Informazione
> http://www.ansa.it/balcani/jugoslavia/20020109140332098527.html
MILOSEVIC: TPI, EX PRESIDENTE CONTESTA LEGITTIMITA' CORTE
(ANSA) - BRUXELLES, 9 GEN - L'ex presidente jugoslavo Slobodan
Milosevic ha nuovamente contestato oggi all'Aja la
legittimita' del Tribunale penale internazionale nel corso dell'ultima
udienza preparatoria del processo che deve iniziare il 12 febbraio.
Intervenendo in chiusura dell'udienza, Milosevic ha accusato il Tpi
di volere ''giustificare i crimini commessi dalla Nato contro il mio
paese''. L'ex presidente jugoslavo ha anche contestato la neutralita'
e l'imparzialita' della corte giudicante presieduta dal britannico
Richard May. ''Una corte deve essere neutrale, imparziale, senza
partito preso: ma che cosa vediamo qui? Il giudice e' britannico e
l'atto d'accusa contro di me e' stato preparato sulla base delle
informazioni fornite dai servizi segreti britannici'' ha affermato
Milosevic, il cui breve intervento e' stato piu' volte interrotto da
May. Il presidente della camera del Tpi ha invitato Milosevic, che
non ha nominato un avvocato difensore, ad attenersi alle questioni
procedurali, invitandolo a riservare gli interventi di caratttere
generale all'inizio del processo. (ANSA). CEF 09/01/2002 14:03
> http://www.ansa.it/balcani/jugoslavia/20011219181632083019.html
JUGOSLAVIA: TPI, MILOSEVIC VUOLE CLINTON COME TESTIMONE
(ANSA) - BELGRADO, 19 DIC - Slobodan Milosevic chiamera' l'ex
presidente degli Stati Uniti Bill Clinton a testimoniare al
processo per crimini di guerra davanti al Tribunale penale
internazionale per la ex Jugoslavia. Lo ha annunciato a Belgrado
Ivica Dacic, alto funzionario del Partito socialista, il partito
di Milosevic. Dacic ha dichiarato al settimanale Nedelnji Telegraf
che Milosevic chiedera' la presenza al processo, in qualita' di
testimoni, di tutti i governanti di paesi che hanno trattato con
lui, in modo pubblico e segreto, o che hanno avuto con lui contatti
a livello politico, per risolvere la crisi nei Balcani. ''Non
bisogna dimenticare che l'amministrazione Clinton - ha detto Dacic al
settimanale - aveva pubblicamente indicato Milosevic come fattore di
pace e stabilita' nei Balcani''. L'avvocato di Milosevic a Belgrado
Dragoslav Ognjanovic ha dichiarato di non sapere se Clinton sara'
chiamato a testimoniare, ma ha assicurato che qualche politico lo
sara' di certo, visto che Milosevic considera che il processo contro
di lui sia un atto politico. L'avvocato ha poi aggiunto che il
tribunale ha organizzato una seduta per il 9 gennaio, che precedera'
il processo, in cui saranno forse annunciati i nomi dei testimoni.
La settimana scorsa al tribunale dell'Aja, Milosevic, che ha
perso il potere in Jugoslavia in seguito ad una rivolta popolare
nell'ottobre 2000, aveva respinto l'accusa di genocidio per la Bosnia.
Milosevic deve anche rispondere delle accuse di crimini contro
l'umanita' e altri crimini per la guerra in Croazia e per il conflitto
in Kosovo. (ANSA). COR-BBB 19/12/2001 18:16
+++ Den Haag: Letzte Anhörung Milosevics +++
DEN HAAG, 10. Januar 2002. Gestern erschien der in Den Haag
inhaftierte ehemalige jugoslawische Bundespräsident Slobodan
Milosevic in der letzten Anhörung vor Beginn des Prozesses vor
dem "Kriegsverbrechertribunal". Ihm wurde mehrmals das Mikrofon
abgeschaltet und schließlich wurde er endgültig am Reden
verhindert. Milosevic sagte, daß die "Verbrechen" gegen ethnische
Albaner in Jugoslawien, die ihm angelastet werden,
merkwürdigerweise gerade während der 78-tägigen NATO-Aggression
gegen Jugoslawien stattgefunden haben sollen, was offensichtlich
ein Versuch ist, die verbrecherische Agression, bei der mehr als
3.000 Menschen getötet wurden, zu rechtfertigen.
Einer der drei vom Tribunal bestimmten "amici curiae" sagte, daß
die Materialien der Regieurng Serbiens über das Wirken der
albanischen Terororganisation UCK "zu umfangreich" seien und das
sie daher nicht bearbeitet werden können.
Die russische Tageszeitung "Sovjetskaja Rossija" verlieh
vorgestern Milosevic die Premie "Slovo narodu" ("Das Wort dem
Volke") für sein Wirken im Jahr 2001.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,630237,00.html
Milosevic attacks Hague tribunal for British bias
Ian Black in Brussels
Thursday January 10, 2002
The Guardian
Slobodan Milosevic launched a blistering attack on
Britain yesterday as the Hague war crimes tribunal
finalised arrangements for his historic trial, due to
start next month.
Checking his watch to display contempt as the UN court
discussed witnesses and evidence relating to charges
over Kosovo, the former Yugoslav president complained
that the fact he was facing a British judge was
evidence of bias.
Judge Richard May, presiding over the three-man bench
with colleagues from Korea and Jamaica, cut off Mr
Milosevic's microphone and left the courtroom, saying:
"This is not the time for speeches. We have listened
to you patiently."
Making his fifth appearance since being handed over
last year, Mr Milosevic also accused prosecutors of
following British intelligence reports about ethnic
cleansing in Kosovo.
"Look at this court," he said. "Courts should be
impartial. The indictment has been raised according to
what the British intelligence service has said. The
judge is an Englishman."
Tribunal sources said they were pleased Mr Milosevic
finally appeared to be engaging positively in his own
defence.
Lawyers for Mr Milosevic said that he now wanted to
call witnesses, which would include the former US
president Bill Clinton, the prime minister, Tony
Blair, the former foreign secretary Robin Cook, and
Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state at the
time of the Kosovo conflict. However, no formal
request has been made to the court.
The court has entered not guilty pleas on his behalf
to all three indictments and appointed three
international lawyers as "friends of the court" to
ensure a fair trial.
Mr Milosevic is due to go on trial on February 12,
accused of responsibility for the Serb campaign of
killings and expulsions of Kosovo Albanians in 1999.
Unless prosecutors change the court's mind in the next
few weeks, he will then face a separate trial on
charges of crimes against humanity and genocide in
Croatia in 1991 and in Bosnia from 1992-95.
The Kosovo indictment accuses Mr Milosevic and four
other senior Serbs of responsibility for the murder of
900 Kosovo Albanians and the expulsion of 800,000
civilians from their homes.
Mr Milosevic did his best to look bored and
uninterested, but attacked as soon as Judge May gave
him the floor, insisting that Nato, not Belgrade,
should be in the dock.
"All this is geared towards a construed justification
for the crimes committed during the Nato aggression on
my nation," Mr Milosevic said.
"Quite obviously the intention is to [portray] those
who defended their families... and country as
criminals and evil people."
Prosecutors asked judges to withhold witnesses'
identities before they testify to avoid any
possibility of intimidation. Judge Patrick Robinson
refused the request in the interests of ensuring
proceedings were consistently transparent.
