ECCEZIONALE!!!
A quasi 14 mesi dall'inizio della missione "umanitaria" coloniale
dell'Esercito italiano sul territorio del Kosmet ancora NEMMENO UN
GIORNALE OD ALTRO ORGANO DI INFORMAZIONE HA FATTO UNO STRACCIO DI
INCHIESTA (inchiesta? neanche un accenno!!!) al passato coloniale
dell'Italia fascista in Kosovo!

A questi vigliacchi giornalisti, bugiardi e servili, tutta la nostra
ammirazione per il modo in cui svolgono integerrimi il loro quotidiano
lavoro di propaganda nascondendo i fatti che contano e dando in pasto
all'opinione pubblica solo quello che vogliono i loro padroni.
FATE SCHIFO!!!


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* LINK SEGNALATI SU KOSMET E GRANDE ALBANIA

* TERRORISMO UCKFOR IN SERBIA MERIDIONALE
* REO CONFESSO IL MILITARE STATUNITENSE CHE HA STUPRATO ED UCCISO
UNA BAMBINA KOSOVARA

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LINK SEGNALATI SU KOSMET E GRANDE ALBANIA

-> http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980000-kla-petkovic-terror.htm
Albanian Terrorists
Milan V. Petkovic, 1998
Index: Introduction, Islamic Extremism and the European Quest, Growing
Iranian influence, The Albanian Initiative, The US Interest for
Terrorists in Kosovo and Metohija, TURKEY, ALBANIA AND THE "REPUBLIC
KOSOVA", Using religion, Turkey, Albania and Kosovo and Metohija,
Planning the "Republic of Kosova", The "Kosovo Liberation Army", What is
the "Kosovo Liberation Army"?, Profile of a terrorist, "Dogs of War" are
arriving, Profession - Terrorist
MAPS & DRAWINGS, ABBREVIATIONS, BIBLIOGRAPHY

-> http://crash.to/KFORMYASS

-> http://www.wava.com
If your computer has audio (Web TV does), please check out the radio
program "Kosovo: Update On The Balkans Debacle And Shameful NATO
Failure" at the Washngton, D.C. radio station WAVA.
It features the Emperor's New Clothes' (and Stop NATO's own) Jared
Israel and former Canadian Ambassador to Yugoslavia James Bissett.
Highly recommended.
To hear it:
1. Go to http://www.wava.com
2. Click on DON KROAH (the host)
3. Click on DON KROAH"S AUDIO ARCHIVES
4. Type in JARED ISRAEL
5. Click on Interviews Parts 1 and 2

-> http://foreignaffairs.tripod.com/armillotta/kos_kla.html
Pavarësi për Kosovën Heroike - Independence for Heroic Kosova - Albanian
Links Page
SITO ITALIANO PAN-ALBANESE

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TERRORISMO UCKFOR IN SERBIA MERIDIONALE

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/fighting.htm

Terrorism In Southern "Serbia Proper"
Increased fighting between rebels and Yugoslavian forces

Agence France Presse, July 27
www.tenc.net
[NOTE from Emperor's Clothes (7-29-00) - In the following story, Agence
France Presse (AFP) reports that NATO has "repeatedly warned the UPCMB
[terrorists] that they will not allow their troops to be drawn into
fighting" and suggests that NATO is trying to stop terrorist raids
against towns in ''Serbia proper.''
By referring to ''Serbia proper'' Agence France Presse (AFP) is trying
to solve what the rug cleaner who destroyed my rug called "a situation,"
namely that NATO entered Kosovo under UN Resolution 1244 which states
that Kosovo is part of Serbia, no ifs ands or buts. BUT in practice NATO
and the UN have engineered the terrorizing and expulsion of almost
everyone who a) isn't Albanian or b) hates the Kosovo Liberation Army
(KLA) not to mention the eradication of Serbian culture. (See footnote
1) Moreover, NATO and the UN have presided over the theft of Serbian
property, big, medium and small. AFP doesn't want to say Kosovo is
separate from Serbia and it doesn't want to say Kosovo is part of
Serbia, so it calls the area just north of the Kosovo provincial border
"Serbia proper.''
Anyway, AFP says NATO wants peace.
As you may recall, we heard the same thing from NATO leaders regarding
the Kosovo Verification Mission in the fall of 1998. Some of us argued
that the Verification Mission was dominated by US covert agents who
wanted to: 1) identify future bombing targets as well as 2) upgrade the
Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) from gangsterism and terror to gangsterism,
terror plus the ability to fight battles, if lamely. (Footnote 2)
Now NATO and the UN have installed a regime made up of the same KLA
monsters, recycled as the Kosovo Protection Corps. As the article below
suggests, members of the wonderfully-named Kosovo "Protection" Corp are
the ones attacking Serbia. If NATO were sincere about stopping these
attacks, what could they do? Hint: how about arresting KPC chief Agim
Ceku for starters? "But gee, fellows, wouldn't that be, like, war-like?"
(footnote 3)
Over the past ten years the West has repeatedly 'warned' it will not be
dragged into fighting in Yugoslavia which is followed by the West being
'dragged' into fighting in Yugoslavia. This is because Humanitarian
Disasters reliably occur at the required moment, overriding promises of
non-intervention. Last time it was the Racak (non)-massacre. (footnote
4) This time it will be Something Terrible Serbia Does to Montenegro and
Something Terrible Serbia Does in Southern Serbia. Amazingly
cooperative, those Serbs.
Diana Johnstone says this is NATO's Humanitarian Trigger. (footnote 5)
Bertolt Brecht says: "When the leaders speak of peace the common people
know war is coming."
I say, take the 'Agence France Presse' with a generous pinch of salt.
And get the word out to as many people as possible.
We need to prevent a war. The article follows. Jared Israel.]
Fighting in southern Serbia between Yugoslavian security forces and
ethnic Albanian separatists has intensified in the past week, US troops
stationed nearby told AFP Thursday.
The commander of the KFOR peacekeeping force's Outpost Sapper, Captain
Tom Hairgrove, said that his troops had heard automatic gunfire and
explosions from over the administrative border in Serbia proper near the
village of Dobrosin on two nights this week.
As he spoke, his troops were reinforcing the fortifications surrounding
the checkpoint they man on the narrow country road beween Gnjilane in
Kosovo and Dobrosin with extra razor wire and barricades packed with
soil and rocks.
Dobrosin is in a pocket of Serbia controlled by the Liberation Army of
Presevo, Medvedja and Bujanovac (UPCMB), an ethnic Albanian guerilla
force fighting to separate the Presevo valley area and its 70,000-strong
Albanian majority from Yugoslavia.
Guerrillas in the village confirmed to AFP Thursday that there had been
recent fighting in the area but refused to discuss details.
"We have heard bursts of automatic gunfire and explosions, probably
mortars. There's definitely something going on," Hairgrove said.
KFOR sources said that the increased activity around Dobrosin in the
five-kilometre (three-mile) -wide Ground Safety Zone, a demilitarised
strip of land between UN-administered Kosovo and Serbia proper, was a
matter of concern.
The zone was set up under the Military Technical Agreement signed
between NATO and Yugoslavia in June last year to regulate the withdrawal
of Belgrade's forces from the disputed province.
Under the agreement, the Yugoslavian army is barred from entering the
zone, although Belgrade's well-armed interior ministry paramilitary
police force does patrol there and sometimes clashes with the rebels.
The UPCMB guerrillas move around openly in Dobrosin, where they are
clearly in charge. They are well armed with good quality Yugoslavian
manufactured Kalashnikov assault rifles and a variety of pistols,
grenades and sub-machine guns.
US soldiers stationed 200 metres (yards) from the village estimate their
strength in Dobrosin at any one time to be around 60.
KFOR patrols keep a close eye on the frontier to try and prevent arms
being smuggled to the rebel group, which is thought to have close links
with ethnic Albanian militants in Kosovo.
One of the rebels met by AFP was wearing the uniform of the Kosovo
Protection Corps (KPC), the civilian successor of the Kosovo Liberation
Army (KLA). The man, who was unarmed, wore the shoulder flash of the
group's Second Region, that operating in the north of Kosovo near
Kosovska Mitrovica.
The KPC, which is commanded by former KLA leaders, was set up as a
civilian disaster relief force and receives funding from international
donors including the United States and the European Union.
Other rebels wore a variety of camouflage or black fatigues emblazoned
with the red, black and gold UPCMB badge, itself very similar to those
worn by the KLA and KPC.
>From the hill above Dobrosin, a small farming community huddled around a
tiny mosque, six-man UPCMB patrols can be seen strung out along dirt
tracks into the hills around the village.
KFOR has repeatedly warned the UPCMB that they will not allow their
troops to be drawn into fighting in the Ground Safety Zone or further
inside Serbia.
Footnotes
1) On the attempted eradication of Serbian culture in Kosovo, see Season
of Peace at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/churchpics/list.htm (This
article has many pictures so it loads slowly)
2) On the now-exposed covert aims of the Kosovo Verification Mission in
the fall of 1998, see 'The Cat's out of the bag!' with introduction by
Jared Israel at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/ciaaided.htm
3) If you haven't read it, please read the amazing article, 'The UN
appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo' by Michel Chossudovsky at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/unandthe.htm
4) 'Racak - The Impossible Massacre by Diana Johnstone at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/Recak.html
5) See Diana Johnstone's "NATO's Humanitarian Trigger,' at
www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/NATOTRIG.html

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REO CONFESSO IL MILITARE STATUNITENSE CHE HA STUPRATO ED UCCISO
UNA BAMBINA KOSOVARA

Saturday July 29 7:59 AM ET
U.S. Soldier Pleads Guilty to Murder of Kosovo Girl

By Steven Silber

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - U.S. Staff Sergeant Frank Ronghi pleaded guilty
late on Friday to the forcible sodomy and premeditated murder of an
11-year-old ethnic Albanian girl while on peacekeeping duty in Kosovo.

Sentencing is due to start on Monday at 1100 GMT, when a panel of
officers will hear testimony and deliberate on whether to give the
soldier a chance for parole.

A Weapons Squad leader in the 3rd battalion of the 504th Parachute
Infantry Regiment, Ronghi also pleaded guilty to indecent acts with a
child.

The 36-year-old native of Niles, Ohio, faces a maximum penalty of life
imprisonment without chance of parole.

Ronghi was arrested in the Yugoslav province after the bruised and
lacerated body of Merite Shabiu was found in a woodland outside the town
of Vitina on January 13.

Shabiu's parents were present at the plea session, said Erik Gunhus,
spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division.

``They were very strong people. The interpreter sat between them and you
could see what was said affected them. The mother wept very quietly,''
Gunhus told Reuters after witnessing the plea.

The U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division said court proceedings in
Wuerzburg, Germany, had been brought forward to Friday evening from next
Monday following an unexpected request to the military judge by the
defense.

Ronghi, a well-built man with short dark hair, remained calm at the
hearing, Gunhus said.

``He was composed throughout the hearing, his voice was strong and his
answers were sure. He didn't appear nervous,'' he said.

At a pre-trial hearing in February, a sergeant told of how a young
private under his command alleged that Ronghi had taken him in a Humvee
military vehicle to an apartment block, loaded up the vehicle out of his
sight and then driven out of town, where the two of them had dumped the
girl's body.

Ronghi, sent to Kosovo from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, has been held in
confinement by the U.S. Army in Mannheim, Germany.

The Army said last month that if found guilty, Ronghi would serve his
term at a federal prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

The trial would have had to be held in the United States if the army had
decided to push for the death penalty to punish the first serious crime
implicating one of the NATO-led KFOR peacekeepers charged with keeping
order in the Yugoslav province.


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OTPOR: "sotterrare il comunismo ancora vivo e vegeto in Serbia dopo
cinquant'anni"

Kragujevac - Otpor observes July 7
Otpor activists staged a performance on Friday named "Let's Regain our
consciousness" in front of their premises in Kragujevac to observe the
Day of Uprising in Serbia. They placed three red painted pentagrams made
of ice on the sunlit side of the street and set candles beside them.
Otpor activist Ana Savic told Beta news agency that "thawing of the
five-pointed stars in the sun" symbolized "the entombment of Communism
still alive and vivid in Serbia after five decades."
(Fonte: http://www.otpor.com )


TEPPISTI DA STADIO: "Stasera e' la nostra sera, stasera Slobo brucia,
lasciatelo bruciare, chi se ne frega e' solo un comunista"

(Slogan degli Ultras della Stella Rossa di Belgrado,
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* Collaborazione tra Israele e la Croazia: l'interesse imperialista
israeliano alla frantumazione della RFSJ e' stato anteposto alla memoria
storica del nazismo!
(Sulle forniture di armi da Israele alla Croazia suggeriamo la lettura
del libro "Traffico di armi" di Gambino e Grimaldi, Editori Riuniti)

* Storico israeliano contesta la politica antiserba della NATO
* Avvocati ebrei in Israele e Svizzera in prima linea nella battaglia
per la restituzione da parte del Vaticano dei beni della vittime dei
clerico-nazisti ustascia
* Appello della Zionist Organization of America contro la politica
antiserba di Israele e delle principali organizzazioni ebraiche

Sulla politica "umanitaria" delle lobby sioniste in Jugoslavia si veda:
http://www.jdc.org/programs/yugoslavia.html
American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee Inc.

Per la puntata precedente si veda:
http://www.egroups.com/message/crj-mailinglist/193?&start=175
Introduction to the Vatican Bank Claims


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Zagreb's VINA 3/7/00: "Croatia's First Deputy Prime Minister
Goran Granic and Israel's Deputy Defence Minister Ephraim Sneh
agreed in Zagreb on Tuesday [7 March] that the two countries
should start intensifying their cooperation immediately, the
Government said in a statement. In that regard, the two
officials agreed on a visit by a Croatian government delegation
to Israel."

Taken from:
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THE ZIONIST ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA'S
ISRAEL NEWS CONNECTION
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Monday, March 13, 2000 5:00 AM EST (1000 UTC)
Editor: Michael C. Hoffman O&F: 301-681-0858
Email: michaelh@...
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To go direct to ZINC's website, Click here:
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Actually its funny that you should have noticeed the Israel-Croatia
cooperation story...This isn't just politics, according to an edition of
GLOBUS (Croatian magazine) dated April (Travnja), 2nd, 1999 (No.434) on
pages 26-28 we are told that the HV (the Croatian Army) should be
equiped in
two years time with Israel's "Galil" automatic weapon [Israel's version
of
the M-16] for Croatian infantry. The magazine points out the "Galil's"
compatibility with NATO weapons but then goes on to make a huge fuss of
the
fact that Croatia is buying Israeli weapons instead of serializing the
"made
in Croatia" APS 95 which is produced by the arms-manufacturer "ARMA".

STOP NATO: NO PASARAN! - HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.HOME-PAGE.ORG

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After the Rain - How the West Lost the East -
http://www.geocities.com/vaksam/after.html

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/analysis/israeli.htm

Israeli historian slams NATO policy

Edited by The Emperor's New Clothes - www.tenc.net

Tel Aviv, February 24th 2000 (Tanjug) - NATO's attack on the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia is similar to Hitler's W.W.II onslaught argues
historian Anat Peri in her article, "Let the truth be heard", published
today in the eminent Israeli paper Haarec.

Along with the creation of the Independent State of Croatia under the
clerical-fascist Ustashi and the handing over of Kosovo to a fascist
Albanian regime, Hitler ordered that all the Serbs opposing Nazism be
expelled. According to Peri, Germany and the US have encouraged the
secession of Croatia and the expulsion of the Serbian population from
Croatian territory, just as Hitler did.

The US provided the fascistic, secessionist Albanian army with arms,
encouraged it to attack the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, to take
control of parts of the southern Serbian province of Kosovo and to
attack
Serbian soldiers. America supported ethnic Albanian gangster-terrorists
and accused ethnic Albanian intellectuals from Kosovo of cooperating
with
the Serbs, according to the Israeli historian.

Anat Peri states that Ibrahim Rugova, a leader of Kosovo ethnic
Albanians,
fears for his life because of the US-backed KLA terrorists. Under the
patronage of the US government, these terrorists have become the
murderers
not only of Serbs, but also of Albanians opposing their violence.
According to Peri, NATO's policies very much resemble Hitler's.

NATO's interest lies in provoking violence between the small nations
that
comprised Yugoslavia in order to enforce submission, says the Israeli
historian.

In contrast to its claims, NATO aggression wasn't to protect ethnic
Albanians; rather the purpose was to attack Russia's last ally in
Europe.
After the arrival of KFOR and UNMIK, the majority of the Serbian
population has been expelled from Kosovo, the remaining Serbs are being
murdered daily, while KFOR representatives are unconcerned, says Ms.
Peri.

***

Further reading

Some Jewish leaders have actively engaged in Serb-bashing and even
trivialized the Holocaust by comparing Yugoslavia's defense of its
soveriengty to Hitler's attempt to create a nightmare world. But other
Jewish intellectuals and leaders have spoken out in defence of truth and
against anti-Serbian (that is, anti-Slav) racism. Here are some
interesting examples:

Yugoslav Chief Rabbi on Serbophobia by Danon Cadik, at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/danon/YugoRabb.html
Hijacking the Holocaust by Todd Emoff at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/emoff/hijack.html
'A flimsy pretext of humanitarianism' by Michael Mandel, at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/mandel/aflimsy.htm
Unveiling Similarities: Anti-Serbism & Anti-Semitism by Jared Israel, at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/debates/Blitz.html
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>PLAINTIFF JEWGENIJA ROMANOVA, formerly Petruchina, was born December 7,
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>PLAINTIFF MARIA DANKEWITSCH was born January 29, 1922. Before the German
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>Germans and allied Fascists believed to be Croatians looted and destroyed
>all the household belongings and personal property of Dankewitsch.
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>currently resides in Kiev, Ukraine.
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>PLAINTIFF VLADIMIR MORGUNOV was born September 2, 1925. Before the German
>occupation, he resided in Mariupol, Ukraine in the 75 Kotovskoogo Street.
>Germans and allied Fascists believed to be Croatians looted and destroyed
>all the household belongings and personal property of Morgunov. Morgunov
>was held prisoner at Buchenwald Concentration Camp from March 1943 until
>April 1945 where he was prisoner #13341. Morgunov's current address is in
>Kiev.
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>PLAINTIFF VLADIMIR BRODICH was born March 1, 1931 in the Kingdom of
>Yugoslavia. As a young Serbian Orthodox boy, Vladimir resided in the town
>of Kostajnica, Krajina. In April, 1941 a German officer came to his home,
>because both of his parents were fluent in German (his father having lived
>in Austria and his mother having received her high school education in
>Salzburg, Austria). The officer showed them photographs of Ustasha
>atrocities, warning them that they should leave immediately for Belgrade
>beyond the reach of the Ustasha. The German officer prepared documents for
>the escape of the whole family. Unfortunately, the town mayor persuaded
>his father to stay. In August, 1941 the Ustasha took away his father
>Nickola, his 24 year old brother Dragomir, and his older sister to a
>detention center. Vladimir's father and brother were tortured, then
>murdered. Before their death, his father asked to embrace his son, and
>thus they were shot together. Five years later, their bodies were exhumed
>and identified because still embracing one another. At the detention
>center Vladimir's sister was gang raped by Ustasha. She only survived
>because of the efforts of a Chetnik partisan (who was later captured,
>tortured, and thrown alive into an oven to die by the Ustasha), and died in
>1997 without being able to bear children. Vladimir and his mother survived
>by escaping to Belgrade. Vladimir's family lost their two homes, and
>because Vladimir's brother was so wealthy, it took the Ustasha more than
>two years to auction all of his murdered brother's property. Vladimir came
>to the United States in 1949, is the only surviving heir to the family
>property, and currently resides in Arizona.
>
>
>PLAINTIFF WILLIAM DORICH was born July 17, 1939 in West Virginia.
>Plaintiff's father, Samuel Todorovic Sr., came to the United States at the
>end of World War One as a "displaced person," (along with plaintiff's
>brother George and their parents) from the village of Vojnic in the Krajina
>region, having been "ethnically cleansed" by Croatians who sided with
>Germany in World War One. Upon becoming a naturalized citizen Samuel
>Todorovic Sr., changed the family name to Dorich just prior to the birth of
>his two sons, Samuel Jr., and William. During World War One, the Ustasha
>burned to death 45 Serbian victims in the Orthodox Serbian church in the
>village of Vojnic, of which 17 victims were relatives of the Dorich family.
> Plaintiff has spent his lifetime speaking out against the Ustasha and is
>the author of numerous books on the Balkans. The only member of
>plaintiff's family still alive is his 83 year-old Serbian-American mother,
>Mary Savage Dorich. Plaintiff resides in California.
>
>
>PLAINTIFF IGOR NAJFELD was born June 28, 1944 in Yugoslavia, on the day
>that his mother, a Yugoslavian Jewish physician, and his father, a Polish
>Jewish physician, escaped from 3 years of forced labor by the Ustasha
>Regime beginning in 1941. Plaintiff's parents had been living in Zagreb on
>April 10, 1941 when the Nazi's invaded Yugoslavia, but by 4 October 1941
>the Ustasha Regime had imprisoned plaintiff's parents who were later sent
>as forced laborers to Bosnia. Plaintiff's grandparents, who were sent to
>Jasenovac and murdered there, owned a department store in Slavonski Brod
>that was looted and taken over by the Ustashi. 56 of plaintiff's mother's
>relatives were murdered by the Ustasha, many of whom perished in the
>Jasenovac Concentration Camp system. Most of plaintiff's relatives were
>prosperous and all lost property to the Ustasha looting. Plaintiff grew up
>in Yugoslavia and eventually emigrated to the United States, where he now
>resides in Vermont.
>
>
>PLAINTIFF UKRAINE ORGANIZATION OF UKRAINIAN ANTIFASCIST RESISTANCE FIGHTERS
>is recognized by Ukrainian Ministry of Justice as an official
>representative of 8,500 former partisans and resistors of the Nazi
>occupation of Ukraine and concentration camp victims.
>
>
>PLAINTIFF UKRAINIAN UNION OF NAZI VICTIMS AND PRISONERS represents over
>300,000 former slave and forced laborers, prisoners, concentration camp,
>and ghetto survivors.
>
>
>PLAINTIFF JASEONVAC RESEARCH INSTITUTE, established in 1998, is a
>non-profit (503-1) human rights organization and research institute
>registered in the state of Michigan committed to establishing the truth
>about the Holocaust in Yugoslavia and dedicated to the search for justice
>for its victims. The JRI promotes research and activities designed to
>enlighten the world to the crimes of genocide committed at Jasenovac and
>wartime Yugoslavia against Serbs, Jews and Romas and provides assistance to
>all groups and individuals who likewise seek justice for these victims.
>The JRI is also dedicated to fostering unity, justice and the survival of
>the Serbian people and of their cultural heritage worldwide, and it
>promotes cooperation and better relations between all peoples in the
>Balkans.
>
>
>ADDITIONAL PLAINTIFF:
>
>
>DECLARATION OF LIZABETH LALICH IN SUPPORT OF ALPERIN et al. v. VATICAN BANK
>et al., USDC No. C99-4941 MMC
>
>I, Lizabeth Lalich, declare as follows:
>
>1. My paternal family (Lalich): In May 1945, 48 family members, all women
>and children from the Lalich family were murdered and placed in a mass
>grave. They were killed by Croatian Ustasha after they descended from
>hiding in the mountains above their village in Korencia, Lika (Krajina)
>Yugoslavia. The war had just been declared "over" and they thought it was
>safe to return home.
>
>2. My maternal family (Knezevic): Jovan Knezevic, brother of my
>grandfather Stojan Knezevic, was taken from his home and tortured and
>murdered by the Croatian Ustasha in May 1944, in Mutilich, Lika (Krajina),
>Yugoslavia. He was 30 years old.
>
>3. My cousin Dusanka Kovacevic (niece of my grandfather Stojan Knezevic)
>was taken from her home in Dalmatia to Croatian capital Zagreb, along with
>other kidnapped Serbs, and hung to death on Serbian Eastern Orthodox
>Christmas, January 7, 1942. She was a teenager.
>
>I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of
>California that the foregoing is true and correct and executed this 8th day
>of February, 2000, in Chicago, Illinois. /s/ Lizabeth Lalich
>
>
>********
>
>
>PAPERS SERVED ON VATICAN BANK AND FRANCISCAN ORDER
>
>The defendants Vatican Bank and the Franciscan Order have been served their
>copies of the lawsuit. We are awaiting their official responses to the
>court.
>
>
>********
>
>
>NEW ATTORNEYS ON LEGAL TEAM
>
>Several attorneys have joined our legal team, each bringing with them
>unique knowledge and resources that will contribute to the success of the
>lawsuit.
>
>
>They are:
>
>
>K. LEE BOYD is an Associate Professor at Pepperdine University Law School
>and a graduate of Harvard Law School. Lee is the author of several
>articles on International Law and does pro bono work in international
>litigation.
>
>
>MILOSH D. MILENKOVICH came to the United States from Yugoslavia in 1954.
>He is the President of a worldwide Serbian organization and an attorney in
>Cleveland, Ohio.
>
>
>JOY ROTHENBERG has been recognized by the Governor of Ohio for her work
>with Holocaust survivors. She writes, travels, and lectures extensively on
>the issue of Holocaust restitution.
>
>
>********
>
>
>CROATIAN NEO-NAZIS NAMED IN LAWSUIT
>
>
>Plaintiffs in Alperin v. Vatican Bank, a class action lawsuit filed by
>Serb, Jewish and Ukrainian Holocaust survivors seeking restitution of the
>Word War II Croatian-Nazi treasury, have named as defendants the Croatian
>Liberation Movement and other as yet unnamed Croatian groups in a motion
>filed May 3, 2000 in San Francisco Federal Court. Other defendants include
>the Vatican Bank and Franciscan Order of Monks in the class action lawsuit
>filed in San Francisco Federal Court.
>
>A 1998 U.S. State Department report implicated both the Vatican, and Swiss
>National Bank in the disappearance of hundreds of millions of dollars of
>gold, silver, and money looted by the 1941-1945 Croatian regime known as
>the Ustashe from Serbs, Jews, and others. Plaintiffs originally filed suit
>in November 1999 and later obtained wartime and postwar U.S. government
>documents under the Freedom of Information Act that indicated the
>involvement of Vatican and Swiss banks in concealing and transferring
>stolen gold and money between 1944 and 1952 including cash transfers to
>Croatian war criminals in Argentina.
>
>The Croatian Neo-Nazis known as the Croatian Liberation Movement were
>reestablished in Argentina in 1956 as the successors to the wartime
>Croatian Nazis. The WWII wartime leader of Croatia, Ante Pavelic, the war
>criminal responsible for the deaths of 750,000 Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies,
>served as the first leader of the Croatian Liberation Movement until his
>death in 1959. The Croatian Neo-Nazis committed terrorist acts worldwide
>and acted as hired mercenaries in South America and Africa until Croatia's
>secession from Yugoslavia in 1991. Their activities were funded with the
>remnants of the Nazi era Croatian Treasury. After Croatia's independence
>in 1991, the exiles filtered back to Croatia to engage in yet another round
>of violence and ethnic atrocities. Until last year the son-in-law of
>Pavelic headed the Croatian Liberation Movement while working as a Croatian
>diplomat in Rome.
>
>
>***********************
>
>
>SWISS NATIONAL BANK NAMED IN LAWSUIT
>
>
>Plaintiffs in Alperin v. Vatican Bank, a class action lawsuit filed by
>Jewish, Serb and Ukrainian Holocaust
>survivors seeking restitution of the Word War II Croatian-Nazi treasury,
>have named the Swiss National
>Bank and other as yet unnamed Swiss Banks in a motion filed May 3, 2000 in
>San Francisco Federal Court.
>
>A 1998 U.S. State Department report implicated both the Vatican and Swiss
>National Bank in the disappearance
>of hundreds of millions of dollars of gold, silver, and money looted by the
>1941-1945 Croatian regime
>known as the Ustashe from Serbs, Jews, and others.
>
>Plaintiffs originally filed suit in November, 1999 and later obtained
>wartime and postwar U.S. government
>documents under the Freedom of Information Act that indicated the
>involvement of Swiss banks in concealing
>and transferring stolen gold and money between 1944 and 1952 including cash
>transfers to war criminals in
>Argentina.
>
>The allegation filed May 3 reads:
>
>According to the Eizenstat Report, the Swiss National Bank acted as a
>depository for Ustashe loot. The
>Independent Commission of Experts -- Switzerland -- Second World War, known
>as the Bergier Commission, also links Swiss banks with Croatian wartime
>gold transactions (p. 21 of report). United States O.S.S. documents as
>early as 1944 indicate 500 kilograms of gold were deposited by the
>Croatians in the Swiss National Bank along with 2.5 million francs. A 1946
>United Treasury Department report estimates 12 to 16 million francs in gold
>deposits were still controlled by the Ustashi in Swiss bank accounts. A
>1949 C.I.A. document alleges that of 1945, the Ustashi had holdings of 2.5
>million Swiss francs, 1,700 kilograms of gold, and 40,000 kilograms of
>silver in Swiss accounts. A 1948 U.S. Army Intelligence reports confirmed
>that 2,400 kilos of Ustashi stolen gold were moved from the Vatican to one
>of the Vatican's secret Swiss bank accounts. Finally, a 1952 C.I.A.
>document indicates Pavelic, the Ustashi leader, transferred 5 million Swiss
>francs from Switzerland to Argentina.
>
>However, no Swiss bank has yet been named as a defendant. Plaintiffs'
>attorneys have requested
>clarification from counsel in the recently settled 1.25 billion dollar
>Swiss Bank Holocaust class action
>which released Swiss banks from liability for World War II era dealings
>with the Nazis. Plaintiffs however contend that postwar deposits, possibly
>from the Vatican Bank to Swiss Banks may be outside the scope of the
>settlement.
>
>
>********
>
>
>The Vatican Bank Claims website is now working at:
>
>http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com
>
>For further information, please contact:
>
>Law Offices of Thomas Dewey Easton
>
>Jonathan H. Levy
>P.O.B. 6080
>Cincinnati, OHIO 45206
>Office Tel: 513-528-0586
>Email: resistk@...
>
>Tom Easton
>1335 Pebble Beach Drive
>Crescent City, CA 95531
>Office Tel: 707-464-4513
>Office Fax: 707-465-5389
>Email: tomeaston@...
>
>
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>
>ROOT & BRANCH ASSOCIATION, LTD.
>
>Email: rb@...
>Web Site: http://www.rb.org.il
>

>To: pmsrev@...
This address here is for the Croatia Mission of NATO in Brussels!!!

