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Della miseria della opposizione di destra in Serbia
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Ambassador Gelbard, I wonder if Balkan ghosts are still alive even in
Serbia
that these opposition forces can actually unite to extricate Mr.
Milosevic,
what are the odds? I mean, you see it happening? There's a number of
parties
here:
Mr. Draskovic, Mr. Djindjic. I mean, can they put aside personal
ambition for
national good in this effort?
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, Mr. Chairman, one thing I've learned after a
number
of years working in the Balkans is that I don't give odds.
SEN. SMITH: (Laughs.)
MR. GELBARD: I like to be pleasantly surprised, if that should happen.
The biggest obstacle right now, as I said, has been the fractiousness of
some
elements of the opposition and the possibility that they may not have
learned
from the mistakes they committed in the past, where they allowed their
egos,
personal differences, and perhaps even some ideological differences to
get in
the way from achieving the ultimate goal that they all say they desire.
As
you know, Mr. Chairman, and as Senator Biden knows very well, the
Zajedno
group blew their opportunity during the winter of '96-'97, when they had
victory in their hands. And a principal reason for that was, indeed, the
personality differences between Draskovic and Djindjic. Over the last
year
and a half some elements of the opposition appear to have learned from
this.
Several coalition groups have developed in a very positive way,
including the
Alliance For Change, the Alliance For Democratic Political Parties, and
others. And their message appears to be a constructive one, a
forward-looking
one about the future that could be that of Serbia and the FRY.
Our message to the opposition has been that this time they need to learn
from
the mistakes of the past because they have such an extraordinary
opportunity
now, and they need to find a way, if they can't construct a single
opposition
front, then at least to develop a loose coalition that follows the same
line
to avoid undercutting each other. There have been a number of
non-aggression
pacts signed among opposition groups and parties, so far. That's a
positive
sign, and we think it's critical that they continue to move forward on
this
kind of code of conduct, as well as similar platforms in their
demonstrations
as they move forward.
SEN. G. SMITH: As you look into the future, you think of Montenegro and
what
they're doing, is Montenegro something of a model for how Kosovo could
develop?
And is Montenegro likely to go independent as well?
MR. GELBARD: Well first, we have, as I said in my written testimony,
continued to point to the government, the ruling party, the ruling
coalition
in Montenegro as the right kind of example for Serbia in the sense that
they
have developed a multi-ethnic democratic coalition, which, incidentally,
includes Serbs, Montenegrans, Albanians, Bosniacs, lots of others. In
that
sense, we would hope that the Serbian political parties and NGOs, labor
unions and the like, could learn from this.
And it's very interesting for me that Serb opposition leaders really
look up
to President Djukanovic, not just because he's 6'-5", but because he is
somebody who clearly has demonstrated a willingness and an ability to
construct a democratic coalition that functions and that pursues
free-market
economic policies. So we certainly hope that whether it's the people of
Serbia and their leadership, their political parties, or in Kosovo, that
this
can be a kind of example.
At the same time, our preference, of course strong preference, as I have
repeatedly told President Djukanovic, is for Montenegro to remain an
integral
part of the The --
SEN. G. SMITH: Is that likely, or what do you suspect is happening?
MR. GELBARD: Well, President Djukanovic is looking for a fairer deal
under
the constitution that exists.
The constitution itself isn't bad. It has been the way Milosevic has
twisted
it over the last seven or eight years. And Djukanovic is now looking for
more
autonomy under this constitution, as a way of keeping Montenegro inside
of
Yugoslavia, and we don't disagree with that.
We want to continue to see Montenegro as part of Yugoslavia. And we feel
that
a country made up of equal republics is a reasonable and decent way to
go.
SEN. G. SMITH: Ambassador Pardew, without a democratic change in
Belgrade --
I mean, is it realistic for Kosovo to be a truly autonomous province of
Serbia?
MR. PARDEW: On the long run, we have to have a democratic change in
Belgrade.
We are going to do everything that we possibly can to create the
institutions
of democracy in Kosovo with or without regard to what happens in
Belgrade.
But you're right; there are limits to how far you can go with the
current
regime in Belgrade. So I agree with you.
SEN. G. SMITH: Senator Biden?
SEN. BIDEN: Gentlemen, they are both good statements I believe -- and so
much
to ask. Let me start by picking up where the chairman left off.
Montenegro has basically issued an ultimatum to Serbia. And it says
that: "We
want greater autonomy. We want to be able to conduct relations with
other
countries without Belgrade's interference." And it set a deadline for
that to
occur. They are going to hold a referendum. That's been pushed back
until, as
I understand it, until September, the ultimatum.
I don't know where that goes. I mean, Milosevic, it seems to me, if he
accedes to that, demonstrates he has even less power than he's trying to
portray he has hold of, and if he doesn't, there's nothing he can do to
stop
what Montenegro's going to do. And I don't know how they stop that from
rolling down the -- that ball from rolling. Would you comment on that,
Ambassador Gelbard?
MR. GELBARD: First, under the constitution of the FRY, the federal
constitution, and under Montenegro's constitution, they do have certain
rights which go further than we would normally expect part of a
sovereign
state to have. For example, they do have legitimately their own foreign
minister and ability to conduct some foreign policy functions
constitutionally. They also have the right to have a referendum on
independence under their constitution.
My sense is that right now the vote would not go in favor of
independence.
But what's very clear, Senator, is that Milosevic has been the one who
has
pushed the Montenegrin people in this direction over the course of the
last
two years. As I mentioned in my testimony, Milosevic and his puppet, the
former president of Montenegro, Momir Bulatovic, tried to overthrow
Djukanovic before he was inaugurated as president on June 15th, 1998.
They
also increased the size of the army, the VJ, in Montenegro during the
conflict in Kosovo from 9,500, which is its usual size, up to 40,000 by
adding on reservists and some other regular army personnel. And it was a
very
delicate dance that took place there between the VJ and the police,
which
come under the Montenegrin government.
I think Milosevic knew that if the army tried to overthrow Djukanovic,
there
was likely to be civil war, the army was likely to fracture; and the
police
are quite strong. Nonetheless, the Montenegrin government is showing
prudence
in how it's trying to proceed. Djukanovic, by his own public statements,
has
said that he doesn't want independence; what he wants is equal
opportunity
inside of the FRY.