He added: "We have to make sure he gets a fair trial -
that is our fundamental obligation."
===*===
Eine Satire
Eine Kurznotiz, wie sie kleiner nicht sein
könnte, war am 31.12.2001 im Kurier zu
finden:
Prominente Zeugen gegen Milosevic
DEN HAAG - Im Kriegsverbrecherprozess gegen
den jugoslawischen Ex-Präsidenten Milosevic
will die Anklage 200 Zeugen aufrufen,
darunter Schlüsselfiguren der Kosovo-Krise
wie Albanerführer Ibrahim Rugova oder den
ehemaligen Leiter der OSZE-Mission William
Walker.
William Walker? Tatsächlich wird William
Walker als Zeuge im sogenannten
Kriegsverbrecherprozess gegen Slobodan
Milosevic befragt werden? Ein kleiner
Rückblick lohnt sich, wenn man wissen will,
warum William Walker als prominent im
wahrsten Sinne des Wortes bezeichnet werden
kann:
Im Oktober 1998 begann die OSZE mit dem
Aufbau einer Beobachtermission in Pristina,
im März 1999 zog sie sich nach Mazedonien
zurück. Ihr Chef war der
US-Karrierediplomat William Graham Walker,
Jahrgang 1935, 37 Jahre im Dienst des State
Department, der bereits während seiner
früheren Diplomateneinsätze in Mittel- und
Südamerika einige heikle Aufgaben für die
CIA erledigt hatte. Die New Yorker Workers
World Newspaper vom 28. Januar 1999
beschreibt Walker in ihrem Artikel:
»Kriegsbeil hinter der US-Kosovo- Politik«:
»Es ist wichtig, dass die Welt weiß, wer
Walker ist: ein Militärveteran des
US-State-Department, der den schmutzigen
Krieg gegen Nicaragua und El Salvador in
den 80er Jahren leitete, und der über jeden
Aspekt dieses Krieges log. 1985 wurde er
stellvertretender Staatssekretär für
Zentralamerika. Er war der Verantwortliche
im Weißen Haus unter Reagan für die
Operation zum Sturz der Regierung
Nicaraguas.
Geleitet wurde die Operation von Oliver
North und Eliot Abrams. Walker war
beispielsweise verantwortlich für die
Waffenlieferungen, die als humanitäre
Aktion getarnt, über den Flughafen Ilopango
in El Salvador abgewickelt wurden, um die
Contra-Banden gegen Nicaragua zu
unterstützen. Später war Walker von 1988
bis 1992 US- Botschafter in El Salvador,
dort herrschten zu jener Zeit die
Todesschwadronen, von denen viele auf
US-Militärschulen trainiert wurden.«
Im Zusammenhang mit der falschen
Darstellung des sogenannten Massakers von
Racak wurde Walker wegen Mißbrauchs seiner
Aufgaben als Diplomat und OSZE- Vertreter
von der Regierung der BR Jugoslawiens
ausgewiesen. Eine Gruppe finnischer
Gerichtsmediziner unter der Leitung von
Frau Helena Ranta war zu dem Schluß
gekommen, dass es keinerlei Anhaltspunkte
für ein Massaker gäbe. Bei einem einzigen
Opfer seien Pulverspuren zu finden gewesen,
die auf eine Exekution hindeuten könnten,
bei allen anderen sei dies auszuschließen.
Wenn es kein Massaker war, kann es nur ein
Gefecht gewesen sein. Ein für die UCK
verlustreiches Gefecht. Falls es unter den
Opfern auch Zivilisten gab, dann aus dem
Grund, dass dieses Dorf nicht die Unschuld
vom Lande war, sondern eine befestigte
Stellung.
Die kroatischen Serben warfen Walker
außerdem vor, als Leiter der
Übergangsverwaltung von Ostslawonien
1996/97 massiv die kroatische Politik der
ethnischen Säuberung unterstützt zu haben.
CIA-Mann Walker wurde im November 1999 in
Pristina von Kosovo-Albanern zum
Ehrenbürger gekürt - ein Ehrenbüger mit
Blut auf seinen Händen.
Ibrahim Rugova, glühender albanischer
Nationalist und überzeugter Separatist,
illegal ausgerufener Präsident des Kosovo,
wird ebenfalls als Zeuge auftreten. Weder
bei William Walker, noch bei Ibrahim Rugova
kann man wohl kaum mit einer objektiven,
schon gar nicht von einer neutralen Aussage
bei dem kommenden Prozess gegen Milosevic
rechnen, egal wie man jetzt zur Person
Milosevic stehen mag.
Aber ein fairer Prozess war auch nicht zu
erwarten. Wer die anderen 198 Zeugen sein
werden, das weiss niemand. Vielleicht wird
eine weitere Kurznotiz mehr Aufschluss
darüber geben.
Und überlesen werden.
Quellen: Kurier, junge welt, NZZ, New
Yorker Workers World Newspaper
**************************************
Jugoslawisch Österreichische
Solidaritätsbewegung JÖSB
PF 217
A-1040 Wien
Tel&Fax: (+43 1) 924 31 61
joesb@...
http://www.vorstadtzentrum.net/joesb
**************************************
MILOSEVIC: TPI, EX PRESIDENTE CONTESTA LEGITTIMITA' CORTE
(ANSA) - BRUXELLES, 9 GEN - L'ex presidente jugoslavo Slobodan
Milosevic ha nuovamente contestato oggi all'Aja la
legittimita' del Tribunale penale internazionale nel corso dell'ultima
udienza preparatoria del processo che deve iniziare il 12 febbraio.
Intervenendo in chiusura dell'udienza, Milosevic ha accusato il Tpi
di volere ''giustificare i crimini commessi dalla Nato contro il mio
paese''. L'ex presidente jugoslavo ha anche contestato la neutralita'
e l'imparzialita' della corte giudicante presieduta dal britannico
Richard May. ''Una corte deve essere neutrale, imparziale, senza
partito preso: ma che cosa vediamo qui? Il giudice e' britannico e
l'atto d'accusa contro di me e' stato preparato sulla base delle
informazioni fornite dai servizi segreti britannici'' ha affermato
Milosevic, il cui breve intervento e' stato piu' volte interrotto da
May. Il presidente della camera del Tpi ha invitato Milosevic, che
non ha nominato un avvocato difensore, ad attenersi alle questioni
procedurali, invitandolo a riservare gli interventi di caratttere
generale all'inizio del processo. (ANSA). CEF 09/01/2002 14:03
> http://www.ansa.it/balcani/jugoslavia/20011219181632083019.html
JUGOSLAVIA: TPI, MILOSEVIC VUOLE CLINTON COME TESTIMONE
(ANSA) - BELGRADO, 19 DIC - Slobodan Milosevic chiamera' l'ex
presidente degli Stati Uniti Bill Clinton a testimoniare al
processo per crimini di guerra davanti al Tribunale penale
internazionale per la ex Jugoslavia. Lo ha annunciato a Belgrado
Ivica Dacic, alto funzionario del Partito socialista, il partito
di Milosevic. Dacic ha dichiarato al settimanale Nedelnji Telegraf
che Milosevic chiedera' la presenza al processo, in qualita' di
testimoni, di tutti i governanti di paesi che hanno trattato con
lui, in modo pubblico e segreto, o che hanno avuto con lui contatti
a livello politico, per risolvere la crisi nei Balcani. ''Non
bisogna dimenticare che l'amministrazione Clinton - ha detto Dacic al
settimanale - aveva pubblicamente indicato Milosevic come fattore di
pace e stabilita' nei Balcani''. L'avvocato di Milosevic a Belgrado
Dragoslav Ognjanovic ha dichiarato di non sapere se Clinton sara'
chiamato a testimoniare, ma ha assicurato che qualche politico lo
sara' di certo, visto che Milosevic considera che il processo contro
di lui sia un atto politico. L'avvocato ha poi aggiunto che il
tribunale ha organizzato una seduta per il 9 gennaio, che precedera'
il processo, in cui saranno forse annunciati i nomi dei testimoni.