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DATE: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:55:48
From: "Jonathan Levy" <jlevy1@...>
To: <msdarkstar@...>

News for Immediate Release
Easton & Levy, Attorneys
Jonathan Levy (513) 528-0586
jlevy1@...
www.vaticanbankclaims.com

Swiss National Bank faces New Holocaust Lawsuit:
1.25 Billion Dollar Settlement May Offer No Protection

Plaintiffs in Alperin v. Vatican Bank, a class action lawsuit filed by
Holocaust survivors seeking restitution of the Word War II Croatian-Nazi
treasury have asked the court for leave to sue the Swiss National Bank
in a
motion to be filed August 1, 2000 in San Francisco Federal Court.

Lawyers for the Holocaust survivors and their families contend that Serb
WWII victims were purposely omitted from the 1.25 billion Swiss Bank
settlement. In WWII Croatia, the Nazi puppet government murdered
upwards of
700,000 Serbs because of their religion and expelled or forcibly
converted
to Catholicism hundreds of thousands of others. The Serbs were
persecuted
because of their Eastern Orthodox Christian religion, which was
considered
heretical by the Catholic hierarchy. Just like the Jews, Serbs were
exterminated in concentration camps or subject to murderous pogroms.
Fanatic Croatian Catholics known as the Ustasha often supervised by
priests
committed the atrocities.

Documents in the plaintiffs' possession show that the Swiss National
Bank
received substantial gold and silver deposits from the Croatian regime
responsible for the genocide of Serbs. The US State Department has
found
that much of the gold and other treasure sent to Switzerland by the
Croatians consisted of loot taken from victims of the Ustasha. Postwar,
the
gold trail becomes confused, although some loot was returned to Tito's
Yugoslavia, a substantial portion found its way to Argentina where with
help
from the Vatican escape route known as the "ratline", thousands of
Ustasha
war criminals and their supporters were resettled.

As late as 1952, the CIA reported Ustasha loot flowed to Buenos Aires
from
Switzerland. Plaintiffs are seeking an accounting and restitution from
the
Swiss National Bank and in particular information about Vatican accounts
in
Switzerland. The Vatican Bank is also accused of laundering substantial
quantities of Ustasha plunder.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Milan B. Milojevic <mailto:milanbm@...>
To: jatich@... <mailto:jatich@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: HOSTILE MEDIA AGAINST SERBIA

Foreign Affairs News Keywords: SERBIA,KOSOVO,ZIONIST,ISRAEL
Source: Zionist Organization of America
Published: March 29,1999 Author: Elyakim Ha'etzni
Posted on 07/04/2000 15:15:24 PDT by
THE ZIONIST ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA'S ISRAEL NEWS CONNECTION

HOSTILE MEDIA AGAINST SERBIA

by Elyakim Ha'etzni
Arutz Sheva Israel National Radio
Broadcast on March 29, 1999 / Nisan 12, 5759

WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT
It is certainly unnecessary to explain to the listeners of Arutz-7
all about "hostile media." But did
you ever realize that there is another group suffering from
similarly hostile media? The Serbs, for
example?
Without condoning the terrible war crimes no doubt committed by
the Serbs, we and they basically
find ourselves in the same boat. The world press under-states each
of our respective sides, while it
embellishes the Arab-Moslem case, and sweeps under the carpet its
faults, crimes, and inherent
dangers. Both the Serbs and the Israelis are given to
American-European pressure on behalf of the
Moslems.
We were forced in Wye Plantation to give over portions of our
homeland to the Arabs, and the Serbs
are being forced right now to hand over a sovereign region of
theirs, Kosovo, to the Moslem
Albanians.
The Serbs, in fact, call Kosovo their "Jerusalem" - would it be
that we would learn from them how
to stand fast in conviction and determination and strength when
the time comes for us to fight for our
Jerusalem.
[Ed. note: Arutz-7 commentator Rabbi Avraham Wasserman noted that
the Kotzker Rebbe said that
we should learn strong steadfastness even from Pharaoh, who did
not give in for the duration of nine
terrible plagues.]
EVEN IF THEY ALL DIE
The Serbs lost their holy Kosovo to the Turks 600 years ago, and
have dreamt and sung about it ever
since then. They have woven their national identity around Kosovo.
We have pined for Zion and Jerusalem more than three times as
long, and with it all, tell me if there is
one politician amongst us who would say about Jerusalem what
Serbian Deputy Prime Minister
Draskovitch said about Kosovo. Draskovitch, it should be noted,
does not agree with his Prime
Minister, but he and the entire Serbian nation are united around
the Kosovo issue.
Draskovitch said:
"Our faith was born there, as was our language, our nationhood,
our pride. It is incumbent upon us to
defend Kosovo even if we all die." An American reporter asked him
if he does not want his hungry
country to become a part of the West and to share in its wealth.
He answered, "Not if the price is
Kosovo."
THE SERBS FOUGHT THE NAZIS
The hostile press does not tell us who the Serbs really are. From
amongst all the Yugoslavian
peoples, they bore the main brunt of the fight against the Nazis
in World War II. The Croatians
established a Nazi state, and murdered hundreds of thousands of
Serbs and tens of thousands of Jews.
Jews and Serbs are buried together in the Yasenovatz destruction
camp.
0From within Muslim Bosnia, with inciteful encouragement by the
Mufti of Jerusalem,
a Jew-killing SS Division arose. The Serbs kept dozens of German
divisions
occupied in battle, and caused them great losses. Serbia was the
only country in
Europe that threw off the German conquest on its own, paying a
terrible price
along the way: 1,700,000 dead - 11% of its total population.
The partisan army numbered a quarter of a million, including many
Jews, and it
saved thousands of Jews. How could Clinton possibly think that a
people who
went through all this would surrender to an air attack of the type
of which Saddam
Hussein made a mockery?
The hostile media hide from the public the fact that "ethnic
purifications" have
taken place all over Yugoslavia. The Croatians expelled 200,000
Serbs from the
Krajna district. From Kosovo itself, the Moslems - beginning the
moment they
received autonomy there in 1974 - pushed out a half-million Serbs,
while 400,000
Albanians spilled over the border, turning the Serbs into a 10%
minority in their
own homeland.
What are the Serbs fighting about? Milosevich agreed to restore
the autonomy to
the Moslems. He merely refused the NATO demand to bring in 30,000
foreign
troops to his country. What self-respecting country would have
accepted such a
dictate? Clinton had great difficulty explaining why he attacked a
sovereign
country simply because of an internal dispute within its own
borders.
The situation there is not at all the same as Iraq's attempt to
wipe out a foreign
country. If the present attack is justified, why didn't NATO
intervene in China
against the oppression of the Tibetans? What about when Sudan
slaughtered 2.5
million Christian blacks in Khartoum? Why doesn't NATO force its
member state
Turkey to give to the Kurds what it demands for the Kosovo
Albanians? These are
merely a few of the many similar examples all over the globe.
RENEWING THE COLD WAR
In truth, the attack has nothing to do with ethics. Only pure
political pro-Arab interests are at stake
- oil. The U.S. intervened in Afghanistan on behalf of the Moslem
extremists - who are now
engaged in blowing up American embassies and using their
American-supplied Stingers to endanger
aviation all over the world.
Even worse, the Americans, all for the sake of Kosovo, are
themselves endangering
American-Russian relations and the precious gift that Gorbachev
gave the world - the lifting of the
Iron Curtain. Russia and the Serbs are bound by a historic
alliance.
When NATO armed the Croatians and the Bosnians against the Serbs,
and even bombed the Serbs from
the air, Russia renewed its diplomatic and military relations with
Iran, Iraq, and Syria - and we,
Israel, are the victims of the renewal of the Cold War in the
Middle East. This is a direct result of the
defective American policy in Yugoslavia.
American diplomatic failures have left their blood-stained marks
of destruction all over the world:
in Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, Beirut, Somalia, Panama, Bosnia, Arafat's
Palestine, and now Kosovo. This
new method of forcing a country to give up parts of its territory
under the threat of international
attack is now being tested. *Are we next in line?*
Israel's media are acting as if this has nothing to do with us.
The contrary appears to be true: just as the
press here is against us and in favor of Arafat, it is also in
favor of the Moslems in Yugoslavia. At the
behest of Yossi Sarid of Meretz, our left-wing government of a few
years ago sent humanitarian aid
to the Bosnians, of all people, and even absorbed Bosnian
refugees.
We, the listeners of Arutz-7, are in favor of the Jews! We will be
alert and attentive to what is
happening in Kosovo, as it may be a general rehearsal for what
could happen here if we don't give the
Palestinian terrorists a state with Jerusalem as its capital.
AID TO BOTH SIDES
But not only our own self-interest is at play here. The
gratefulness that we have to the
Serbs for their actions in World War II also demands that we
listen to both sides,
and to send aid also to the Serbian victims. Sarid is again
insisting that the Foreign
Ministry send aid only to the Moslems. I call upon the listeners
to demand that
Foreign Minister Sharon (fax: (972-2) 530-3506; sar@...)
put an end to
the one-sided leftist aid only to the Moslems, and send aid also
to the Serbs. A
public committee should arise to send aid to the Serbs, as well.


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* DECLARATION OF THE SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC OF BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA;
POLITICAL PLATFORM (MOSLEM NATIONAL COUNCIL)
* Alija Izetbegovic: his background and philosophies
(A briefing paper produced for Members for the 1992/3 Session of
Australian Parliament, Monday 21 December 1992)
* MUJAHIDEEN RESIST EVICTION (FreeRepublic, The Observer, StopNato)

* Sul passato politico di Izetbegovic e sulla presenza islamista in
Bosnia-Erzegovina si vedano anche le nostre pagine internet:
http://marx2001.org/crj/bosna.html


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* The text below was published in October 1991 in the Bosnian
*
* magazine Vox. With permission from the book "The Eradication of
*
* of Serbs" that provided evidence that led to indictments at The
*
* Hague. Authenticity can be confirmed by writing to P.O. Box 163,
*
* CDN, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3S 2S5.
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DECLARATION
OF THE SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC OF BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA

The Declaration of the Sovereignity of the Republic of
Bosnia-Her-
zegovina is the basic constitutional act of the Moslems and all
educa-
ted and reasonable people of Herzeg-Bosna. Kitabun enzelnahu ileike
mubarekun lijeddebbem ajadhive li jetezekke ululelbabi-huden ve
zikra
li uteil-elbabi.

1.Bosnia-Herzegovina is the sovereign state of the Moslems and
other nations. It is the state of origin of the Moslems in the
Balkan
Peninsula.
2.The sovereignity of Bosnia-Herzegovina is indivisible and its
territorial integrity is inviolable.
3.Concurrent with the independence of the Republic of Slovenia
from Yugoslavia, the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina will
immediately
proclaim itself an independent state.
4. The Moslem nation which is the bearer of the sovereignity of
Bosnia-Herzegovina recognises cultural autonomy for Croats, Serbs
and
other nations of the Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
5. The citizens of the sovereign state of Bosnia-Herzegovina
will
also have a say in its defence affairs, based on patriotic
fellowship,
patriotism and co-existence.
6. The state of origin of the Moslems and other nations of the
Republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina will resolve the national question
of
the Croats, Serbs and other nations on the basis of reciprocity,
which
is the guarantee recognised by intemational law, in a state ruled
by
law, human rights and human freedoms.
7. The Declaration of the Sovereign State of Bosnia-Herzegovina
will be proclaimed by the people at a referendum by a simple
majority
vote.

INITIATORY BOARD
MOSLEM
NATIONAL COUNCIL

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POLITICAL PLATFORM
OF THE MOSLEM NATIONAL COUNCIL

Brother Moslems

With your permission and the help of Allah, the Moslem National
Council has been appointed to achieve the age-long dream of all
Moslems, to create a Moslem state in the Balkan Peninsula.
History teaches us that we are a nation without an identity, a
nation without a state of its own and a nation without a bright
future.
Others have always written our history, studied our origins, taught
us
what we were and what we were not.
Our agas and beys kept telling us: "It is not yet time. Have
patience brother Moslems". How much longer, brother Moslems? If we
hold the same view that truth is eternal and unchangeable and the
truth is, brothers, that every fifth man in the world is a Moslem,
then this applies to the Balkans as well.
The Moslem National Council in Bosnia-Herzegovina was not
founded
with pomp like the Serbian National Councils in Srb, Knin, Banja
Luka
and Ozren with the slogan: "Only concord saves the Serbs", and the
Serbian Democratic Party for Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
We are only a parallel for them and while they exist so will
the
Moslem National Council. Bratunac has not been chosen as the centre
of
this council without reason. It is the geographical centre of the
Moslems in Yugoslavia and that region still bears the extremely
negative marks of the war. The time has come to start with the
homogenisation of the Moslems, as other nations have done. What has
been achieved after the elections? Workers are still being
dismissed,
people do not receive their pensions, the people are poor and there
are no prospects. The "MNV" is here to draw conclusions. One of our
main tasks will be to establish Bosnia-Herzegovina as a sovereign
state of the Moslems and other nationals who live in it. The Serbs
and
Croats cannot have two or three states and the Moslems ask whether
they have one at all. We shall organise a rally during Bairam in
the
neighbourhood of Bratunac where we shall invite Izetbegovic,
Zulfikarpasic, Durakovic, Filipovic, Muhic and Mr. Karadzic will
also
be invited. It will not be a rally at which we shall throw flowers,
the Moslems will take a clear political stand. This is a unique
opportunity, it is a time that will not come again, and we are
again
late and are still divided.

PRIORITY GOALS OF THE MNV

1. To abolish the State Security Service (DB)
Explanation: The State Security Service of Bosnia-Herzegovina
currently employs 1,062 agents, 90% are Serbs.
2. For the Party of Democratic Action to pass a law to
unconditionally
disband the State Security Service.
3. For the Party of Democratic Action to pass a law on
de-nationalisa-
tion and for the confiscated property to be restored to the
citizens of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
4. For the Assembly of Bosnia-Herzegovina to pass and to start
procee-
dings to draw up a new constitution in which the Moslem nation
will be the bearer of sovereignity.

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WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO SERBS IN THE ISLAMIC
REPUBLIC OF BOSNIA - HERZEGOVINA


The day is nearing when the announced Islamic Republic of
Bosnia-Herzegovina will be proclaimed. The date which every
Moslem in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Sandzak is ardently waiting
for has been known for a long time to be the 31st December.
There are some indications that Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina
might oppose this historic event. In this connection, certain
measures have been taken which will be applied if the Serb
population of Bosnia-Herzegovina does not agree to this idea.

1. Every individual Serb must be aware of the responsibility
of the entire nation for his uncontrolled actions; the penalty
for crimes committed will be collective - for one demolished
Moslem house, ten Serb houses will be demolished - for one dead
Moslem, one hundred Serbs will be liquidated - for one wounded
Moslem (depending on the severity of the wound) 10-15 Serbs.

2. All Serbs will have a 12-hour working day. Their wages
will be proportionate to the loyalty of all the employees and
as a rule they will be paid 30% less than the wages of Moslems
who occupy the same post.

3. Serbs will have priority in the dismissal of redundant
workers.

4. Serbs cannot enter public institutions without special
passes.

5. Serbs will receive rations for food which they will obtain
in

special shops.

6. Serbs do not have national parties and if they do not
abide
by the rules of political life, they will not be entitled to
political Organization or to vote.

7. In the Islamic Republic, the right of Serbs to produce
alcohol will not be withdrawn, but Moslems are entitled to apply
the Sheriat to all inhabitants of the state.

8. Serbs are equal to Moslems if, of their own will, they are
received into the Islamic faith of their forefathers. No one has
the right to refer to their previous life because they are not
guilty for being Serbs. No generation is accountable for the
actions of the previous one, or some other that preceded it.

9. A good Serb is a living and obedient Serb; or a dead,
disobedient Serb.

---

From Alija Izetbegovic. 1990. Islamska Deklaracija. Published by Mala
Muslimanska Biblioteka. 'little Muslim Library', issued by the Muslim
Cultural-Historical Circle. First published in 1970.
I quote [translation mine]:


page 22: "There is no peace nor coexistence between the 'Islamic faith'
and
non-Islamic social and political institutions.... "


Izetbegovic in effect called for the annihilation -- through
conversion,
expulsion or killing he does not say -- of non-Muslims. Page 37:


"The Islamic movement can be realized only in lands in which Muslims
constitute the majority of the population.' ... Non-Islamic minorities
within the Islamic state, ON CONDITION OF LOYALTY, enjoy religious
freedom
and full protection."


Izetbegovic does not spell out what he means by 'loyalty' or what
happens to
those accused of disloyalty. Before war broke out, his youth publication
VOX
featured a cartoon cover showing fez-wearing characters playing with the
severed heads of Karadzic, Koljevic, and Krajisnik [just arrested by
NATO]...


j p maher

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BALKAN RESEARCH CENTRE MEMBERS BRIEF
Alija Izetbegovic: his background and philosophies
A briefing paper produced for Members
for the 1992/3 Session of Australian Parliament
Monday 21 December 1992

ALIJA IZETBEGOVIC - BRIEF

ALIJA IZETBEGOVIC, leader of the SDA (Muslim Party of Democratic
Action), is currently the
President of the Presidency of Bosnia-Hercegovina. He was born in
Bosanski Samac in 1925,
went to school in Sarajevo, and eventually completed law school; he had
no schooling in religion
within the Islamic school system.

Izetbegovic's Early Years

From his early youth, Izetbegovic dedicated himself to Islamic work. At
16 he became part of the
group that founded religious-political organisation "Young Muslims" in
Sarajevo, in 1940. From
the very outset the "YM" was modelled on fundamentalist formations in
the Islamic world, such
as "As-subban al-muslimun" and "Al-ikwan al-muslimun". One of the five
points of the "YM"
programme insisted on the unity of the Muslim world through the creation
of one large Muslim
state.

During the Second World War, the "YM" grew and become part of a network
of Islamic religious
groups headed by the highly conservative theologian of the Mehmed
Handzic (1906-1944). The
"YM" were not officially pro-fascist in orientation, though they were
pursued for this by the
Communist regime after 1945. There were, however, many individual
examples of active
collaboration with the Ustashi government.

Izetbegovic was arrested in 1946, for his significant participation in
founding the Muslim journal
MUDZAHID. He spent the next three years in jail for promoting hatred. At
the same time, his
friend Nedzib Sacirbegovic was given a four year prison sentence.
Sacirbegovic is now
Izetbegovic's personal representative in the USA and his son Muhamed, is
Bosnia-Hercegovina's ambassador to the UN. Izetbegovic has
systematically promoted to top
positions in the SDA people who were political "cadres" in the original
"YM" movement.

In February 1949, the "Young Muslims" started an open revolt. This was
short-lived. During
subsequent trials held in Sarajevo in 1949, four members of the "YM"
were sentenced to death
and many were given prison sentences.

After this lesson, Islamic activists stopped creating illegal groups and
started working on
Islamisation "from underneath". This meant penetrating the very pores of
the system's
institutions, including the formal Islamic community, because the
activists considered their
leaders to be traitors to the authentic Islamic cause. From the
beginning Izetbegovic preferred
Shiite Islamic radicalism in comparison to the Sunni.
Izetbegovic's doctrine - "The Islamic Declaration"

Izetbegovic published many articles in Muslim journals (TAKVIM, GVIS,
etc.), discussing the
sad state of Islam and the necessity for its universal regeneration.

In 1970, he wrote and distributed to people of confidence, his specific
manifesto or programme for
radical pan-Islam - the ISLAMIC DECLARATION.

In this booklet, similar to many of the same type circulating in the
Islamic world, but the only one
of its sort in Yugoslavia, Izetbegovic advocated:

- general Islamic moral and religious regeneration;
- a return to true Islamic values;
- (re)Islamisation of Muslims;
- creation and strengthening of different types of Islamic unity;
- struggle, up to and including political and armed war for the creation
of an Islamic order in
countries where Muslims represent majority, or near majority of the
population.

In line with his pan-Islamic and anti-secular thinking, Izetbegovic
stated in the ISLAMIC
DECLARATION that:

- there should be the establishment of "a united Islamic community from
Morocco to Indonesia";
- with reference to the Turkish model - "Turkey as an Islamic country
used to rule the world.
Turkey as an imitation of Europe represents a third-rate country, the
like of which there is a
hundred in the world":

- "there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith
and non-Islamic social
and political institutions";

- "the Islamic movement must and can, take over political power as soon
as it is morally and
numerically so strong that it can not only destroy the existing
non-Islamic power, but also to build
up a new Islamic one".


The ISLAMIC DECLARATION is imbued with a deep-set intolerance towards
"the values of
western civilisation", both capitalist and Marxist. It was re-published
in 1990 in Sarajevo,
testifying to the fact that its author, in the meantime, had in no way
gone back on his positions -
one of Islamic fundamentalism.

Muslims who gathered around the re-published ISLAMIC DECLARATION, were
former
members of the "YM" and new activists. They tie their activities to
those of Muslim centres
abroad - religious, political, propaganda and economic - above all with
specific groups in Iran.

In his book ISLAM BETWEEN EAST AND WEST, published first in the USA
(1984) and then
Turkey, develops his views on the superiority of Islam over all other
religions, cultures, ideologies
and philosophies. This book was published in Serbo-Croatian, only in
Belgrade in 1988; the
Sarajevo authorities used all means to prevent it getting published at
all.

Izetbegovic - leader of Bosnia's Muslims

With a group of Muslim activists, Izetbegovic was arrested in 1983 for
activities against the
state. As the chief defendant, he was sentenced to fourteen years. In
1988, he was released after
less than six years of prison.

After the fall of Communism in Yugoslavia, Izetbegovic became one of the
leaders in the creation
of the SDA party (1990), as a Muslim political party. He was elected
President with the support
of his old fellows from the ranks of the "YM" and the support of the
young radicals.

Izetbegovic gave his new, nominally national and civilian political
party, a deeply-set religious
connotation. As the first president of the collective Presidency of this
young state, and by far the
most influential Muslim politician on the soil of former Yugoslavia
(having ousted his more popular
rival Fikret Abdic), the strength of his position allows him to pursue
his youthful (pan)Islamic
dreams.

His internal and external policies changed tactfully as per the power
struggle both inside and
outside of Yugoslavia. But, from a strategic standpoint Izetbegovic has
not budged an inch from
his early conception that "every good Muslim, through his formal
engagement, including the
political one, at all times and all places, must above all serve Islam,
by force if necessary".

Because of Izetbegovic's anti-Communism, the fundamentalist radicalism
of the political
programme contained in the ISLAMIC DECLARATION, went virtually unnoticed
in most western
countries.

As such, the rise of a native and authentic Islamic fundamentalist
movement in Yugoslavia, was
for the West, up until recently, an incomprehensible and inconceivable
idea. For some, it remains
so today.

This fanatical conviction of Izetbegovic - namely that the highest
motive justifies every move,
every decision, (including that of disposing of his predecessors), has
definitely helped plunge
Bosnia into the midst of an ethnic and religious war.

Summary

Only after one carefully considers the foregoing does it become
understandable why, recently,
Izetbegovic signed an agreement for the "cantonisation" of Bosnia with
representatives of the
European Community in Lisbon, and cancelled it two days later.
Izetbegovic will accept any kind
of deal in order to get his way - he is not ashamed if it is proved that
he lies, because he says "all
is allowed for Islam".

Now it seems logical why Izetbegovic visited only radical Muslim
countries during the first nine
months of his presidency. Izetbegovic is a man who is willing to
sacrifice half of the population to
achieve his religious goals - to be the first president of an Islamic
state in Europe - however
small.

In the light of above facts one can better understand Izetbegovic's
statements of sympathy for the
"Islamic Revolution" in Iran.

Only Izetbegovic and Ayatollah Khomeini, out of all presidents who
officially visited Turkey, did
not pay respect to the grave of Ataturk - for them he was a traitor of
fundamentalist Muslim
principles.

December 1992

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MUJAHIDEEN RESIST EVICTION

Foreign Affairs Breaking News Announcement Keywords: BOSNIAN MUJAHIDEEN
TERRORISTS
Author: Janez Kovac
Posted on 07/22/2000 05:56:42 PDT by BlackBird-Kosovo1389
MUJAHIDEEN RESIST EVICTION The planned eviction of mujahideen in
northern
Bosnia is threatening to turn into a major crisis.

Showing they mean business, the new moderate leadership in the northern
town of Maglaj recently sought to remove one of the biggest problems in
the region - mujahideen and their families.

The Islamic fundamentalists living in the remote village of Bocinja
Donja
are being forced to hand their homes over to their original occupants -
Bosnian Serbs.

The improved security and political situation in Bosnia has this year
led
to a significant increase in refugee returns. More than 15,000 have been
repatriated in the first six months of 2000, three times more than in
the
same period last year.

Evictions of those who occupy refugees' homes often provokes anger,
tears.
Its very mention brought about a crisis in Bocinja. Locals blocked a
main
road through the region for three days. Police eventually ended the
protest, arresting and later releasing 19 people, including several
mujahideen. The real problems, however, are likely to begin when police
start evicting the Bocinja residents.

Before the war, Bocinja was home to some 3,000 Bosnian Serbs. After the
conflict, it hit the headlines when the Bosnian Muslim leadership
allowed
a group of foreign and local mujahideens to move into the abandoned Serb
houses.

During the war, some of these Islamic fighters fought alongside the
Muslim-led government forces. When the fighting came to an end, some of
them married local women and were granted Bosnian citizenship and
accommodation, in recognition of their contribution to the war effort.

The scale of their contribution, however, has long been debated.
Bosnians
claimed that many foreign mujahideen avoided combat. They suspect they
only came here to gather intelligence or train and plot terrorist and
criminal activities.

The existence of a mujahideen community in the heart of Europe was a
constant worry for western, especially American, diplomats. In 1996 and
1997, they persuaded Bosnian Muslim leader, Alija Izetbegovic, to expel
several of those with criminal records.

At least 300 Islamic fighters, their local followers and women and
children, remained in Bocinja, where they lived separate lives
untroubled
by local police, tax-collectors or any other authorities. Outsiders
never
set foot in the small community.

Every so often, stories of mujahideen harassing "unbelievers" in local
towns appeared in the press. Several were alleged to have been involved
in
criminal or terrorist activities both in and outside Bosnia. Worst of
all,
since the end of the war, the Islamists were never properly disarmed.
Local police, army, and even UN and NATO-led peacekeepers, were
reluctant
to search houses in Bocinja.(Aiding and abetting war-criminals, which is
what this situation sounds like

As a result of Bocinja's bad reputation, the Maglaj region received
little
international reconstruction aid. Many local firms and industries which
survived the war are now close to collapse because of the lack of funds.

The situation started to change after the April 8 local elections, when
the leading Bosnian opposition party, the Socialist Democratic Party
,SDP,
defeated the ruling Muslim nationalist SDA party in Maglaj.

Soon after taking up his new office, the new SDP mayor of Maglaj, Mehmed
Bradaric, said one of his first priorities was to evict mujahideen
families from Bocinja to facilitate the return of its former Bosnian
Serb
residents.

His statement prompted displaced Muslims living in two abandoned Serb
villages near Bocinja to set up roadblocks. UN and local police say that
mujahideen encouraged the protesters. They are said to have told them
that
once they are evicted the Maglaj authorities will remove refugees from
other villages to prepare the ground for the mass return of the pre-war
Bosnian Serb population.

The Maglaj authorities, meanwhile, were facing yet another problem -
their
own police. With the SDA still in power in the cantonal government and
interior ministry, local police were reluctant to intervene in the
unfolding Maglaj crisis, even after the municipal authorities proclaimed
a
state of emergency.

Consequently, a humanitarian and security problem also quickly became a
focus for political conflict between SDA and SDP. The Bocinja deadlock
eventually ended after Bosnia's top international mediator,the High
Representative, Wolfgang Petritsch, said he was holding Zenica canton
Interior Minister "personally responsible" for a speedy resolution of
the
crisis. The roadblocks were removed a day later.

Following negotiations between local, cantonal and federal authorities,
it
was agreed that local police would start evicting two local Muslim
households from Bocinja every day from July 24. "Foreign" mujahideen
would
be left to the end. Meanwhile, the federal government pledged two
million
German marks for the reconstruction of abandoned and devastated
apartments
in Maglaj, to accommodate those from Bocinja who have no where to go.

The one problem with the plan is that no one asked Mujahideen whether
they
agreed with it. Local analysts fear that some Islamic fighters might
choose to take the law into their own hands.