SEN. BIDEN: But he's threatened a referendum, hasn't he?
MR. GELBARD: He's threatened a referendum, which, as I said, is
legitimate
under their constitution.
SEN. BIDEN: Yeah.
MR. GELBARD: So I wouldn't want to give you a hypothetical answer about
where
this is going.
But Djukanovic is trying to keep his coalition to gether, he's trying to
cope
with the significantly increased percentage of the population who are
now
tremendously frustrated by Milosevic's boycotts and blockades against
the
Montenegrin people, and I think President Djukanovic deserves a great
deal of
credit for trying to walk a very delicate line right now, even as he's
trying
to stay inside Yugoslavia.
SEN. BIDEN: Great non-answer. (Laughter.) And I appreciate it very much.
It
seems to me, because I'm not a diplomat and most people don't care about
foreign policy and they forget what I have to say anyway --
MR. GELBARD: I never do, Senator.
SEN. BIDEN: It seems to me that Djukanovic has himself -- and I'm not
being
critical of him -- I mean, I think he's looking around and saying, "How
do I
cut my deal so that I get a major piece of this reconstruction that's
going
to go on in the Balkans here?" Not a whole lot that Serbia can do to
block
access now; boycotts are aren't going to matter a whole lot if, in fact,
they
attempt to.
And I just wonder how this is playing in Belgrade, whether or not they
fear a
referendum or Djukanovic fears a referendum more than Belgrade fears a
referendum, but you've -- you know, you've answered it as you probably
should.
We talk about -- Ambassador Pardew -- we talk about supporting the
media, a
free and open media. How? How do we do that? I thought you had said
that, or
maybe you said that --
MR. PARDEW: Yes. Yes.
SEN. BIDEN: Either one of you or both of you. Mechanically, how do we do
that?
MR. PARDEW: Well, we work through nongovernmental organizations. We have
established, as Ambassador Gelbard mentioned, a ring around Serbia,
which is
using international broadcasts, but we're offering that to independent
voices
in Serbia. We are using international facilities to make -- and making
them
available to independent groups.
SEN. BIDEN: Let me put it another way. We can make facilities available;
are
we prepared to shut down facilities that spew propaganda?
MR. GELBARD: Well, we have, senator.
SEN. BIDEN: We have. I mean --
MR. GELBARD: During the --
SEN. BIDEN: -- over the long haul? Is this the --
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, during the conflict in Kosovo we and our
allies --
SEN. BIDEN: No, I know that. I want to know from now.
MR. GELBARD: Well, the -- as far as I'm aware, Serb television has still
been
cut off the (EUTELSAT ?) facilities, and we've made sure that whenever
they
made an attempt -- and there was a brief moment when they got back on
another
satellite -- we shut them off those. What we're really trying to do, the
use
of the international facilities that Ambassador Pardew referred to,
particularly the RFE, RL, and the ring around Serbia, is a temporary
measure.
What we're trying to do over the long term is support an alternative
indigenous voice for the Serbian people through mechanisms such as ANEM,
the
Network of Independent Radio and Television. We have funds available
that we
were just about to deliver when the conflict broke out and Milosevic
switched
them off. But we have funds available that we are on the verge of
providing
to them again so that independent television and radio can be augmented
throughout Serbia. We're supporting Montenegran television and radio so
that
they can be another voice for the Serb opposition and the Serb people as
well
as, of course, for the Montenegran people. And we're looking at other
means
to really augment the capability or start up again the capability of
free
Serbian voices inside of Serbia.
MR. PARDEW: Can I add to that, senator?
SEN. BIDEN: Yes.
MR. PARDEW: We are -- the international community is promoting printing
of
newspapers that were previously printed in Kosovo now being printed in
Macedonia and distributed in Kosovo free of charge. You will hear from
John
Fox (sp) later, I think, from the Soros Foundation. They've been
instrumental
in putting funding in to independent radio in Kosovo. We encourage that.
The
former Serbian radio and TV in Pristina has been taken over by the
international community, and we've denied one access to one group to
dominate
that because we don't want a single voice, and we will ensure that there
are
multiple voices on this.
So there are a range of programs ongoing in Kosovo, as Bob mentioned.
SEN. BIDEN: What can we do about inside Serbia? For example, Draskovic
continues to deny access to Studio B, which is supposedly, as I
understand it
-- he's not?
MR. GELBARD: No, he's actually given access to Studio B -- excuse me;
given
access of Studio B to Radio B-92. And my understanding is that Radio
B-92,
one of the independent voices, has just reopened as Radio B-292. We want
Draskovic to open up Studio B to the rest of the opposition, and that's
a
message that he'll be getting from us in the next few days.
SEN. BIDEN: Last question, if I may, Mr. Chairman?
SEN. G. SMITH: Sure.
SEN. BIDEN: We all say, including me, that ultimately there is no
long-term
integration of the Balkans into an undivided Europe until Milosevic
goes. I
wonder whether we're saying that too much these days, including me. Let
me be
more precise.
As long as there is success in Sarajevo today -- I guess it's today or
tomorrow -- tomorrow, as long as the commitments are real, as long as
the
civilian police force is put in place, the media is not dominated, the
reconstruction of Kosovo and Macedonia and Montenegro and the
surrounding
areas really begins in earnest, with the European Community taking the
lead,
I don't know what Serbia can do, under Milosevic's leadership, that can
much
effect whether or not we succeed in that part. In other words,
admittedly, at
the end of the day, until the Serbian people have come to terms with
their
leadership and what was done, you can't have a solution here. But I
don't
know what Milosevic and an antagonistic Serbia can do, as a practical
matter,
to effect about 500 things we've got to do in the meantime anyway, to
begin
to put together, economically and politically, a larger plan for the
Balkans.
Am I missing something here?
MR. GELBARD: Senator, I believe that Milosevic has an infinite
capability for
creating damage. Even while he had so many problems at home, he tried to
overthrow the Dodik government, the moderate Bosnian Serb government in
Republika Srpska. We were able to stymie that, and the Dodik -- Dodik
and his
government emerged strong after the conflict --
SEN. BIDEN: Is that related to his ability if it -- when it was even a
possibility, to his ability to provide force to back up any effort that
would
be undertaken, ultimately? The ability to provide assistance?