La settimana scorsa al tribunale dell'Aja, Milosevic, che ha
perso il potere in Jugoslavia in seguito ad una rivolta popolare
nell'ottobre 2000, aveva respinto l'accusa di genocidio per la Bosnia.
Milosevic deve anche rispondere delle accuse di crimini contro
l'umanita' e altri crimini per la guerra in Croazia e per il conflitto
in Kosovo. (ANSA). COR-BBB 19/12/2001 18:16
+++ Den Haag: Letzte Anhörung Milosevics +++
DEN HAAG, 10. Januar 2002. Gestern erschien der in Den Haag
inhaftierte ehemalige jugoslawische Bundespräsident Slobodan
Milosevic in der letzten Anhörung vor Beginn des Prozesses vor
dem "Kriegsverbrechertribunal". Ihm wurde mehrmals das Mikrofon
abgeschaltet und schließlich wurde er endgültig am Reden
verhindert. Milosevic sagte, daß die "Verbrechen" gegen ethnische
Albaner in Jugoslawien, die ihm angelastet werden,
merkwürdigerweise gerade während der 78-tägigen NATO-Aggression
gegen Jugoslawien stattgefunden haben sollen, was offensichtlich
ein Versuch ist, die verbrecherische Agression, bei der mehr als
3.000 Menschen getötet wurden, zu rechtfertigen.
Einer der drei vom Tribunal bestimmten "amici curiae" sagte, daß
die Materialien der Regieurng Serbiens über das Wirken der
albanischen Terororganisation UCK "zu umfangreich" seien und das
sie daher nicht bearbeitet werden können.
Die russische Tageszeitung "Sovjetskaja Rossija" verlieh
vorgestern Milosevic die Premie "Slovo narodu" ("Das Wort dem
Volke") für sein Wirken im Jahr 2001.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,630237,00.html
Milosevic attacks Hague tribunal for British bias
Ian Black in Brussels
Thursday January 10, 2002
The Guardian
Slobodan Milosevic launched a blistering attack on
Britain yesterday as the Hague war crimes tribunal
finalised arrangements for his historic trial, due to
start next month.
Checking his watch to display contempt as the UN court
discussed witnesses and evidence relating to charges
over Kosovo, the former Yugoslav president complained
that the fact he was facing a British judge was
evidence of bias.
Judge Richard May, presiding over the three-man bench
with colleagues from Korea and Jamaica, cut off Mr
Milosevic's microphone and left the courtroom, saying:
"This is not the time for speeches. We have listened
to you patiently."
Making his fifth appearance since being handed over
last year, Mr Milosevic also accused prosecutors of
following British intelligence reports about ethnic
cleansing in Kosovo.
"Look at this court," he said. "Courts should be
impartial. The indictment has been raised according to
what the British intelligence service has said. The
judge is an Englishman."
Tribunal sources said they were pleased Mr Milosevic
finally appeared to be engaging positively in his own
defence.
Lawyers for Mr Milosevic said that he now wanted to
call witnesses, which would include the former US
president Bill Clinton, the prime minister, Tony
Blair, the former foreign secretary Robin Cook, and
Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state at the
time of the Kosovo conflict. However, no formal
request has been made to the court.
The court has entered not guilty pleas on his behalf
to all three indictments and appointed three
international lawyers as "friends of the court" to
ensure a fair trial.
Mr Milosevic is due to go on trial on February 12,
accused of responsibility for the Serb campaign of
killings and expulsions of Kosovo Albanians in 1999.
Unless prosecutors change the court's mind in the next
few weeks, he will then face a separate trial on
charges of crimes against humanity and genocide in
Croatia in 1991 and in Bosnia from 1992-95.
The Kosovo indictment accuses Mr Milosevic and four
other senior Serbs of responsibility for the murder of
900 Kosovo Albanians and the expulsion of 800,000
civilians from their homes.
Mr Milosevic did his best to look bored and
uninterested, but attacked as soon as Judge May gave
him the floor, insisting that Nato, not Belgrade,
should be in the dock.
"All this is geared towards a construed justification
for the crimes committed during the Nato aggression on
my nation," Mr Milosevic said.
"Quite obviously the intention is to [portray] those
who defended their families... and country as
criminals and evil people."
Prosecutors asked judges to withhold witnesses'
identities before they testify to avoid any
possibility of intimidation. Judge Patrick Robinson
refused the request in the interests of ensuring
proceedings were consistently transparent.
He added: "We have to make sure he gets a fair trial -
that is our fundamental obligation."
===*===
Eine Satire
Eine Kurznotiz, wie sie kleiner nicht sein
könnte, war am 31.12.2001 im Kurier zu
finden:
Prominente Zeugen gegen Milosevic
DEN HAAG - Im Kriegsverbrecherprozess gegen
den jugoslawischen Ex-Präsidenten Milosevic
will die Anklage 200 Zeugen aufrufen,
darunter Schlüsselfiguren der Kosovo-Krise
wie Albanerführer Ibrahim Rugova oder den
ehemaligen Leiter der OSZE-Mission William
Walker.
William Walker? Tatsächlich wird William
Walker als Zeuge im sogenannten
Kriegsverbrecherprozess gegen Slobodan
Milosevic befragt werden? Ein kleiner
Rückblick lohnt sich, wenn man wissen will,
warum William Walker als prominent im
wahrsten Sinne des Wortes bezeichnet werden
kann:
Im Oktober 1998 begann die OSZE mit dem
Aufbau einer Beobachtermission in Pristina,
im März 1999 zog sie sich nach Mazedonien
zurück. Ihr Chef war der
US-Karrierediplomat William Graham Walker,
Jahrgang 1935, 37 Jahre im Dienst des State
Department, der bereits während seiner
früheren Diplomateneinsätze in Mittel- und
Südamerika einige heikle Aufgaben für die
CIA erledigt hatte. Die New Yorker Workers
World Newspaper vom 28. Januar 1999
beschreibt Walker in ihrem Artikel:
»Kriegsbeil hinter der US-Kosovo- Politik«:
»Es ist wichtig, dass die Welt weiß, wer
Walker ist: ein Militärveteran des
US-State-Department, der den schmutzigen
Krieg gegen Nicaragua und El Salvador in
den 80er Jahren leitete, und der über jeden
Aspekt dieses Krieges log. 1985 wurde er
stellvertretender Staatssekretär für
Zentralamerika. Er war der Verantwortliche
im Weißen Haus unter Reagan für die
Operation zum Sturz der Regierung
Nicaraguas.