-

Bosnia's holy warriors ready to fight evictions

Special report: Serbia
Alix Kroeger in Sarajevo
Sunday July 23, 2000
The Observer

Bosnian police are preparing to take on one of the strangest and most
difficult legacies of the war - the Mujahideen who have settled in the
former Serb villages in central Bosnia.
Although a programme of deportation is not due to begin until tomorrow,
tensions are high and police have made arrests.
The Mujahideen originally came from Iran, Afghanistan and other Islamic
countries, offering their services as freelance freedom fighters
alongside the Muslim-dominated Bosnian government army. Most of Bosnia's
Muslims have little truck with the strict form of Islam practised by the
Mujahideen. Nevertheless, in the depths of the war, with a United
Nations arms embargo blocking most sources of weapons, the government
army asked no questions of anyone volunteering to help.
By rights, the Mujahideen should have gone home four years ago. The
Dayton peace accord, which was signed in December 1995, ordered all
foreign forces to leave the country within a month. However, many of the
Mujahideen now have Bosnian citizenship.
After the war the former holy warriors settled in the villages around
Maglaj, in central Bosnia. The area was Serb-dominated before the war,
but by 1996 the local Serbs had fled or been killed, victims of ethnic
cleansing. Many of the Mujahideen married Bosnians and lived undisturbed
with their new families in other people's houses.
But with a sudden increase in the number of refugee returns, that's
about to change. This year the logjam has broken, and people are
returning to their homes in greater numbers than ever before. Between
January and May of this year, more than 15,000 refugees went back to
their homes. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
is struggling to keep up with the demand for assistance.
At the same time the international community is renewing its efforts to
get Bosnia's property laws implemented. This means getting local
authorities to evict illegal occupants, thus freeing houses for their
rightful owners to return.
Among those wanting to return are the displaced Serbs of Bocinja, near
Maglaj, one of the main centres of the Mujahideen. The displaced Serbs
are ready to go back for good.
The UNHCR spokeswoman in Sarajevo, Barbara Smith, described Bocinja as a
'difficult area for returns'. As of the end of May, only 57 people had
gone back this year. The scene is set for a confrontation between local
police and Mujahideen.
Last week local media reports that evictions were due to begin led
people around Bocinja to set up two roadblocks. The International Police
Task Force (IPTF), which has been monitoring the situation, reported 40
to 50 people on the roadblocks. In fact, evictions are not due to begin
until tomorrow. Nevertheless, it took the local police three days to
move in and dismantle the barricades. Nineteen people were arrested,
including several described as 'foreigners or Mujahideen'.
The first people to be evicted will be displaced Serbs and Muslims who
are also living around Bocinja. They will be taken out of their houses,
along with their belongings, and moved to temporary accommodation
elsewhere. But the Mujahideen know they are also on the list, and it is
that which is likely to lead to further disturbances.
No one knows exactly how many Mujahideen there are, but most estimates
put their numbers at 60 to 70 families. Their presence hasn't always
been trouble-free. Last year police in Turkey arrested a man travelling
on a Bosnian passport who was said to be a member of the terrorist
organisation run by the exiled Saudi fundamentalist Osama bin Laden.
The International Crisis Group, a think tank which produces regular
reports on Bosnia, says the Mujahideen are a 'source of potential
political and ethnic instability in central Bosnia'. In 1994 a British
aid worker was killed around Zenica, allegedly by Mujahideen. And in
early 1996, French S-For troops raided a camp in the hills outside
Fojnica, where they found explosives and booby-traps. The director of
the ICG, James Lyon, said the base 'bore all the signs of a terrorist
training camp'.
The new moves to get rid of the Mujahideen mark a shift in tactics.
They're no longer being dealt with as illegal foreign forces; instead,
they're considered as squatters. The IPTF said last week's roadblocks
appeared to be 'a co-ordinated attempt to halt the evictions process in
Bocinja'.
Oleg Milisic, spokesman for the Office of the High Representative, which
oversees the implementation of the Dayton accord, said: 'This is not a
political issue. It is an issue of the law and citizens' rights to their
property. Property rights must be respected as part of the returns
process now under way across the whole of Bosnia and Herzegovina.'

-

Tuesday, 18 July, 2000, 19:48 GMT 20:48 UK
Mujahideen fight Bosnia evictions

By Alix Kroeger in Sarajevo
About 80 people in central Bosnia are manning road blocks around a
village
where evictions from illegally occupied properties were reported to be
imminent.

The villages are largely occupied by Mujahideen, ex-soldiers from
Islamic
countries, who came over to fight for the Muslim dominated Bosnian army
during the war.

Many of them have settled in villages around the municipality of Maglai,
and
are now living illegally in Serb-owned houses.

The evictions are part of a renewed effort to free up properties for the
return of their rightful owners.

The roadblocks went up on Monday afternoon following media reports that
the
evictions would start on Tuesday morning.

Although these reports are incorrect - evictions are not due to begin
until
next week - 40-50 people, mainly women and children, blocked two roads
into
the village of Bochinja near Maglai.

After two hours of negotiations, the road blocks were lifted, but by
Monday
evening they were back in place, manned by greater numbers.

Open secret

The local assembly met in emergency session on Monday night, but the
United
Nations mission to Bosnia said both the minister of the interior for the
municipality and his deputy were absent and out of contact.



The Mujahideen fought for the pro-muslim Bosnian army


The presence of the Mujahideen, who come mainly from Afghanistan and
Pakistan, is something of an open secret in Bosnia.

They are not supposed to be there, but they are.

Under the Dayton Peace Accord all foreign fighters except the
stabilisation
force S-For were supposed to leave by January 1996.

Instead many of the Islamic fighters have stayed, settling in villages
in
central Bosnia and starting families.

Renewed effort

Most live illegally in houses vacated by local Serbs fleeing fighting
which
swept through the area during the war from 1992 to 1995.

Now the international community is making a renewed effort to implement
the
property laws, with the evictions of illegal occupants to make way for
the
rightful owners to return.

There are still over a million displaced people in Bosnia many of them
are
unable to return home, because someone else, often a displaced person
themselves, is living in their house.

The UN described the situation as a coordinated attempt to prevent
illegally
occupied property being returned to its rightful owners.

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Interview with Halid Causevic, by Nerzuk Curak

Halid Causevic is a brilliant colocutor. It is hard to agree with a
large
number of his scientific and political theses (even absolutely
impossible
with some) but his methodology and elaboration of the claims is
convincing
and devoid of any hypocrisy. This liberal Bosnian intellectual, who
likes to
say for himself that he is only a journalist whose field of interest is
mostly related to the sociology of religion and constitutional law, in
the
exclusive interview for Dani, the first one after several years of
silence,
talks about president Izetbegovic, SDA, Latic, reis Ceris, relationship
between Islamic community and the ruling party... In the legal analysis
of
the current situation in Bosnia-Hercegovina, a son of distinguished reis
Dzemaludin Causevic doesn't flinch from stating a politically and
legally
indefensible claim: the war in Bosnia-Hercegovina was a religious and
civil
war and not an aggression.

Mr. Causevic, in the past you were among the closest friends of Mr.
Izetbegovic, but in the mean time your political views have dramatically
diverged. Why?

It's very simple: I was and remain Izetbegovic's friend because of a
simple
reason that we were colleagues. We saw each other in meetings, but I
could
never accept his views. For example, he was an orthodox Muslim, actually
a
Muslim who goes beyond orthodoxy, while I have always viewed the whole
thing
fairly liberally. Because of that our friendship was pretty cool. We saw
each
other, talked, but we never touched upon those topics which would have
been
interesting for him, and that is Islamization of [Bosnian] Muslims. That
was
out of question because he knew that my views on that topic are
extremely
liberal. Especially after I read his Islamic Declaration, which is
fundamentally unacceptable; even before the war I told him: Alija, what
are
you doing? With such actions we won't get anywhere in Europe. Simply, at
some
point, we'll be thrown out of the small piece of Europe where we live
today.
That's the point.

How did Izetbegovic react to those words?

He said: that is my view and I cannot change my opinion. That was years
ago
and I don't remember his exact words but that was the gist of what he
said.
Later, when I received his manuscript Islam between East and West for
review
from Gazi Husrev Bey's library, I almost fainted. Perhaps you already
know
about this: his attitude was that Islam must place its economic policy
between capitalism and current socialist doctrine. I met him after that,
next
to the Car's bridge and said: Alija, do you understand that there is no
doctrine in Islam? Which religion has its doctrine? Catholic church
established its social catholicism and what happened to it? The economic
doctrine follows its direction and it doesn't have respect for religion,
nor
a man, nothing and nobody. It has its direction and he (Izetbegovic,
author's
remark) believes that zakat, i.e. alms, should be interpolated between
capitalism and socialism. Then, I told him: do you know what zakat is?
According to Islam that is two percent of capital in circulation and
gold
reserves. In that case we would walk hungry, the state couldn't exist.
Does
Saudi Arabia use that system? Of course not, he responded, we would have
to
experiment. There are no experiments in economics. The economics has its
strict rules and if you tell me that zakat is the economics of Islam,
you
should know that I would recommend against the publication of your book.
And
it wasn't published in Gazi Husrev Bey's library. During the war, it was
published by "Svjetlost" and, to tell the truth, I didn't have money to
buy
it.

It seems Mr. Causevic, that we are witnessing some social processes
which, in
my opinion, are counterproductive. When I say that, I am referring to
unproductive unity of nation and religion among Bosniaks. It seems that
the
symbiosis between the ruling party and the Islamic community is the
result of
that.

There are very few nations which were not in the past based on religion.
That
is certain. However, that connection breaks at some point. Here in
Bosnia it
is still unclear what Muslims are as a social group: are they a people,
a
nation or a religious community? What is a nation? It is the
consciousness
about existence in a certain territory. There is no such consciousness
among
Muslims in Bosnia. There is only the consciousness about religious
affiliation. Therefore the Muslims still haven't evolved from a people
into a
nation. That is most important. Therefore, if among the Muslims there is
no
consciousness about belonging to a nation, there can be no nation.


Nationhood Requires More
Are you referring to Muslims in general, or specifically Bosnian
Muslims?
Muslims in Bosnia-Hercegovina. They are still a sociological dilemma.
Their
genesis is absurd. Other nations had linear development: tribe- people-
nation. On the other hand, Muslims developed from Illyrian proselytism
to
Islam, therefore, not from a tribe. After that they passed through the
whole
Ottoman period as a religious community of Bosniaks. Today we have a
dilemma:
are we a people or a religious community? As you know, people is a
community
of similar individuals with similar world view who hail from the
collection
of similar tribes. We are not that. Muslims have totally different
history,
unlike Serbs, Croats and everyone else. Croats hail from a group of
tribes,
Serbs as well, Macedonians also; we Muslims hail from a Bogumil
religious
community, we converted into an Islamic religious community and
continued
that life during 450 years of Ottoman administration. We continued like
that
during Austria-Hungary and all our political life gravitates around
various
"Muslim organizations". All our parties are Muslim. None of them is
without
the word Muslim in its name. If that is so, then we have to at first
investigate from the sociological point of view whether Muslims are
still in
transition from a religious community or whether they have already
become a
people. They are definitively not a nation, because much more is needed
for a
nation. A nation requires consciousness about its territory, its people,
its
state and its status in certain region.

Does SDA as a ruling Bosniak party contribute to the fact that Bosniaks
are
still not a nation?

In that respect SDA is counterproductive. Because of a simple reason
that SDA
is a typical clerical party. As such it is not capable of wider
activity. SDA
above all failed to resolve the problem: what are the Muslims? SDA
transformed them into Bosniaks which is an even greater mistake. Alija
did
that against the Constitution. The constitution didn't allow him to do
it in
the way he did in 1993. Also, what are Bosniaks? It is a regional term.

I cannot agree with you. What is then our national consciousness? What
are we?

In our consciousness, we are Muslims.

But Muslims are not a nation.

That doesn't matter. No one is asking about that. We, Muslims, are still
in a
sort of a dilemma - are we transforming from a religious community into
a
nation, or are we still a religious community. That is the essence. See
how
closely the Islamic religious community and political parties
collaborate.
The president of the republic appoints reisul-ulema, they collaborate,
hold
rallies together etc. That's how it was during the old Yugoslavia. Spaho
fully collaborated with the Islamic religious community. We still
haven't
cleared up whether Muslims are a people or a religious community. As
I've
already said, they are definitely not a nation.


Plain Political Blindness
Well, then, according to you, what is the spiritual backbone of the
Bosniak
people?
Islam is the spiritual backbone of the Bosnian, i.e. Muslim people.
Don't
take me wrong, I am not a cleric. On the contrary, I am miles away from
any
sort of Islamism, but if one talks to the people, it is easy to see that
Islam connects them. The war is the best example. Let me add that this
was a
religious civil war. Mosques and churches were demolished, priests of
all
faiths destroyed... The war followed exactly that path, which means that
Bosnia-Hercegovina still hasn't matured to become a multi-religious,
multi-national and multi-ethnic state as is frequently mentioned. We are
still deeply divided. For example, in the Federation Bosnia-Hercegovina
there
are two states. Croatian HVO state and a Muslim state led supposedly by
Alija.

Wait a moment Mr. Causevic! If you say that the war in
Bosnia-Hercegovina was
a civil and a religious conflict, that suits pro-Serb assertions; in
other
words, doesn't that counter the assertion that the war was the Serb
aggression against Bosnia-Hercegovina as was even clearly defined by a
UN
resolution?

Let me tell you something. An aggression is something completely
different
from a religious and civil conflict. Don't forget the reason for this
war:
the declaration of Bosnian independence by two peoples, Croats and
Muslims.
It is the fact that Article 2 in the then Constitution of
Bosnia-Hercegovina
explicitly states: Bosnia-Hercegovina is a commonwealth of three
peoples,
Muslims, Serbs and Croats. A commonwealth cannot be dissolved by two of
the
nations, Croats and Muslims. Serbs accepted that as a cause for war.
What is
even worse (that is the greatest Alija's mistake): Bosnia-Hercegovina
was
full of Serb soldiers and he declared the independent Bosnia. Only a man
without connection to the reality could have done something like that.

You believe that he should have accepted the historical agreement with
Serbs
which was initiated by Zulfikarpasic and Filipovic?

That was, more or less, an unrealistic political move. In my opinion, we
should have accepted reality and continued our existence within the rump
Yugoslavia, while Croats could have annexed western Hercegovina. We
would
remain within Yugoslavia until the definite break up some time in the
future.
However, this way, we paid dearly. Two hundred thousands of our best
youth,
70 percents of cultural treasures destroyed... Was that worth the
present
Bosnia-Hercegovina, which we could have had both with Vance-Owen and
Owen-Stoltenberg plans? Alija signed both of those plans in 1993 once he
saw
what he got us into with the war. Politics is the art of possible, not
of
desired. And we tried to follow our desires. We wanted to establish some
sort
of an independent Bosnia-Hercegovina but that is an absurdity. Croats
could
do that because they had Western support. Slovenians especially, nobody
gave
a damn about Macedonians. Having all that in mind, we should have waited
for
an appropriate moment and then, once we got support in Europe, seceded
from
Yugoslavia.

Therefore, you would have accepted that we remain slaves within the Serb
empire?!

Above all, we would not have been slaves of any sort. Our advantage
would be
the connection via Sandzak corridor with Macedonia and Montenegro. That
is
not slavery; the talk about slavery is ordinary demagoguery. We would
simply
increase our population in Serbia and Yugoslavia and then, once we
became a
nation in the real sense of that word, we would secede from the
so-called
Yugoslavia. At that point there would not be any problems, but at the
time
when Mladic had a whole armada here and we only certain Vikic to fight a
war
against the Serbs, that was an ordinary political blindness!


Journalistic Primitivism
You are simply forcing me to ask you whether, in your opinion,
Izetbegovic's
role in history is positive or negative?
In my opinion, that Izetbegovic's action was a huge mistake (otherwise,
I
consider him to be an honest man and a friend). You know the old
Talleyrand's
wise words that a mistake is worse than a crime. And that is what Alija
did.
Why? He was surrounded by people without political experience. What can
you
expect from Behmen? Or a whole series of similar individuals? Among all
them
there was not a single person who could have said: Alija, wait a moment,
let
us see what we can achieve with the Serbs. In the end, take a look at
Oslobodenje from December 21 1991 and you'll find a speech by the
criminal
Karadzic where he says: "Wouldn't it be better if we made a
confederation of
three states: Serbs, Croats and Muslims, than to have hundreds and
hundreds
of thousands of dead, hundreds and hundreds of destroyed houses". If
you're
interested, I can show you a photocopy. That was not a prophecy, they
already
had a plan. By the way, I am the only person in Bosnia-Hercegovina who
doesn't watch TV, but that night, by chance, I was at my sister's place
and
saw that Alija sat like Rodin's thinker, alone. Croats representatives
were
standing on the other side (of course Croats had their own interests, I
understand them) and he suddenly called for a vote and all the Serb
representatives left the chamber. That was a death sentence to the
Muslims.
That's what I said to my sister; a few of my friends were also there. I
said,
this is a death sentence - December 21 1991.

You've just asserted that Izetbegovic lacks advisers with political
vision.
In that context, I must mention Demaludin Latic's article about Marko
Vesovic...

That is typical journalistic primitivism. That is a typical barbarism
with
clerical origin; Latic is a typical cleric. He and everyone in his
group.

How do you interpret the fact that after such a scathing and nationalist
attack, SDA didn't find it appropriate to react to such a spiritual
"descent"
of its important activist?

I was not surprised about SDA, because the party shares Latic's views.
Latic
is their ideologist and I find that normal. But, I can't understand why
these
Bogomils who have converted to Islam, that is the former Communists who
have
converted to Islam, turned into Bosniaks and became presidents of the
Association of Writers do not react but sit on the side and none of them
is
defending either side. They should have intervened. Latic would have
been
prosecuted anywhere in Europe for such an article.

Do such acts have elements of a crime?

They used to in the past, but do not any more. Consequently they allowed
Latic to write as he pleases. I've read his article Really Like a Vlach
:
even our journalists during Aurstria-Hungary, during their verbal war
with
Serbs, didn't write stuff like that. These are not offenses, nor
slanders, it
is a de facto attack on a whole nation, not only Vesovic.

Tell me, what do you think about Young Muslims and their activities?

Young Muslims, that is de facto an infection which came from the East.
It
arrived roughly from Iran where they wanted to form a generation of
young
people who would spread Islamic propaganda. That found a certain
response in
Bosnia-Hercegovina, with corresponding consequences. Look at those
ghosts
walking around the city ! In 21st century, in the center of Sarajevo
women
walk in those long dresses with covered faces. That is typical
Iranianism.
We, who as members of a Muslim national community should walk in step
with
Europe, are instead turning against Europe. When in 1993 I was asked why
foreigners hadn't intervened (Alija and Silajdzic were present) I said:
wait
until an appropriate amount of Muslim blood is spilled and then they
will
intervene. And that was printed as my lecture: "Anti-Islamic syndrome of
the
West against Muslims". That's what happened. Later, they came to
congratulate
me; they said, you had seen it a year and a half before.


Ajvatovica is Bogumil Holly Site
Help me to resolve a dilemma: although Islam is a universal religion, is
it
possible to speak about specific Bosnian Islam?
In general, Bosnian Islam doesn't exist. Islam is everywhere the same,
as is
Christianity. In Bosnian Islam there are a lot of traces of other
religions.
Here, Islam absorbed certain elements from Christianity, or even better,
from
Bogumils, from whom we took Ajvatovica and everything else.

You say that we accepted Ajvatovica from Bogumils?

Of course. That is a Bogumil religious site.

But that fact is totally ignored in today's political, traditional and
theological interpretation?

Remember that every religion is totalitarian. It doesn't want anything
that
belongs to someone else. That's it, all religions are totalitarian, not
only
Islam. The fact that it absorbs elements from other religions, it
couldn't
have been any different.

Do you think that a believer is morally superior to a non-believer?

In my opinion, morality is outside religion. Morality is a part of an
individual, his upbringing. If I was brought up to respect the moral
principle "love your neighbors, no matter who they are" I don't need a
religion for that. Therefore, conditionally, morality and religion do
not
have to intersect anywhere. Religion is not the only bearer of morality.
Philosophy also sets moral standards. The same can be true for politics,
if
it is real politics, although that is rare today. We know that, because
morality and politics often follow different paths.

I've read somewhere that only Bosnian Muslims have the institution of
reisul-ulema. Is that true?

Reisul-ulema dates from Austria-Hungary. During the Ottomans we had a
mufti
who was subordinate to the caliph in Carigrad [Istanbul]. However,
Austria
was much smarter, it tried to protect its interests. It wanted to
separate
the Muslims from the caliph. Therefore, they established a separate
religious
community lead by reisul-ulema from 1881. Reisul-ulema means the head of
ulema, the head of theologians. That how that was established and that
institution continued until today.

As far as I know, you deny legitimacy to reis-effendi Ceric. Why?

Reis Ceric has without doubt very good qualifications and was educated
both
in the East and the West. But he, in my opinion, I don't how he allowed
that
to happen, allowed that Alija appoint him for a naibu-reis, that is an
acting
reis. Beforehand, Alija had appointed ten individuals in the Assembly of
the
Islamic Community. But it is the tradition among the Muslims that the
Assembly must be elected. Alija appointed 10 of his men and they elected
Ceric for naibu-reis. Only a few month later, naibu-reis summoned his
five
muftis and told them: it would be good if you proclaimed me a
reisul-ulema.
And that's how he became the reis.

You don't accept that the conditions at the time demanded certain
irregular
interventions?

Not at all. For example, during WWII we didn't have a reis. There was
only
naibu-reis, a very learned man Salih Safvet effendi Basic, a professor
at the
Theology faculty. He was naibu-reis until the arrival of the Partisans
and
even a few years after that. Then, the Partisans used their methods to
form
the Assembly of the Islamic Community which, like it or not,
legitimately
elected new reis Fejic. And that's how it went until our days, until
Ceric's
election. I am surprised that Alija could have made such a mistake. But,
let
me repeat that Ceric is a learned man.

(...)

In your opinion, what is the reason for the conflict between Rijaset and
Ilmija?

Probably personal relations. That's worst among us. Both in the Islamic
Community leadership and in politics. These people demonstrated that
they
cannot accept Ceric's hasty political views and that they want to assert
separate identity as Muslims and continue to work as believers only. On
the
other hand, Ceric wants to sit in the first rows at the SDA party
congress.
That's trouble. He doesn't know that his photos are printed in papers. I
have
at least five articles of that sort. Please, Ajvatovica is the best
example:
Alija delivers a political speech, Ceric leads a prayer. I asked Alija:
where
was your brain, buddy? - I am his senior and can talk to him like that -
how
could you be so stupid? Ajvatovica is a religious event and you can go
there
as a believer, not to deliver political speeches. And Ceric could have
[delivered a speech].


State of Serb Soldiers
I would appreciate if you could answer several questions of legal and
political nature. Does Bosnia-Hercegovina exist as a state?
Speaking openly against all existing trends in politics,
Bosnia-Hercegovina
doesn't any more legally exist as a state. It is a confederation of the
Federation B-H and the Republic of Srpska. Only a little "legal feel" in
the
constitutional law is required to see that the Dayton Agreement cut
Bosnia-Hercegovina in two. However, that is not a terrible thing. When I
asked Alija's lawyers what sort of a state we were they replied: well,
we'll
see that during the evolution. That doesn't work. What are we now? Are
we an
empire, kingdom, or something third? If you say a confederation, then we
are
not a state. The confederation consists of two states which act together
in
some spheres. Take for example the Dayton Agreement, Article 2 or 3 (if
I'm
not mistaken): Bosnia-Hercegovina authorities are in charge of customs
etc.
All together six or seven spheres of activity. Everything else that is
not
listed in that article is under jurisdiction of the entities. Therefore,
these are two states. That's the way it was in Austria-Hungary. There
were
four or five common spheres: emperor and king, ministry of foreign
affairs,
ministry of finance and a few others, and everything else was under
Austrian
or Hungarian jurisdiction. You know, Austria-Hungary was a classic
example of
a confederation.

Are you concerned that Bosnia-Hercegovina could, like the
Austrian-Hungarian
confederation, fail as a historical product?

Any state can disappear. Therefore, Bosnia-Hercegovina can survive or
disappear as well. The Dayton Agreement divided us into two parts. In my
opinion, that is a superior trick which has split Bosnia-Hercegovina in
an
elegant way and made its ruin in the future inevitable.

Why are you such a pessimist?

I am not a pessimist; I only try to be realistic about the current
situation.
If someone convinces me that Bosnia-Hercegovina, the Federation and the
Republic of Srpska will stay together I will eat my words. What is the
Republic of Srpska in relation to the Federation? The Federation which
has,
it is terrible to say, 10 cantons, that's unbelievable, on 23,000 square
kilometers. A huge bureaucratic apparatus on one and the Republic of
Srpska
on the other side. I am not a pessimist; if someone can convince me that
all
of this will somehow merge in the future, I'll shake his hand and
apologize.

What if Bosnia-Hercegovina is placed under a foreign protectorate?

In that case it is hard to predict how long it would last and what its
goals
would be. There is already a de facto protectorate, and a legal
protectorate,
if introduced, would be the best solution for all three peoples,
although the
Serbs would be unbelievably angry. Croats would be a bit less angry and
we
Muslims wouldn't be angry at all. In my opinion Bosnia-Hercegovina can
only
survive under some sort of de facto or legal protectorate. When was
Bosnia-Hercegovina whole while left to itself? Never. The Ottomans held
it in
their hands, Austria-Hungary as well. As soon as the Kingdom of Serbs,
Croats
and Slovenes arrived Bosnia-Hercegovina begun to break into regions and
split
into two parts in 1939. One part drifted towards Serbia and the other
towards
Croatia. Therefore, under the rule of its own people, Bosnia-Hercegovina
must
break up. That is inevitable. Socialism held Bosnia forcefully in its
hands.

Doesn't the political existence of the medieval Bosnian state contradict
you?

Medieval Bosnia was a united Bosnia. There were no Serbs nor Croats
neither
Catholics nor Orthodox. It was the land of good Bosniaks.

Do you think, as a lawyer, that Bosnia-Hercegovina can win its suit
against
Serbia at the International Justice Court in the Hague?

If they win that case then Europe and the whole world would jump into
their
own belly. First, it must be proven where the aggression is and what it
is.
An aggression is an attack of one state on another. Where is the other
state
here?

Well, now you're making me mad. Serbia attacked us!

Serbia attacked who?

Bosnia-Hercegovina

Bosnia-Hercegovina didn't exist at the time.

How come, when we were recognized by the United Nations on April 6 1992?

Recognition still doesn't mean that a state exists. It also has to exist
in
practice. Bosnia didn't exist in practice. There was only a state of
Serb
soldiers.

I do not agree with you. Legally, Bosnia-Hercegovina was in 1992 a state
and
that is objectively enough for the existence of an aggression.

Legally, Bosnia-Hercegovina could have been recognized by as many states
as
you please. NDH was recognized by more than 30 states. A state, in order
to
be a state, must have three basic elements: territory, people and
government.
Bosnia-Hercegovina had none of the three elements. The state authorities
only
had control of Sarajevo and a few more cities.

So, you claim there was no aggression on Bosnia-Hercegovina?

Of course. This was a religious and civil conflict provoked by Alija's
imprudent actions. We had a chance to agree with Serbs and Croats and
divide
Bosnia into three parts so that it still remained whole in some way. As
a
confederation. What now? We paid with over 200,000 young lives, 70
percent of
our cultural heritage was destroyed and what do we have in the end? A
ruined
Bosnia divided into two parts.


Islam was Everywhere
Could you explain your sentence that religious nationalism is the main
factor
in the downfall of Bosnia-Hercegovina?
There is no real nationalism in our country. Religious nationalism de
facto
does not represent real nationalism but a reflection of religious
feelings.
Religious wars are the worst wars in the history of humanity. Such wars
took
place in Bosnia in the past. Please, could you have imagined that
someone
destroys our mosque and that we destroy someone's church? It is enough
to see
that and to know the character of the war. The goal was to destroy
symbols of
other religions.

It sounds as though you fully agree with Huntington and his theory about
clash of civilizations?

Well, he is almost right, although I do not want to apply a general
theory to
Bosnia. Bosnia is specific in its historical development. It is a state
with
three religions and, if you will, three peoples which were kept together
under the secret or open protectorate of external factors. Socialism was
a
protectorate over Bosnia.

You mean, a socialist protectorate?

Let it be socialist. But, let's say at that time you tried to destroy a
church or a mosque. That was a crime, punishable by 10 years in jail.

Did Islam do better in Communism or now when SDA is in power?

It is difficult to make such a comparison. It is the fact that after 45
years
of socialism Islam floated to the surface like Catholicism and Eastern
Orthodox Christianity. It is hard to destroy a religion. It is something
superhuman. The most important thing is that today we witness a new wave
of
Islamization as in 1463. Then Bogumils, after the arrival of the Turks,
en
masse converted to Islam. Today we have the same situation: mass
conversion
of Communists to Islam.

Has the participation of Islam in public life been beneficial or not?

Islam wasn't hidden under Communism. It was everywhere. Among
intellectuals,
individuals etc. It existed as a tradition in even the most orthodox
Communists. I know of such ministers, I have talked to them. When you
talk to
them, you can see their tradition lurking somewhere in the background,
regardless whether he is a Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Muslim.
Religious
tradition cannot be destroyed, and today when all the restrictions are
gone,
suddenly all of that has come to the surface. Islam reappeared from
those
intellectuals who supported different ideology; they were joined by
educated
Islamic priests.

I have a feeling that the International Community, lately, in order to
achieve reconciliation of peoples in Bosnia-Hercegovina, is increasingly
promoting senseless and unjust theory about equal guilt. What do you
think
about that?

In my opinion, that theory will be rejected by Serbs, Croats and
everyone
else in Bosnia. I think that we should seek a different idea which will,
if
we want that, connect us.

Do you believe in the existence of such an idea?

I don't know. It is difficult to find it at this point. After blood was
spilt
in Bosnia, it is hard to say, let us live together again. That will take
time
and I think that the West is correctly approaching that problem: they
are
holding Bosnia under a protectorate and will continue to do so until a
new
generation which will have forgotten everything, is mature. That is the
only
way. Otherwise, such a tragedy cannot be forgotten.

