non appena e' arrivato al potere. Questa e'
una parte del problema. L'altra parte e' ben nota: al tempo delle
sanzioni si poteva commerciare [con l'estero] solamente alla borsa
nera. Anche le medicine si acquistavano alla borsa nera, anche la
nafta e gli altri prodotti si acquistavano cosi'. Pertanto, una
economia grigia, illegale, si e' generata sotto la pressione delle
sanzioni, e dunque credo che in una situazione del genere... Io non
difendo Milosevic, che ha sicuramente fatto i suoi errori per i quali
dovrebbe rispondere, ma non dinanzi al Tribunale dell'Aia bensi'
dinanzi al suo popolo, qui. Non si puo' attribuire tutta la
responsabilita' ad sola una persona in una situazione cosi'
complicata, come quella in cui si e' trovata la Jugoslavia. Sapete,
questa maniera di semplificare attribuendo la responsabilita' ad
una sola persona e' in effetti un modo per nascondere i retroscena
di un complesso, e direi sporco, gioco diplomatico. In che misura
sia responsabile Milosevic per il fallimento della Beobanka,
in che misura sia questo il risultato delle sanzioni che l'Occidente
ci ha imposto arbitrariamente, in che misura sia questo il risultato
di una economia grigia, questo e' qualcosa che dovrebbero stabilire
gli esperti di finanza, ma io penso che sia infantile, che sia
veramente un gioco evidente e sciocco addossare la colpa ad una
persona soltanto.
D : Dietro a questo fallimento non si nasconde forse una svendita
al capitale straniero?
R : In effetti non si tratta solamente della Beobanka, si tratta
della liquidazione di quattro grande banche nazionali e allo stesso
tempo si lascia che entri il capitale straniero e che in Jugoslavia
aprano filiali di banche straniere. Ma c'e' ancora un'altra cosa che
bisogna tenere in considerazione. E' stata emanata una legge sulla
privatizzazione, ma non e' stata emanata alcuna legge per la
de-nazionalizzazione, cosi' che si tratta di una doppia rapina ed
ancora di un gioco dietro le quinte. Cioe', con la privatizzazione
essi privatizzano qualcosa che non appartiene loro! Perche' questo
capitale non si restituisce ai vecchi proprietari, che sono ancora
vivi ed esistono? [Si riferisce, in generale e non relativamente al
caso specifico delle banche, alla borghesia di prima della seconda
guerra mondiale, ndT] Pero' non e' una decisione presa solo qui, e'
una decisione dei centri di potere in Occidente, che ritengono che
non si debba de-nazionalizzare, affinche' non si crei un capitalismo
nazionale, una elite nazionale, bensi' affinche' tutto questo venga
inserito nella globalizzazione del mercato, del capitale e
naturalmente delle compagnie multinazionali straniere. E questo negli
USA e nel G7.
D : Lei ha partecipato a una tavola rotonda alla TV di Zagabria
nel 1990: si parlava della possibilita' di creare una confederazione
jugoslava. Mi puo' ripetere a quali condizioni si puo' formare una
confederazione... e se adesso, a suo avviso, le ex-repubbliche
jugoslave si potrebbero confederare ?
R : Si', e' vero. In quel periodo, quando si discuteva della
trasformazione della federazione in confederazione, in realta' cio'
era contrario alle tendenze generali in atto in Europa. Noi avremmo
potuto facilmente entrare a far parte dell'Unione Europea. E' stato
un grande errore non realizzarlo, un errore di cui sono responsabili
indistintamente anche tutti i nostri leader politici del tempo da
Ljubljana a Skopje. La trasformazione della federazione in una
confederazione - in cui si sarebbero tracciate frontiere, barriere
innalzate a bella posta, commerciali, per il passaggio delle merci,
delle persone, del capitale - era inconciliabile con le tendenze
europee [che volevano lo smembramento del paese, ndT]. Oggi credo
che tutte le repubbliche dell'ex-Jugoslavia, che oggi sono diventate
"indipendenti", sono incapaci di condurre una vita autonoma. Ora
tutti comprendono che cio' e' stato un grande errore, ma e' troppo
tardi. Si e' arrivati a un punto di rottura, di inimicizia, di
lacerazioni dolorose, per cui in questo momento non sarebbe
possibile, anche psicologicamente, che il popolo accetti l'idea
di una confederazione. Sa, quando oggi si fa il nome di... perche'
molta gente e' morta, le famiglie sono molto addolorate, e quando
si fa il nome di una comunita' alla gente gli si drizzano i capelli
in testa. E' per questo che ritengo che le condizioni politiche non
siano mature, per poter pensare a un progetto simile. Per cio' e'
necessario che si rimargino le ferite aperte e ci vorranno due o
tre generazioni perche' cio' avvenga . Quel che dobbiamo certamente
fare e' volgerci verso l'Europa, creare dei canali di comunicazione
con l'Europa. Solo in questa prospettiva piu' ampia si potra'
parlare di una possibile cooperazione anche in questo momento, perche'
tra le sole repubbliche ex-jugoslave cio' e' impossibile.