Geleitet wurde die Operation von Oliver
North und Eliot Abrams. Walker war
beispielsweise verantwortlich für die
Waffenlieferungen, die als humanitäre
Aktion getarnt, über den Flughafen Ilopango
in El Salvador abgewickelt wurden, um die
Contra-Banden gegen Nicaragua zu
unterstützen. Später war Walker von 1988
bis 1992 US- Botschafter in El Salvador,
dort herrschten zu jener Zeit die
Todesschwadronen, von denen viele auf
US-Militärschulen trainiert wurden.«
Im Zusammenhang mit der falschen
Darstellung des sogenannten Massakers von
Racak wurde Walker wegen Mißbrauchs seiner
Aufgaben als Diplomat und OSZE- Vertreter
von der Regierung der BR Jugoslawiens
ausgewiesen. Eine Gruppe finnischer
Gerichtsmediziner unter der Leitung von
Frau Helena Ranta war zu dem Schluß
gekommen, dass es keinerlei Anhaltspunkte
für ein Massaker gäbe. Bei einem einzigen
Opfer seien Pulverspuren zu finden gewesen,
die auf eine Exekution hindeuten könnten,
bei allen anderen sei dies auszuschließen.
Wenn es kein Massaker war, kann es nur ein
Gefecht gewesen sein. Ein für die UCK
verlustreiches Gefecht. Falls es unter den
Opfern auch Zivilisten gab, dann aus dem
Grund, dass dieses Dorf nicht die Unschuld
vom Lande war, sondern eine befestigte
Stellung.
Die kroatischen Serben warfen Walker
außerdem vor, als Leiter der
Übergangsverwaltung von Ostslawonien
1996/97 massiv die kroatische Politik der
ethnischen Säuberung unterstützt zu haben.
CIA-Mann Walker wurde im November 1999 in
Pristina von Kosovo-Albanern zum
Ehrenbürger gekürt - ein Ehrenbüger mit
Blut auf seinen Händen.
Ibrahim Rugova, glühender albanischer
Nationalist und überzeugter Separatist,
illegal ausgerufener Präsident des Kosovo,
wird ebenfalls als Zeuge auftreten. Weder
bei William Walker, noch bei Ibrahim Rugova
kann man wohl kaum mit einer objektiven,
schon gar nicht von einer neutralen Aussage
bei dem kommenden Prozess gegen Milosevic
rechnen, egal wie man jetzt zur Person
Milosevic stehen mag.
Aber ein fairer Prozess war auch nicht zu
erwarten. Wer die anderen 198 Zeugen sein
werden, das weiss niemand. Vielleicht wird
eine weitere Kurznotiz mehr Aufschluss
darüber geben.
Und überlesen werden.
Quellen: Kurier, junge welt, NZZ, New
Yorker Workers World Newspaper
**************************************
Jugoslawisch Österreichische
Solidaritätsbewegung JÖSB
PF 217
A-1040 Wien
Tel&Fax: (+43 1) 924 31 61
joesb@...
http://www.vorstadtzentrum.net/joesb
**************************************
500 DOLLARI DI RICOMPENSA
a chi fosse in grado di citare testualmente una frase razzista
pronunciata da Slobodan Milosevic. Le istruzioni per partecipare si
trovano al sito
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
$500 REWARD IF YOU CAN PRODUCE A RACIST QUOTE FROM MILOSEVIC
On December 11th, Slobodan Milosevic appeared and spoke before the
so-called War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague. The Western mass media has
repeatedly told us that Milosevic is a racist whose speeches whipped up
Serbs to attack Muslims. But few Westerners have actually read his
words. That's a shame, because his words flatly disprove the charge...
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
The Words of Milosevic:
List of Interviews, Articles, and Speeches by Slobodan Milosevic
> http://www.icdsm.org/milosevic/milowords.htm
a chi fosse in grado di citare testualmente una frase razzista
pronunciata da Slobodan Milosevic. Le istruzioni per partecipare si
trovano al sito
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
$500 REWARD IF YOU CAN PRODUCE A RACIST QUOTE FROM MILOSEVIC
On December 11th, Slobodan Milosevic appeared and spoke before the
so-called War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague. The Western mass media has
repeatedly told us that Milosevic is a racist whose speeches whipped up
Serbs to attack Muslims. But few Westerners have actually read his
words. That's a shame, because his words flatly disprove the charge...
> http://www.icdsm.org/more/peaceintro.htm
The Words of Milosevic:
List of Interviews, Articles, and Speeches by Slobodan Milosevic
> http://www.icdsm.org/milosevic/milowords.htm
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Official Statements Prove Hague 'Tribunal'
Belongs to NATO
by Jared Israel
[Originally posted 30 June 2001]
[Updated and expanded 7 January 2002]
=============================================
Of course you've heard of the ICTY, also
known as The Hague 'War Crimes
Tribunal.' That's the outfit that kidnaps
Serbian leaders (including
Slobodan Milosevic) and puts them on 'trial.'
Did you think the ICTY was a
fair-minded UN court, free to indict anyone
charged with crimes in
Yugoslavia, regardless of nationality?
Think again.
Exhibit A: Press Conference by NATO spokesman
Jamie Shea. Took place May 17,
1999, that is, during the NATO aggression
against Yugoslavia.
"QUESTION: Jamie, I wonder if you could
comment on a speech made by Justice
Arbour of the International Criminal Tribunal
last week, a copy of which I
left with your very fine secretary so that
you would have reference to it.
Judge Arbour in her speech said that as a
result of the NATO initiatives
being initiated on 24 March the countries of
NATO have "voluntarily
submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of
her court whose mandate applies
to the theatre of the chosen military
operation and whose reach is
unqualified by nationality and whose
investigations are triggered at the
sole discretion of the prosecutor who has
primacy over national courts."
Does NATO recognise Judge Arbour's
jurisdiction over their activities?
"JAMIE SHEA: First of all, my understanding
of the UN resolution that
established the Court is that it applies to
the former Yugoslavia, it is for
war crimes committed on the territory of the
former Yugoslavia.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] Secondly, I think we have
to distinguish between the
theoretical and the practical. I believe that
when Justice Arbour starts her
investigation, she will because we will allow
her to. It's not Milosevic
that has allowed Justice Arbour her visa to
go to Kosovo to carry out her
investigations. If her court, as we want, is
to be allowed access, it will
be because of NATO so NATO is the friend of
the Tribunal, NATO are the
people who have been detaining indicted war
criminals for the Tribunal in
Bosnia. We have done it, 14 arrests so far by
SFOR, and we will continue to do it.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] NATO countries are those
that have provided the finance to
set up the Tribunal, we are amongst the
majority financiers, and of course
to build a second chamber so that
prosecutions can be speeded up so let me
assure that we and the Tribunal are all one
on this, we want to see war
criminals brought to justice and I am certain
that when Justice Arbour goes
to Kosovo and looks at the facts she will be
indicting people of Yugoslav
nationality and I don't anticipate any others
at this stage."
[Our Emphasis. May 17, 1999 Transcript of
NATO press conference by Jamie
Shea & Major General W. Jertz in Brussels
Transcribed by M2 PRESSWIRE (c)
1999. To see the excerpt above in context of
the full transcript, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/jertzback.htm#h-list_quote
]
=============================================
Washington Created It; NATO Makes It Possible
=============================================
Did you think critics were indulging in
hyperbole when they said Madeline
Albright was "Mother of the Tribunal"?
EXHIBIT B: Excerpts from speech by Gabrielle
Kirk McDonald, President of the
Hague Tribunal, at her award ceremony at the
American Supreme Court on April
5, 1999.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]I am also pleased
to be here tonight as a guest
of the Coalition for International Justice,
which was founded in 1995 with
assistance from CEELI and the Open Society
Institute. The Coalition has been
a great source of support to the Tribunal.