-

Last Days of "Paradise"

Dani, Sarajevo, Bosnia-Hercegovina, January 19 1998
by Dzenana Karup

During the war and several months into the post-war period, the village
of
Guca Gora was one of the main Mojahedeen bases in Bosnia. Bosniak
refugees,
who started to move into this village in 1993, say that about 300
foreign
Muslim warriors used to live there. The leader of this group was
renowned Abu
Hamza, the man for whom the Federal Police has been searching
unsuccessfully.
Dani visited Guca Gora and in a conversation with the locals learnt the
cruel
truth about "Arab totalitarianism" that suffocated their Bosnian soul
and the
right to live according to Bosnian laws. In this case, Mojahedeen were
not
fabricated by the western media: this is an unwritten story about a
reign of
terror that resulted in destroyed Bosnian youths who are trying to come
to
their senses in the prison in Zenica after months and years of training
according to Hamza's "rules of the game". In Guca Gora, there are no
more
Mojahedeen.

The village of Guca Gora, ten kilometers from Travnik, was the main
stronghold of Abu Hamza and his people for more than three years.
Immediately
after their arrival they imposed their lifestyle and introduced "Arab"
laws.
In practice that meant, recall the locals, that all of them had to
regularly
attend prayers [or "do namaz"; done five times a day, one of religious
duties
in Islam] and in "the Arab" way (every namaz consists of four rekjats),
women
had to be covered, children as well, swearing was not allowed and
contact
with kafirs [unbelievers] (Serbs or Croats) was also forbidden. No one
dared
contradict the chief of the village, Hamza. His men issued orders and
threats, beat up people, and basically introduced a reign of terror "in
the
name of Allah". They kept repeating that there were following Allah's
way.
They succeeded in their intentions for two reasons: fear and hunger. The
locals complied to avoid "disappearance" and to feed their children.

"For $100 and regular monthly assistance our children would leave front
lines
and switch to their unit," says an elderly man who still does not
understand
how come no one in the Army reacted to that type of desertion, although
an
autonomous and independent brigade was later formed from those youths
and
Mojahedeen. "I've never seen them fight anywhere. I respect the fighters
from
El-Mujaheed, I fought next to them, but these... It was obvious that
they
came here with a different goal," says one of the locals who is still
afraid
to reveal his name to journalists. The need to stay anonymous is a
general
characteristic in Guca Gora. These Bosniaks can hardly say a word. They
still
remember Hamza's men armed to the teeth with bombs, sniper rifles,
shoulder
held rocket launchers... The locals would rather be killed than
photographed.
Seventy-year-old grandmother, who used to be Hamza's next door neighbor
says:
"I would gladly tell you everything about that but he is not human, he
is a
devil. Look, even now, they caught everyone except for him. If he saw my
name
or picture in a newspaper he would immediately slaughter me." Her
neighbor,
shaking his head, adds: "They have a lot of followers. And who knows,
maybe
Hamza and the two Arabs who are still on the loose are still in the
area.
They know this area really well. They have lived here with us for
years."


The Place of Jihad
This was a Croat village before the war. Most of the Bosniaks who today
live
in Guca Gora settled there after Arabs, who told them that all the
houses in
the village were their because they had liberated them. Hence, the
refugees
had to ask for a permission to move to the village and the Arabs would
decide
who was to live where. A refugee from Jajce, one of the first arrivals
(even
today, most of the inhabitants of Guca Gora are originally from Jajce)
remembers that period: "There were about 300 of them. They kept coming
and
leaving. About 50 Arabs used to live here with women and children. We
have
recognized on TV all those caught by our Police. I do not know their
names,
they were difficult to pronounce and remember. We called them Arabs. The
first thing they did in the village was to build a mosque in a converted
Croat stable. They did namaz there, while they kept bones of the pigs
they
had killed upon the arrival to the village on the first floor.
Everything,
all the main meetings, took place in the mosque."
Arabs told the locals that they were invited to Bosnia-Hercegovina to
fight.
To the question about who invited them, one local replies: "That's what
we
wanted to know as well. They said: ' Alija Izetbegovic. Exactly like
Karadzic
invited Russians'." These men, says one of the locals who were in close
contact with them, were cheated. They were promised houses and land in
Bosnia. "Most of them had not lived in Arab countries before the arrival
to
Bosnia. They said that they go wherever there is Jihad. Most of them
were not
true Muslims, but converted Christians. There were even a few converted
Jews.
Hamza told me that. Once, I heard one of them call on prayer and I found
it
suspicious that he made many pauses and had trouble with pronunciation.
I
found out that he was born Roman Catholic. Hamza is a real Muslim, born
in
Tunisia. However, he left Tunisia nine years ago. I asked him why he did
not
return to his country and he replied that he would immediately be
killed. I
did not dare ask any more questions."

The most important task of the Arabs, as they emphasized themselves, was
to
recruit young Bosniaks to their ranks. After various courses to which
they
were sent, these young men would become religious fanatics and would
reject
their own parents "in the name of Allah". They would tell everyone that
only
they were right and everyone else was wrong. An elderly woman, who
regularly
attended Hamza's mosque ("I had to, I had nothing to eat"), remembers
that he
once said: "There are about 25,000 Arabs in Bosnia. Now we only need to
recruit as many Bosnians and then we shall form a Corps. The Army of
Bosnia-Hercegovina will then see who we are. We shall rule Bosnia. You
will
have to cover yourself. If you refuse, we shall kill you." This woman is
covered but, as the majority of Bosnian elderly women, only with a
kerchief
tied below her neck, and that was not sufficient. The elderly woman has
this
to say about Hamza's success in his intention to "recruit young men":
"They've misled the people. Look at them now, the prison is full of
them.
Hamza's Army!"


Halal Only to Bosnia
The only person who openly talks about everything that took place in
Guca
Gora is Mustafa Pracalic. Born in 1948 in Jajce, he came to Guca Gora
with a
wife and two sons in 1993. "That was a huge mistake," he says in a quiet
voice. Mustafa's son Samir was arrested in recent actions of the Police
together with other Arab terrorists and domestic Mojahedeen. Pracalic
says
that Samir participated three months ago in an abduction of a car with a
young man and a woman, both Croats. A youth from Namila and an Arab were
jailed together with Samir because of the same act.
"This is a huge shame for me," Mustafa continues with downcast eyes.
"This is
a strong comparison, but when my younger son was killed in Jajce, he was
16.
I placed him with my own hands in a grave. However, this was much more
difficult." Hamza, claims Pracalic, managed to take his son away from
home
when he was only 18. "I know that my son is guilty, but is his guilt the
same
as theirs? I do not want to meddle in judicial matters but the main
organizer
lived here for three years and no one touched him nor knew anything
about his
intentions. I cannot understand that. I served for four years in the
Army and
I did that for Bosnia, no one else. But inside me, there was a worse war
against the Arabs, than the one fought on the front lines. They wanted
to
take my younger son away as well. Fortunately, he was still a minor and
I
could control him. I couldn't do anything with the elder son, he was
already
an adult." Mustafa Prcalic went several times to the Police, wrote
complaints, tried to warn about what was going on, but: "No one
listened, and
on few occasions they even refused to see me at the Police station. The
Arabs
recruited youths aged 18 to 20, those who were the easiest to mislead. I
cannot accept that to this day. That could have been prevented. These
people
should have been controlled and someone should have paid attention to
who
deals with our youth."

About the crime of his son Samir he says the following: "An Arab with a
long
beard came together with a covered woman and asked for Samir. Hamza had
already left the village and I was hoping that they would leave Samir
alone.
However, the Arab said that he was the new chief of their organization
in the
Balkans and that he wanted to give Samir some packages, left over from
the
previous year". They really brought the packages. "They were bringing
all
sorts of stuff for full two days: meat, flour..." Months before that
Samir
had to wear his grandmother's shoes because he had no money. He left
with the
Arab and was gone for five days. "That's when it happened. Later he
showed up
in new shoes and clothing and I asked him where he got that. He said: 'I
found a job. I traveled with my new boss all over Bosnia. We found
humanitarian aid that was hidden by others'." That evening there were
news on
the TV that unknown attackers had abducted a car with Croats. Two days
later,
Samir was arrested. His wife said that in jail Samir confessed to
everything
and that Arabs would kill him when he gets out.


"Hamza is not a man, he is a terrorist"
His parents could not have contact with Samir from the time he joined
the
Arabs. He was immediately sent to Zenica to some sort of their school.
His
mother went to visit him. When she returned, she said: "Our Samir is
gone."
Mustafa remembers his son's return: "He was a totally different child.
He
could not hold a normal conversation any more. He became extremely
religious,
a fanatic. Even I had to be careful about what I said in front of him.
The
training took 45 days. I asked him what they had done there. He said
that
there had been a TV and that they had watched the real truth. And they
watched programs about the war in Afganistan and struggle on the way of
Allah." After this, the Arabs sent Samir for 45 days to practical
military
training to Orasac. And then his wife went to ders, which is what they
called
training for women, also in Orasac. When she came back she was wrapped
in
black from her head to the toes. She couldn't talk to any males, not
even
with Samir's father and brother. Mustafa told to his wife: "This is what
Hamza has brought to us. As soon as Samir joined them, Hamza married
him.
Hamza conducted the ceremony himself, in a religious manner, according
to
sharia. How can Hamza marry someone when only imams can do that!?
However, he
conducted marriages and convinced children that it had to be done that
way."
The Arabs tried to send Samir to Saudi Arabia and gave him money to
obtain
the necessary documents. When his father found out he managed to prevent
that. Mustafa was afraid that Samir would be later sent to Afganistan or
to a
different war.
Besides, the story about Samir's recruitment reveals that the Arabs are
very
skillful in that. First they "work" on the parents. When they tried to
prevent the departure of "the misguided son" Hamza began to visit the
house
with threats - since they were against "the followers of Allah". Mustafa
has
numerous examples for what these followers were like and what they did.
Here
is one of them: "They were trying to convince my wife to leave her job
with
the Bosnian Army. They said that they would give her every month 50kg of
flour and aid packages, if only she stopped feeding bandits. I guess I
am a
bandit too, since I fought with that army."

Mustafa is not the only person who had problems because of disagreement
with
the Arabs. The collective tragedy of Guca Gora spread from the young to
the
old, although the former were in a more difficult position as is
illustrated
by "the village-dance case" told by several people in the tape-recorder
of
this journalist: "Hamza is not a man, he is a terrorist. Once, a dance
was
organized in the neighboring village of Krpeljica. Young people gathered
to
have some fun. The Arabs found out and went there. They chased everyone
away,
broke all the musical instruments, wounded a girl and beat up one of the
men
so badly that he suffered concussions. Both he and the girl ended up in
a
hospital: she was released after a treatment, but the boy had to stay in
the
hospital. The following day, Hamza went to the hospital, threw him out
of the
bed and chased him home, claiming that he was fine. The director of the
hospital and the Police were there. Why did not they intervene?"

Hamza and his followers are gone. During the last year, Hamza visited
the
village several times. During the summer, he had a house built for
himself in
the village of Kokici, near a dense forest, so that he could easily
escape if
SFOR attacks him. Several young men from Guca Gora helped Hamza to build
the
house, although they claim that they did that for money rather than
because
of ideological reasons. The Police was at the time looking for Hamza.
The
quality of their search is indicated by the fact that the mentioned men
were
not even questioned about Hamza's whereabouts. The men did not make an
effort
to turn Hamza in. In Guca Gora, there are no Mujahedeen any more.



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Be Good With IFOR and Die
Hamza's men especially hated members of the international armed forces.
Because of that, every villager who would show good will toward IFOR
soldiers
would risk getting in trouble. The Pracalic family had problems because
of
that as well. One day, five foreign soldiers and a translator passed by
Mustafa's house and asked for a coffee. Mujahedeen were sitting across
the
street and watching all of that. When the soldiers left one of them took
out
a knife and shouted to Mustafa: "I am going to slaughter you tonight."
To
Mustafa's question why, he responded: "What are kafirs doing in front of
your
house?" After that threat Fikreta Prcalic, Mustafa's wife, went to visit
her
mother. The mentioned Mojahedeen spit at her and told her: "Kafir woman,
you
are walking around uncovered and are letting other kafirs enter your
house,"
and they threatened her mother: "We shall kill your daughter." The poor
woman
asked them: "Totally?" to which they responded "Totally". Fortunately,
the
threat was not fulfilled.


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Story About Sara
Mojahedeen married Bosniak girls. When the Police began looking for
them,
those who were not caught escaped. All of them left wives and children
behind. Who is going to feed them now, wonder the villagers. Hamza has
four
children. His wife lives somewhere near Zenica. However, not all of them
found wives in Bosnia. Some of them brought wives with them. Jusuf, one
of
them, came from the Netherlands and brought a wife, Sara, an American of
Croatian origin. Namely, Sara's father left Croatia long time ago and
emigrated to the USA, where Sara was born. However, while he was with
the
military in the Netherlands he liked it so much that he brought his
family
over to Europe. Sara told the women from the village that aged 12 she
left
her family and became a vagrant. Somewhat later she met Jusuf who
converted
her to Islam and married her. She had been married for nine years before
coming to Bosnia. Aged 19, she had an enviable experience as a
homemaker. In
Bosnia, she gave birth to her first child. Before converting to Islam,
Jusuf
was a Jew and is Sara's senior by 20 years.
One of the women from the village told us this about Sara: "Hamza
recruited
his next door neighbor and another refugee to work on the reconstruction
of
the school. He told them to take soil from Jusuf's yard. It was about
noon. I
was cooking when something little appeared at the door. I only saw a
gun: it
was Sara. She said she was going to shoot. I said: 'Why do you want to
kill
me, what have I done to you!' She said that she was going to kill two
men,
next to her house. I said 'Who is going to come close to your Arab house
at
this time, when they don't dare get near it even at night?' We got out,
I
first, she behind me. Fortunately, all the men were in the mosque. She
pointed out baked soil that someone had been taking away. I said, 'Sara,
it's
not their fault. Hamza ordered them to fix the school.' I was shaking.
As
soon as the prayer finished, I hurried and found those two guys. I
called
them: 'Alaga, Mujo, why did you go in on your own? Sara was going to
shoot
you!'"



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Alagic a Target
Forty year old refugee from Jajce told us this story: "Alija and Tudman
agreed to from a federation. But the Mojahedeen did not like that.
Everything
turned to better, Bosniak forces were liberating Bosnia. One night I
went to
Hamza's house and his wife, Halima, skinny and hardly taller than a yard
[literally "a yard and a razor blade tall"], told me: 'If I knew at what
time
Alagic [Bosnian Army General] passes through the village (towards a
Roman
Catholic monastery that was guarded by the Bosnian Army, auth. rem.) I
would
kill him myself'. I told her: 'You would kill Alagic! You can't even
walk
around your own house.' I also asked her why Alagic bothered her. She
said:
'He advocates inter-ethnic tolerance'. I saw where this was going and
shut
up." By the way, according to this woman, out of spite, during the worst
fighting in Komar, Hamza pulled young men from the front with an excuse
that
they had to go to the mosque or to prepare for school in Zenica: "May
devil
destroy both them and their Arab school! What have they brought to
Bosnia!"


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DOVEROSA PRECISAZIONE:

> Dear friends,
>
> The website you listed in a recent communication, namely www.compuserb.com
> run by pribich is a pro-fasicst website, most harmful.
>
> from http://home1.gte.net/pribich/cccc/voxtxt2.txt
> <http://home1.gte.net/pribich/cccc/voxtxt2.txt>
> related texts thru http://home1.gte.net/pribich/cccc/voxcovr1.htm
> <http://home1.gte.net/pribich/cccc/voxcovr1.htm
>
> This is not to deny the authenticity of the texts you published on the
> fascist-Islamist position of the Isetbegovic regime. But Pribich is a
> ferocious antisemite and most dangerous.
>
> Best regards,
> jared Israel
> www.emperors-clothes.com


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MUSICA ITALIOTA PER UNA BUONA CAUSA


La migliore musica pop dell'Italia fascista e' stata raccolta in un CD
per consentire la sopravvivenza della scuola di musica di Sarajevo, che
dopo le devastazioni collegate allo sfascio della Jugoslavia unitaria -
quando tutti avevano libero accesso gratuito ai corsi di musica - e' ora
minacciata di requisizione da parte dei preti cattolici.
Finira' anche qui come a Mostar, dove per finanziare un ente teatrale
hanno organizzato megaconcerti coinvolgendo pure Pavarotti, ma i soldi
alla fine sono finiti nelle tasche di qualche mafioso profittatore di
guerra?


"Abbassa la tua radio"
Esce il 2 cd prodotto per finanziare il Liceo di Musica di Sarajevo
GUIDO FESTINESE

Peppe Servillo degli Avion Travel intona con roca e
divertita partecipazione il brano che Gabriella Ferri
preferiva far squillare come un richiamo: Dove sta Zazà?.
La voce grintosa e argentina di Irene Grandi propone
Silenzioso slow, e le fanno sponda la tromba poetica del
più grande jazzista italiano, Enrico Rava, e il pianoforte
del giovane che da alcuni anni viene segnalato come miglior
talento nei referendum specializzati, Stefano Bollani. Rava
lo si ritrova anche in duo con Bollani, per Baciami
piccina. E poi c'è Elio che, non pago di aver imparato a
cantare "a tenore" con i gruppi sardi qui sfodera una
degnissima grinta di tenore per una surreale Parlami
d'amore Mariù.
Javier Girotto, sassofonista argentino sublime degli Aires
Tango non sembra provare il minimo imbarazzo a improvvisare
su Quell'uccellin che vien dal mare. Tutto questo, e molto
altro materiale attizza-memoria si trova in Abbassa la tua
radio/Omaggio alla musica italiana degli anni '30 e '40. Un
cd (ed. Ermitage) in questi giorni in edicola con un
fascicolo che raccoglie illustrazioni d'epoca e uno
splendido testo curato da Giancarlo Governi, tratto dal
volume Tu musica divina. Tutti gli arrangiamenti sono di
Bollani, che in un brano di spettacolare efficacia, Conosci
mia cugina, si diverte a cantare in perfetto stile crooner.
Il singolare sodalizio fra la parte più creativa del jazz
italiano e nomi scelti della musica leggera non serve solo
al gioco dei ricordi di quando, per dirla con Alberto
Sordi, la radio si ascoltava "seduti davanti, come a
teatro", né celebra i fasti un po' ingialliti di una bella
stagione delle note italiane, in cerca di mille guizzi per
sfuggire la cappa asfittica delle commissioni d'ascolto
dell'Eiar (mentre i Mussolini a casa loro ascoltavano
invece a volontà il "jazz negroide", proibendolo agli altri
italiani). "Abbassa la tua radio" è il secondo capitolo
discografico dedicato alla raccolta di fondi per il Liceo
di Musica di Sarajevo: il primo episodio di tre anni fa con
la partecipazione di Lucio Dalla, "Notte di luna calante"
ha già fruttato la riparazione dei malandati strumenti del
Liceo e l'acquisto di materiale didattico. Nato l'8 maggio
1945 per avvicinare alla musica i giovani fra i 12 e i 20
anni "senza distinzione di religione, nazionalità o
colore", Srednja Muzicka Skola di Sarajevo ospita oggi 205
allievi e 75 professori. Tutti operano fra mille
difficoltà: la biblioteca di 12.000 volumi è accatastata in
16 metri quadrati, gli strumenti sono così malandati da
essere spesso inutilizzabili e i ragazzi, nessuno dei quali
possiede lo strumento, di buon grado cercano di pagare una
sorta di affitto.
In più la chiesa cattolica, proprietaria dell'edificio al
centro di Sarajevo, pretende la restituzione degli spazi.
Tutti i proventi della vendita a prezzo speciale di Abbassa
la tua radio (19.900 lire) andranno a rimpolpare le magre
finanze del Liceo di Musica. Un buon motivo per riascoltare
Ho un sassolino nella scarpa e Mille lire al mese.

(Da "Il Manifesto", 19/7/2000)


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Fonte: Yugoslav Daily Survey 20 July 2000 No.3114

http://www1.mfa.gov.yu/
http://www.smip.sv.gov.yu/
http://www.mfa.gov.yu/


INTERVIEW
OF THE FEDERAL MINISTER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE FR OF YUGOSLAVIA, MR. ZIVADIN JOVANOVIC,
TO "AL ARAB AL YAWM" DAILY

In an interview to Jordanian "Al Arab Al Yawm" daily, the
Yugoslav
Foreign Minister Mr. Zivadin Jovanovic said that his country maintained
close relations with the majority of Arab countries, particularly
stressing
that the biased claim that Serbs had killed Muslims was the biggest lie
of
the twentieth century.

Q: What is your assessment of Yugoslav relations with Arab
countries on the whole?

A: We have very deep and strong friendship and ties with all
Arab
countries. Allow me to briefly reflect on Jordanian-Yugoslav relations.
Long-standing relations of cooperation and friendship, fruitful
political, economic, scientific, cultural and all other forms of
cooperation have linked us with Arab countries. The scope of our
friendly
relations and mutually beneficial cooperation with Arab countries
extends
from Gibraltar to Oman and we remain interested in the development of
Arab
countries. For example, our cooperation with North African Arab
countries
(Maghreb) is increasing. One of our companies has recently won a
contract
for a project in Libya worth 180 million US dollars. We have companies
working in the fields of infrastructure in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and
Algeria, as well as in Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE etc.

Q: Please tell us something about the present situation in
Yugoslavia.

A: We are now fully engaged in the reconstruction of what NATO
has
destroyed by bombing - bridges, factories, houses, radio and television
facilities, electricity and energy stations, schools, hospitals,
kindergartens. Recently, we have started our third phase of
reconstruction,
i.e. development. We are trying hard to find balance between
reconstruction
and technology modernization in order to enhance our economy and remain
competitive at international markets.
Automobile factory "Zastava", as well as our tractor factory for example
has renewed their export to Arab and neighboring countries. We have
recently opened the Bridge in Novi Sad over Danube River on European
corridor 10. Eighty-four trains to and from various European countries
daily pass over this bridge. In our view, this is of utmost geopolitical
importance in European transport, communication and links to the Middle
East and Asia.
We are working on the modernization of our economy and its
privatization. We promote small and medium projects and strongly
encourage
foreign investments. Greek and Italian investments, for example, are
estimated at one billion US dollars. Also, there are considerable
investments of Yugoslav expatriates amounting to millions, which are all
tax-free.
We have started the realization of a huge highway project linking the
city
of Novi Sad with our capital Belgrade. The construction of highway
Nis-Macedonian border is also underway. All of these projects are to be
completed before the 2004 Olympic games in Athens, to facilitate the
access
of Europeans to Greece through Yugoslavia. We assess that the transit
revenues amount now over 200 million US dollars.

Q: What is your assessment of the situation in Kosovo?

A: As you are aware, we have reached an agreement in June last
year ending the NATO aggression against our country. Based on this, the
UN
Security Council adopted its Resolution 1244 (1999), guaranteeing
security
to all citizens, the territorial integrity and sovereignty of
Yugoslavia,
ending terrorism, establishing the security of international borders,
guaranteeing a safe environment for free and safe return of all refugees
and displaced persons. However, none of this has been accomplished so
far.
Despite the fact that more than one year had elapsed since the adoption
of
the Resolution, all the conditions are continuously worsening. The drugs
and arms smuggling, women trafficking have spread, security has
deteriorated, killings and rapes has drastically increased.
In 12 months we have registered 1.100 murders and over 1000
kidnappings, mainly Serbs, Moslems, Romas, Goranci, Turks ? all
nonalbanians. This means that every day seven people are killed or
abducted. And no one was indicted or imprisoned for these crimes. About
350.000 Serbs, Muslims, Roma, Goranci, Turks and Egyptians were forced
to
leave Kosovo. During the same period, around 300.000 Albanians from
Albania
have illegally entered our southern province, which was tolerated by
UNMIK
and KFOR. This clearly shows the dramatic deterioration of the situation
in
the province, and systematic violation of the Resolution 1244 (1999).
The
UN Security Council has done nothing to ensure compliance and would not
let
us guard our borders, in spite of the fact that we are authorized to do
so
by Resolution 1244 (1999). On our part, we only insist on the full
implementation of the UN SC Resolution 1244. No more, no less. We insist
on
the respect of our sovereignty and territorial integrity and the
protection
of all our citizens, regardless of their religion or nationality. We
have
many citizens in Kosovo, both Muslims and Serbs, who are threatened by
terrorist "KLA" and are even without food, water, education or jobs.

Q: You talk about Muslims and of their suffering, while at the
same time your country is accused of expelling Muslims. What is your
view
of that?

A: That is obviously just a big lie and biased propaganda from
those who pretend to be the protectors of Muslims and who pose as their
apparent friends. At the same time, we have witnessed that they were
indiscriminately killing Albanians, Muslims, Serbs ? all citizens in
Kosovo, during the NATO aggression. They are trying to gain control over
Muslims throughout the Muslim world. This is because of the wealth of
Muslim countries, oil reserves and their consuming capacity. Therefore,
such claims represent the biggest lies of the 20th century. Such claims
are
aimed at destroying trust between the Muslim world and us. They want to
divide us, to seed mistrust and confrontation in order to gain control
over
both. However, fortunately, everyone is becoming aware of that devious
tactics. Serbs and Muslims in Yugoslavia have lived as brothers for
centuries. The have lived without problems for they have the same Slavic
origin, they are of the same race and blood; they share the same destiny
and goals of peace and prosperity. What do the superpowers want and what
are they planning? Their strategy is to create a religious conflict in
order to destroy and weaken all religions, thus dominating over our
wealth
and our destiny. But we in Yugoslavia do not allow anybody to interfere
between us, between Muslims and Serbs. Some people are perhaps unaware
that
indeed more Muslims live in Yugoslavia than in Bosnia. Both Muslims and
Christians are now working together on the reconstruction and
modernization of Yugoslavia. They are brothers and they cherish
Yugoslavia
as their only home.

Q: What is the story of the opposition and who is behind it?

A: After NATO's failure in achieving their goals by force, they
resorted to sanctions and interference in our internal affairs in the
attempt to destabilize the country and impose leaders of their own
choice,
those who would amnesty NATO of its crimes against peace and humanity.
One
has to remember that they have destroyed our economy during the
aggression
inflicting damage estimated at around 100 billion US dollars. This is in
addition to 150 billion US dollars damage caused by illegal sanctions.
They
have killed thousands of civilians, children, refugees and many innocent
people, among them 16 journalists of Belgrade television. Out of 19 TV
transmitters, they have destroyed 17, leaving only two in operation. At
the
same time they have established NATO radio and television stations in
some
of our neighboring countries in order to change the public opinion
against
our Government and its leaders. They are paying many to the opposition
hoping for destabilization. Our opposition parties call for holding
extraordinary elections only a couple of months before the regular
elections, scheduled to be held later this year. There are no reasons
for
this. A vast majority, if not all people are engaged in the
reconstruction
and expect elections to be held in regular terms. They do not trust NATO
or
their exponents in our country.
Last April the opposition organized a demonstration offended by
some 30.000 people. Having in mind that only Belgrade has 2 million
residents, that is very low support. Last May they tried with another
demonstration offended by not more than 15.000 people. Last June they
organized the third demonstration attended by only a couple of thousand
people. And just for comparison: the inauguration of the newly
constructed
bridge over the Danube in Novi Sad by President Milosevic in June was
attended by hundreds of thousands of people. You need to judge these
facts
by yourself ? whom and what kind of policy the people support and whom
and
what they do not support.

Q: We have heard that some countries are advocating the
alleviation of sanctions against Yugoslavia. What is your opinion of
that?

A: Yes, indeed. More or less everyone now recognizes that
sanctions do not solve but rather cause many problems, that they
represent
the most massive violation of human rights and that they are
counterproductive. At this time, out of 15 members of the EU, only one ?
Britain ? is still in favor of sanctions. All the others are against.
Hopefully those responsible in London may also soon accept the will of
the
majority in the EU.
We highly appreciate calls for removal of sanctions from many
European countries. Just to mention the actions of the Russian Duma,
that
of 30 Swedish MPs and a big group of Italian MPs, including the Chairman
of
the Italian Parliament. The British parliamentary group has collected
10.000 signatures to urge the British Government to lift the sanctions.
We
believe that the sanctions are a crime against humanity and we call for
the
immediate lifting of all sanctions anywhere in the world. They solve
nothing. They only cause suffering.