MR. GELBARD: He still has the capability of providing force, not in
Bosnia,
but in Montenegro, and in his own perverse way --
SEN. BIDEN: How can he do that? Be specific --
MR. GELBARD: Through the army.
SEN. BIDEN: If in fact that occurs, I can't imagine that the
international
community and KFOR will not come down on that effort like a God- -- a
gosh-darn mountainside being blown up. I don't understand that. I mean,
do
you mean -- is there any doubt on the part of the alliance that if there
is
use of military force, of the VJ, in Montenegro, that we won't use all
force
available to us to take them out?
SEN. SMITH: Or are you telling us that we won't? I mean, I don't --
MR. GELBARD: I'm not certain that that is something which is in -- that
is
not necessarily in NATO's agreed NATO action at this point, or when the
current mandate terminates. If it isn't --
SEN. BIDEN: But --
MR. GELBARD: -- what I worry about is that Milosevic survives by
creating
trouble. He is in the worst trouble he's ever been. He's in a corner.
The
economy has collapsed totally. Real wages were at the same level as the
early
1950s before the conflict, and right now they have virtually no reserves
left. But this is why it is imperative to see a change in the regime, to
have
democratic government arrive in Belgrade as a way of having the region
whole.
That's why we --
SEN. BIDEN: I couldn't agree more, but let me --
MR. GELBARD: -- consider that to be an imperative in our foreign policy.
SEN. BIDEN: As you know, there has been no one that you have known in
Congress that has been more supportive of arriving at that conclusion,
but I
like to think I am a realist.
The idea that we are going to produce a democratic government in Serbia,
between now an d the end of the year, is about as likely as this podium
getting up and walking to the back of the room. And what I want to sort
of
disabuse everybody of here is a new State Department-arrived-at notion
that,
through State Department-speak, we are going to arrive at something
that's
not possible. The most likely thing to do is nail the son of a gun by
literally going in and getting him and dragging him to The Hague. If we
had a
brain in our collective heads, that's what we would do; literally, not
figuratively. But we are not going to do that because our European
friends
all lack the will, and we will lack the willingness to push that
forcefully.
And so I just hope that we make it clear that the idea that he may be
alive
and well in Serbia does not mean that we -- the isolation of Serbia and
him
in fact -- and him in particular does not allow us to pursue all our
other
objectives in the meantime. If they want to wither on the vine and die,
so be
it -- so be it -- which takes me to a question relating to aid.
We are saying -- we and the Europeans are saying that we will provide
humanitarian financial -- we are not planning financial assistance or
reconstruction aid but that we will provide humanitarian assistance. I
think
that is a very, very, very fine line to draw. And I think that we should
be
very aware that his ability to create mischief and gain credibility will
relate to how tightly we parse that.
How do we prevent Milosevic from claiming credit for Western assistance
to
Serbia, particularly when the media is still not a free media?
So I just -- I'm not even asking you to respond, because it's unfair. If
you'd like to, I'd welcome it. But I just think that this ain't over
till
it's over. It's not over till he's gone. But we cannot assume as long as
he's
[not?]gone we can hedge our assessment of what we're able to do outside
of
Serbia, in my humble opinion.
SEN. G. SMITH: I'd like to follow on to what Senator Biden is saying
here.
One of the reasons that I voted to support President Clinton and the
allies
in this action in Kosovo was my belief that if Milosevic could work this
kind
of mischief, we would be pinned down in Bosnia for a long, long, long
time,
and that by defanging his military, we could go home earlier. Is that a
naïve
belief on my part?
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, to answer Senator Biden's question --
SEN. G. SMITH: And by the way, I think he's going to commit mischief if
we're
saying that we're not willing to do anything.
MR. GELBARD: First to answer Senator Biden, though, Senator, I agree
with you.
That's why we are continuing to press ahead on all other initiatives and
we're working with the Europeans on the stability pact, which is a
regional
effort, a regional approach regarding democracy, security and economic
development. And that's what we feel it has to be, a regional focus on
every
place.
The line -- the fine line you ask about, I agree with you again. That's
why,
again, we're not trying to play games on the issue of assistance; we're
saying humanitarian assistance means food and medicine. We have looked
at
other types of possible assistance, but we feel, as I said in my
statement,
that it's imperative to maintain the isolation with the three layers of
sanctions -- the outer wall, Kosovo-related sanctions, and the wartime
sanctions.
And the -- President Clinton and the administration, entire
administration,
feel very strongly that we should be maintaining all these sanctions
until --
as a way of maintaining this type of isolation, because you're right, it
would be very easy to begin to blur the line. And I know, as you know,
Senator, there are countries out there that are interested in moving
over
different lines over time.
SEN. BIDEN: And I'm worried about us setting the bar so high that we
build in
failure here, because if a year from now there is not democracy in
Serbia,
after we keep talking this claptrap about, you know, democratic -- there
aren't any democratic forces in Serbia now. Draskovic ain't a Democrat.
This
guy is no box of chocolates. He's better than the other guy, but this is
no
box of chocolates. I think we should be honest about this.
And look, just to make it clear to you where I am, and just speaking as
one
senator, there's a big difference between clearing the bridge -- the
bridge
debris out of the Danube so our allies can use the Danube, and building
a new
bridge. I'll clear it. I will do everything in my power here to make
sure
there's not a cent that can be spent to build it.
And I just think that they've got to come to their -- the realization of
what
they have enabled Milosevic to do, and until there are democratic forces
there, I am -- like for example, the press asks me all the time, we
voted 100
-- what was it? -- $100 million in the Serbian -- I don't know who to
give it
to? Okay?
I mean, I know how -- I know what I'd like to give it to. But we
Americans
tend to think, whether it was Ronald Reagan in, you know, in Latin
America or
us in the Balkans, that there's some Jeffersonian democrat waiting to
spring
up somewhere to lead a -- you know, a democratic rival there. There
ain't no
Democrats in Serbia, that I've found. I mean -- democratic leadership,
that
has any realistic possibility of moving. So I guess what I'm trying to
say to
you is this. I just think it's a little bit like -- the secretary got
mad at
me when I a month ago said stop talking about Rambouillet, stop talking
about
how we want to bring them back to the table. We don't want to bring them
back, we want to beat the hell ou t of them until they stop. That's what
we
want. And that's the only thing that worked.