CIJ jumped in early and has
stayed involved ever since. From running a
workshop to assist the defense
counsel in the very first trial, through
seminars for the judges...
(context)
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]Without the
co-operation of the states and
entities in the former Yugoslavia and the
international community as a
whole, the Tribunal had no way of bringing
even a single accused to trial.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Continues:]Nevertheless, we persevered and
did what we could to build the institution. We
benefited from the strong support
of concerned governments and dedicated
individuals such as Secretary
Albright. As the permanent representative to
the United Nations, she had
worked with unceasing resolve to establish
the Tribunal. Indeed, we often
refer to her as the "mother of the Tribunal".
And I am proud of what we have
accomplished. After those first years of
struggling to simply establish the
court, we have now really gotten on with the
substance of our mandate."
(context)
(From
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.05.html
to see the quotations in context of the full
Speech, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote1
and
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote2
)
Emperor's Clothes Note: The Open Society
Institute, which Ms. McDonald found
so helpful, is George Soros' outfit. Soros
acts as a kind of high-profit
wing of the CIA. On the one hand, he is a
ruthless currency-pirate (that is
polite), implicated in savaging the Thai
economy, which launched the great
Asian crash. On the other hand, his
foundation sets up and funds front
groups throughout the former Socialist
countries and elsewhere as beachheads
for U.S. penetration.
In his testimony at the July, 1999 hearing on
overthrowing democracy in
Yugoslavia, Special Yugoslav Envoy Gelbard
spoke of the Open Society
Foundation as a great help in carrying out
Imperial penetration. CELLI
appears to be part of a group of governmental
and semi-governmental
organizations which work together to develop
Fifth Column organizations in
countries targeted by the U.S. Empire. One of
the main coordinators of this
apparatus is a CIA spin-off, the National
Endowment for Democracy, about
which see:
'US Arrogance And Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm#z
and
'Eviscerating Democracy' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/szamuely/neda2.htm
=============================================
Washington Finances It
=============================================
Did you think this "United Nations" War
Crimes Tribunal was funded by the
United Nations?
Exhibit C: The Tribunal Thanks Washington for
Donating the Money to Do
Washington's Propaganda Work
"Press Release · Communiqué de presse
(Exclusively for the use of the media. Not an
official document)
The Hague, 19 April 1999
JL/PIU/397-E
"THE UNITED STATES PLEDGE USD 500,000 TO
"TRIBUNAL’S OUTREACH PROJECT
"PRESIDENT McDONALD GRATEFUL FOR GENEROUS
CONTRIBUTION
"On behalf of the International Criminal
Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia,
the President of the Tribunal, Judge
Gabrielle Kirk McDonald, has expressed
her deep appreciation to the U.S. Government
for its pledge of USD 500,000
for the Tribunal’s Outreach project.
Harold Koh, the US Assistant Secretary
of State for Democracy, Human Rights and
Labour, announced the donation at a
press briefing at the Tribunal on Friday 16
April 1999.
"This generous contribution, which makes up
over a third of the total
Outreach budget, will, as Assistant Secretary
of State Harold Koh noted
'allow the Tribunal to carry its message of
impartial justice not only to
governments and legal practitioners in the
former Yugoslavia, but, most of
all, to the families of victims.'
"The President urges other countries and
organisations to support this vital
project, which is aimed at bridging the
communications gap between the
Tribunal and the people of the former
Yugoslavia and helping in the
international community’s overall
reconciliation effort."
(From:
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.19.html
)
EMPEROR'S CLOTHES URGENTLY NEEDS YOUR HELP!
[See Below]
=============================================
Some Useful Articles on the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former
Yugoslavia
=============================================
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the
distinguished philosopher and social-legal
analyst associated with the
United Nations examines the Tribunal and does
not like what he finds. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* The big so-called case before NATO's
so-called Tribunal is that of former
Yugoslav President Milosevic. For a decade he
has been on trial in the
Western media, convicted daily of doing - and
saying - terrible things. It's
easy enough to discover that the media
reports of Milosevic's views and
statements are lies. Go to www.icdsm.org
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations.
Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished Yugoslav
legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje
Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa
Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals
with the torture and physical destruction of
Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski
describes the practices of the Tribunal,
which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees.
***
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Official Statements Prove Hague 'Tribunal'
Belongs to NATO
by Jared Israel
[Originally posted 30 June 2001]
[Updated and expanded 7 January 2002]
=============================================
Of course you've heard of the ICTY, also
known as The Hague 'War Crimes
Tribunal.' That's the outfit that kidnaps
Serbian leaders (including
Slobodan Milosevic) and puts them on 'trial.'
Did you think the ICTY was a
fair-minded UN court, free to indict anyone
charged with crimes in
Yugoslavia, regardless of nationality?
Think again.
Exhibit A: Press Conference by NATO spokesman
Jamie Shea. Took place May 17,
1999, that is, during the NATO aggression
against Yugoslavia.
"QUESTION: Jamie, I wonder if you could
comment on a speech made by Justice
Arbour of the International Criminal Tribunal
last week, a copy of which I
left with your very fine secretary so that
you would have reference to it.
Judge Arbour in her speech said that as a
result of the NATO initiatives
being initiated on 24 March the countries of
NATO have "voluntarily
submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of
her court whose mandate applies
to the theatre of the chosen military
operation and whose reach is
unqualified by nationality and whose
investigations are triggered at the
sole discretion of the prosecutor who has
primacy over national courts."
Does NATO recognise Judge Arbour's
jurisdiction over their activities?
"JAMIE SHEA: First of all, my understanding
of the UN resolution that
established the Court is that it applies to
the former Yugoslavia, it is for
war crimes committed on the territory of the
former Yugoslavia.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] Secondly, I think we have
to distinguish between the
theoretical and the practical. I believe that
when Justice Arbour starts her
investigation, she will because we will allow
her to. It's not Milosevic
that has allowed Justice Arbour her visa to
go to Kosovo to carry out her
investigations. If her court, as we want, is
to be allowed access, it will
be because of NATO so NATO is the friend of
the Tribunal, NATO are the
people who have been detaining indicted war
criminals for the Tribunal in
Bosnia. We have done it, 14 arrests so far by
SFOR, and we will continue to do it.
"[SHEA CONTINUES] NATO countries are those
that have provided the finance to
set up the Tribunal, we are amongst the
majority financiers, and of course
to build a second chamber so that
prosecutions can be speeded up so let me
assure that we and the Tribunal are all one
on this, we want to see war
criminals brought to justice and I am certain
that when Justice Arbour goes
to Kosovo and looks at the facts she will be
indicting people of Yugoslav
nationality and I don't anticipate any others
at this stage."
[Our Emphasis. May 17, 1999 Transcript of
NATO press conference by Jamie
Shea & Major General W. Jertz in Brussels
Transcribed by M2 PRESSWIRE (c)
1999. To see the excerpt above in context of
the full transcript, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/jertzback.htm#h-list_quote
]
=============================================
Washington Created It; NATO Makes It Possible
=============================================
Did you think critics were indulging in
hyperbole when they said Madeline
Albright was "Mother of the Tribunal"?
EXHIBIT B: Excerpts from speech by Gabrielle
Kirk McDonald, President of the
Hague Tribunal, at her award ceremony at the
American Supreme Court on April
5, 1999.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]I am also pleased
to be here tonight as a guest
of the Coalition for International Justice,
which was founded in 1995 with
assistance from CEELI and the Open Society
Institute. The Coalition has been
a great source of support to the Tribunal.