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LE MILIZIE PERSONALI DI DJUKANOVIC SONO ADDESTRATE DALLE
FORZE SPECIALI BRITANNICHE

The Independent (UK)

We have the heart for battle, says Montenegrin trained by SAS
By Phil Rees in Podgorica
30 July 2000

An officer from Montenegro's Special Police, the Spezijalni, has
described the role of the SAS in training the force. Tensions between
Montenegro and Serbia – the last republics remaining in the Yugoslav
federation – are likely to be stretched even nearer to breaking point
by the revelations.
The 15,000-strong force will be the front line of defence if the
Yugoslav president, Slobodan Milosevic, attempts to oust the separatist
Montenegrin president, Milo Djukanovic, and replace him with a leader
loyal to the union with Serbia.
The presence in Montenegro of the Seventh Battalion of the Yugoslav
army, which has been busy recruiting there, raises the prospect of a
bitter fratricidal war on Montenegrin soil between the pro- and
anti-Milosevic camps.
Sparked by Mr Djukanovic's increasing threats to break away, the Seventh
Battalion keeps an ever-watchful eye on its Montenegrin counterparts.
But British involvement in the republic, in the shape of the SAS, may
have escaped the gaze of the black-bereted recruits to the Yugoslav
force.
The revelation comes amid an increasing sense of doom in Montenegro,
following the announcement by Mr Milosevic that he will seek re-election
as Yugoslav president in polls in late September. An internal EU
analysis recently predicted that Mr Milosevic would most probably win at
least another four years in office.
In the grounds of the Hotel Zlatica, now converted into a barracks on
the outskirts of Montenegro's capital, Podgorica, Velibor, 23, an
experienced officer in the Spezijalni, spoke of his time with the
British unit: "It was great. We learnt a lot. Some of the techniques
they use are different to ours."
The threat from fellow countrymen in the Seventh Battalion is treated
very seriously: "If somebody wants to harm our country, you have to
shoot him. It doesn't matter if it's your friend or your father or your
brother. My best friend – or he used to be, he joined the army and I
joined the police – told me 'brother, it's better for me to shoot you
because then you can't shoot me'."
Velibor stands well over 6ft tall, as do most of the officers in the
élite unit of the Special Police – seemingly in contrast to their
SAS tutors. "They told us 'You have very big guys here... we are all
small guys and we like to run, and you all like to lift weights.' We
were very strange to them."
The Special Police has a fierce reputation in Montenegro – its gung-ho
approach seemingly unsettling the SAS. "They thought we were crazy. When
two of us banged into a house and started shooting into walls, bullets
were flying around and they said 'Oh, it's a real gun, real bullets?
You're crazy guys, you don't have protection'. But we have a heart, we
don't have protection but we have a heart. A big heart."
The role of the SAS in Montenegro is highly sensitive, with the Special
Police seen as a challenge from inside Yugoslavia to Mr Milosevic. His
supporters have regularly claimed that "foreign forces" are arming and
training the Spezijalni. Montenegro's government officially denies any
involvement by foreign nations in the training or arming of the police.
The SAS training includes hostage rescue. A key scenario played out by
the anti-terrorist unit of the Spezijalni is how to react to an
attempted coup by forces loyal to Mr Milosevic.
The Seventh Battalion, all Montenegrin, whose largest contingent is
based near the northern town of Bijelo Polje, has been recruiting in
numbers for the past six months.
Ivan, a softly spoken man in his late thirties, fought for the Yugoslav
army during the wars that ripped Yugoslavia apart in the 1990s. He was
under the orders of Mr Milosevic then and would continue to follow his
orders now.
"If Djukanovic calls for a referendum or moves in any other violent way
towards independence, the Seventh Battalion will follow the orders of
the president. If there is a situation where weapons will decide the
outcome, we are ready. We are training for that."
Mr Djukanovic describes the Seventh Battalion as a "paramilitary force".
"Mr Milosevic has always formed groups with the aim of provoking
internal conflicts," he says.

Phil Rees presents 'Crossing Continents' on BBC Radio 4 on Thursday 3
August at 11am, and 'Correspondent' on BBC2 next Saturday at 6.50pm

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CON TUTTI I SEGRETI DI STATO CHE ABBIAMO IN ITALIA,
ADESSO CI MANCA PURE IL "SEGRETO EUROPEO"!...

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Pestieau
To: Jean Pestieau
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: L'Union Européenne contre la démocratie: CREATION D¹UN " SECRET
EUROPEEN "


LE RESEAU VOLTAIRE DENONCE LA CREATION D¹UN " SECRET EUROPEEN " EN
VIOLATION
DU TRAITE D¹AMSTERDAM

Communiqué ­ 27/07/00 - Le Réseau Voltaire exprime sa plus vive
inquiétude
après l¹adoption par les représentants permanents des quinze États
membres
de l¹Union européenne, mercredi 26 juillet 2000 à Bruxelles, d¹une
motion
présentée par Javier Solana, instituant un " Secret européen ".

Dans un premier temps, ce " Secret européen " portera sur l¹ensemble des
questions de Défense commune, y compris les affaires non-militaires
comme
l¹actuelle mission de maintien de l¹ordre au Kosovo. Dans un second
temps,
il pourrait être étendu aux questions de sécurité intérieure, y compris
Europol et la répression de l¹immigration clandestine.

Le Réseau Voltaire dénonce la création d¹un " domaine réservé " en
dehors du
champ démocratique, en violation du Traité d¹Amsterdam.

En outre, le Réseau Voltaire s¹interroge sur la signification politique
d¹une telle décision. Elle reprend une préconisation formulée, au cours
de
la guerre du Kosovo, par l¹ambassadeur américain Richard Hoolbroke et
celui
qui était alors secrétaire général de l¹OTAN, Javier Solana. À l¹époque,
la
justification de la création d¹un tel " secret " était d¹associer les
Européens aux décisions prises par le seul Pentagone.

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VERSO LE ELEZIONI DEL 24 SETTEMBRE NELLA RF DI JUGOSLAVIA

Serbian opposition to run united against Milosevic

BELGRADE, July 29 (Reuters) - Serbia's opposition said on Saturday it
would
unite to challenge Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic with a single
candidate at the September election....

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HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NPs4.7237255.649175127">click here</A>.

Montenegro opposition backs Yugoslavia's Milosevic

PODGORICA, Yugoslavia, July 29 (Reuters) - Montenegro's opposition party
loyal to Belgrade backed Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's bid for
re-election on Saturday.

The opposition Socialist People's Party (SNP) led by Yugoslav Prime
Minister
Momir Bulatovic, said it would support Milosevic's Socialist Party and
the
Yugoslav Left led by his wife Mirjana Markovic in presidential,
parliamentary
and local elections on September 24....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NQKR.382102.649183767">click here</A>.

Milosevic to bid for reelection in Yugoslavia

BELGRADE, July 28 (Reuters) - Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic
stepped
forward on Friday to stand for re-election in September, as an opinion
poll
suggested he could face defeat if the country's fractious opposition
parties
were able to unite.

U.S. President Bill Clinton and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder,
meanwhile, promised to help Serbia's democratic opposition join forces
against the man they called Europe's ``last aggressive dictator.''

The European Union added its voice in support of Serbia's opposition,
urging
it to unite against Milosevic. Yugoslavia protested to an EU troika over
the
bloc's statements accusing Milosevic of manoeuvring to hold on to
power....

FROM THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA

ELECTIONS FOR FEDERAL PARLIAMENT ON SEPT 24
BELGRADE, July 27 (Tanjug) Yugoslav President Slobodan
Milosevic
has called elections for both chambers of the federal parliament.
The president on Thursday signed decisions that elections for
the
Chamber of Citizens and the Chamber of Republics will be held on Sept
24,
2000, and that the assigned time for all deadlines for work on these
elections will start with the date of July 27.
The signing of the decisions was attended by Chamber of
Citizens
President Milomir Minic, Chamber of Republics President Srdja Bozovic,
and
Yugoslav Prime Minister Momir Bulatovic.

ELECTIONS FOR YUGOSLAV PRESIDENT CALLED
BELGRADE, July 27 (Tanjug) The Yugoslav parliament's Chamber
of
Citizens President Milomir Minic on Thursday called elections for the
president of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
Elections for Yugoslav president will be held on Sept 24, 2000,
and all assigned periods for deadlines within the elections procedure
will
begin from today, July 27.

PARLIAMENT PRESIDENT CALLS LOCAL ELECTIONS IN SERBIA
BELGRADE, July 27 (Tanjug) Serbian parliament President Dragan
Tomic on Thursday, July 27, adopted a decision in keeping with the Law
on
local selfadministration, and called elections for deputies in municipal
assemblies, town assemblies, and the city of Belgrade.
The elections will be held on Sept 24, and the assigned time
within the deadlines for all work in connection with the elections will
start from July 27.

ELECTIONS FOR VOJVODINA PARLIAMENT CALLED
NOVI SAD, July 27 (Tanjug) Vojvodina parliament President
Zivorad
Smiljanic on Thursday adopted a decision, in keeping with the Statute of
this northern Serbian province, to call elections for deputies in the
provincial Assembly.
Elections will be held on Sept 24, 2000, the same day when
elections have been set earlier today for deputies in municipal
assemblies
in Serbia, in the two chambers of the federal parliament, and for
Yugoslav
president.

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PROTESTE DEI PROFUGHI DI TUTTE LE NAZIONALITA' IN BOSNIA
PER LA MANCATA RESTITUZIONE DELLE ABITAZIONI

Bosnia refugees protest problems of returning home

TUZLA, Bosnia, July 29 (Reuters) - Thousands of refugees from Bosnia's
three
main ethnic groups gathered on Saturday to protest the slow pace of
return to
their pre-war homes.

Under the slogan ``Return,'' Moslem, Croat and Serb refugee associations
organised a joint meeting in the northern town of Tuzla to express
country-wide dissatisfaction with efforts to return them to their homes
five
years after the end of the 1992-95 war....

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LA KFOR VUOLE ULTERIORMENTE MILITARIZZARE IL PROTETTORATO DEL KOSOVO
PER GARANTIRE IL "REGOLARE SVOLGIMENTO" DI ELEZIONI ILLEGITTIME
IN OTTOBRE

KFOR plans extra troop presence for Kosovo election

KOSOVO POLJE, Yugoslavia, July 29 (Reuters) - The commander of the
NATO-led
peacekeeping force in Kosovo said on Saturday he planned to increase the
presence of troops in the province during October municipal elections.

General Juan Ortuno said plans for the election period were being worked
out
with the U.N. mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) and with U.N. police....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NVDB.359292.649348985">click here</A>.

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RELAZIONI BILATERALI RFJ-IRAQ

YUGOSLAVIA AND IRAQ BEARERS OF REVIVED AWARENESS
BAGHDAD, July 29 (Tanjug) Yugoslav Foreign Trade Minister
Borislav Vukovic, who is heading a state economic delegation visiting
Iraq,
met on Friday with Iraqi ministers, VicePrime Minister Hikmet Al Azivi
and
VicePresident Taha Jasin Ramadan.
Ramadan said that the two countries share the joint orientation
for the preservation or their national goals and the defence of their
sovereignty, independence and the alienable right to independent
development. He underscored that these values, upon which the
international
law is based, are threatened daily by the United States and its
aggressive
policy.
Iraq, which is bombed by the U.S. and British airforces every
day,
and Yugoslavia, which was bombed for 78 consecutive days in the spring
of
1999, have become the bearers of the revived awareness about the other
side
of the new world order and the American view of globalism and humanism,
Ramadan stated.

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UN "PACIFICO APARTHEID" NEL KOSOVO "LIBERATO" DALL'UCKFOR

SERBIAN PROVINCE OF KOSOVO AND METOHIJA
THAQI IS TRYING TO CREATE "PEACEFUL APARTHEID" IN KOSOVOMETOHIJA, HALITI
BELGRADE, July 29 (Tanjug) A member of the Temporary Executive
Council of KosovoMetohija, Bajram Haliti, described on Friday Hashim
Thaqi's urging of the "Agenda for a peaceful coexistence" as an
unequivocal
attempt to create a "peaceful apartheid" in KosovoMetohija.
In a recent interview to the Voice of America radio, Thaqi
advocated the creation of an "Agenda for peaceful coexistence" in the
territory of Serbia's southern province.
Haliti told Tanjug that the application of apartheid in
KosovoMetohija represents an attempt to divide the province.
This also means the failure of all Western claims about the
alleged justification of the NATO aggression on the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia, Haliti stated.

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RAPITO ANZIANO SERBO DI ORAHOVAC

ETHNIC ALBANIAN EXTREMISTS KIDNAP ORAHOVAC SERB
ORAHOVAC, SERBIA, July 29 (Tanjug) Ethnic Albanian extremists
kidnapped at 7 p.m. on Friday Trifun Velikic, 75, a Serb from Orahovac.
Although Velikic's family and neighbours immediately alarmed
KFOR
and the UNMIK police, the search ended unsuccessfully and is continuing
on
Saturday.
Ethnic Albanian extremists also carried out another attack in
Orahovac last evening when a fire was set to the attic of Pero Stolic, a
Serb, at about 10 p.m. At the moment when the fire broke out, there were
nine members of the Stolic family in the house. The blaze was
extinguished
but the roof and upper floor have been completely destroyed.

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RAPPORTI BILATERALI RFJ-IRAN

IRNA
July 29, 2000
Iran, Yugoslavia Discuss Ways of Expanding Relations
BELGRADE Iran's Charge d'Affaires in Yugoslavia Javad Morad Khan here on
Thursday met Yugoslav Deputy Foreign Minister Novakovic and discussed
the expansion of bilateral political, economic and cultural relations.
In the meeting, Morad Khan referred to the recent economic, cultural and
sports cooperation between the two countries and underlined the
necessity of taking practical steps to further upgrade the level of
economic cooperation between the two countries.
The Yugoslav official noted Iran's independent positions in
international affairs and termed his upcoming visit to Tehran important.
He said the signing of a cooperation agreement between the Islamic
Republic News Agency (IRNA) and the Yugoslav news agency (Tanjug) which
took place during the recent visit of IRNA's Managing Director Fereydoun
Verdinejad to Belgrade, and the trip of an Iranian economic delegation
to Yugoslavia were important steps in strengthening the bilateral
relations.
(IRNA)

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LETTERA AL "TORONTO STAR", CANADA:
PERCHE' IL KOSOVO SI ED IL QUEBEC NO?

Rick Rozoff - 05:39am Jul 28, 2000 EDT (#2844 of 2844)

I notice that your columnist Gordon Barthos, who has
spent the past sixteen months flakking for NATO's war
against Yugoslavia, suddenly has misgivings about
violent separatists in Corsica, and barely disguised
contempt for the peaceful variety in Quebec.
What's the matter, Gordon, doesn't the Corsican
National Liberation Front come up to your refined
humanitarian standards as does the so-called Kosovo
Liberation Army - with whom and on whose behalf Canada
and its NATO master the U.S. waged relentless war
against the people of Yugoslavia?
Granted, your KLA allies are a hard act to follow. In
the thirteen months since Western troops escorted them
back into the Serbian province of Kosovo they've
succeeded in murdering over a thousand innocent
civilians of all ethnic backgrounds, including not a
few fellow Albanians; have been implicated in the
disappearance of over a thousand others; have driven
out anywhere from a quarter to a half million Serbs,
Roma, Jews, Turks, Croats and other Albanians; have
created a de facto 'ethnically pure' apartheid system
governed by gangster tactics and clan warfare; and
have consolidated their undisputed control of Europe's
heroin trafficking and sex slave industries.
Apparently the Corsican separatists need to hire a
better public relations firm - and enlist the support
of a few North American journalists - and, voila,
they'll be transformed into 'freedom fighters.'
Respectfully,
Rick Rozoff
Chicago, Illinois
U.S.A.

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UCK RAPISCE ESPONENTE POLITICO FILO-RUGOVA

http://www.centraleurope.com/yugoslaviatoday/news.php3?id=183064
Kosovo Politician Kidnapped

PRISTINA, Jul 27, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) A
senior member of Kosovo's leading political party has
been kidnapped by an unknown gang from in front of his
house, a spokesman for the party said Wednesday.

Shaban Manaj, an ethnic Albanian member of Ibrahim
Rugova's Kosovo Democratic League (LDK), was seized on
Sunday in the western Kosovo town of Istok by a group
of men in a BMW car, LDK vice-president Kole Berisha
said...

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MINACCE MAFIOSE DA PARTE DEL SEGRETARIO GENERALE DELLA NATO

NATO's Robertson warns Milosevic on Montenegro

PARIS, July 27 (Reuters) - NATO Secretary-General George Robertson
warned
Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic on Thursday not to undermine the
rule
of Montenegro's pro-Western President Milo Djukanovic.

``The situation in Montenegro is very worrying,'' Robertson said after a
meeting with French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin.

``I again repeat my warning to President Milosevic not to make mistakes
that
he has made in the past and not to continue to undermine the elected
government of Montenegro,'' Robertson said.

In an evident reference to NATO's air pounding of Yugoslavia in last
year's
Kosovo crisis, Robertson earlier told the French newspaper Liberation in
an
interview: ``I say to Milosevic: watch out, look what happened the last
time
you miscalculated...''

Asked about possible NATO intervention, Robertson said: ``We aren't
saying
what we will do. One of the lessons of Kosovo is that you don't reveal
your
cards too far in advance.''

Relations between Serbia, Yugoslavia's dominant republic, and Montenegro
have
soured further over constitutional changes pushed through the Belgrade
federal parliament that are designed to extend Milosevic's rule.

Djukanovic said in Berlin this week that the measures had been taken to
provoke his government and ``induce a nervous reaction leading to the
introduction of direct military rule.''

Robertson said after his talks with Jospin: ``I know that the French
government shares these worries (about Montenegro) as well. All of
us...share
the concern about the provocations.''

The talks with Jospin also dealt with defence relations between NATO and
the
European Union.

France holds the EU rotating presidency and is a prime mover behind a
planned
EU rapid reaction force earmarked to intervene in crises in which the
United
States does not wish to be directly involved.

Robertson told reporters outside Jospin's office that the French
presidency
would have a major effect on Europe's defence ``but also on NATO.''

12:01 07-27-00

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SULLA COSTANTE VIOLAZIONE DELLA RISOLUZIONE 1244

ALBANIA, UNMIK VIOLATING U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1244
PRISTINA, July 27 (Tanjug) The United Nations civilian mission
in
Serbia's Kosovo and Metohija province UNMIK has allowed Albania to open
an
"official representative office" in Pristina in direct violation of U.N.
Security Council Resolution 1244 which guarantees the sovereignty of the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in this province.
The Albanian "representative," a certain Gazim Podgorica, has
already arrived in Pristina. It has been announced, and subsequently
confirmed in Tirana, that the "mission" head will be Albanian President
Rexhep Meidani's political adviser Vladimir Prela.
The latest move by the peace mission in the province should be
viewed within the increasingly open attempts by UNMIK chief Bernard
Kouchner to enable ethnic Albanian separatists not only to secure
Kosovo's
independence, but even the creation of some Greater Albania.
This is best confirmed by this latest move and the provocative
explanation that "the Albanian office has been opened in keeping with
the
U.N. Book of Regulations on the work of diplomatic representative
offices
in Pristina."
Kouchner is evidently acting as if Kosovo and Metohija had
already
acquired independence and he is now trying to annex it to Albania.
Kouchner is obviously not interested in the fact that this move
clashes with the stands of the international community established at a
G8
meeting a year ago and the U.N. Security Council resolution on Kosovo
and
Metohija.
This is also in direct violation of the Vienna Conventions on
diplomatic and consular relations which regulate the status of such
representative offices.
The Yugoslav government has already on previous occasions
pointed
out gross violations of the principles of its sovereignty and
territorial
integrity, and this is a case of opening of paradiplomatic
representative
offices.

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ALBANESI DEMOCRATICI E JUGOSLAVISTI CONTRO IL NAZIONALISMO UCKFOR

CUSE: KOSOVO AND METOHIJA HAS FUTURE ONLY WITHIN SERBIA
KRAGUJEVAC, July 27 (Tanjug) The situation in Kosovo and
Metohija
is very tense and difficult because ethnic Albanian terrorists continue,
with the blessing of the UNMIK and KFOR, to attack, kill and abduct
Serbs
and not likeminded ethnic Albanians, President Sokolj Cuse of the
Democratic Reformist Party of Albanians and League for Peace Directorate
told TV Globus of the central Serbian town of Kragujevac late Wednesday.
Sokolj said he believed about 80 percent ethnic Albanians,
longterm residents of Kosovo and Metohija, are opposed to the anarchy
and
apartheid aimed against nonAlbanians which is being realized in the
province by international representative Bernard Kouchner. These ethnic
Albanians, who urge a multiethnic Kosovo and Metohija, and full national
and religious tolerance, cannot make themselves be heard because they
fear
the terrorists who are headed by Hashim Thaci, Sokolj said.
The arrival of the international civilian and military forces
in
Kosovo and Metohija, as well as their unreserved support to terrorists,
has
caused all Kosovo Albanians who do not support extremists to fear for
their
own safety. They are being terrorized, many of them have been killed,
their
daughters or sisters are being kidnapped and taken to unknown
destinations,
he said.
Kosovo and Metohija can have a future only within Serbia and
Yugoslavia, Cuse was adamant.

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NELLA FYROM L'ADDESTRAMENTO DEI TERRORISTI PAN-ALBANESI

TETOVO BARRACKS A TRAINING CAMP FOR ETHNIC ALBANIAN TERRORISTS
SKOPJE, July 27 (Tanjug) In the Tetovo army barracks, at least
300 ethnic Albanian extremists are undergoing daily military training
under
the supervision of military instructors from the KFOR German contingent,
in
preparation for a wave of terrorist attacks in Macedonia, likely to take
place no later than autumn.
Apart from vigorous training, the militant ethnic Albanian
extremists continue with unobstructed smuggling and trade of weapons in
Montenegro and Macedonia, taking advantage of the fact that the section
of
the MacedonianYugoslav border in KosovoMetohija is quite penetrable and
currently not controlled by the Yugoslav army. The securing of
conditions for training camps for terrorists and transit of weapons
through
Macedonia were the chief topics of clandestine talks between the
notorious
ethnic Albanian leader Hashim Thaci and Arben Xhaferi, Dosta Dimovska,
as
well as one of the aides of the American embassy in Skopje. They met in
midJuly in Tetovo.
The frequent and unobstructed transit of weapons, and storage
of
these at dozens of locations in Macedonia, are only the initial stages
of
the reviving and spreading of interethnic clashes in the Balkans, which
will, as some warned, inevitably break out in Macedonia this time.

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DICHIARAZIONI DI LJUBICA RISTIC (JUL)

RISTIC: NATIONAL DEFENSE A PRIORITY
BELGRADE, July 26 (Tanjug) The Yugoslav parliament's Chamber
of
Citizens Foreign Policy Committee President and Yugoslav Left President
Ljubisa Ristic gave an interview to a broadcast by Yu Info television
late
on Tuesday, in which he spoke about the adopted amendments to the Law on
financing the Yugoslav Army and other topical political developments in
the
country and the world.
Speaking about the financing of national defense, about which
he
addressed parliament on Tuesday, Ristic said national defense was a
priority and that it had been necessary to make this quite clear to MPs.
"Fortunately, we live in a country where the vast, a
disproportionately large majority of citizens are patriotically
inclined.
That is the foundation of our success in national defense, the
foundation
of our success in national renewal and its future development," Ristic
said.
Asked how he saw the stand of the international community
toward
Serbia's Kosovo and Metohija province in the province itself, in the
field,
and in the United Nations Security Council where the Yugoslav
representative is not allowed to take the floor, Ristic said: "We are
deeply troubled on that issue."
"We have the terrible problem of 350,000 people expelled from
Kosovo, we have several hundred thousand people who are not our citizens
who came across the border which the international community left open
toward Albania and Macedonia into our territory, where they are
settling.
We have murders and usurping of property on a daily basis. The worst
things
conceivable, but we have patience and we know that the task of this
generation is to get our people, army, police and state back into
Kosovo,"
Ristic said, underscoring that this generation must realize this.
As the head of the Foreign Policy Committee of the Yugoslav
parliament, Ristic also spoke about Yugoslavia's diplomatic activities.
"Our foreign service has the closest, most solid, and daily
contacts and cooperation with countries such as China, Russia, India,"
he
said, adding that there was no need to speak about the significance of
these countries. He underscored that Yugoslavia's diplomats today had a
more difficult task than they did even during the 1948 Cominform crisis.
"Our country must secure its return to the NonAligned Movement,
it
must develop its relations with many Islamic countries, with which
relations have deteriorated through their support of the disintegration
of
our country and secessions," Ristic said, saying it was quite normal
that
these contacts should be more frequent.
"Contacts with Egypt are increasingly improving, let alone with
black Africa or Latin America which, as a region, actually all these
years
constantly and systematically provided the best, most constant support
to
our struggle," Risic said, pointing out that the Yugoslav foreign
minister
was due on a visit to Peru on Wednesday.
"These are very important countries for us. They are important
because they are countries which make a compact approach, which
represent a
strong bloc in the United Nations, in the NonAligned Movement, in
addition
to the group of African countries which are under great pressure since
they
are poor countries, because imperialism has its grave and longterm
interests there, and, in particular, because of the neocolonialism which
has resurfaced in Africa," Ristic said.

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RAPPORTI BILATERALI RFJ-MOLDAVIA

MOLDAVIAN PRESIDENT PRAISES YUGOSLAVIA
KISHINEV, MOLDAVIA, July 26 (Tanjug) Moldavian President Petre
Luchinsky has received Yugoslavia's ambassador to the Ukraine, Gojko
Dapcevic, who is also accredited to the Republic of Moldavia.
During
sincere and detailed talks Luchinsky underscored that friendship and
trust
link the people of Yugoslavia and Moldavia and that this is a basis for
successful bilateral cooperation. It was concluded that the leaderships
of
both countries attach great importance to the further development of
more
extensive links in all forms of bilateral cooperation, specially in the
economic sphere for which there is mutual interest and real
possibilities.
Luchinsky praised the struggle of the people of Yugoslavia in
the
defence of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of their country
during the MarchJune 1999 NATO aggression and during the continued
pressures.
He also supported the orientation of Yugoslavia's foreign
policy
which advocates openness and equality in international relations and
noninterference into the internal affairs of other countries.
Luchinski set out that Yugoslavia and Moldavia have identical
positions regarding peace and stability in the world, the affirmation of
equality of states and peoples and the respect of the basic principles
of
international law. He underscored the need for mutual support between
Yugoslavia and Moldavia in international relations, especially in
opposing
the policy of hegemonism.
Moldavia fully supports Yugoslavia's justified demands for its
full return to the United Nations and all other international
organizations
and institutions.
Luchanski upheld the full implementation of U.N. Security
Council
Resolution 1244 on the sovereignty of Yugoslavia in Kosovo and Metohija.
He
stated that Yugoslavia, headed by President Slobodan Milosevic, would
succeed in finding the best solution for overcoming the current
difficulties in the struggle against separatism and terrorism in
Serbia's
southern province.

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FUOCO ALLE ABITAZIONI SERBE IN KOSMET

KOSOVO AND METOHIJA - TERRORISM
ETHNIC ALBANIAN TERRORISTS TORCHED SERB HOUSES IN KOSOVO POLJE AND
ORAHOVAC
KOSOVO POLJE, July 26 (Tanjug) Ethnic Albanian terrorists
early
on Monday morning looted and then torched the house of Milos Jovanic, a
Serb from the town of Kosovo Polje, close to Pristina.
Luckily, the entire Jovanic family was not at home at the time
of
the attack, but the house burned to the ground.
This latest arson case represents the realization of the
monthslong threats to the Jovanic family by the ethnic Albanian
extremists
whose clear aim was to drive them away from Kosovo and Metohija, just
like
the 250,000 Serbs who were previously forced to flee Serbia's southern
province.
Following an established pattern, KFOR and the UNMIK police
arrived too late, although their checkpoint is close by, as did the
firefighters whose arrival was useless since the fire had burnt itself
out.
The inactivity of KFOR and UNMIK renders them accomplices both
to
this morning's terrorist act and to all previous ones, many of which
resulted in the loss of lives.

ORAHOVAC, July 26 (Tanjug) Ethnic Albanian terrorists hurled a
Molotov cocktail at the house of Serb Milorad Soric in Orahovac, setting
it
on fire, amateur radio operators reported from crisis areas of Serbia's
southern Kosovo ad Metohija province late on Tuesday.
Soric's house was located hardly 50m from a control checkpoint
manned by the international force KFOR. The attack was launched 30
minutes
after midnight. The troops at the checkpoint intervened quickly, a fire
unit arrived, and other Serbs from Orahovac all helped contain the
flames.
Soric's house is located in the ethnic Albanian part of the
town.
Serbs kept withdrawing for security reasons toward the interior part of
this Serb enclave. The KFOR checkpoint was also moved back in pace with
the
Serbs, so that ethnic Albanian terrorists now torch the abandoned Serb
houses one by one.

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CRISI DI GOVERNO IN SLOVENIA

Slovenian coalition in crisis but will carry on

LJUBLJANA, July 26 (Reuters) - Slovenia's ruling parties declared their
coalition agreement dead on Wednesday after falling out over a new
electoral
law, but agreed to remain in government until a general election.

The end of the coalition agreement between Prime Minister Andrej Bajuk's
conservative People's Party (SLS) and the centre-right Social Democrats
(SDS)
followed a parliamentary vote on Tuesday night to enshrine the present
proportional representation system in the constitution....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NLgM.7233072.649073274">click here</A>.

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APPELLO ALL'EUROPA DALLE AZIENDE JUGOSLAVE - MA L'EUROPA
ALLUNGA LE SUE LISTE DI PROSCRIZIONE

Yugo businesses call on EU firms to oppose sanctions

BELGRADE, July 26 (Reuters) - Yugoslav businessmen invited the European
Union
on Wednesday to oppose economic sanctions and resume ties with the
Balkan
state. ``We invite European Union states and our traditional partners
from
these countries to an open and fair cooperation,'' president of the
Yugoslav
Chamber of Commerce Mihajlo Milojevic told a meeting of company
directors....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NGAF.7220725.648924528">click here</A>

EU tries to extend Serbia sanctions ``white list''

BRUSSELS, July 26 (Reuters) - The European Union said on Wednesday it
had
decided to add 52 Serbian companies to a so-called ``white list'' of
firms
allowed to do business with the bloc in spite of its sanctions policy.

A spokesman for the EU's executive commission said the names of the
companies
would not be published until each one had been consulted about whether
it
wished to be included, in view of what he called ``threats and
reprisals'' by
Serbian authorities....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NMs8.7263339.649095997">click here</A>.

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GIORNALISTA BUGIARDO CONDANNATO A SETTE ANNI DI PRIGIONE
(nota: il signore in questione in pieno conflitto si era inventato
la notizia di massacri di civili da parte jugoslava)

Yugoslav court jails Serb reporter for seven years

[actually Filipovic is a pro-Western Montenegrin who wrote probably the
DARKEST propaganda of the Kosovo conflict...]

NIS, Yugoslavia, July 26 (Reuters) - A Yugoslav military court sentenced
a
Serb journalist who reported allegations of army atrocities in Kosovo to
seven years in prison on Wednesday for espionage and spreading false
information.

Presiding judge Radenko Miladinovic read out the verdict after a two-day
trial in the southern Serbian town of Nis....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NDJO.355048.648815264">click here</A>.