And I think this idea that we're really in effect saying we're not going
to
succeed until we have a democratic Serbia, then that is ultimate
success. But
I'm afraid you're going to have people up here saying, well, geez, it's
been
-- it's been four months, you know? -- don't have it yet, so I guess we
shouldn't be spending all this money doing this other stuff over here.
MR. GELBARD: Well, in fact, I said in my statement that in the short
term
it's hard to imagine that it will be able to achieve a democratic
solution in
Serbia. That's why we have to be prepared to support democratic forces
--
SEN. BIDEN: And there are democratic forces.
MR. GELBARD: Well --
SEN. BIDEN: Ain't much democratic leadership.
MR. GELBARD: Tomorrow a representative of the democratic opposition,
Draguslav Ovramovic (sp), will be in Sarajevo for the summit. This is a
man
who is a very high common denominator. He is part of the alliance for
change.
Vuk Draskovic is a really flawed individual. But --
SEN. BIDEN: He is the Rasputin of the 21st century, about to be. I mean,
we're not quite there yet.
MR. GELBARD: I'll tell him you said it. (Laughs.)
SEN. BIDEN: I told him that.
MR. GELBARD: Yeah.
SEN. BIDEN: So I -- I'd tell him. I --
MR. GELBARD: We still hope that he can be part of the solution here --
SEN.
BIDEN: I hope so, too, but he's going to take work.
MR. GELBARD: Mr. Chairman -- he's going to take a lot of work.
SEN. BIDEN: That's a very high maintenance fellow.
MR. GELBARD: I know. Believe me, I know. (Laughs.)
Mr. Chairman, regarding your question, the -- (stops) -- the Republika
Srpska
has emerged, coming out of the conflict, if anything with significantly
strengthened moderate leadership. The Dodik government is stronger than
they
were at the beginning of the year. They are stronger than they were
after the
elections in September.
When I last met with Prime Minister Dodik, about a month ago, he was
much
more comfortable, much more confident about his ability to govern. We
are
seeing that the extremes, who were weakened after the September national
elections, are becoming weaker still. High Representative Carlos
Westendorp,
whose last day is tomorrow, banished President Poplasen, the leader of
the
Radical Party, from his position, and it's now very clear that his
Radical
Party is weaker than ever, as is Karadzic's SDS. We see prospects for
the
moderates better than ever. And while there's still a ways to go, the
prospects look much better.
SEN. G. SMITH: Thank you.
MR. PARDEW: Could I just comment on the democracy issue? We don't have
any
illusions about who we're dealing with here, but I do think democracy is
an
aspiration of many of the Serb people. And in that regard, I don't think
we
ought to stop talking about it, Senator. I think we ought to -- we ought
to
continue to discuss it as an issue of --
SEN. BIDEN: I'm not suggesting we don't talk about it; I'm suggesting we
talk
about it realistically. I mean, for example, it's amazing what can
happen
when you eliminate the extremes. I mean, the single best thing that ever
happened to the Republic of Srpska is we kicked the living hell out of
Milosevic. There ain't no alternative left. That's the reason why it
happened. It had nothing to do with elections, it had to do with the
fact
that Westendorp had the right idea, number one; and number two, there
ain't
no alternative. Belgrade's no beacon, no help, no place to go. So there
is no
alternative. It's amazing what a salutary impact that has upon extremes
in
countries.
And that's why the single best thing we -- my dream is to visit
Milosevic in
prison. (Laughter.) I mean that sincerely. I'm not being facetious.
Because
you put Milosevic in prison, and things in the region will change
drastically.
If you said to me, "You can leave him where he is or give him a plane
ticket
to take off to some -- like the former leader of Uganda, well, you know,
we
gave him -- what was his name? -- Idi Amin -- we can give him an "Idi
Amin
passport"
and he would leave; I'd say no, leave him there, leave him there till we
get
him. Put him in jail. Short of that, I don't know how we get to the
point.
And by the way, I often wondered, Karadzic's party, the SDS, the only
misnomer, it should have dropped the "D." I mean, these guys are BAD
guys.
BAD guys. They're no good. SEN. G. SMITH: When Senator Biden makes that
visit
to that prison, I want to be your junior companion.
Gentlemen, thank you very much for your testimony. We appreciate it.
SEN. BIDEN: Thanks.
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Ambassador Gelbard, I wonder if Balkan ghosts are still alive even in
Serbia
that these opposition forces can actually unite to extricate Mr.
Milosevic,
what are the odds? I mean, you see it happening? There's a number of
parties
here:
Mr. Draskovic, Mr. Djindjic. I mean, can they put aside personal
ambition for
national good in this effort?
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, Mr. Chairman, one thing I've learned after a
number
of years working in the Balkans is that I don't give odds.
SEN. SMITH: (Laughs.)
MR. GELBARD: I like to be pleasantly surprised, if that should happen.
The biggest obstacle right now, as I said, has been the fractiousness of
some
elements of the opposition and the possibility that they may not have
learned
from the mistakes they committed in the past, where they allowed their
egos,
personal differences, and perhaps even some ideological differences to
get in
the way from achieving the ultimate goal that they all say they desire.
As
you know, Mr. Chairman, and as Senator Biden knows very well, the
Zajedno
group blew their opportunity during the winter of '96-'97, when they had
victory in their hands. And a principal reason for that was, indeed, the
personality differences between Draskovic and Djindjic. Over the last
year
and a half some elements of the opposition appear to have learned from
this.
Several coalition groups have developed in a very positive way,
including the
Alliance For Change, the Alliance For Democratic Political Parties, and
others. And their message appears to be a constructive one, a
forward-looking
one about the future that could be that of Serbia and the FRY.
Our message to the opposition has been that this time they need to learn
from
the mistakes of the past because they have such an extraordinary
opportunity
now, and they need to find a way, if they can't construct a single
opposition
front, then at least to develop a loose coalition that follows the same
line
to avoid undercutting each other. There have been a number of
non-aggression
pacts signed among opposition groups and parties, so far. That's a
positive
sign, and we think it's critical that they continue to move forward on
this
kind of code of conduct, as well as similar platforms in their
demonstrations
as they move forward.