CIJ jumped in early and has
stayed involved ever since. From running a
workshop to assist the defense
counsel in the very first trial, through
seminars for the judges...
(context)
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald:]Without the
co-operation of the states and
entities in the former Yugoslavia and the
international community as a
whole, the Tribunal had no way of bringing
even a single accused to trial.
"[Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Continues:]Nevertheless, we persevered and
did what we could to build the institution. We
benefited from the strong support
of concerned governments and dedicated
individuals such as Secretary
Albright. As the permanent representative to
the United Nations, she had
worked with unceasing resolve to establish
the Tribunal. Indeed, we often
refer to her as the "mother of the Tribunal".
And I am proud of what we have
accomplished. After those first years of
struggling to simply establish the
court, we have now really gotten on with the
substance of our mandate."
(context)
(From
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.05.html
to see the quotations in context of the full
Speech, go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote1
and
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/kirkback.htm#h-list_quote2
)
Emperor's Clothes Note: The Open Society
Institute, which Ms. McDonald found
so helpful, is George Soros' outfit. Soros
acts as a kind of high-profit
wing of the CIA. On the one hand, he is a
ruthless currency-pirate (that is
polite), implicated in savaging the Thai
economy, which launched the great
Asian crash. On the other hand, his
foundation sets up and funds front
groups throughout the former Socialist
countries and elsewhere as beachheads
for U.S. penetration.
In his testimony at the July, 1999 hearing on
overthrowing democracy in
Yugoslavia, Special Yugoslav Envoy Gelbard
spoke of the Open Society
Foundation as a great help in carrying out
Imperial penetration. CELLI
appears to be part of a group of governmental
and semi-governmental
organizations which work together to develop
Fifth Column organizations in
countries targeted by the U.S. Empire. One of
the main coordinators of this
apparatus is a CIA spin-off, the National
Endowment for Democracy, about
which see:
'US Arrogance And Yugoslav Elections' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm#z
and
'Eviscerating Democracy' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/szamuely/neda2.htm
=============================================
Washington Finances It
=============================================
Did you think this "United Nations" War
Crimes Tribunal was funded by the
United Nations?
Exhibit C: The Tribunal Thanks Washington for
Donating the Money to Do
Washington's Propaganda Work
"Press Release · Communiqué de presse
(Exclusively for the use of the media. Not an
official document)
The Hague, 19 April 1999
JL/PIU/397-E
"THE UNITED STATES PLEDGE USD 500,000 TO
"TRIBUNAL’S OUTREACH PROJECT
"PRESIDENT McDONALD GRATEFUL FOR GENEROUS
CONTRIBUTION
"On behalf of the International Criminal
Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia,
the President of the Tribunal, Judge
Gabrielle Kirk McDonald, has expressed
her deep appreciation to the U.S. Government
for its pledge of USD 500,000
for the Tribunal’s Outreach project.
Harold Koh, the US Assistant Secretary
of State for Democracy, Human Rights and
Labour, announced the donation at a
press briefing at the Tribunal on Friday 16
April 1999.
"This generous contribution, which makes up
over a third of the total
Outreach budget, will, as Assistant Secretary
of State Harold Koh noted
'allow the Tribunal to carry its message of
impartial justice not only to
governments and legal practitioners in the
former Yugoslavia, but, most of
all, to the families of victims.'
"The President urges other countries and
organisations to support this vital
project, which is aimed at bridging the
communications gap between the
Tribunal and the people of the former
Yugoslavia and helping in the
international community’s overall
reconciliation effort."
(From:
http://www.pict-pcti.org/news/archive/April/ICTY.04.19.html
)
EMPEROR'S CLOTHES URGENTLY NEEDS YOUR HELP!
[See Below]
=============================================
Some Useful Articles on the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former
Yugoslavia
=============================================
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the
distinguished philosopher and social-legal
analyst associated with the
United Nations examines the Tribunal and does
not like what he finds. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* The big so-called case before NATO's
so-called Tribunal is that of former
Yugoslav President Milosevic. For a decade he
has been on trial in the
Western media, convicted daily of doing - and
saying - terrible things. It's
easy enough to discover that the media
reports of Milosevic's views and
statements are lies. Go to www.icdsm.org
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations.
Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished Yugoslav
legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje
Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa
Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals
with the torture and physical destruction of
Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski
describes the practices of the Tribunal,
which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees.
***
=======================================
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[This appeal was posted January 2002]
=======================================
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We do not charge for articles, and we do not
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1. LE PROTESTE DEI BANCARI LICENZIATI: DUE MORTI
2. INTERVISTA A SMILJA AVRAMOV: "L'OCCIDENTE VUOLE IMPEDIRE
CHE SI RIGENERI UNA BORGHESIA NAZIONALE IN SERBIA"
===*===
Serbia: proteste dei bancari licenziati
Belgrado, 9 gennaio 2002. Da cinque giorni sono in mobilitazione
gli impiegati delle quattro maggiori banche jugoslave, che il governo
ultraliberale di Djindjic ha chiuso su imposizione del FMI e della
BM. I manifestanti hanno bloccato il traffico stradale in vari punti
del centro cittadino. Notizie di proteste giungono anche da Novi Sad,
Cacak, Lazarevac ed altre citta' serbe.
Il governo ha elargito agli 8500 dipendenti licenziati, una-tantum,
la somma di 600mila euro come "buonuscita" - vale a dire circa 80 euro
a persona. Il sindacato della Beobanka ha comunicato oggi che due
dei lavoratori licenziati sono morti nei giorni scorsi per lo stress.
La polizia sorveglia ora varie filiali di Belgrado per impedire ai
dipendenti di accedervi.
+++ Serbien: Proteste der entlassenen Bankangestellten +++
BELGRAD, 9. Januar 2002. Seit fünf Tagen protestieren
Beschäftigte von vier größten jugoslawischen Banken, die die
ultraliberale Djindjic-Regierung auf Forderungen des
Internationalen Währungsfonds und der Weltbank zerschlagen hat.
In Belgrad blockierten Protestierende Straßenverkehr in mehreren
Straßen der Innenstadt. Auch aus Novi Sad, Cacak, Lazarevac und
anderen serbischen Städten wurden Proteste gemeldet.
Die Regierung zahlte einmalig insgesamt 600.000 Euro an 8.500
entlassene Bankbeschäftigte als "Abfindung", also
durchschnittlich ca. 80 Euro pro Person.
Die Gewerkschaft der Beobanka hat heute mitgeteilt, daß zwei
entlassene Beschäftigte in den letzten Tagen an Folgen vom Stress
starben.
Die Polizei bewacht nun mehrere Bankfilialen in Belgrad und
hindert die Bechäftigten daran, ihre Räume zu betreten.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
===*===
Intervista a Smilja Avramov
Quella che segue e' la trascrizione di una intervista telefonica
a Smilja Avramov, professoressa di diritto internazionale alla
Universita' di Belgrado, effettuata a cura della redazione di
"Voce Jugoslava" su Radio Citta' Aperta (http://www.radiocittaperta.it).
Smilja Avramov e' stata membro di commissioni in negoziati
internazionali ed e' autrice di molti saggi, tra i quali gli ultimi
due "Post-herojski rat Zapada protiv Jugoslavije" (La guerra post-eroica
dell'Occidente contro la Jugoslavia) e "Opus Dei".