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LA UE PAGHERA' PER RIPULIRE IL DANUBIO?

EU agrees funds to clear Danube of NATO debris

BRUSSELS, July 26 (Reuters) - The European Union's executive body on
Wednesday completed the final paperwork to contribute up to 22 million
euros
($20.70 million) to help clear NATO bomb debris from the Danube, one of
Europe's key waterways....

For the full text of this story, <A
HREF="aol://4344:30.L100NMlK.5307058.649093741">click here</A>

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FESTIVAL DEL FLAUTO A PRISLONICA (SERBIA)

> AFP, mardi 25 juillet 2000, 3h17
>
>
> La flûte, instrument millénaire de la tradition serbe
>
> PRISLONICA (Yougoslavie) 25 juil (AFP) - "La flûte est aux Serbes ce que
> les cuivres sont aux
> Tziganes de Serbie", souligne un organisateur du 13ème Festival des
> flûtistes de Prislonica, un petit
> village planté sur les contreforts de la zone montagneuse qui, du sud de
> Belgrade, s'étend jusqu'à
> l'Adriatique.
>
> Ethnologue, 52 ans, Dragomir Antonic est un ardent défenseur de la
> tradition culturelle serbe dont la
> flûte est, selon lui, l'un des maillons les plus populaires.
>
> "La flûte est l'instrument du berger, elle nourrit la complicité
> millénaire des Serbes avec la nature, elle
> imite le chant des oiseaux, assure la sérénité des troupeaux", souligne
> avec passion M. Antonic, dans
> un entretien avec l'AFP.
>
> Prislonica, à 140 km au sud de la capitale yougoslave, abrite en temps
> ordinaire trois mille personnes
> qui vivent, pour la plupart, du produit de leurs champs et de leurs
> pâturages.
>
> Un weekend de juillet: la quiétude des lieux fait place au tintamarre de
> la kermesse, comme tous les
> ans à cette époque. Le Festival de Prislonica est connu dans tout le
> pays et attire des milliers de
> visiteurs.
>
> Des tentes ont été dressées ça et là, au milieu desquelles circulent des
> orchestres traditionnels. Les
> chants sont repris en choeur par l'assistance. La bière coule à flot.
> Les rôtis d'agneaux et de porcs,
> les bols de choux marinés dans de grands récipients en terre cuite sont
> vite expédiés.
>
> 200 flûtistes se sont présentés aux éliminatoires organisées dans les
> diverses régions de la
> Yougoslavie. Ils ne sont plus que 22 à l'arrivée, invités à se produire
> devant un jury national et une
> foule experte et enthousiaste.
>
> Certains jouent en solo, d'autres se font accompagner de musiciens
> déployés sur la scène. En
> surplomb, à l'arrière-plan, des jeunes gens et filles, costumés,
> simulent des scènes de séduction.
>
> Deux morceaux musicaux sont imposés aux concurrents. L'un est lent,
> mélancolique. L'autre, rapide,
> incite au mouvement des corps, à la gaîté.
>
> "On peut aujourd'hui vivre de la flûte en Yougoslavie", relève M.
> Antonic. Toutes les occasions sont
> bonnes pour s'octroyer les services d'un flûtiste et de son orchestre.
> Les mariages rapportent le plus,
> jusqu'à 2.000 marks (900 dollars US, dans un pays où la moyenne des
> salaires mensuels n'excède pas
> 100 USD), précise-t-il.
>
> Un seul moment de la vie des Serbes bannit la flûte: l'enterrement. "La
> joie que cet instrument
> procure ne peut s'accommoder de la perte d'un être cher", commente M.
> Antonic.
>
> Trois victoires à Prislonica et c'est la consécration de l'artiste: il
> est déclaré "maître flutiste".
>
> De nouvelles portes peuvent alors s'ouvrir à lui. Ainsi, Vlada Baralic,
> 41 ans, est un "ancien" de
> Prislonica. Depuis il a fait sont trou. Enregistrement de quatre CD,
> nombreuses prestations publiques,
> en province ou à l'étranger. Baralic est actuellement, deux fois par
> semaine, à l'affiche d'un
> restaurant de Belgrade.
>
> Les défenseurs de la tradition s'insurgent souvent contre l'exploitation
> qui est faite aujourd'hui de la
> flûte.
>
> Le son limpide de ce petit bout de prunier a de plus en plus tendance à
> crouler sous le brouhaha des
> synthétiseurs. "Turbo folk"! C'est le nom communément donné, non sans
> ironie, à cette nouvelle
> musique.
>
> Toutefois, les traditionnnalistes ne sont pas contre la modernisation de
> la flûte "si elle continue de
> générer l'harmonie et la simplicité".
>
> L'une des chansons serbes les plus célèbres, Oj Moravo (du nom de la
> rivière Morave qui traverse la
> Serbie), a longtemps été interdite par les communistes -de l'ère Tito-
> sous prétexte qu'elle exacerbait
> la fibre nationaliste. Aujourd'hui, elle est allègrement reprise.
>
> Y compris par ce grand gaillard de paysan, Krstivoje Subotic, 77 ans,
> qui ne se sépare jamais de sa
> flûte. Il en joue depuis l'âge de 7 ans, a remporté 85 prix au cours de
> son existence et attend l'édition
> d'un CD. La flûte, c'est aussi une philosophie. "Les yeux peuvent
> tromper, dit le vieillard, mais pas la
> musique, elle vient du coeur".

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POCO CHIARA LA SITUAZIONE ALLA FRONTIERA ALBANIA-MONTENEGRO

YUGOSLAV ARMY CLOSES MONTENEGRIN-ALBANIAN FRONTIER
PODGORICA, July 25, 2000 (RFE/RL)

Local Albanian police chief Zija Hasa said in Skadar on 24 July
that Yugoslav army troops have recently turned back at least 300
Albanians at the Bozaj border crossing because they had no Yugoslav
visas, which Hasa called "a pretext," Reuters reported. He said that
the Yugoslav army recently increased its presence in the border area.
Montenegrin and Albanian authorities previously agreed not to require
visas for cross- border traffic. The Yugoslav embassy in Tirana,
which normally issues visas, has been closed since 1998. In the
Albanian capital, Foreign Ministry spokesman Sokol Gjoka said that
"this is a closure of Montenegro to Albanians".



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Il seguente articolo di Costanzo Preve e' stato da noi gia' fatto
circolare circa un anno fa
( http://www.marx2001.org/nuovaunita/jugo/crj/m_l/230799d.htm ), ma ci
sembra meritevole di essere riproposto in questa serie sulla
responsabilita' degli intellettuali.
A seguire riportiamo anche parte dell'articolo di Marino Badiale,
apparso sulla stessa rivista KOINE', che tratta degli aspetti etici del
conflitto.
La stessa casa editrice di KOINE' ha annunciato l'uscita a breve di un
altro testo di Preve, in cui dovrebbero essere riprese e approfondite le
considerazioni qui esposte.


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Prove generali di nazismo umanitario

di Costanzo Preve

1. L'aggressione assassina della NATO alla Jugoslavia, iniziata il 24
marzo
1999, è uno degli eventi fondamentali del Novecento europeo, anche se
per
ora di questo non c'è ancora sufficiente consapevolezza, data
l'asfissiante
manipolazione e saturazione mediatica sull'operazione di polizia
internazionale "umanitaria" resa purtroppo necessaria dai presunti
crimini
continuati del dittatore genocida Milosevic.
Per essere più esatti, si tratta di un evento ancora formalmente
"novecentesco", che si situa però ormai al di fuori dei quadri
geopolitici,
culturali ed economici del cosiddetto "secolo breve". Si tratta infatti
della seconda guerra imperiale americana, intendendo la "prima" come la
Guerra del Golfo contro l'Irak del 1991. E' dunque necessario
comprendere
bene la nozione di guerra imperiale americana, e conseguentemente di
"impero americano".

2. Gli USA vengono definiti dai loro capi, cioè dalla élite che li
governa
(su cui ha scritto parole terribili e profetiche l'americano Christopher
Lasch e su cui scrive parole terribili l'americano Noam Chomsky), come
l'unica nazione indispensabile del mondo. Questa espressione demenziale
connota bene l'autoreferenzialità assoluta di tutte le culture di tipo
"imperiale". Le culture imperiali si definiscono in modo
autoreferenziale
come portatrici di una moralità superiore, ricavata da una specifica
secolarizzazione economico-politica di teorie originariamente teologiche
(in questo caso giudaico-cristiane, più esattamente
giudaico-protestanti).
In quanto culture autoreferenziali, considerano "immorale" ogni
riferimento
di tipo variamente contrattualistico ad un Altro. L'Altro è sempre e
soltanto il portatore potenziale del Male e della minaccia relativistica
alla propria assolutezza paranoicamente introiettata. In questo modo
l'Altro è sempre e soltanto il terminale di una "inclusione" subalterna
nella propria logica sociale riproduttiva e nel proprio sistema di
valori e
di comportamenti.
Una cultura imperiale di questo tipo è pericolosissima perché è incapace
di
relazionarsi realmente con l'Altro, negandogli a priori ogni
legittimità.
Il pericolo aumenta quando il supporto materiale di questa assolutezza
autoreferenziale è basato su di un dominio soverchiante di tipo
economico,
finanziario, tecnologico, militare e culturale.

3. La prima guerra imperiale americana fu pianificata e scatenata nel
1991
contro l'Irak di Saddam Hussein (già allora demonizzato come "nuovo
Hitler"), e fu giustificata da alcuni come "guerra giusta" in quanto
guerra
di ristabilimento della legalità internazionale originariamente violata
dall'Irak, che aveva conquistato ed annesso il Kuweit in una breve
guerra-lampo svoltasi nell'estate del 1990. Questa guerra fu dunque
presentata come una guerra dell'ONU, e come un'affermazione del diritto
internazionale contro l'arbitrio nazionalistico.
Trascurando qui ogni riflessione geopolitica sul Vicino Oriente, sul
nazionalismo arabo, sul sionismo, sul controllo dei pozzi di petrolio e
delle fonti energetiche (e trascurando anche la guerra precedentemente
condotta dall'Irak contro l'Iran con l'assenso, l'armamento e l'appoggio
delle grandi potenze occidentali), bisogna invece riconfermare, alla
luce
soprattutto degli eventi successivi del periodo 1991-1999, che si trattò
invece proprio della prima guerra imperiale americana del nuovo periodo
storico apertosi con la tragica implosione del comunismo storico
novecentesco. Oggi abbiamo informazioni dettagliate di come la guerra fu
voluta dagli USA, e di come sono state via via svuotate tutte le
iniziative
diplomatiche tese ad ottenere un ritiro integrale dell'Irak dal Kuweit.
Oggi abbiamo informazioni dettagliate sull'uso di armi criminali, come
le
armi ad uranio impoverito, come l'isotopo 238, responsabili di danni
biologici irreversibili non solo nei corpi degli sconfitti, ma nei corpi
degli stessi aggressori. Ma sopra ogni altra cosa siamo dettagliatamente
informati sulle vittime innumerevoli, censite e documentate dagli stessi
organismi internazionali, causate dall'embargo assassino contro l'intero
popolo irakeno. Questo embargo verrà probabilmente ricordato come il più
grande crimine "umanitario" dell'intero decennio degli anni Novanta del
Novecento. Si tratta di un crimine noto, voluto, protratto,
sistematicamente pianificato ed eseguito. Esso è stato ed è un crimine
"imperiale", ben noto agli studiosi di storia, che ha come finalità
"razionale" la messa in guardia da possibili future ribellioni e
disobbedienze verso l'Impero stesso. Questa prima guerra imperiale
americana era già stata di fatto uno svuotamento ed una messa ai margini
dell'ONU, ma aveva ancora potuto ammantarsi di motivazioni di diritto
internazionale violato. Tutto questo viene meno con l'attuale seconda
guerra imperiale americana contro l'eroica Jugoslavia e contro
l'ammirevole
popolo serbo.

4. Questa seconda guerra imperiale americana presenta tuttavia un
interessante aspetto comune con la prima. La prima guerra imperiale
americana del 1991 fu una guerra geopolitica di controllo contro il
mondo
arabo e musulmano, e proprio per questa ragione la potenza imperiale
impose
la partecipazione subalterna a molti importanti paesi arabi e musulmani
(dall'Egitto all'Arabia Saudita). Questa seconda guerra imperiale
americana
del 1999 è una guerra geopolitica di controllo contro l'Europa, e
proprio
per questa ragione la potenza imperiale impone la partecipazione
subalterna
ai più importanti paesi europei (dalla Francia alla Germania alla povera
subalterna Italia). Le motivazioni "umanitarie" non riescono ovviamente
a
nascondere questo aspetto cruciale, su cui si soffermano analiticamente
i
commentatori più intelligenti. Questa guerra contro l'Europa è anche un
vero e proprio suicidio dell'Europa, ed in particolare della Germania e
della Francia (dell'Inghilterra di Blair è inutile parlare qui, perché
ha
riconfermato una scelta strategica fatta a partire dal 1945, quella di
operare come il cinquantunesimo stato americano in Europa). L'Europa
sarebbe stata perfettamente in grado di contribuire a garantire la
convivenza multietnica nei Balcani e nel Kossovo in particolare, anche
con
un serio monitoraggio internazionale. Certo, questo monitoraggio era
incompatibile con l'umiliazione del popolo serbo, con l'avallo
all'espulsione delle minoranze serbe in Croazia e nella stessa Bosnia,
con
l'appoggio militare agli indipendentisti razzisti dell'U.C.K. nel
Kossovo,
eccetera. Questo monitoraggio era ovviamente anche incompatibile con
l'incredibile coltivazione, protrattasi dal 1991 al 1999, dell'odio e
della
demonizzazione verso il popolo serbo, delegata ed appaltata a
piccolissimi
gruppi intellettuali isterici provenienti dalla vecchia "estrema
sinistra"
sessantottina (nouveaux philosophes in Francia, ex di Lotta Continua in
Italia, eccetera). Questi piccolissimi gruppi intellettuali erano
caratterizzati sopra ogni altra cosa dall'ignoranza più assoluta sulla
complessità storica, linguistica, religiosa e culturale delle etnie
balcaniche reali, un'ignoranza maldestrante coperta da una retorica
falsa e
strumentale sui diritti umani, diritti umani sempre a corrente alternata
ed
a geometria variabile, diritti umani sempre e solo garantiti ai propri
amici e sempre negati invece ai propri "nemici". Ed è appunto sulla
costruzione intellettuale del "nemico serbo" che occorre fare una
riflessione particolare.

5. La potenza imperiale americana utilizza ovviamente la retorica
umanitaria e la demonizzazione personalizzata dell'avversario (Milosevic
è
lo Hitler dei Balcani così come Saddam era lo Hitler del Medio Oriente),
ma
non fonda certo la propria legittimità sull'illusione retorica. In modo
molto chiaro Henry Kissinger ha ripetuto che forse la guerra non avrebbe
dovuto essere cominciata, ma una volta cominciata non può essere
condotta a
termine che con la sconfitta dell'avversario, pena la "perdita di
credibilità" della NATO e soprattutto della superpotenza americana.
Questo
è un parlare chiaro ed un mettere le carte in tavola. Il discorso è
diverso
per gli intellettuali di servizio alla Barbara Spinelli ed alla Adriano
Sofri, alla Enrico Deaglio ed alla Gad Lerner. Essi devono fornire un
"supplemento d'anima" alla strategia militare nazista dei bombardamenti
che
devono "spianare" un paese praticamente senza vittime fra le forze
imperiali, in attesa di una invasione terrestre fatta utilizzando la
carne
da cannone a buon prezzo delle bande dell'U.C.K. (che non mi sogno per
nulla di identificare con il popolo albanese in quanto tale).
Questo supplemento d'anima è fornito con una strategia intellettuale che
assomiglia in modo impressionante ai meccanismi proiettivi di
demonizzazione dell'antisemitismo nazista. L'antisemitismo nazista si
basava su di una identificazione esemplare, nel popolo ebraico, di un
popolo esemplarmente caratterizzato da due caratteristiche
intercambiabili
entrambe negative, il cosmopolitismo finanziario e lo sradicamento
rivoluzionario. Insomma, gli ebrei sono cattivi collettivamente ed in
toto
perché in essi si esemplifica e si incarna in modo tristemente esemplare
la
fusione perversa di cosmopolitismo finanziario e di sradicamento
rivoluzionario. Nello stesso modo questi nuovi intellettuali che
definirò
"nazisti umanitari" identificano l'intero popolo serbo con lo stereotipo
diabolico del nazionalismo etnico. I serbi sono oggi i portatori infetti
e
virulenti del nazionalismo etnico, così come mezzo secolo fa gli ebrei
erano i portatori infetti e virulenti del cosmopolitismo finanziario e/o
dello sradicamento rivoluzionario.
Abbiamo suggerito una chiave di lettura apparentemente assurda e
scandalosa. Ma preghiamo il lettore di non impazientirsi, e di prestare
attenzione alle riflessioni che seguiranno.

6. E' infatti purtroppo necessario che l'analogia fra il vecchio nazismo
antisemita ed il nuovo nazismo umanitario venga presa sul serio.
Ripetiamo
che l'identificazione simbolica a priori del popolo ebraico maledetto
con
gli stereotipi demonizzanti del cosmopolitismo finanziario e/o dello
sradicamento rivoluzionario esimeva dal prendere in considerazione gli
ebrei reali e la loro collocazione nelle società europee. La
semplificazione paranoica e l'identificazione diretta con il Male
Assoluto
permettevano di "saltare" la faticosa presa in considerazione delle
oggettività storiche. In questo modo il diritto al Pregiudizio ed
all'Ignoranza era garantito e legittimato. In questo modo, ed
esattamente
in questo modo funziona la nuova identificazione simbolica demonizzante
del
popolo serbo con il nuovo Male Assoluto del tempo dell'americanizzazione
globalizzata del pianeta, il nazionalismo etnico (vero o presunto).
E' così possibile non sapere che il "dittatore" Milosevic (che il
filosofo
"pacifista" Norberto Bobbio vorrebbe "spazzato via dalla faccia della
terra"), è in realtà stato eletto tre volte in regolari elezioni
pluralistiche, che l'opposizione politica in Jugoslavia esiste ed è
legalmente garantita, che Milosevic non può essere accusato di volere
estendere la Grande Serbia al Kossovo per il semplice fatto che il
Kossovo
è serbo dal tempo delle guerre balcaniche (1912-1913), che persino con
le
funeste limitazioni dei loro diritti rispetto ai benemeriti tempi di
Tito i
kossovari albanesi hanno sempre disposto di diritti che i curdi in
Turchia
e gli arabi in Palestina si sognano di possedere, che Belgrado è una
città
con circa duecentomila musulmani, che la Voivodina jugoslava e serba è
sempre storicamente stata un modello di convivenza etnica, linguistica e
religiosa, che i serbi sono stati cacciati dalla Croazia e non viceversa
con la connivenza dell'intera Europa, eccetera, eccetera, eccetera.
E' così possibile non sapere che i cosiddetti accordi di Rambouillet non
sono mai stati rivolti a ristabilire le condizioni della convivenza
pacifica fra serbi ed albanesi nel Kossovo, ma sono stati concepiti
dagli
americani per organizzare militarmente una secessione del Kossovo
nell'arco
di tre anni con un referendum farsa, e prevedevano un'occupazione
militare
incontrollata dell'intero territorio jugoslavo, e quindi anche una
prevedibile secessione pilotata del Montenegro e forse della stessa
Voivodina. Del resto, decine di diplomatici hanno chiarito
analiticamente
questo punto.
E' così possibile non sapere che prima del 24 marzo 1999 in Kossovo non
solo
non c'era un "genocidio" o un olocausto, ma non c'era neppure una
"pulizia
etnica", cioè una "espulsione etnica" generalizzata. C'era una guerra
civile a bassa intensità, o meglio una serie di operazioni
antiguerriglia
con tutto ciò che questo purtroppo comporta. E' noto che se la
"espulsione
etnica" fosse classificata come un genocidio popoli considerati civili e
"buoni" come i cecoslovacchi ed i polacchi sarebbero popoli "genocidi",
avendo espulso milioni di tedeschi dai Sudeti e dalla Slesia nel 1946.
Ma
in Kossovo non c'era neppure questa espulsione etnica generalizzata.
Questa
espulsione etnica è iniziata dopo i bombardamenti NATO, ed è
strettamente
collegata con il timore di una insurrezione etnica albanese in
concomitanza
con una devastante invasione terrestre della NATO e delle bande
dell'U.C.K., il cui programma è la secessione e l'espulsione dei serbi
dal
Kossovo. Il popolo kossovaro fugge perché sa perfettamente che si
combatterà casa per casa sul suo territorio, e non vuole essere preso in
mezzo. Del resto, qualunque cosa facciano i serbi essi saranno comunque
demonizzati. Se espellono gli albanesi fanno "pulizia etnica". Se li
tengono nel territorio useranno gli albanesi come "scudi umani" e come
"banche del sangue". I serbi sono dunque non solo dei nazionalisti
etnici,
ma anche dei vampiri.

7. Il problema non è dunque, non è mai stato e non sarà mai schierarsi
per
gli albanesi o per i serbi nel Kossovo. In proposito la sola posizione
umana e corretta sta nel lavorare quotidianamente per una armoniosa
convivenza multietnica, multilinguistica e multireligiosa. Ma
l'aggressione
NATO e la seconda guerra imperiale americana sono rivolte contro questa
prospettiva, in favore di una ulteriore "balcanizzazione" dell'Europa
Orientale, funzionale ad un controllo geopolitico preventivo sulla
Russia,
sull'Europa e sul Medio Oriente. Le motivazioni "umanitarie" sono una
menzogna manifesta e scandalosa. A suo tempo Guernica di Picasso, una
delle
più famose opere artistiche del Novecento, fu dipinta come una protesta
contro i bombardamenti nazisti in Spagna. Oggi Guernica non è più nei
paesi
baschi, ma è in Serbia e nel Kossovo. I nuovi nazisti sono però ancora
più
ipocriti dei precedenti, perché vogliono abbellire il loro soverchiante
dominio tecnologico con le motivazioni umanitarie e con i cascami della
"cultura di sinistra" europea del dopo Sessantotto. Questi cascami sono
oggi l'equivalente "buonista" di Goebbels e della sua propaganda.

8. Ancora una volta, l'Italia e lo stato italiano sono fra gli
aggressori,
anche se coprono questa loro aggressione con un'asfissiante retorica
"umanitaria". E' dal tempo del Risorgimento che il popolo italiano non
fa
più una guerra "giusta", nel senso giusnaturalistico del termine, una
guerra intesa come guerra di liberazione nazionale o come guerra di
difesa
contro un'aggressione manifesta. Guerre di aggressione furono le sue
oscene
guerre coloniali (Etiopia 1896 e 1935, Libia 1911). Guerra di
aggressione
fu la sua entrata nella prima guerra mondiale del 1915. Guerra di
aggressione fu la sua entrata nella seconda guerra mondiale del 1940. In
tutti questi casi la motivazione, ufficiale ed ufficiosa, fu quella di
essere un paese "importante" (perché di prima categoria, e dunque degno
di
partecipare ai grandi eventi internazionali risolutivi) ed un paese
"serio"
(perché fedele alle alleanze stipulate ed agli alleati principali).
La motivazione dell'importanza e della serietà è stata ripetuta dal
cinico
baffetto D'Alema, l'aborto terminale del togliattismo e del comunismo
storico novecentesco italiano, l'uomo il cui nevrotico sorriso di
sufficienza nasconde male l'insicurezza del parvenu ed il nichilismo
dell'ultimo uomo, che sa bene che Dio è morto ed appunto per questo
tutto è
permesso e non vi sono più limiti. Nei primi giorni di bombardamenti, a
chi
gli faceva osservare che la Grecia, membro della NATO, non partecipava
però
ai bombardamenti, D'Alema rispose che la Grecia era un paese di seconda
categoria e poteva permettersi cose che un paese di prima categoria come
l'Italia non poteva permettersi. Continuati i bombardamenti, D'Alema
insisté molto sul fatto che l'Italia era un paese "serio", cioè
affidabile
per la NATO, e che questa serietà doveva essere mostrata anche sul
campo,
cioè sull'uso delle basi di Aviano per il martirio della Jugoslavia.
D'Alema, come i tutti i parvenus ex-comunisti, è un provinciale
ignorante,
esperto solo in intrighi di partito ed in tranelli tesi ai capicordata
rivali, ma non è possibile che non sappia che i patti di Rambouillet
erano
un diktat rivolto a provocare il rifiuto non di Milosevic ma di
qualunque
governo sovrano jugoslavo, che la catastrofe umanitaria dei kossovari è
posteriore ai bombardamenti assassini NATO e che infine si tratta
nell'essenziale di una guerra imperiale americana di controllo
geopolitico
regionale del pianeta, e non di un "interventismo" rivolto a prevenire
un
genocidio ed un olocausto.

9. Questa vergognosa aggressione nazista, che è in corso mentre scrivo
queste note e di cui non è ancora prevedibile l'esito finale, è un
evento
epocale che avrà conseguenze terribili a breve e soprattutto a medio ed
a
lungo termine. Si tratta di una bancarotta del sistema informativo
globale
e dei media, che si sono rivelati uno strumento coordinato della
propaganda
di guerra, per cui si può tranquillamente dire che a volte i giornalisti
più coraggiosi dicono la verità (esemplare la magnifica Lietta
Tornabuoni
ed il coraggioso Michele Santoro), ma i giornali in quanto tali mentono
sempre. Si tratta di una bancarotta delle socialdemocrazie europee,
rivelatesi nel loro insieme grotteschi fantocci dell'impero americano.
Si
tratta di una bancarotta della "sinistra" nel suo complesso, avanguardia
vociante (ma si ricordino gli "interventisti" del 1914 e 1915!) del
massacro amministrativo coperto oscenamente dai "diritti umani". Si
tratta
infine di un divorzio, a mio avviso ormai irreversibile, fra
intellettuali
e popolo, in cui il settore maggioritario degli intellettuali e degli
opinion makers si è rivelato essere composto da una canea di belve
rabbiose
e con la bocca sporca di sangue, il sangue sia dei serbi (che essi
odiano
in quanto incarnazione maledetta del Nazionalismo Etnico) sia dei
kossovari
(che essi fingono di amare in quanto vittime impotenti della cattiveria
umana).

10. Per la prima volta nella mia vita, essendo nato nel 1943, ho
finalmente
capito che cosa volesse dire essere antifascisti negli anni Trenta.
Immagino che significasse sperare nella vittoria militare del Negus di
Etiopia e dei repubblicani spagnoli contro i propri stessi degenerati
connazionali. Immagino che significasse provare un sentimento di
radicale
estraneità per la propria stessa formale cittadinanza. Io oggi mi sento
serbo, come Peter Handke, in quanto cittadino di una nazione martire
aggredita ingiustamente, per di più con "motivazioni umanitarie". Io
oggi
mi sento a tutti gli effetti un cristiano greco-ortodosso, perché solo
in
questo modo posso esser vicino alle vittime dell'aggressione (nello
stesso
modo in cui Bergson decise di rimanere ebreo nel tempo in cui gli ebrei
erano perseguitati e sterminati). Ma mi sento soprattutto
internazionalista, perché ho capito ormai bene che il cosmopolitismo
imperiale, con il pretesto di colpire le nazioni, i popoli e le etnie
ribelli, colpisce in realtà i fondamenti di una loro possibile
convivenza
futura pacifica e solidale.
Torino, 21 aprile 1999

Nota aggiuntiva
In una lunga intervista pubblicata da L'Unità (25/4/1998), Norberto
Bobbio
ha fatto dichiarazioni non solo sconcertanti, ed indegne del suo passato
intellettuale, ma anche a tutti gli effetti infami. "Infame" è purtroppo
l'unico termine utilizzabile nel contesto di argomentazioni indegne:
«Non
possiamo non dirci filoamericani ... Non ha più senso chiedersi se una
guerra sia giusta o ingiusta ... Questa guerra ricorda le guerre sante
contro gli infedeli», eccetera, eccetera. Queste infamie hanno passato
la
misura. Ho finalmente capito che cosa significhi, ed abbia significato,
trahison des clercs, tradimento degli intellettuali. E' possibile che
l'intervistatore abbia subornato con l'astuzia un vecchio, sfruttando la
sua ignoranza del contesto storico e politico. In ogni caso, se Norberto
Bobbio è un intellettuale, sono fiero e contento di non appartenere a
questa indegna categoria (Torino, 25 aprile 1999).