2. INTERVISTA A SMILJA AVRAMOV: "L'OCCIDENTE VUOLE IMPEDIRE
CHE SI RIGENERI UNA BORGHESIA NAZIONALE IN SERBIA"
===*===
Serbia: proteste dei bancari licenziati
Belgrado, 9 gennaio 2002. Da cinque giorni sono in mobilitazione
gli impiegati delle quattro maggiori banche jugoslave, che il governo
ultraliberale di Djindjic ha chiuso su imposizione del FMI e della
BM. I manifestanti hanno bloccato il traffico stradale in vari punti
del centro cittadino. Notizie di proteste giungono anche da Novi Sad,
Cacak, Lazarevac ed altre citta' serbe.
Il governo ha elargito agli 8500 dipendenti licenziati, una-tantum,
la somma di 600mila euro come "buonuscita" - vale a dire circa 80 euro
a persona. Il sindacato della Beobanka ha comunicato oggi che due
dei lavoratori licenziati sono morti nei giorni scorsi per lo stress.
La polizia sorveglia ora varie filiali di Belgrado per impedire ai
dipendenti di accedervi.
+++ Serbien: Proteste der entlassenen Bankangestellten +++
BELGRAD, 9. Januar 2002. Seit fünf Tagen protestieren
Beschäftigte von vier größten jugoslawischen Banken, die die
ultraliberale Djindjic-Regierung auf Forderungen des
Internationalen Währungsfonds und der Weltbank zerschlagen hat.
In Belgrad blockierten Protestierende Straßenverkehr in mehreren
Straßen der Innenstadt. Auch aus Novi Sad, Cacak, Lazarevac und
anderen serbischen Städten wurden Proteste gemeldet.
Die Regierung zahlte einmalig insgesamt 600.000 Euro an 8.500
entlassene Bankbeschäftigte als "Abfindung", also
durchschnittlich ca. 80 Euro pro Person.
Die Gewerkschaft der Beobanka hat heute mitgeteilt, daß zwei
entlassene Beschäftigte in den letzten Tagen an Folgen vom Stress
starben.
Die Polizei bewacht nun mehrere Bankfilialen in Belgrad und
hindert die Bechäftigten daran, ihre Räume zu betreten.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
===*===
Intervista a Smilja Avramov
Quella che segue e' la trascrizione di una intervista telefonica
a Smilja Avramov, professoressa di diritto internazionale alla
Universita' di Belgrado, effettuata a cura della redazione di
"Voce Jugoslava" su Radio Citta' Aperta (http://www.radiocittaperta.it).
Smilja Avramov e' stata membro di commissioni in negoziati
internazionali ed e' autrice di molti saggi, tra i quali gli ultimi
due "Post-herojski rat Zapada protiv Jugoslavije" (La guerra post-eroica
dell'Occidente contro la Jugoslavia) e "Opus Dei".
L'abbiamo contattata il 7/1/2002 prendendo spunto dell'articolo
apparso lo stesso giorno sul quotidiano di Roma "Il Messaggero",
intitolato: "Jugoslavia, crack della Beograd Bank: Milosevic
incriminato per fallimento" (sic).
D : Professoressa, a che pro questa incriminazione di Milosevic?
Cosa c'e' dietro questo recente fallimento della Beobanka?
R : Come sappiamo tutti benissimo, a noi furono imposte le sanzioni...
Abbiamo ottenuto crediti da un fondo capitali che non era controllato.