SEN. G. SMITH: As you look into the future, you think of Montenegro and
what
they're doing, is Montenegro something of a model for how Kosovo could
develop?
And is Montenegro likely to go independent as well?
MR. GELBARD: Well first, we have, as I said in my written testimony,
continued to point to the government, the ruling party, the ruling
coalition
in Montenegro as the right kind of example for Serbia in the sense that
they
have developed a multi-ethnic democratic coalition, which, incidentally,
includes Serbs, Montenegrans, Albanians, Bosniacs, lots of others. In
that
sense, we would hope that the Serbian political parties and NGOs, labor
unions and the like, could learn from this.
And it's very interesting for me that Serb opposition leaders really
look up
to President Djukanovic, not just because he's 6'-5", but because he is
somebody who clearly has demonstrated a willingness and an ability to
construct a democratic coalition that functions and that pursues
free-market
economic policies. So we certainly hope that whether it's the people of
Serbia and their leadership, their political parties, or in Kosovo, that
this
can be a kind of example.
At the same time, our preference, of course strong preference, as I have
repeatedly told President Djukanovic, is for Montenegro to remain an
integral
part of the The --
SEN. G. SMITH: Is that likely, or what do you suspect is happening?
MR. GELBARD: Well, President Djukanovic is looking for a fairer deal
under
the constitution that exists.
The constitution itself isn't bad. It has been the way Milosevic has
twisted
it over the last seven or eight years. And Djukanovic is now looking for
more
autonomy under this constitution, as a way of keeping Montenegro inside
of
Yugoslavia, and we don't disagree with that.
We want to continue to see Montenegro as part of Yugoslavia. And we feel
that
a country made up of equal republics is a reasonable and decent way to
go.
SEN. G. SMITH: Ambassador Pardew, without a democratic change in
Belgrade --
I mean, is it realistic for Kosovo to be a truly autonomous province of
Serbia?
MR. PARDEW: On the long run, we have to have a democratic change in
Belgrade.
We are going to do everything that we possibly can to create the
institutions
of democracy in Kosovo with or without regard to what happens in
Belgrade.
But you're right; there are limits to how far you can go with the
current
regime in Belgrade. So I agree with you.
SEN. G. SMITH: Senator Biden?
SEN. BIDEN: Gentlemen, they are both good statements I believe -- and so
much
to ask. Let me start by picking up where the chairman left off.
Montenegro has basically issued an ultimatum to Serbia. And it says
that: "We
want greater autonomy. We want to be able to conduct relations with
other
countries without Belgrade's interference." And it set a deadline for
that to
occur. They are going to hold a referendum. That's been pushed back
until, as
I understand it, until September, the ultimatum.
I don't know where that goes. I mean, Milosevic, it seems to me, if he
accedes to that, demonstrates he has even less power than he's trying to
portray he has hold of, and if he doesn't, there's nothing he can do to
stop
what Montenegro's going to do. And I don't know how they stop that from
rolling down the -- that ball from rolling. Would you comment on that,
Ambassador Gelbard?
MR. GELBARD: First, under the constitution of the FRY, the federal
constitution, and under Montenegro's constitution, they do have certain
rights which go further than we would normally expect part of a
sovereign
state to have. For example, they do have legitimately their own foreign
minister and ability to conduct some foreign policy functions
constitutionally. They also have the right to have a referendum on
independence under their constitution.
My sense is that right now the vote would not go in favor of
independence.
But what's very clear, Senator, is that Milosevic has been the one who
has
pushed the Montenegrin people in this direction over the course of the
last
two years. As I mentioned in my testimony, Milosevic and his puppet, the
former president of Montenegro, Momir Bulatovic, tried to overthrow
Djukanovic before he was inaugurated as president on June 15th, 1998.
They
also increased the size of the army, the VJ, in Montenegro during the
conflict in Kosovo from 9,500, which is its usual size, up to 40,000 by
adding on reservists and some other regular army personnel. And it was a
very
delicate dance that took place there between the VJ and the police,
which
come under the Montenegrin government.
I think Milosevic knew that if the army tried to overthrow Djukanovic,
there
was likely to be civil war, the army was likely to fracture; and the
police
are quite strong. Nonetheless, the Montenegrin government is showing
prudence
in how it's trying to proceed. Djukanovic, by his own public statements,
has
said that he doesn't want independence; what he wants is equal
opportunity
inside of the FRY.
SEN. BIDEN: But he's threatened a referendum, hasn't he?
MR. GELBARD: He's threatened a referendum, which, as I said, is
legitimate
under their constitution.
SEN. BIDEN: Yeah.
MR. GELBARD: So I wouldn't want to give you a hypothetical answer about
where
this is going.
But Djukanovic is trying to keep his coalition to gether, he's trying to
cope
with the significantly increased percentage of the population who are
now
tremendously frustrated by Milosevic's boycotts and blockades against
the
Montenegrin people, and I think President Djukanovic deserves a great
deal of
credit for trying to walk a very delicate line right now, even as he's
trying
to stay inside Yugoslavia.
SEN. BIDEN: Great non-answer. (Laughter.) And I appreciate it very much.
It
seems to me, because I'm not a diplomat and most people don't care about
foreign policy and they forget what I have to say anyway --
MR. GELBARD: I never do, Senator.
SEN. BIDEN: It seems to me that Djukanovic has himself -- and I'm not
being
critical of him -- I mean, I think he's looking around and saying, "How
do I
cut my deal so that I get a major piece of this reconstruction that's
going
to go on in the Balkans here?" Not a whole lot that Serbia can do to
block
access now; boycotts are aren't going to matter a whole lot if, in fact,
they
attempt to.
And I just wonder how this is playing in Belgrade, whether or not they
fear a
referendum or Djukanovic fears a referendum more than Belgrade fears a
referendum, but you've -- you know, you've answered it as you probably
should.
We talk about -- Ambassador Pardew -- we talk about supporting the
media, a
free and open media. How? How do we do that? I thought you had said
that, or
maybe you said that --
MR. PARDEW: Yes. Yes.
SEN. BIDEN: Either one of you or both of you. Mechanically, how do we do
that?