***

Una tragedia dell'Occidente.

di Marino Badiale

"Parlino gli altri delle loro vergogne, io parlo della mia" (B.Brecht)

(...) Il principio invocato dai governi
occidentali è quello del rispetto dei diritti umani. L'Occidente afferma
di
essere la parte che fa rispettare i fondamentali diritti degli individui
e
dei popoli. Ora, questa affermazione è banalmente falsa. "Far rispettare
un
diritto, una legge, un principio" significa farlo rispettare sempre e
dovunque (nei limiti delle possibilità). Come una legge naturale è vera
quando è sempre vera, (per cui se la legge di gravità valesse un giorno
si
e uno no allora a rigore dovremmo dire che essa non vale, e che la vera
legge è un'altra, da determinare), così può affermare di far rispettare
la
legge chi si sforza di farla rispettare sempre e dovunque. Questo
principio
dell'universalità della legge è il punto principale che separa
democrazia e
tirannide, crimine e diritto, Totò Riina e Giovanni Falcone. E' infatti
del
tutto ovvio che anche la mafia, in certi casi, reprime il crimine, e lo
fa
anzi con molto maggior rigore della polizia: se per caso io andassi a
spacciare eroina a Palermo, finirei dissolto nell'acido molto prima di
essere arrestato dalla polizia. Anche la mafia si oppone a certi
crimini:
quelli compiuti al di fuori del suo controllo e delle sue regole. Qual è
allora la differenza fra mafia e polizia, se non il fatto che la polizia
reprime tutti i crimini, mentre la mafia reprime i crimini degli altri
ma
non i propri e quelli dei propri alleati? Allo stesso modo, i regimi
totalitari del 900 non avevano certo abrogato del tutto l'osservanza del
diritto, e neppure avevano eliminato del tutto i "diritti umani":
semplicemente avevano reso questi diritti non universali, passibili di
"momentanea sospensione" secondo gli interessi del potere politico. Ma
sospendere "ogni tanto e in certi casi" i diritti umani significa
sospenderli del tutto. L'universalità del diritto non è aggiunta
estrinseca, è la sostanza stessa del diritto.
Se esaminiamo la condotta dell'Occidente armati di questi principi, il
giudizio da dare è chiarissimo: non solo l'Occidente è ben lungi dallo
sforzarsi di far rispettare "sempre e dovunque" i diritti umani invocati
per bombardare la Jugoslavia, ma è spesso attivo complice della
repressione
dei diritti umani stessi; per fare solo i primi due esempi che ci
vengono
in mente, paesi alleati dell'Occidente come Turchia e Israele compiono
da
anni chiarissime violazioni dei diritti degli individui e dei popoli.
Con il sostegno e l'appoggio dell'Occidente stesso. Se abbiamo chiaro
tutto
questo, è evidente la falsità della tesi citata all'inizio, secondo la
quale l'Occidente fa rispettare i diritti degli individui e dei popoli.
Questa tesi è in contraddizione con la realtà. Ma qual è allora il
principio che regola le azioni dell'Occidente? Esso è chiarissimo: noi
paesi dell'Occidente, con i nostri alleati e amici, possiamo fare quello
che vogliamo. I nostri avversari no. Ma allora, per tornare alle
opposizione esposte sopra, in questo modo, nella sua azione
internazionale,
l'Occidente assomiglia a una democrazia o a una dittatura? Ci ricorda
Giovanni Falcone o Totò Riina?
E' chiara la risposta. Anche dal punto di vista dei principi sui quali
si
basa, l'azione della NATO contro la Jugoslavia appare dunque un'infamia.

Una tragedia dell'Occidente.
Questa tragedia non si traduce soltanto in sofferenza, morte,
imbarbarimento per popolazioni a noi così vicine, che ne sono,
naturalmente, le principali vittime. Questa vicenda è una tragedia anche
per l'Occidente. Pagheremo tutto questo. Forse non noi, forse i nostri
figli o nipoti, ma pagheremo. In due modi diversi. Innanzitutto, non si
può
continuare a rovesciare sul resto del mondo violenza, arroganza, cinico
disprezzo di ogni principio, senza subirne prima o poi le conseguenze.
Non
si può mostrare ripetutamente a tutto il mondo che la forza è l'unico
diritto e sperare che, appena la nostra forza sarà minore, qualcuno si
astenga dall'usare con noi le stesse massime da noi applicate agli
altri.
Non si può continuare a mandare al mondo il messaggio "io faccio quello
che
voglio perché c'ho le legioni, o i panzer, o gli stealth", e poi sperare
che qualcuno non te la faccia pagare, la volta che ti ritrovi senza
legioni
o panzer o stealth. Nessun impero è eterno, nessuna supremazia militare
dura per sempre.
Ma c'è un altro motivo di angoscia, ancora più serio. Perché la barbarie
dell'Occidente non agisce solo sulle sue vittime, agisce su di noi.
Rendendoci tutti un poco più barbari. Ciascuno di noi è oggi diverso da
ciò
che era ieri. Oggi siamo cittadini di un paese che si è reso complice di
un'infamia, e questo solo fatto, il fatto che questo è avvenuto e le
nostre
vite continuano come ieri, questo solo fatto rende ciascuno di noi un
po'
complice, un po' infame. Per evitare questa coscienza dovremo tutti
raccontarci qualche tipo di menzogna, anche solo distogliendo lo sguardo
dalle notizie che arrivano dalla Jugoslavia. E questa è la profonda
tragedia che tali vicende portano con sé. La catastrofe della coscienza,
l'oscuramento del pensiero. Effetto e simbolo di questa catastrofe è la
notizia, che mi agghiaccia quasi quanto i bombardamenti, delle masse di
curiosi che dai campi attorno ad Aviano assistono allo "spettacolo"
della
partenza degli aerei. Il solo fatto che una cosa del genere possa essere
vissuta come uno spettacolo, il fatto che uomini e donne "normali" non
riescano a vedere in quegli "oggetti volanti" la morte che recano con
sé, e
non se ne ritraggano con pietoso orrore (atteggiamento che, nella mia
ingenuità, mi aspetterei anche e soprattutto da chi fosse d'accordo con
l'azione NATO): questi fatti indicano una catastrofe delle coscienze
che
sicuramente ha origini lontane ma ha trovato in questa occasione la sua
espressione più agghiacciante. (...)

Marino Badiale

***

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Campo antimperialista 2000 - Assisi, 30 luglio - 6agosto

NO ALLA GLOBALIZZAZIONE !!
Da Seattle a S. Vicente Avanza la Ribellione contro l'Impero
dell'Ingiustizia





Giovedì 27 luglio, alle ore 11,00, presso la sala riunioni della
Libreria internazianale il
manifesto, in Via Tomacelli 144 a Roma,
Conferenza stampa nazionale di presentazione del Campo con Nicky Hager
(Nuova
Zelanda) e il Professort J. (Brasile)



Invitati Partecipanti al Campo:


Grazia Francescato [presidentessa dei Verdi] (Italia)

Don Vitaliano Della Sala (Italia)

Dino Frisullo

Organizzazioni Invitate Partecipanti al Campo:


Forze Armate Rivoluzionarie della Colombia - Esercito del Popolo
(Colombia)

Esercito di Liberazione Nazionale della Colombia (Colombia)

Hezbollah (Libano)


Elenco delle adesioni all'appello del Campo



EUROPA


1. Associazione dei Familiari ed Amici dei Prigionieri Politici (Spagna)
2. Azione Rossa di Duisburg (Germania)
3. Comitato di azione 24 Marzo di Turingia
4. Comunisti Baschi (Paesi Baschi)
5. Coordinamento dei Comitati del Movimento Operaio (Ucraina)
6. Corrente Leninista Internazionale
7. Costruzione Comunista (Germania)
8. Forum Internazionale (Danimarca)
9. Lega Comunista della Jugoslavia (Jugoslavia)
10. Lega Comunista della Jugoslavia-Comunisti del Montenegro
(Montenegro)
11. Lega dei Comunisti (Macedonia)
12. Lega Comunista Rivoluzionaria di Turingia (Germania)
13. Lega Comunista Rivoluzionaria (Austria)
14. Lega degli Antimperialisti, dei Comunisti e dei Socialisti
(Germania)
15. Movimento Nuova Sinistra (Russia)
16. Partito Comunista dei Popoli di Spagna (Spagna)
17. Partito dei Lavoratori della Jugoslavia (Jugoslavia)
18. Partito Repubblicano Socialista Irlandese (Irlanda)
19. Partito Russo dei Comunisti (Russia)
20. Partito Socialista Popolare (Serbia)
21. Sa Cunfederazione de sos Comunistas Sardos (Sardegna)
22. Sardigna Natzione (Sardegna)
23. Unione Operaia (Russia)
24. - Oleg Shein [Deputato Comunista della Duma] (Russia)
25. - Padre Jean Marie Benjamin [francese, responsabile delle
manifestazioni culturali dell'UNICEF](Francia)
26. - Paul Emile Dupret [Assessore della Sinistra Unitaria Europea
presso il Parlamento Europeo]

AMERICA LATINA


27. Associazione Madri di Plaza de Mayo
28. Centro Libero per il teatro e l'arte, CLETA (Messico)
29. Collettivo di informazione Internazionale (Loxicha-Messico)
30. Coordinamento Contro la Repressione Poliziesca e Istituzionale,
CORREPI
(Argentina)
31. Coordinamento Latinoamericano dei Giuristi, Sociologi e Gruppi
Emarginati
per l'Alternativa Democratica Popolare, CLAJADEP (Brasile)
32. Federazione degli Studenti Universitari del Venezuela (Venezuela)
33. Fronte Popolare Indipendente Francisco Villa (Messico)
34. Gruppo di Appoggio per la Libertà di Lori Berenson (Peru')
35. Gruppo musicale ³Cristal Andino²
36. Movimento della Sinistra Rivoluzionaria (Cile)
37. Movimento dei Lavoratori Disoccupati Teresa Rodriguez (Argentina)
38. Movimento Patria Libera (Paraguay)
39. Movimento Proletario Indipendente (Messico)
40. Partito Comunista Marxista Leninista del Brasile (Brasile)
41. Partito Comunista Marxista Leninista (Ecuador)
42. Partito della Liberazione (Argentina)
43. Progetto Emancipazione (Argentina)
44. Raggruppamento degli ex-prigionieri politici, Familiari e Amici
(Argentina)
45. Resistenza Redskin di Bogotà (Colombia)
46. Rete Cilena Indigena e Popolare (Cile)
47. Sindacato degli Impiegati Pubblici di Volta Redonda ( Brasile)
48. Sinistra Democratica Popolare (Messico)
49. Soccorso Operaio Sindacale (El Salvador)
50. - Elias Letelier [Poeta, ex-Ufficiale dell'Esercito Sandinista]
(Cile)

NORD AMERICA


51. International Action Center (USA)
52. Partito della Libertà e del Socialismo (USA)

AFRICA


53. Forze di Liberazione Africane della Mauritania (Mauritania)
54. Partito Rivoluzionario di Tutto il Popolo Africano (Ghana)
55. Partito Africano per la Democrazia e il Socialismo (Senegal)

ASIA


56. Associazione "Fedeltà all'uomo e alla terra" (Palestina-Libano)
57. Bund (Giappone)
58. Comitato per l¹Unità della Sinstra Rivoluzionaria (Subcontinente
indiano)
59. Federazione Unitaria del lavoro (Sri Lanka)
60. Forum della Resistenza di Tutti i Poppoli dell'India (India)
61. Fronte di Liberazione del Popolo (Sri Lanka)
62. Fronte Rivoluzionario di Liberazione del Popolo (Turchia-Kurdistan)
63. I Comunardi (Libano)
65. Nuova Alleanza Patriottica, BAYAN (Filippine)
66. Nuovo Partito della Eguaglianza Sociale - NSSP (Sri Lanka)
67. Organizzazione Patriottica Rivoluzionaria di Bethnarin (Turchia)
68. Partito Comunista del Pakistan (Pakistan)
69. Partito del Lavoro (Pakistan)

AUSTRALASIA


70. Nicki Hager [giornalista e ricercatore](Nuova Zelanda)




Programma definitivo


Domenica 30 luglio, arrivi

Durante tutto il Campo: Laboratorio Informatico di Comunicazione
Alternativa
a cura di Elías Letelier
(poeta cileno ed ex ufficiale dell¹Esercito Sandinista di Liberazione
Nazionale)
dalla mattina del 30 Luglio sarà attivo il sito del Campo:
http://www.antiimperialista.com

ore 21,00

Presentazione del programma e delle delegazioni ospiti.
Lettura saluti e messaggi.

Ore 22,30 Concerto.



Lunedì, 31 luglio


Ore 9,30

Forum n.1: Incontro con la delegazione turca
(Fronte Rivoluzionario di Liberazione del Popolo, DHKC)
Forum n.2: Incontro degli organismi di solidarietà con la Jugoslavia
Forum n.3: Incontro con le delegazioni russe

Ore 15,30

1. Sessione plenaria: I crimini NATO nei Balcani: i capi di accusa del
Tribunale Ramsey Clark. Presiedono: Stefano De Angelis ed altri


Ore 21,30

Forum n.1: Le ³guerre umanitarie² e le nuove strategie NATO per la
supremazia mondiale. Introducono: Marco Saba (Osservatorio Etico
Ambientale) , Francesco Iannuzelli (Ass. Peacelink sez. Disarmo)
Forum n.2: Dall'emarginazione alla resistenza, percorsi di dignità nel
Brasile d'oggi .
Introducono: Paola Riccobelli (Centro di Difesa dei Diritti Umani di
Garulhos, Sao Paulo)
Responsabile del Coordinamento Latinoamericano dei Giuristi,
Ricercatori Sociali e Gruppi Emarginati per una Alternativa Democratica
e
Popolare
Forum n.3: Questione nazionale e socialismo: tavola rotonda coi
movimenti di liberazione


Martedì, 1 agosto


ore 9,30

Forum n.1: Incontro con le delegazioni messicane
(Sinistra Democratica Popolare, Fronte Popolare Francisco Villa e
CLETA)
Forum n.2: Incontro con le delegazioni sarde
(Gavino Sale e Bustiano Cumpostu di Sardigna Natzione e
Confederazione dei Comunisti Sardi)
Forum n.3: Incontro con la delegazione jugoslava

Ore 15,30

2. Sessione plenaria: Repressione, Prigionia Politica, violazione dei
diritti umani e civili nel tempo della globalizzazione

Tavola rotonda con:
Associazione dei Familiari ed Amiici dei Prigionieri Politici
(Spagna)
Partito Repubblicano Socialista Irlandese (Irlanda)
Euskal Herriko Komunistak, Comunisti dei Paesi Baschi (Paesi Baschi)
Fronte Rivoluzionario di Liberazione del Popolo, DHKC (Turchia)
Fedeltà all¹Uomo e alla Terra (Palestina)

Ore 21,30

Forum n.1: Violenza o non-violenza? Forme di lotta contro la
globalizzazione
Introduce: Comitato Contro la NATO ela Guerra di Ravenna
Forum n.2: La guerra in Cecenia, il governo Putin e la sinistra russa
Introduce: Sergey Novikov, responsabile relazioni internazionali del
Partito Russo dei Comunisti
Forum n.3: I cristiani e la Solidarietà Internazionalista, da percorsi
diversi per un obiettivo comune. Introducono: Don Vitaliano Della Sala,
Padre Jean
Marie Benjamin (responsabile delle manifestazioni culturali dell¹Unicef)


Mercoledì, 2 agosto



ore 9,30

Forum n.1: "Teoria e pratica dell'autonomia per il potere popolare",
introduce Prof. J. (CLAJADEP, Brasile)
Forum n.2: incontro con la delegazione irlandese
Partito Socialista Repubblicano Irlandese (IRSP)
Forum n.3: incontro con le delegazioni basche
Euskal Herriko Komunistak, Comunisti dei Paesi Baschi (Paesi
Baschi)

Ore 15,30

3. Sessione plenaria: Echelon: sorveglianza informatica mondiale e
contromisure democratiche. Incontro con Nicki Hager


ore 21,30

Forum n.1: Immigrazione e lotta contro il razzismo nell¹Europa di
Shengen
Introducono: Gruppo Immigrati di Brescia, Dino Frisullo di Kurdistan
Azad, Paola Riccobelli (operatrice sociale nell¹ambito della
prostituzione per
l¹Associazione On the Road)
Forum n.2: Reddito di cittadinanza o lavoro come diritto inalienabile?
Introducono; Stefano Garroni e altri...
Forum n.3: Nuova destra e antifascismo
Introducono: W. Fisher (Germania Est), L. Willy (Austria)

Giovedì, 3 agosto


ore 9,30

Forum n.1: incontro con le delegazioni palestinese e libanese
I Comunardi (Libano), Fedeltà all¹Uomo ed alla Terra (Palestina)
Forum n.2: Incontro con le delegazioni cilena (Rete Cilena Popolare ed
Indigena)
Forum n.3: incontro con la delegazione dello Sri lanka
Fronte di Liberazione del Popolo (JVP)

Ore 15,30

4. Sessione plenaria: Islam e nuovo ordine mondiale
Introduce: Associazione Culturale di Hezbollah


ore 21,30

Forum n.1: La resistenza libanese contro il sionismo.
Introduce l¹Associazione Culturale di Hezbollah
Forum n.2: Le nuove sfide della tecnologia nella comunicazione di massa
in un progetto rivoluzionario. Introduce: Elias Letelier
Forum n.3: PAESI BASCHI: Quale destino per Euskal Herria?

Venerdì, 4 agosto


ore 9,00

Forum n.1: incontro con la delegazione pakistana
(Partito Comunista Pakistano)
Forum n.2: incontro con le delegazioni filippine
(K.M.U. Centrale Sindacale delle Filippine
Nuova Alleanza Patriottica, BAYAN))
Forum n.3: Incontro con la delegazione venezuelana
(Federazione degli Studenti Universitari del Venezuela, FEUV)

Ore 15,00

5. Sessione plenaria: La lotta di Liberazione in Colombia, la minaccia
dell¹intervento USA e l¹esito dei negoziati di pace.

Introducono
Paul Emile Dupret (assessore della Sinistra Unitaria Europea per le
relazioni con l¹America del Sud)
Esponente della Commissione Internazionale delle Forze Armate
Rivoluzionari della Colombia - Esercito del Popolo
Esponente del Fronte Internazionale dell¹Esercito di Liberazione
Nazionale della Colombia

ore 22,00

Forum n.1: Colombia: rischio di vietnamizzazione del conflitto e ruolo
della solidarietà internazionale
Forum n.2: Quale futuro per il Popolo Assiro, dopo la svolta del PKK
Introduce: Organizzazione Patriottica Rivoluzionaria di Bethnarin
Forum n.3: Il Messico dopo le elezioni: via parlamentare o via
rivoluzionaria
Introducono: Sinistra Democratica Popolare (Izquierda Democratica
Popular),
Fronte Popolare Francisco Villa e CLETA

sabato, 5 agosto



ore 9,30

6. Sessione plenaria: Inquinamento, transgenica e bio-tech: un nuovo
terreno della lotta anticapitalista.
Tavola rotonda con: Laura Corradi, esperta di salute ambientale, docente
di sociologia della medicina, presso l¹Università di Messina
Grazia Francescato, presidentessa dei Verdi e altri

ore14:00
Conferenza Stampa Interplanetaria
INCONTRO CON I PROTAGONISTI E GLI OSPITI DEL CAMPO
CON I MEZZI DI COMUNICAZIONE
TRASMESSA IN VIDEOCONFERENZA

Ore 15,30

7. Sessione plenaria: Seattle : valore e limiti della rivolta contro il
WTO
ITavola rotonda con: Grazia Francescato, presidentessa dei Verdi
(Italia)
Norma G. Biñas, segretaria del K.M.U. (Filippine)
José Bové, rappresentante di Confederazione dei Contadini
(Francia)°
°(in attesa di conferma)
ore 21,00

Saluti ai Partecipanti

ore 21,30 - Concerto e festa di chiusura -Domenica 6 agosto, partenze

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International Antiimperialist Summercamp
No to Globalisation!

>From Seattle to San Vicente Caguán —
The Revolt against the Dominion of Injustice is Advancing!

Assisi, Italy, 30th Juli-6th August
http://summercamp.cjb.net


Programme of the Antiimperialist Summercamp



Sunday, 30th July
21.00: Opening of the Summer Camp, Presentation of the delegations,
messages
of greeting
22.30: Concert

Monday, 31st July
Morning, Start 9.30
· Presentation of the delegation from Yugoslavia (Workers
Movement,
Kragujevac)
· Meeting of Solidarity Organisations with Yugoslavia
· Presentation of the delegation from Russia (Oleg Shein,
communist member
of State Duma, Sergey Novikov, Responsible for International Relations
of
the Russian Party of Communists)

Afternoon, Start 15.30
The NATO crimes in the Balcans
Introduction:
Workers’ Movement (Kragujevac), Stefano De Angelis and others

Evening, Start 21.30
Forum 1: The deadly weapons of the “humanitarian” warfare
Introduction:
M. Saba (Observation Centre for Ethics and Environment),
Francesco
Iannuzelli (Association Peacelink, Disarmament-Section)
Forum 2: Resistance for justice in Brazil
Introduction:
Paola Riccobelli (Centre For Human Rights Defence of the
Garulhos, Sao
Paolo),
Latin American Coordination of Jurists and Social Scientists for
a
Democratic Alternative of the People (Clajadep)
Forum 3: National Liberation Struggle against globalisation
Discussion table
with representatives of different liberation movements


Tuesday, 1st August

Morning, Start 9.30
· Presentation of the delegation from Mexico (Democratic Left of
the People,
Independent Popular Front Francisco Villa)
· Presentation of the delegation from Sardinia (Gavino Sale,
Bustiano
Cumpostu, Sardinia Nation, Federation of Communists from Sardinia)
· Presentation of the delegation from Turkey (Revolutionary
Peoples’
liberation Front, DHKC)

Afternoon, Start 15.30
Amnesty! Repression, prisoners of conscience and disregard of the human
rights in the world of globalisation
Discussion table
with representatives from Association of Friends and Relatives of
Political
Prisoners (Spain)
Irish Republican Socialist Party (Northern Ireland), Euskal Herriko
Komunistak (Basque Country)
Revolutionary Peoples’ Liberation Front (Turkey)
Fidelity to Man and Nature (Palestine)

Evening, Start 21.30
Forum 1: Violence or non-violence?
Forms of struggle against globalisation
Introduction:
Committee against the NATO and War, Ravenna, Italy
Forum 2: The war in Chechenia, the Putin Government and the Russian Left
Introduction:
Sergey Novikow, Responsible for International Relations of the Russian
Party
of Communists)
Forum 3: International solidarity
Introduction:
Don Vitalian della Sala
Father Jean Marie Benjamin (responsible for Cultural Affairs of UNICEF)


Wednesday, 2nd August

Morning, Start 9.30
· Latinamerican Coordination of Jurists and Social Scientists:
Autonomy and
People’s Power (Introduction: Professor J.)
· Presentation of the delegation from Ireland (Irish republican
Socialist
Party)
· Presentation of the delegation from Basque Country (Euskal
Herriko
Kommunistak-Basque Communists)


Afternoon, Start 15.30
Echelon and the electronic observation
Introduction:
Nicky Hager, New Zealand

Evening, Start 21.30
Forum 1: Immigration and Antiracism in the Europe of Schengen
Introdution:
Immigrant Group of Brescia, Italy
Paola Riccobelli (Social Worker in the Prostitute Milieu for the
Association
On the Road)
Forum 2: Citizenship and Work: Human Rights for all?
Introduction:
Stefano Garroni and others
Forum 3: The new right-wing movement and Antifacism
Introduction:
Withold Fischer, Eastern Germany
Willi Langthaler, Austria

Thursday, 3rd August

Morning, Start 9.30
· Presentation of the delegation from Palestine and Libanon
(The Communards, Libanon; Fidelity to Men and Earth, Palestine)
· Presentation of the delegation of Chile (Peoples’ and Indigena
Network of
Chile)
· Presentation of the delegation from the Sri Lanka (People’s
Liberation
Front, JVP)

Afternoon, Start 15.30
The Islam and the New World Order
Introduction:
Cultural Association of Hezbollah

Evening, Start 21.30
Forum 1: The libanese resistance against Zionism
Introduction:
Cultural Association of Hezbollah
Forum 2: The challenge of new communication technologies for a
revolutionary
project
Introduction:
Elías Letelier, Chile
Forum 3: Euskadi: Independence and repression
Introduction:
Basque Communists (EHK)

Friday, 4th August
Morning, Start 9.30
· Presentation of the delegation from Pakistan (Communist Party of
Pakistan)
· Presentation of the delegation from the Philippines (KMU, Trade
Union and
Member of Bayan)
· Presentation of the delegation from Venezuela (Federation of
University
Students of Venezuela, FEUV)

Afternoon, Start 15.30
The liberation struggle in Colombia
Introduction:
International Commission of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of
Colombia-People’s Army (FARC-EP)
International Front of the National Liberation Army (ELN)
Paul Emile Dupret (Adviser of the United European Left for Latin
America)

Evening, Start 21.30
Forum 1: Colombia: A new Vietnam? Task of the international
Solidarity-Movement
Forum 2: The future of the People of Assiria after the turn of PKK
Introduction:
Revolutionary Patriotic Organisation Bethnarin
Forum 3: Mexico after the elections: parliament or revolution?
Introduction:
Democratic Left of the People (IDP)
Independent Popular Front Francisco Villa
Saturday, 5th August

Morning, Start 9.30
Ecology, Biotechnology and Genetic Engineering: new tasks in the
struggle
against capitalism
Discussion table with
Laura Corradi, expert on environmental health, docent for medicine
sociology
on the University of Messina
Grazia Francescato, president of the Italian Green Party

Afternoon, Start 15.30
The Revolt of Seattle: a forward-looking example for the resistance in
the
West?
Introduction:
Grazia Francescato, president of the Italian Green Party
Norma G. Biñas, KMU, Philippines
Confederation of Peasants, France (inquired)

Evening
21.00: Greetings to the Participants
21.30: concert and closure


Sunday, 6th August
Departure


Throughout the entire week there will take place a seminary for
alternativ
communication and medias with Elías Letelier (Poet form Chile,
ex-officer of
the Sandinista National Liberation Army, Founding Member of the Network
of
Realtives and Friends of Political Prisoners of Chile)

On Friday at 11.00 there will take place a press conference with the
mass
media and a video transmission with all the delegations and organizers
of
the Camp

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Europe

01 Grazia Francescato, president of the Italian Green Party
02 Sard Nation
03 Father Jean Marie Benjamin; French popular Priest, activist against
globalisation, responsible for cultural affairs at the UNICEF
04 Paul Emile Dupret; adviser for the United European Left in the
European
Parliament
05 Communist Party of the Peoples of Spain
06 Asociation of Relatives and Friends of Political Prisoners (Spain)
07 Basque Communists
08 Oleg Shein (Russia); Member of the State Duma and independent trade
union
leader
09 Russian Party of Communists
10 Russian political union "Worker"
11 Movement New Left (Russia)
12 Worker’s Union (Russia)
13 Co-ordination Committee of the Workers Movement (Ucraine)
14 Communist Construction (Munich, Germany)
15 Workers Movement (Yugoslavia)
16 Worker’s Party of Yugoslavia
17 Socialist People’s Party (Yugoslavia)
18 League of Communists of Yugoslavia – Communist Party of Serbia
19 League of Communists of Yugoslavia – Communists of Montenegro
20 Red Action (Duisburg, Germany)
21 Revolutionary Communist League (Thuringia, Germany)
22 Group Mücadele (Germany)
23 League of Anti-imperialists, Communists and Socialists (Germany)
24 Irish Republican Socialist Party
25 International Leninist Current
26 International Forum (Denmark)
27 Action Committee 24th March (Thuringia, Germany)
28 Confederation of Sard Communists, Sardinia

Latin America

29 Latinamerican Coordination of Jurists, Social Scientists and Marginal
Groups for a Democratic and Popular Alternative (Brasil)
30 Marxist Leninist Communist Party (Brasil)
31 Trade Union of Public Empoyed (Volta Redonda, Brasil)
32 Independent Popular Front Francisco Villa (Mexico)
33 Democratic Popular Left (Mexico)
34 Free Center for Artist and Theatre Experimentation (Mexico)
35 Federation of University Students of Venezuela
36 Movement Free Fatherland (Paraguay)
37 Coordination against Police and Institutional Repression (Argentine)
38 Elías Letelier, poet from Chile and ex-official of the Sandinista
Liberation Army
39 Movement of the Revolutionary Left (Chile)
40 People’s and Indigenous Network Chile
41 Redskin Resistance (Bogota, Colombia)
42 Labor Worker’s Help (El Salvador/USA)
43 Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo (Argentine)
44 Support Group to Free Lori Berenson (Peru)
45 Liberation Party (Argentine)
46 General Council of Strike (UNAM, Mexico)
47 Emancipation Project, Popular Junta of Buenos Aires for the
Bolivarian
Congress of Latin America and the Caribbean Countries (Argentine)
48 Collective for International Information (Loxicha, Mexico)
49 Music Group “Cristal Andino” (Chile)
50 Movement of Unemployed Teresa Rodriguez (Argentine)
51 Independent Proletarian Movement (Mexico)
52 Group of ex-Political Prisoners, Relatives and Friends (Argentine)

North America

53 International Action Center
54 Socialist Freedom Party

Asia

55 All India Peoples’ Resistance Forum
56 Communist Party of Pakistan
57 Labour Party Pakistan
58 BAYAN International (Philippines, European Office)
59 People’s Liberation Front (Sri Lanka)
60 Communist Bund (Japain)
61 New Party for Social Equality (Sri Lanka)
62 United Workers Federation (Sri Lanka)
63 Committee for the Unification of the Revolutionary Left (Indian
Subcontinent)


Middle East

64 Loyalty for Men and Earth (Palestine/Lebanon)
65 Movement of Commoners (Libanon)
66 Revolutionary Patriotic Organisation Bethnarin
67 Revolutionary People's Liberation Front (DHKC, Turkey/Kurdistan)

Africa

68 African Liberation Forces of Mauretania
69 All-African Peoples’ Revolutionary Party (Ghana)
70 African Party for Democracy and Socialism (Senegal)

Australasia

71 Nicky Hager (New Zealand); expert for Echelon and electronic
surveillance-systems


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INTERVISTA A SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC, 21 aprile 1999

( http://www.marx2001.org/nuovaunita/jugo/crj/m_l/030699b.htm )


Mercoledì 21 aprile 1999 il canale KHOU-TV 11 di Houston ha trasmesso la
prima intervista rilasciata dal presidente jugoslavo Slobodan Milosevic
dall'inizio del coflitto con la NATO. Ecco ampi estratti
dell'intervista,
trasmessa dal telegiornale 11 alle 17.00, alle 18.00 e alle 22.00, e nel
corso di un programma di un'ora dalle 21.00 alle 22.00. L'intervista
esclusiva è stata condotta dall'analista di notizie militari di KHOU-TV,
il Dr. Ron Hatchett, nel "Palazzo bianco" jugoslavo di Belgrado Lunedì
19
aprile. Il Dr. Hatchett è corrispondente da Belgrado per la KHOU
dall'inizio dell'attacco NATO.