L'abbiamo contattata il 7/1/2002 prendendo spunto dell'articolo
apparso lo stesso giorno sul quotidiano di Roma "Il Messaggero",
intitolato: "Jugoslavia, crack della Beograd Bank: Milosevic
incriminato per fallimento" (sic).
D : Professoressa, a che pro questa incriminazione di Milosevic?
Cosa c'e' dietro questo recente fallimento della Beobanka?
R : Come sappiamo tutti benissimo, a noi furono imposte le sanzioni...
Abbiamo ottenuto crediti da un fondo capitali che non era controllato.
Questo fondo capitali ci e' stato imposto. La Jugoslavia e' stata
costretta ad indebitarsi fortemente da vari centri finanziari che
cosi' riciclavano i loro capitali, e non tanto perche' avesse bisogno
di questi crediti. Ecco da dove viene il doppio gioco. Questo e' cio'
che ha ereditato Milosevic non appena e' arrivato al potere. Questa e'
una parte del problema. L'altra parte e' ben nota: al tempo delle
sanzioni si poteva commerciare [con l'estero] solamente alla borsa
nera. Anche le medicine si acquistavano alla borsa nera, anche la
nafta e gli altri prodotti si acquistavano cosi'. Pertanto, una
economia grigia, illegale, si e' generata sotto la pressione delle
sanzioni, e dunque credo che in una situazione del genere... Io non
difendo Milosevic, che ha sicuramente fatto i suoi errori per i quali
dovrebbe rispondere, ma non dinanzi al Tribunale dell'Aia bensi'
dinanzi al suo popolo, qui. Non si puo' attribuire tutta la
responsabilita' ad sola una persona in una situazione cosi'
complicata, come quella in cui si e' trovata la Jugoslavia. Sapete,
questa maniera di semplificare attribuendo la responsabilita' ad
una sola persona e' in effetti un modo per nascondere i retroscena
di un complesso, e direi sporco, gioco diplomatico. In che misura
sia responsabile Milosevic per il fallimento della Beobanka,
in che misura sia questo il risultato delle sanzioni che l'Occidente
ci ha imposto arbitrariamente, in che misura sia questo il risultato
di una economia grigia, questo e' qualcosa che dovrebbero stabilire
gli esperti di finanza, ma io penso che sia infantile, che sia
veramente un gioco evidente e sciocco addossare la colpa ad una
persona soltanto.
D : Dietro a questo fallimento non si nasconde forse una svendita
al capitale straniero?
R : In effetti non si tratta solamente della Beobanka, si tratta
della liquidazione di quattro grande banche nazionali e allo stesso
tempo si lascia che entri il capitale straniero e che in Jugoslavia
aprano filiali di banche straniere. Ma c'e' ancora un'altra cosa che
bisogna tenere in considerazione. E' stata emanata una legge sulla
privatizzazione, ma non e' stata emanata alcuna legge per la
de-nazionalizzazione, cosi' che si tratta di una doppia rapina ed
ancora di un gioco dietro le quinte. Cioe', con la privatizzazione
essi privatizzano qualcosa che non appartiene loro! Perche' questo
capitale non si restituisce ai vecchi proprietari, che sono ancora
vivi ed esistono? [Si riferisce, in generale e non relativamente al
caso specifico delle banche, alla borghesia di prima della seconda
guerra mondiale, ndT] Pero' non e' una decisione presa solo qui, e'
una decisione dei centri di potere in Occidente, che ritengono che
non si debba de-nazionalizzare, affinche' non si crei un capitalismo
nazionale, una elite nazionale, bensi' affinche' tutto questo venga
inserito nella globalizzazione del mercato, del capitale e
naturalmente delle compagnie multinazionali straniere. E questo negli
USA e nel G7.
D : Lei ha partecipato a una tavola rotonda alla TV di Zagabria
nel 1990: si parlava della possibilita' di creare una confederazione
jugoslava. Mi puo' ripetere a quali condizioni si puo' formare una
confederazione... e se adesso, a suo avviso, le ex-repubbliche
jugoslave si potrebbero confederare ?
R : Si', e' vero. In quel periodo, quando si discuteva della
trasformazione della federazione in confederazione, in realta' cio'
era contrario alle tendenze generali in atto in Europa. Noi avremmo
potuto facilmente entrare a far parte dell'Unione Europea. E' stato
un grande errore non realizzarlo, un errore di cui sono responsabili
indistintamente anche tutti i nostri leader politici del tempo da
Ljubljana a Skopje. La trasformazione della federazione in una
confederazione - in cui si sarebbero tracciate frontiere, barriere
innalzate a bella posta, commerciali, per il passaggio delle merci,
delle persone, del capitale - era inconciliabile con le tendenze
europee [che volevano lo smembramento del paese, ndT]. Oggi credo
che tutte le repubbliche dell'ex-Jugoslavia, che oggi sono diventate
"indipendenti", sono incapaci di condurre una vita autonoma. Ora
tutti comprendono che cio' e' stato un grande errore, ma e' troppo
tardi. Si e' arrivati a un punto di rottura, di inimicizia, di
lacerazioni dolorose, per cui in questo momento non sarebbe
possibile, anche psicologicamente, che il popolo accetti l'idea
di una confederazione. Sa, quando oggi si fa il nome di... perche'
molta gente e' morta, le famiglie sono molto addolorate, e quando
si fa il nome di una comunita' alla gente gli si drizzano i capelli
in testa. E' per questo che ritengo che le condizioni politiche non
siano mature, per poter pensare a un progetto simile. Per cio' e'
necessario che si rimargino le ferite aperte e ci vorranno due o
tre generazioni perche' cio' avvenga . Quel che dobbiamo certamente
fare e' volgerci verso l'Europa, creare dei canali di comunicazione
con l'Europa. Solo in questa prospettiva piu' ampia si potra'
parlare di una possibile cooperazione anche in questo momento, perche'
tra le sole repubbliche ex-jugoslave cio' e' impossibile.
2. INTERVISTA A SMILJA AVRAMOV: "L'OCCIDENTE VUOLE IMPEDIRE
CHE SI RIGENERI UNA BORGHESIA NAZIONALE IN SERBIA"
===*===
Serbia: proteste dei bancari licenziati
Belgrado, 9 gennaio 2002. Da cinque giorni sono in mobilitazione
gli impiegati delle quattro maggiori banche jugoslave, che il governo
ultraliberale di Djindjic ha chiuso su imposizione del FMI e della
BM. I manifestanti hanno bloccato il traffico stradale in vari punti
del centro cittadino. Notizie di proteste giungono anche da Novi Sad,
Cacak, Lazarevac ed altre citta' serbe.
Il governo ha elargito agli 8500 dipendenti licenziati, una-tantum,
la somma di 600mila euro come "buonuscita" - vale a dire circa 80 euro
a persona. Il sindacato della Beobanka ha comunicato oggi che due
dei lavoratori licenziati sono morti nei giorni scorsi per lo stress.
La polizia sorveglia ora varie filiali di Belgrado per impedire ai
dipendenti di accedervi.
+++ Serbien: Proteste der entlassenen Bankangestellten +++
BELGRAD, 9. Januar 2002. Seit fünf Tagen protestieren
Beschäftigte von vier größten jugoslawischen Banken, die die
ultraliberale Djindjic-Regierung auf Forderungen des
Internationalen Währungsfonds und der Weltbank zerschlagen hat.