Questo fondo capitali ci e' stato imposto. La Jugoslavia e' stata
costretta ad indebitarsi fortemente da vari centri finanziari che
cosi' riciclavano i loro capitali, e non tanto perche' avesse bisogno
di questi crediti. Ecco da dove viene il doppio gioco. Questo e' cio'
che ha ereditato Milosevic non appena e' arrivato al potere. Questa e'
una parte del problema. L'altra parte e' ben nota: al tempo delle
sanzioni si poteva commerciare [con l'estero] solamente alla borsa
nera. Anche le medicine si acquistavano alla borsa nera, anche la
nafta e gli altri prodotti si acquistavano cosi'. Pertanto, una
economia grigia, illegale, si e' generata sotto la pressione delle
sanzioni, e dunque credo che in una situazione del genere... Io non
difendo Milosevic, che ha sicuramente fatto i suoi errori per i quali
dovrebbe rispondere, ma non dinanzi al Tribunale dell'Aia bensi'
dinanzi al suo popolo, qui. Non si puo' attribuire tutta la
responsabilita' ad sola una persona in una situazione cosi'
complicata, come quella in cui si e' trovata la Jugoslavia. Sapete,
questa maniera di semplificare attribuendo la responsabilita' ad
una sola persona e' in effetti un modo per nascondere i retroscena
di un complesso, e direi sporco, gioco diplomatico. In che misura
sia responsabile Milosevic per il fallimento della Beobanka,
in che misura sia questo il risultato delle sanzioni che l'Occidente
ci ha imposto arbitrariamente, in che misura sia questo il risultato
di una economia grigia, questo e' qualcosa che dovrebbero stabilire
gli esperti di finanza, ma io penso che sia infantile, che sia
veramente un gioco evidente e sciocco addossare la colpa ad una
persona soltanto.
D : Dietro a questo fallimento non si nasconde forse una svendita
al capitale straniero?
R : In effetti non si tratta solamente della Beobanka, si tratta
della liquidazione di quattro grande banche nazionali e allo stesso
tempo si lascia che entri il capitale straniero e che in Jugoslavia
aprano filiali di banche straniere. Ma c'e' ancora un'altra cosa che
bisogna tenere in considerazione. E' stata emanata una legge sulla
privatizzazione, ma non e' stata emanata alcuna legge per la
de-nazionalizzazione, cosi' che si tratta di una doppia rapina ed
ancora di un gioco dietro le quinte. Cioe', con la privatizzazione
essi privatizzano qualcosa che non appartiene loro! Perche' questo
capitale non si restituisce ai vecchi proprietari, che sono ancora
vivi ed esistono? [Si riferisce, in generale e non relativamente al
caso specifico delle banche, alla borghesia di prima della seconda
guerra mondiale, ndT] Pero' non e' una decisione presa solo qui, e'
una decisione dei centri di potere in Occidente, che ritengono che
non si debba de-nazionalizzare, affinche' non si crei un capitalismo
nazionale, una elite nazionale, bensi' affinche' tutto questo venga
inserito nella globalizzazione del mercato, del capitale e
naturalmente delle compagnie multinazionali straniere. E questo negli
USA e nel G7.
D : Lei ha partecipato a una tavola rotonda alla TV di Zagabria
nel 1990: si parlava della possibilita' di creare una confederazione
jugoslava. Mi puo' ripetere a quali condizioni si puo' formare una
confederazione... e se adesso, a suo avviso, le ex-repubbliche
jugoslave si potrebbero confederare ?
R : Si', e' vero. In quel periodo, quando si discuteva della
trasformazione della federazione in confederazione, in realta' cio'
era contrario alle tendenze generali in atto in Europa. Noi avremmo
potuto facilmente entrare a far parte dell'Unione Europea. E' stato
un grande errore non realizzarlo, un errore di cui sono responsabili
indistintamente anche tutti i nostri leader politici del tempo da
Ljubljana a Skopje. La trasformazione della federazione in una
confederazione - in cui si sarebbero tracciate frontiere, barriere
innalzate a bella posta, commerciali, per il passaggio delle merci,
delle persone, del capitale - era inconciliabile con le tendenze
europee [che volevano lo smembramento del paese, ndT]. Oggi credo
che tutte le repubbliche dell'ex-Jugoslavia, che oggi sono diventate
"indipendenti", sono incapaci di condurre una vita autonoma. Ora
tutti comprendono che cio' e' stato un grande errore, ma e' troppo
tardi. Si e' arrivati a un punto di rottura, di inimicizia, di
lacerazioni dolorose, per cui in questo momento non sarebbe
possibile, anche psicologicamente, che il popolo accetti l'idea
di una confederazione. Sa, quando oggi si fa il nome di... perche'
molta gente e' morta, le famiglie sono molto addolorate, e quando
si fa il nome di una comunita' alla gente gli si drizzano i capelli
in testa. E' per questo che ritengo che le condizioni politiche non
siano mature, per poter pensare a un progetto simile. Per cio' e'
necessario che si rimargino le ferite aperte e ci vorranno due o
tre generazioni perche' cio' avvenga . Quel che dobbiamo certamente
fare e' volgerci verso l'Europa, creare dei canali di comunicazione
con l'Europa. Solo in questa prospettiva piu' ampia si potra'
parlare di una possibile cooperazione anche in questo momento, perche'
tra le sole repubbliche ex-jugoslave cio' e' impossibile.
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