Oltre ad essere l'analista militare per la KHOU-TV, il Dr. Hatchett è
professore e direttore del Centro per gli Studi Internazionali
dell'Università di St. Thomas di Houston, Texas. E' stato al servizio
del
Governo degli Stati Uniti per questioni militari e governative e ha
coperto cariche direttive presso l'Aviazione degli Stati Uniti,
Dipartimento della Difesa, come Comandante Aggiunto della Commissione.

Trascrizione parziale dell'intervista.

Dr. Hatchett. - Presidente Milosevic, voglio ringraziarLa per avermi
accordato quest'incontro oggi, mentre fra i nostri due paesi vi sono
difficoltà tanto gravi. Penso che la nostra conversazione di oggi possa
aiutare il popolo americano a capire un po' m eglio cosa stia succedendo
in Serbia e quale sia il punto di vista serbo sul conflitto. Come Lei
sa,
Lei non è dipinto troppo bene nella stampa americana. Il Presidente
Clinton La definisce il macellaio dei Balcani, dice che Lei è un nuovo
Hitler, un pazzo, che Lei è la causa di tutti i problemi che abbiamo
avuto
nei Balcani negli ultimi 10 anni. Chi è Lei in realtà? Che tipo di
persona
è?

Presidente Milosevic - Bene, bella domanda. Ciò mi dà la possibilità di
spiegare al pubblico americano dove sta il problema. Il problema è il
seguente. Il vostro Governo sta conducendo due guerre contro la
Jugoslavia. Contro il nostro popolo. Una è la guerra militare, l'altra è
la guerra dei media, o, se preferisce, la guerra della propaganda. La
guerra della propaganda è inizi ata molto prima di quella militare, e il
suo scopo era demonizzare questo paese, il nostro popolo, il Governo di
questo paese, i singoli individui, e tutto ciò che serviva per creare,
naturalmente in modo artificiale, un'opinione pubblica negli Stati Unit
i
come supporto per l'aggressione che sarebbe stata commessa in seguito.
Così noi siamo vittime di entrambe queste guerre. Nel primo caso, nella
guerra militare, le vittime almeno per ora sono i nostri civili e la
nostra terra, ma nella guerra dei media le vittime non siamo solo noi.
Anche la democrazia americana ne è vittima.
Se mentite ai vostri cittadini e tentate continuamente di creare
un'opinione pubblica artificiale basata su informazioni false, su
informazioni sbagliate, non potete parlare di democrazia. Non potete
dire
al mondo che state facendo qualcosa di sacrosanto . Così, io credo che
contatti come questo e ancor più la presenza di molti giornalisti
stranieri nel nostro paese aiuteranno il mondo a conoscere la verità sul
nostro paese.

H. - Penso che il popolo americano vorrebbe sapere qualcosa di più su di
Lei come persona. Siete sempre stato un uomo politico, siete sempre
stato
in politica?

M. - Oh, no. Non ero affatto un politico. Di professione, ho lavorato a
lungo nell'industria, e poi sono diventato banchiere. Lo sono stato per
otto anni. Sono stato presidente della maggiore banca jugoslava. In quel
periodo ho avuto a che fare con molte banche americane e avevo molti
amici
negli Stati Uniti.

H. - La causa immediata dei problemi fra i nostri due paesi, secondo il
Presidente Clinton, è stato il rifiuto della Jugoslavia ad accettare i
termini dei negoziati in Francia, prima a Rambouillet, poi a Parigi.
Perché la Jugoslavia non ha sottoscritto l' accordo?

M. [sorride ironicamente] - Lei usa il termine "negoziati". Non c'è
stato
alcun negoziato, e il vostro pubblico lo deve sapere. In tutte quelle
lunghe tre settimane, due a Rambouillet e una a Parigi, non c'è stato
nemmeno un incontro in cui le due parti a bbiano potuto discutere. gli
Albanesi, i Serbi e gli altri membri delle delegazioni non si sono
potuti
scambiare una sola parola, e dunque non sono stati affatto dei
negoziati.
E guardate le delegazioni. Da una parte avete la delegazione della
Serbia,
composta da rappresentanti di tutti quelli che vivevano e che vivono nel
Kosovo. Rappresentanti di tutte le comunità nazionali. Serbi e Albanesi:
tre partiti albanesi erano rappres entati nella delegazione serba. Sono
cittadini di questo paese, naturalmente, ed è normale che ci fossero.
Serbi, Albanesi, Turchi, Musulmani, Zingari, Egiziani, Gorani. Tutte le
sette diverse comunità nazionali erano rappresentate nella delegazione.
Dall'altra parte c'era la delegazione di un movimento separatista, non
una
delegazione albanese. Gli Albanesi erano anche nella delegazione della
Serbia. Invece, la delegazione separatista era solo albanese, e questo
può
spiegare la differenza maggiore ne l nostro approccio. Fin dall'inizio
dei colloqui, il nostro approccio è stato che il problema del Kosovo può
essere risolto sulla base del principio di uguaglianza per tutti i
cittadini che vivono nella regione e di tutte le comunità nazionali che
vi
vivono. Il nostro approc cio è multietnico, multiculturale,
multireligioso, basato sull'uguaglianza fra le comunità nazionali a
prescindere dalla loro consistenza numerica. Dall'altra parte c'è
l'approccio del vostro Dipartimento di Stato in alleanza con quei tipi
del
movimento s eparatista che favorisce gli Albanesi. Un approccio che dà
loro il diritto di terrorizzare il resto della popolazione, e voi
dovreste
sapere qual'è la struttura della popolazione in Kosovo. I serbi lì sono
un quarto di milione, e i nonni dei loro nonni vivevano lì, prima che un
solo albanese scendesse dalle montagne. E' un antico territorio serbo
con
migliaia di monasteri e monumenti serbi, eccetera. E c'è un quarto di
milione di Serbi, 200. 000 Musulmani, 150.000 Egiziani, circa 50.000
Turchi. Anche i Turchi, che sono la comunità nazionale più piccola in
Kosovo, hanno le loro scuole e i loro programmi radio e TV. Hanno la
loro
casa editrice in lingua turca. E così, qual'è il problema se sono solo
50.000 contro, diciamo, 8 o 900.000 Albanesi? In termini di uguaglianza,
essi devono avere gli stessi diritti come comunità nazionale e devono
partecipare alle istituzioni del Kosovo in eguale misura, e questa era l
a
differenza cruciale fra i due approcci. In pratica, quello che si è
cercato di imporre a Rambouillet non era affatto l'autonomia, ma
l'indipendenza. E non credo proprio che se voi lo mostraste a un
qualsiasi
americano onesto, quello direbbe che al posto della nostra delegazione
avrebbe firmato.
Noi parliamo di autonomia, parliamo di qualità, di uguale approccio
agli
interessi di ogni comunità nazionale, non dell'indipendenza del
movimento
separatista albanese che sarebbe derivata da questi accordi, da questi
cosiddetti accordi. In pratica, il d iritto di organizzare un nuovo
Stato
entro i confini della Serbia. Il loro Stato ce l'hanno già: l'Albania è
il
loro Stato nazionale. In Serbia, essi sono una minoranza nazionale che
vive ovunque in Serbia, e voglio aggiungere qualcosa di molto importante
:
in Serbia ci sono 26 diverse minoranze nazionali. Non c'è mai stato
alcun
problema con nessuna delle minoranze nazionali in Serbia, inclusi gli
Albanesi. I problemi ci sono solo col movimento separatista albanese, e
per noi c'è una grande differenza fra il movimento separatista del
Kosovo
e il popolo alb anese, fatto di bravi e onesti cittadini come ogni altro
popolo in Jugoslavia. Del resto, nemmeno il movimento separatista aveva
mai ricorso alle armi prima che arrivaste voi. Prima che arrivasse il
vostro rappresentante a parlare con loro, a supportarli, ad allearsi con
quegli assassini, stupratori, rapitori e trafficanti di droga raccattati
dal sottobosco di tutta Europa per essere organizzati in un cosiddetto
esercito di liberazione del Kosovo che non è mai esistito. Non sono mai
stati in grado di attaccare la polizia o le unità militari, ma solo di
fare imboscate per ammazzare qualcuno, di mettere bombe sotto le
macchine
o davanti ai negozi, di prendere ostaggi, civili, lavoratori dalle
miniere
vicino a Prishtina, pe r esempio. Quegli ostaggi non li abbiamo più
rivisti, e temiamo che siano stati uccisi. Non conosciamo il loro
destino,
dove sono andati a finire. Così, non c'è stata alcuna loro azione che
non
possa essere definita un'atto terroristico. E comunque, mi ha molto
sorpreso che la NATO abbia potuto sminuire la propria dignità alleandosi
con quegli assassini e trafficanti di droga, e non penso che un simile
genere di alleanza possa aiutare il futuro.

H. - Tutti i giorni il popolo americano vede alla televisione tutte
quelle
scene strappacuore con i profughi albanesi. Le Nazioni Unite dicono che
attualmente ci sono 532.000 persone che hanno abbandonato il Kosovo. E
sembrano essere in uno stato molto tr aumatizzato. La vostra politica è
quella di espellere tutti gli Albanesi dal Kosovo?

M. - Non è mai stata la politica di questo paese né la mia di espellere
un
qualsiasi cittadino della Jugoslavia da alcuna parte del paese. Vi devo
dire che quando c'era la guerra in Croazia abbiamo difeso tutti i Croati
residenti in Serbia. Durante la gue rra in Bosnia proteggevamo tutti i
Muslmani di Serbia. Abbiamo difeso l'unico Stato multietnico entro i
confini della ex-Jugoslavia, ossia l'odierna Repubblica di Jugoslavia
con
26 diverse comunità nazionali. E molti visitatori, inclusi visitatori di
alto rango, hanno sempre detto che siamo un buon esempio di trattamento
positivo delle minoranze nazionali. E abbiamo sempre tenuto a mente che
l'esame per ogni democrazia consiste in come vengono trattate le
minoranze, non la maggioranza, e questa pratica è la politica della
Jugoslavia. Per rispondere alla Sua domanda sui profughi albanesi, Le
do
ragione: ci sono moltissimi profughi, ma sono un risultato dei
bombardamenti, e non sono solo Albanesi. Tutti stanno scappando a causa
delle bombe. Serbi, Turchi, Musulmani, ovviamente Albanesi, e sono in
numero maggiore. Scappano tutti. Scappano anche i cervi, scappano gli
uccelli, tutti stanno scappando a causa dei bombardamenti. Scappano
anche
le api, e nessuno può chiedere alla popolazione civile di fare gli eroi
rimanendo al loro posto mentre cadono le bombe. Non è possibile. E poi,
beh, lo sapete che prima del 24 marzo, prima che cominciassero questi
maledetti bombardamenti, questa sporca aggressione contro il nostro
paese,
non c'era un solo "profugo". Quando hanno cominciato a bombardare, sono
comparsi i profughi come risult ato dei bombardamenti: questo lo sanno
tutti. E comunque voi non buttate solo bombe dagli aerei, ma anche
volantini dove la NATO spiega le sue ragioni al nostro popolo. Lo sapete
cosa ne abbiamo fatto di questi foglietti coi messaggi della NATO? Loro
si
aspettavano che li avremmo raccolti e nascosti per non farli vedere ai
cittadini. Li abbiamo mostrati alla TV, quei foglietti, da entrambi i
lati. Li abbiamo fatti vedere alla televisione senza commento, perché
gli
undici milioni di cittadini di questo paese conoscono la verità. Noi non
abbiamo paura di mandare in onda la propaganda che la NATO ci riversa
addosso con questi umilianti foglietti. Umilianti per loro, per la loro
aviazione. Ma il vero problema riguarda gli Stati Uniti, voi non avete
protezione. La nostra difesa è la verità, e il fatto che la gente sa
qual'è la situazione. Gli Stati Uniti, l'americano medio non possono
sapere qual'è la verità, devono credere per forza alla pr opaganda, a
quei
cumuli di menzogne che vengono diffuse ogni giorno.

H. - Sa, questo è un problema dei media. C'era un comico americano degli
anni '20-'30, di nome Will Rogers, che diceva: "Tutto quello che so è
ciò
che ho letto nei giornali". Bene, per modernizzare, tutto ciò che il
popolo americano sa è quello che vede i n TV. Ma Lei come può spiegare
il
fatto che molti di questi profughi dal Kosovo dicono di essere stati
buttati fuori dalle loro case dai Serbi? Che spiegazione dà quando il
portavoce della NATO, Jamie Shea, mostra delle foto alla televisione e
dice che si tratta di immagini satellitari di qualcosa che crediamo
siano
fosse comuni, Lei questo come lo spiega?

M. - Quelli che avete visto alla televisione erano costretti a dire
quelle
cose. E da chi? Da questi personaggi, da questi assassini, stupratori e
rapitori che non stanno terrorizzando solo i Serbi e le altre etnie
non-albanesi del Kosovo, ma terrorizzano gli stessi Albanesi. Devo dirvi
che la situazione degli Albanesi del Kosovo è veramente tragica. Sì,
vengono manipolati da questi assassini e trafficanti di droga. Vi dico
un
semplice fatto: se guardate il numero di cittadini pacifici ammazzati in
Kosovo, il numero di Albanesi uccisi dal cosiddetto Esercito di
Liberazione del Kosovo è due volte maggi ore del numero dei Serbi.
Ammazzano gli Albanesi per disciplinarli, per fargli capire che tutti
devono sostenerli, per costringerli a farsi taglieggiare e rifugiarsi
sotto la loro cosiddetta bandiera. Cosa dovrebbe fare un normale
Albanese
quando viene mi nacciato di morte? E poi, ho visto coi miei occhi sulla
CNN all'inizio di questa guerra comitive di poveri profughi albanesi che
camminavano attraverso la neve, ma, sapete, anche in Kosovo c'è la
primavera, e di neve proprio non ce n'era. E questa sarebbe
l'informazione
del la CNN. Eh, eh... Noi la CNN la guardiamo, praticamente chiunque la
può vedere quando vuole. la CNN, Sky, la BBC, qui si prendono tutte, e
non
c'è niente di speciale che siano pagati per mentire. I mass media di
oggigiorno credo che siano l'arma più pericolosa, più di ques te bombe e
missili, e con la guerra della propaganda hanno cominciato molto prima
di
cominciare la guerra militare. Abbiamo detto pubblicamente che abbiamo
organizzato il ritorno di questi profughi, ma non possiamo contare su
una
cessazione dei bombardamenti e la gente ha paura. Un bel po' di quelli
che
stavano tornando sono stati bombardati dalla NATO: ne hanno ammazz ati
75
di nostri cittadini albanesi, e in parecchie dozzine sono stati feriti
gravemente. E così, come assicurare loro la sicurezza se sono esposti
ai
bombardamenti in questo modo? In un giorno di sole nessuno può fare
l'errore di confondere normali trattori e contadini con carri armati e
unità militari, è fuori questione. Io penso che sia sta to fatto a bella
posta per far sapere loro che tornare indietro non gli conviene. E' la
NATO che crea i profughi. La loro tattica è di crearne il più possibile,
di svuotare il Kosovo il più possibile. Avere tutti questi profughi
fuori
permette loro di dire che questo è l'alibi della NATO per intervenire,
per
portare aiuti umanitari e p ermettere ai profughi inermi di tornare a
casa. A casa ci potrebbero tornare immediatamente: l'unico ostacolo sono
i
bombardamenti della NATO. L'unico ostacolo al processo politico, che
pure
prosegue a dispetto dei bombardamenti, sono i bombardamenti.

H. - Parliamo del processo politico. E' chiaro che molta gente da
entrambe
le parti che non condivide il perseverare della NATO nella sua posizione
di intransigenza, nel tentativo di risolvere la questione solo
militarmente, e che pensano che i costi in t ermini economici e umani
sia
per il nostro paese che per il vostro finirà per essere molto più alto
di
quello che entrambi sono pronti a pagare. Penso che entrambi i popoli
vorrebbero vedere un qualche tipo di soluzione politica per questa
situazione, e se ci atteniamo alla linea intransigente da entrambe le
parti non ci potrà essere alcun progresso. E allora, che possibilità
vede
Lei per una solu zione politica del problema a breve scadenza?

M. - Bene, io penso che se termina l'aggressione, se terminano i
bombardamenti, sarà molto facile proseguire il processo politico, ma,
facendo tesoro dell'esperienza di Rambouillet e di Parigi, è chiaro che
i
negoziati dovranno svolgersi fra coloro che vi vranno in Kosovo. Fra i
rappresentanti delle comunità nazionali che vivono in Kosovo. Non fra i
rappresentanti del governo della Jugoslavia o del governo della Serbia
e,
diciamo, i rappresentanti della comunità internazionale. Abbiamo detto
molto chiaramente che accoglieremo una missione civile delle Nazioni
Unite
per controllare cosa succede qui e per controllare il processo di
riassetto politico, così come siamo stati sempre pronti ad accoglierla.
Guardate i fatti. Prima di q uesta guerra, abbiamo accettato una
missione
straniera. La più grande missione di verificazione straniera nella
storia,
2.000 di loro, più il personale ACNUR, la Croce Rossa internazionale e
mille giornalisti da tutto il mondo, più una missione diplomatic a per
il
Kosovo composta da tutte le missioni diplomatiche del paese, e poi dite
che non siamo aperti alla comunità internazionale. In una regione
piccola
come il Kosovo una presenza così massiccia di verificatori OCSE, ACNUR,
della Croce Rossa, di giornalisti stranieri e diplomatici, e ogni strada
aperta a tutti... Ma l'obiettivo non era questo. L'obiettivo era creare
instabilità per poter iniziare a bombardare. A Rambouillet, come Le ho
detto, non abbiamo parlato con gli Albanesi, ma con gli Americani che
vorrebbero prendersi il nostro territorio per sé e per la NATO. Gli
Albanesi erano solo una scusa. Gli Americani se li tenevano da parte
come
alibi per compier e questi crimini contro il nostro paese e il nostro
popolo. E le vittime non vengono scelte in modo selettivo. Tutti sono
vittime, soprattutto i bambini, le donne, la gente, e sempre civili,
civili e civili...

H. - Accettereste come parte di un accordo la reintroduzione in Kosovo
dell'autonomia che aveva fino al 1989?

M. - Naturalmente noi non abbiamo bisogno di cambiare la nostra
posizione
per un motivo molto semplice: noi non abbiamo mai avuto intenzione di
privare gli Albanesi, che sono nostri cittadini, di alcun diritto. Non
ci
siamo mai sognati di danneggiarli, ma è chiaro che vivendo in questo
paese
essi non possono prenderne un pezzo e farne uno Stato indipendente. Se
la
formula che qui si cerca di affermare entrasse in vigore in tutto il
mondo, non vedo neanche uno stato nel mondo che sopravviverebbe.
Guardate
l'Europa: la Spagna, la Francia, il Belgio, l'Italia. Guardate l'Africa.
In Africa non c'è neanche un paes e che sopravviverebbe se si desse un
qualsivoglia tipo di appoggio legale a questi movimenti separatisti. Se
questa diventa la pratica, nessun paese si salverebbe. Noi non ci stiamo
opponendo alle grandi potenze solo per difendere noi stessi. Io penso
che
stiamo difendendo il diritto alla libertà e all'indipendenza e il
diritto
di vivere in pace. Questo è ciò che stiamo facendo.

H. - Voi sareste disposti, nell'ambito di un accordo negoziale, ad
accettare una qualche forma di presenza internazionale che verifichi
quanto le cose che verranno concordate per l'autonomia degli albanesi e
i
loro diritti di cittadini siano lealmente realizzate?

M. - Naturalmente. Siamo pronti ad accettare una missione civile
dell'ONU.
Naturalmente senza rappresentanti dei paesi che hanno partecipato
all'aggressione contro il nostro paese. Lo abbiamo detto chiaramente.
Siamo pronti. Non abbiamo nulla da nascondere.

H. - E permettereste anche alle missioni di aiuto e di solidarietà
internazionale di tornare al lavoro?

M. - Certamente. Anche adesso potrebbero tornare, ma hanno paura. Noi
non
li abbiamo mai cacciati. Avevano paura dei bombardamenti. Loro stessi
hanno spiegato così il fatto che non sono rimasti in Kosovo. Per
esempio
la Croce Rossa Internazionale: loro intervengono ovunque nei conflitti,
ma
come salvarsi dai bombardamenti? Sono fuggiti dal Kosovo, proprio come i
civili. Non sono stati cacciati, se ne sono semplicemente andati per
salvarsi la vita. Chi si p uò proteggere dalle bombe?

H. - Lei pensa che anche adesso, mentre proseguono i bombardamenti, se
la
Croce Rossa Internazionale o altri istituti volessero tornare nel
Kosovo,
sarebbe loro permesso?

M. - Anche adesso. La Croce Rossa Internazionale e l'ACNUR possono
tornare. Non posso dirlo di ogni singola organizzazione umanitaria,
perché
alcune di queste cosiddette organizzazioni umanitarie erano organizzate
per sostenere il terrorismo o il moviment o separatista standosene sotto
l'ombrello del cosiddetto contingente umanitario. La nostra polizia ha
arrestato un paio di cittadini australiani che stavano organizzando un
circuito di spionaggio in Jugoslavia. Lo hanno ammesso davanti alle
telecamere. Hanno detto che stavano svolgendo un'attività spionistica
per
conto della NATO, per rivelare le nostre posizioni da bombardare, gli
esiti dei bombardamenti, eccetera. Hanno anche spiegato come si erano
serviti di personale locale per questo. Così, io credo che la Croce
Rossa
Internazionale e l'ACNUR possano soddisfare tutti i bisogni se si
vogliono
aiutare i profughi. Ed è una cosa che non è mai stata in questione.
Possono venire quando vogliono.

H. - Un'altra cosa che sta molto a cuore al popolo americano, Sig.
Milosevic, è il fatto dei tre americani tenuti qui come prigionieri di
guerra. Lei può assicurare il popolo americano che sono in buona salute
tutti e tre? E che tutti e tre sono trattati in modo umano?

M. - Beh, nella situazione in cui siamo penso che il problema dovrebbe
essere piuttosto: cosa ne è stato di tutti i civili vittime dei vostri
soldati e dei vostri piloti? E spero proprio che prima o poi comincerete
a
pensarci. Ma per rispondere alla Sua d omanda, noi siamo un popolo
d'Europa molto antico, con una lunga tradizione, e rispettiamo i
prigionieri di guerra. Ai vostri soldati non succederà nulla. Sono
trattati bene, sono in salute e il Trattato di Ginevra viene rispettato
in
ogni parte. Noi siam o un popolo civile. Non faremo niente di male ai
vostri ragazzi in prigione.

[I "ragazzi" vennero liberati poco dopo. Al loro ritorno in patria, fu
loro proibito di rilasciare interviste di sorta e, abbondantemente
decorati, vennero subito mandati in licenza. Recentemente sono
ricomparsi
come testimonial di Disneyland: vedi la fot o su "Il Manifesto" del
28\V,
in cui i tre, in carne ed ossa e in divisa, fanno bella mostra di sé su
un
carro allegorico, fra palloncini e immagini di Mickey Mouse, sovrastati
da
una gigantesca bandiera americana recante i loro nomi e la scritta
cubitale "Disneyland welcomes home". Nessun concreto gesto di
distensione
è seguito da parte del governo americano. - NdT].

H. - Un'ultima domanda. A Belgrado si sentono frequenti voci sul fatto
che
sarebbero stati abbattuti molti più aerei di quelli ammessi dalla stampa
o
dall'amministtrazione americana, si parla di 80 areoplani abbattuti, che
ci potrebbero essere altri pilot i dei paesi NATO e degli Stati Uniti
fatti prigionieri. Abbiamo anche sentito voci su scontri a fuoco delle
vostre forze in Kosovo con le truppe speciali degli Stati Uniti e con le
Unità Aeree Speciali britanniche. E che aveteucciso forse 20, 24 di
questi
soldati speciali che sono penetrati nel Kosovo. Sono solo voci o sono
fatti?

M. - Sa, non è tutto bianco o nero. Non Le posso dire che sono solo voci
o
che sono fatti: è tutto mescolato. Alcuni sono fatti e altre sono voci.
Ed
è logico che la NATO non lo ammetta. Hanno sempre cercato di negare
l'uccisione di tutti quei profughi. S olo quando hanno visto che era
inevitabile hanno detto che sì, era accaduto. Del resto è logico. Al
momento, allo stato presente non abbiamo truppe straniere sul nostro
territorio, inclusi quegli esperti che Lei ha menzionato. Non che non ci
siano stati diversi tentativi di sconfinamento, ma erano sempre
Albanesi.
Soldati albanesi mescolati a quei banditi del Kosovo in unità, diciamo,
composte di 1.000 o 1.500 uomini che cercavano di passare la frontiera e
di penetrare nel territorio del Kosovo, ma sono sempre stati bloccati
dal
nostro esercito. Hanno avuto molte perdite e comunqu e non sono affatto
un
esercito. Le devo dire che chiunque pensi di reclutare quei criminali in
un qualche tipo di unità militare non sa molto di loro. Scappano al
primo
sparo e lo hanno sempre dimostrato. Tutte le volte che hanno cercato di
oltrepassare i confini se ne sono subito riscappati indietro. E'
successo
tante di quelle volte... Se c'erano istruttori di origine straniera, non
si sono visti. In pratica, i vostri bombardamenti distruggono per prima
cosa le Nazioni Unite, distruggono la verità, e naturalmente, che è la
cosa più triste per noi, ammazzano i nostri civili, devastano le nostre
fabbriche, i ponti, le aree residenziali e tutto il res to... C'è un
messaggio che forse lei ha visto scritto in moltissimi posti, in tutta
la
Jugoslavia. Io l'ho visto in molti altri paesi, ad esempio a
Tessalonica,
a quelle manifestazioni con tutta quella gente, milioni di persone ad
Atene, in Ungheria, a Düsseldo rf, a Vienna, in un sacco di posti, e
quel
messaggio diceva: "Basta con le bombe, basta con le bugie". Queste due
cose vanno assieme, queste due guerre che state conducendo contro un
piccolo paese indipendente e sovrano lontano cinquemila miglia dalla
vostra costa. Perché? Mi può spiegare perché, e qual'è l'interesse
nazionale dell'America? Ci venite a dire che nei nostri antichi
territori
il vostro interesse nazionale è più forte degli interessi nazionali
della
Serbia... Perché lo fate? Qual'è la ragione di tutto ciò? Quando i
nostri
soldati muoiono, lo sanno per cosa muoiono. Muoiono per il loro paese,
per
la loro patria, ma i vostri soldati, a cinquemila miglia da casa, per
che
cosa muoiono? Per ammazzare i bambini nel sonno? Per massacrare donne,
ragazze, pacifici c ittadini e per devastare tutto ciò che abbiamo
costruito nei decenni dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale? E la cosa più
assurda è che noi in quella guerra eravamo alleati, mentre ora avete
deciso di sostenere il processo di separazione, il movimento
separatista,
che poi nei fatti non è nemmeno un movimento, e vi dico perché. Chiaro
chiaro, il loro scopo pubbl icamente dichiarato è un Kosovo etnicamente
puro. In Jugoslavia sappiamo che proprio il fatto di avere 26 comunità
nazionali è l'unica base su cui il nostro paese può vivere. E poi, da
un
punto di vista storico, quelli sono solo degli epigoni. E' stato
Mussolini
a creare una Grande Albania nella Seconda Guerra Mondiale. Una creazione
fascista che prendeva parte del Kosovo, parte della Macedonia e parte
della Grecia: quella era la cosiddetta Grande Albania di Mussolini.
Anche
questi sono nazisti: il loro carattere fascista è chiarissimo. Ma non
mi
stancherò mai di ripeterlo: noi facciamo una grande differenza fra il
movimento separatista e la popolazone albanese che vive nel nostro
paese.
Noi questa popolazione la vogliamo aiutare, naturalmente anche
eliminando
il movimento separatista co me farebbe ogni altro paese nel mondo. Penso
che ci siano almeno cento paesi nel mondo che hanno problemi con un
qualche tipo di movimento separatista, ma solo questo paese viene
bombardato dalla più forte e potente macchina da guerra che sia mai
esistita al mondo. Ma chi avrà gloria da questa tecnologia potente e
avanzatissima che devasta una piccola nazione indipendente, membro delle
Nazioni Unite? E che aspetto avrà il mondo dopo questa bella impresa? Il
mondo deve essere libero. Ogni paese, ogni popolo ha il diritto di
vivere
in libertà, di non venire occupato e terrorizzato da superpotenze che
gli
vogliono dire come vivere, cosa fare, come pensare e come comportarsi.
Non
possiamo separare la pace dalla libertà. Se un popolo vuole vivere in
pace, deve essere libero. E qui, su un territorio per il quale stiamo
combattendo da secoli contro grandi imperi, nel corso di tutta la nostra
storia, non c'è stata nemmeno una generazione che non abbia dovuto
combattere per l a libertà. Siamo sempre stati obiettivo di conquista
di
imperi, di imperi molto grandi. L'impero Ottomano, l'impero
Austro-Ungarico, o la grande macchina bellica di Hitler, e ogni volta
siamo riusciti a liberare il nostro paese. Ed è quello che stiamo
facendo
adesso . Io credo nel futuro. Credo nella pace, nell'uguaglianza e
nella
libertà. E non solo per questo paese, ma per tutti, contro il dominio
delle grandi potenze. Esercitano già un dominio abbastanza grande come
superpotenze, e non hanno bisogno di un ulteriore dominio sul resto del
mondo.

H. - Presidente Milosevic, La voglio ringraziare per avere aiutato il
popolo americano a capire il vostro punto di vista oggi con noi, e
speriamo di poter risolvere molto presto questo problema pacificamente.
Grazie.

M. - Lei è sempre benvenuto.

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