MR. PARDEW: Well, we work through nongovernmental organizations. We have
established, as Ambassador Gelbard mentioned, a ring around Serbia,
which is
using international broadcasts, but we're offering that to independent
voices
in Serbia. We are using international facilities to make -- and making
them
available to independent groups.
SEN. BIDEN: Let me put it another way. We can make facilities available;
are
we prepared to shut down facilities that spew propaganda?
MR. GELBARD: Well, we have, senator.
SEN. BIDEN: We have. I mean --
MR. GELBARD: During the --
SEN. BIDEN: -- over the long haul? Is this the --
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, during the conflict in Kosovo we and our
allies --
SEN. BIDEN: No, I know that. I want to know from now.
MR. GELBARD: Well, the -- as far as I'm aware, Serb television has still
been
cut off the (EUTELSAT ?) facilities, and we've made sure that whenever
they
made an attempt -- and there was a brief moment when they got back on
another
satellite -- we shut them off those. What we're really trying to do, the
use
of the international facilities that Ambassador Pardew referred to,
particularly the RFE, RL, and the ring around Serbia, is a temporary
measure.
What we're trying to do over the long term is support an alternative
indigenous voice for the Serbian people through mechanisms such as ANEM,
the
Network of Independent Radio and Television. We have funds available
that we
were just about to deliver when the conflict broke out and Milosevic
switched
them off. But we have funds available that we are on the verge of
providing
to them again so that independent television and radio can be augmented
throughout Serbia. We're supporting Montenegran television and radio so
that
they can be another voice for the Serb opposition and the Serb people as
well
as, of course, for the Montenegran people. And we're looking at other
means
to really augment the capability or start up again the capability of
free
Serbian voices inside of Serbia.
MR. PARDEW: Can I add to that, senator?
SEN. BIDEN: Yes.
MR. PARDEW: We are -- the international community is promoting printing
of
newspapers that were previously printed in Kosovo now being printed in
Macedonia and distributed in Kosovo free of charge. You will hear from
John
Fox (sp) later, I think, from the Soros Foundation. They've been
instrumental
in putting funding in to independent radio in Kosovo. We encourage that.
The
former Serbian radio and TV in Pristina has been taken over by the
international community, and we've denied one access to one group to
dominate
that because we don't want a single voice, and we will ensure that there
are
multiple voices on this.
So there are a range of programs ongoing in Kosovo, as Bob mentioned.
SEN. BIDEN: What can we do about inside Serbia? For example, Draskovic
continues to deny access to Studio B, which is supposedly, as I
understand it
-- he's not?
MR. GELBARD: No, he's actually given access to Studio B -- excuse me;
given
access of Studio B to Radio B-92. And my understanding is that Radio
B-92,
one of the independent voices, has just reopened as Radio B-292. We want
Draskovic to open up Studio B to the rest of the opposition, and that's
a
message that he'll be getting from us in the next few days.
SEN. BIDEN: Last question, if I may, Mr. Chairman?
SEN. G. SMITH: Sure.
SEN. BIDEN: We all say, including me, that ultimately there is no
long-term
integration of the Balkans into an undivided Europe until Milosevic
goes. I
wonder whether we're saying that too much these days, including me. Let
me be
more precise.
As long as there is success in Sarajevo today -- I guess it's today or
tomorrow -- tomorrow, as long as the commitments are real, as long as
the
civilian police force is put in place, the media is not dominated, the
reconstruction of Kosovo and Macedonia and Montenegro and the
surrounding
areas really begins in earnest, with the European Community taking the
lead,
I don't know what Serbia can do, under Milosevic's leadership, that can
much
effect whether or not we succeed in that part. In other words,
admittedly, at
the end of the day, until the Serbian people have come to terms with
their
leadership and what was done, you can't have a solution here. But I
don't
know what Milosevic and an antagonistic Serbia can do, as a practical
matter,
to effect about 500 things we've got to do in the meantime anyway, to
begin
to put together, economically and politically, a larger plan for the
Balkans.
Am I missing something here?
MR. GELBARD: Senator, I believe that Milosevic has an infinite
capability for
creating damage. Even while he had so many problems at home, he tried to
overthrow the Dodik government, the moderate Bosnian Serb government in
Republika Srpska. We were able to stymie that, and the Dodik -- Dodik
and his
government emerged strong after the conflict --
SEN. BIDEN: Is that related to his ability if it -- when it was even a
possibility, to his ability to provide force to back up any effort that
would
be undertaken, ultimately? The ability to provide assistance?
MR. GELBARD: He still has the capability of providing force, not in
Bosnia,
but in Montenegro, and in his own perverse way --
SEN. BIDEN: How can he do that? Be specific --
MR. GELBARD: Through the army.
SEN. BIDEN: If in fact that occurs, I can't imagine that the
international
community and KFOR will not come down on that effort like a God- -- a
gosh-darn mountainside being blown up. I don't understand that. I mean,
do
you mean -- is there any doubt on the part of the alliance that if there
is
use of military force, of the VJ, in Montenegro, that we won't use all
force
available to us to take them out?
SEN. SMITH: Or are you telling us that we won't? I mean, I don't --
MR. GELBARD: I'm not certain that that is something which is in -- that
is
not necessarily in NATO's agreed NATO action at this point, or when the
current mandate terminates. If it isn't --
SEN. BIDEN: But --
MR. GELBARD: -- what I worry about is that Milosevic survives by
creating
trouble. He is in the worst trouble he's ever been. He's in a corner.
The
economy has collapsed totally. Real wages were at the same level as the
early
1950s before the conflict, and right now they have virtually no reserves
left. But this is why it is imperative to see a change in the regime, to
have
democratic government arrive in Belgrade as a way of having the region
whole.
That's why we --
SEN. BIDEN: I couldn't agree more, but let me --
MR. GELBARD: -- consider that to be an imperative in our foreign policy.
SEN. BIDEN: As you know, there has been no one that you have known in
Congress that has been more supportive of arriving at that conclusion,
but I
like to think I am a realist.
The idea that we are going to produce a democratic government in Serbia,
between now an d the end of the year, is about as likely as this podium
getting up and walking to the back of the room. And what I want to sort
of
disabuse everybody of here is a new State Department-arrived-at notion
that,
through State Department-speak, we are going to arrive at something
that's
not possible. The most likely thing to do is nail the son of a gun by
literally going in and getting him and dragging him to The Hague. If we
had a
brain in our collective heads, that's what we would do; literally, not
figuratively. But we are not going to do that because our European
friends
all lack the will, and we will lack the willingness to push that
forcefully.