In Belgrad blockierten Protestierende Straßenverkehr in mehreren
Straßen der Innenstadt. Auch aus Novi Sad, Cacak, Lazarevac und
anderen serbischen Städten wurden Proteste gemeldet.
Die Regierung zahlte einmalig insgesamt 600.000 Euro an 8.500
entlassene Bankbeschäftigte als "Abfindung", also
durchschnittlich ca. 80 Euro pro Person.
Die Gewerkschaft der Beobanka hat heute mitgeteilt, daß zwei
entlassene Beschäftigte in den letzten Tagen an Folgen vom Stress
starben.
Die Polizei bewacht nun mehrere Bankfilialen in Belgrad und
hindert die Bechäftigten daran, ihre Räume zu betreten.
STIMME KOSOVOS / AMSELFELD.COM
===*===
Intervista a Smilja Avramov
Quella che segue e' la trascrizione di una intervista telefonica
a Smilja Avramov, professoressa di diritto internazionale alla
Universita' di Belgrado, effettuata a cura della redazione di
"Voce Jugoslava" su Radio Citta' Aperta (http://www.radiocittaperta.it).
Smilja Avramov e' stata membro di commissioni in negoziati
internazionali ed e' autrice di molti saggi, tra i quali gli ultimi
due "Post-herojski rat Zapada protiv Jugoslavije" (La guerra post-eroica
dell'Occidente contro la Jugoslavia) e "Opus Dei".
L'abbiamo contattata il 7/1/2002 prendendo spunto dell'articolo
apparso lo stesso giorno sul quotidiano di Roma "Il Messaggero",
intitolato: "Jugoslavia, crack della Beograd Bank: Milosevic
incriminato per fallimento" (sic).
D : Professoressa, a che pro questa incriminazione di Milosevic?
Cosa c'e' dietro questo recente fallimento della Beobanka?
R : Come sappiamo tutti benissimo, a noi furono imposte le sanzioni...
Abbiamo ottenuto crediti da un fondo capitali che non era controllato.
Questo fondo capitali ci e' stato imposto. La Jugoslavia e' stata
costretta ad indebitarsi fortemente da vari centri finanziari che
cosi' riciclavano i loro capitali, e non tanto perche' avesse bisogno
di questi crediti. Ecco da dove viene il doppio gioco. Questo e' cio'
che ha ereditato Milosevic non appena e' arrivato al potere. Questa e'
una parte del problema. L'altra parte e' ben nota: al tempo delle
sanzioni si poteva commerciare [con l'estero] solamente alla borsa
nera. Anche le medicine si acquistavano alla borsa nera, anche la
nafta e gli altri prodotti si acquistavano cosi'. Pertanto, una
economia grigia, illegale, si e' generata sotto la pressione delle
sanzioni, e dunque credo che in una situazione del genere... Io non
difendo Milosevic, che ha sicuramente fatto i suoi errori per i quali
dovrebbe rispondere, ma non dinanzi al Tribunale dell'Aia bensi'
dinanzi al suo popolo, qui. Non si puo' attribuire tutta la
responsabilita' ad sola una persona in una situazione cosi'
complicata, come quella in cui si e' trovata la Jugoslavia. Sapete,
questa maniera di semplificare attribuendo la responsabilita' ad
una sola persona e' in effetti un modo per nascondere i retroscena
di un complesso, e direi sporco, gioco diplomatico. In che misura
sia responsabile Milosevic per il fallimento della Beobanka,
in che misura sia questo il risultato delle sanzioni che l'Occidente
ci ha imposto arbitrariamente, in che misura sia questo il risultato
di una economia grigia, questo e' qualcosa che dovrebbero stabilire
gli esperti di finanza, ma io penso che sia infantile, che sia
veramente un gioco evidente e sciocco addossare la colpa ad una
persona soltanto.
D : Dietro a questo fallimento non si nasconde forse una svendita
al capitale straniero?
R : In effetti non si tratta solamente della Beobanka, si tratta
della liquidazione di quattro grande banche nazionali e allo stesso
tempo si lascia che entri il capitale straniero e che in Jugoslavia
aprano filiali di banche straniere. Ma c'e' ancora un'altra cosa che
bisogna tenere in considerazione. E' stata emanata una legge sulla
privatizzazione, ma non e' stata emanata alcuna legge per la
de-nazionalizzazione, cosi' che si tratta di una doppia rapina ed
ancora di un gioco dietro le quinte. Cioe', con la privatizzazione
essi privatizzano qualcosa che non appartiene loro! Perche' questo
capitale non si restituisce ai vecchi proprietari, che sono ancora
vivi ed esistono? [Si riferisce, in generale e non relativamente al
caso specifico delle banche, alla borghesia di prima della seconda
guerra mondiale, ndT] Pero' non e' una decisione presa solo qui, e'
una decisione dei centri di potere in Occidente, che ritengono che
non si debba de-nazionalizzare, affinche' non si crei un capitalismo
nazionale, una elite nazionale, bensi' affinche' tutto questo venga
inserito nella globalizzazione del mercato, del capitale e
naturalmente delle compagnie multinazionali straniere. E questo negli
USA e nel G7.
D : Lei ha partecipato a una tavola rotonda alla TV di Zagabria
nel 1990: si parlava della possibilita' di creare una confederazione
jugoslava. Mi puo' ripetere a quali condizioni si puo' formare una
confederazione... e se adesso, a suo avviso, le ex-repubbliche
jugoslave si potrebbero confederare ?
R : Si', e' vero. In quel periodo, quando si discuteva della
trasformazione della federazione in confederazione, in realta' cio'
era contrario alle tendenze generali in atto in Europa. Noi avremmo
potuto facilmente entrare a far parte dell'Unione Europea. E' stato
un grande errore non realizzarlo, un errore di cui sono responsabili
indistintamente anche tutti i nostri leader politici del tempo da
Ljubljana a Skopje. La trasformazione della federazione in una
confederazione - in cui si sarebbero tracciate frontiere, barriere
innalzate a bella posta, commerciali, per il passaggio delle merci,
delle persone, del capitale - era inconciliabile con le tendenze
europee [che volevano lo smembramento del paese, ndT]. Oggi credo
che tutte le repubbliche dell'ex-Jugoslavia, che oggi sono diventate
"indipendenti", sono incapaci di condurre una vita autonoma. Ora
tutti comprendono che cio' e' stato un grande errore, ma e' troppo
tardi. Si e' arrivati a un punto di rottura, di inimicizia, di
lacerazioni dolorose, per cui in questo momento non sarebbe
possibile, anche psicologicamente, che il popolo accetti l'idea
di una confederazione. Sa, quando oggi si fa il nome di... perche'
molta gente e' morta, le famiglie sono molto addolorate, e quando
si fa il nome di una comunita' alla gente gli si drizzano i capelli
in testa. E' per questo che ritengo che le condizioni politiche non
siano mature, per poter pensare a un progetto simile. Per cio' e'
necessario che si rimargino le ferite aperte e ci vorranno due o
tre generazioni perche' cio' avvenga . Quel che dobbiamo certamente
fare e' volgerci verso l'Europa, creare dei canali di comunicazione
con l'Europa. Solo in questa prospettiva piu' ampia si potra'
parlare di una possibile cooperazione anche in questo momento, perche'
tra le sole repubbliche ex-jugoslave cio' e' impossibile.