And so I just hope that we make it clear that the idea that he may be
alive
and well in Serbia does not mean that we -- the isolation of Serbia and
him
in fact -- and him in particular does not allow us to pursue all our
other
objectives in the meantime. If they want to wither on the vine and die,
so be
it -- so be it -- which takes me to a question relating to aid.
We are saying -- we and the Europeans are saying that we will provide
humanitarian financial -- we are not planning financial assistance or
reconstruction aid but that we will provide humanitarian assistance. I
think
that is a very, very, very fine line to draw. And I think that we should
be
very aware that his ability to create mischief and gain credibility will
relate to how tightly we parse that.
How do we prevent Milosevic from claiming credit for Western assistance
to
Serbia, particularly when the media is still not a free media?
So I just -- I'm not even asking you to respond, because it's unfair. If
you'd like to, I'd welcome it. But I just think that this ain't over
till
it's over. It's not over till he's gone. But we cannot assume as long as
he's
[not?]gone we can hedge our assessment of what we're able to do outside
of
Serbia, in my humble opinion.
SEN. G. SMITH: I'd like to follow on to what Senator Biden is saying
here.
One of the reasons that I voted to support President Clinton and the
allies
in this action in Kosovo was my belief that if Milosevic could work this
kind
of mischief, we would be pinned down in Bosnia for a long, long, long
time,
and that by defanging his military, we could go home earlier. Is that a
naïve
belief on my part?
MR. GELBARD: Well, first, to answer Senator Biden's question --
SEN. G. SMITH: And by the way, I think he's going to commit mischief if
we're
saying that we're not willing to do anything.
MR. GELBARD: First to answer Senator Biden, though, Senator, I agree
with you.
That's why we are continuing to press ahead on all other initiatives and
we're working with the Europeans on the stability pact, which is a
regional
effort, a regional approach regarding democracy, security and economic
development. And that's what we feel it has to be, a regional focus on
every
place.
The line -- the fine line you ask about, I agree with you again. That's
why,
again, we're not trying to play games on the issue of assistance; we're
saying humanitarian assistance means food and medicine. We have looked
at
other types of possible assistance, but we feel, as I said in my
statement,
that it's imperative to maintain the isolation with the three layers of
sanctions -- the outer wall, Kosovo-related sanctions, and the wartime
sanctions.
And the -- President Clinton and the administration, entire
administration,
feel very strongly that we should be maintaining all these sanctions
until --
as a way of maintaining this type of isolation, because you're right, it
would be very easy to begin to blur the line. And I know, as you know,
Senator, there are countries out there that are interested in moving
over
different lines over time.
SEN. BIDEN: And I'm worried about us setting the bar so high that we
build in
failure here, because if a year from now there is not democracy in
Serbia,
after we keep talking this claptrap about, you know, democratic -- there
aren't any democratic forces in Serbia now. Draskovic ain't a Democrat.
This
guy is no box of chocolates. He's better than the other guy, but this is
no
box of chocolates. I think we should be honest about this.
And look, just to make it clear to you where I am, and just speaking as
one
senator, there's a big difference between clearing the bridge -- the
bridge
debris out of the Danube so our allies can use the Danube, and building
a new
bridge. I'll clear it. I will do everything in my power here to make
sure
there's not a cent that can be spent to build it.
And I just think that they've got to come to their -- the realization of
what
they have enabled Milosevic to do, and until there are democratic forces
there, I am -- like for example, the press asks me all the time, we
voted 100
-- what was it? -- $100 million in the Serbian -- I don't know who to
give it
to? Okay?
I mean, I know how -- I know what I'd like to give it to. But we
Americans
tend to think, whether it was Ronald Reagan in, you know, in Latin
America or
us in the Balkans, that there's some Jeffersonian democrat waiting to
spring
up somewhere to lead a -- you know, a democratic rival there. There
ain't no
Democrats in Serbia, that I've found. I mean -- democratic leadership,
that
has any realistic possibility of moving. So I guess what I'm trying to
say to
you is this. I just think it's a little bit like -- the secretary got
mad at
me when I a month ago said stop talking about Rambouillet, stop talking
about
how we want to bring them back to the table. We don't want to bring them
back, we want to beat the hell ou t of them until they stop. That's what
we
want. And that's the only thing that worked.
And I think this idea that we're really in effect saying we're not going
to
succeed until we have a democratic Serbia, then that is ultimate
success. But
I'm afraid you're going to have people up here saying, well, geez, it's
been
-- it's been four months, you know? -- don't have it yet, so I guess we
shouldn't be spending all this money doing this other stuff over here.
MR. GELBARD: Well, in fact, I said in my statement that in the short
term
it's hard to imagine that it will be able to achieve a democratic
solution in
Serbia. That's why we have to be prepared to support democratic forces
--
SEN. BIDEN: And there are democratic forces.
MR. GELBARD: Well --
SEN. BIDEN: Ain't much democratic leadership.
MR. GELBARD: Tomorrow a representative of the democratic opposition,
Draguslav Ovramovic (sp), will be in Sarajevo for the summit. This is a
man
who is a very high common denominator. He is part of the alliance for
change.
Vuk Draskovic is a really flawed individual. But --
SEN. BIDEN: He is the Rasputin of the 21st century, about to be. I mean,
we're not quite there yet.
MR. GELBARD: I'll tell him you said it. (Laughs.)
SEN. BIDEN: I told him that.
MR. GELBARD: Yeah.
SEN. BIDEN: So I -- I'd tell him. I --
MR. GELBARD: We still hope that he can be part of the solution here --
SEN.
BIDEN: I hope so, too, but he's going to take work.
MR. GELBARD: Mr. Chairman -- he's going to take a lot of work.
SEN. BIDEN: That's a very high maintenance fellow.
MR. GELBARD: I know. Believe me, I know. (Laughs.)
Mr. Chairman, regarding your question, the -- (stops) -- the Republika
Srpska
has emerged, coming out of the conflict, if anything with significantly
strengthened moderate leadership. The Dodik government is stronger than
they
were at the beginning of the year. They are stronger than they were
after the
elections in September.
When I last met with Prime Minister Dodik, about a month ago, he was
much
more comfortable, much more confident about his ability to govern. We
are
seeing that the extremes, who were weakened after the September national
elections, are becoming weaker still. High Representative Carlos
Westendorp,
whose last day is tomorrow, banished President Poplasen, the leader of
the
Radical Party, from his position, and it's now very clear that his
Radical
Party is weaker than ever, as is Karadzic's SDS. We see prospects for
the
moderates better than ever. And while there's still a ways to go, the
prospects look much better.
SEN. G. SMITH: Thank you.
MR. PARDEW: Could I just comment on the democracy issue? We don't have
any
illusions about who we're dealing with here, but I do think democracy is
an
aspiration of many of the Serb people. And in that regard, I don't think
we
ought to stop talking about it, Senator. I think we ought to -- we ought
to
continue to discuss it as an issue of --
SEN. BIDEN: I'm not suggesting we don't talk about it; I'm suggesting we
talk
about it realistically. I mean, for example, it's amazing what can
happen
when you eliminate the extremes. I mean, the single best thing that ever
happened to the Republic of Srpska is we kicked the living hell out of
Milosevic. There ain't no alternative left. That's the reason why it
happened. It had nothing to do with elections, it had to do with the
fact
that Westendorp had the right idea, number one; and number two, there
ain't
no alternative. Belgrade's no beacon, no help, no place to go. So there
is no
alternative. It's amazing what a salutary impact that has upon extremes
in
countries.
And that's why the single best thing we -- my dream is to visit
Milosevic in
prison. (Laughter.) I mean that sincerely. I'm not being facetious.
Because
you put Milosevic in prison, and things in the region will change
drastically.
If you said to me, "You can leave him where he is or give him a plane
ticket
to take off to some -- like the former leader of Uganda, well, you know,
we
gave him -- what was his name? -- Idi Amin -- we can give him an "Idi
Amin
passport"
and he would leave; I'd say no, leave him there, leave him there till we
get
him. Put him in jail. Short of that, I don't know how we get to the
point.
And by the way, I often wondered, Karadzic's party, the SDS, the only
misnomer, it should have dropped the "D." I mean, these guys are BAD
guys.
BAD guys. They're no good. SEN. G. SMITH: When Senator Biden makes that
visit
to that prison, I want to be your junior companion.
Gentlemen, thank you very much for your testimony. We appreciate it.
SEN. BIDEN: Thanks.
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ORIZZONTI JUGOSLAVI
Quale ricostruzione in Serbia?Quale futuro per i profughi dal Kosovo?
A nome dei lavoratori e degli sfollati, porteranno lo loro
testimonianza:Sreten MILICEVIC, presidente sindacato ZASTAVA autoveicoli
Svetlana ZIRKOVIC, ex direttrice della scuola di Economia di Urosevac
Dragan PETKOVIC, ex avvocato di Pristina
Parteciperanno al successivo dibattito:Fabio Alberti, (Un Ponte per ),
Tommaso Di Francesco, (il manifesto),
Carlo Pona, (Servizio Civile Internazionale),
Loris Campetti, (il manifesto)
Un Ponte per associazione di volontariato per la solidarietà
internazionalevia della Guglia, 69/a 00186 Roma tel. 066780808
===
TRIESTE
Internazionalismo e solidarietà wrote:
>
> L'Associazione "Internazionalismo e solidarietà" aderisce
> all'appello e sarà presente all'assemblea nazionale del
> Tribunale Clark a Roma il 3 giugno.
> Diamo inoltre comunicazione dell'iniziativa prevista a Trieste il
> 26 maggio prossimo.
>
> p. l'ass.
> Giorgio Ellero
> Trieste
> <glr_y@...>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> TRIBUNALE CLARK:
>
> INCONTRO A TRIESTE IL 26 MAGGIO 2000
>
> L' Associazione Internazionalismo e solidarietà
> promuove l'iniziativa pubblica :
>
> IL "TRIBUNALE INTERNAZIONALE CLARK"
>
> E LA GUERRA DELLA NATO NEI BALCANI
>
> Saranno discusse le conseguenze ambientali dei
> bombardamenti, gli aspetti giuridici dell'intervento e l'uso
> dell'informazione prima, durante e dopo la primavera del '99.
>
> Interverranno :
>
> Carlo PONA - Per il Tribunale Clark - fisico
>
> Predrag POLIC - Professore di Chimica applicata presso
> l'Università di Belgrado;
>
> Andrea MARTOCCHIA - Per il Comitato Scienziate/i contro la
> guerra - fisico
>
> Pasquale VILARDO - Per il Tribunale Clark - avvocato
>
> L'incontro si terrà presso l'Aula Magna del Dipartimento di
> Storia dell'Università di Trieste, androna Economo 4,
> Venerdi' 26 maggio 2000 alle ore 16.30.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------end
===
UDINE
IL VIAGGIO DELL'URANIO
Da Aviano a Belgrado una lunga scia di veleni
Attraverso l'Adriatico, fino ai Balcani, i caccia NATO hanno ucciso
anche l'aria, l'acqua e la terra. Un dibattito sugli effetti ambientali
della guerra in Jugoslavia
moderatore: A. Misdariis - segr. circolo PRC Udine
I. Scotti (biologo, PRC Udine): introduzione
R. Antonaz (cons. reg. PRC): motivazioni della guerra in Jugoslavia
Com. Unitario contro Aviano 2000: impatto ambientale della base USAF
P. Polic (chimico, comm. ambiente ONU): l'uso del DU nella RFJ
C. Pona (fisico, trib. Clark): conseguenze ambientali dei bombardamenti
A. Martocchia (fisico, trib. Clark): legalita' e disinformazione
R. Mantovani (resp. naz. PRC Esteri): conclusioni
SABATO 27 MAGGIO 2000 ORE 17
Palazzo Kechler (Piazza XX Settembre), Udine
udine@...
===
TORINO
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE di fronte alle nuove guerre
Politecnico di Torino, Sala del Consiglio di Facoltà, 22-23 giugno 2000
Giovedì 22 giugno
9.00 - Presentazione del convegno a nome del comitato Scienziate e
Scienziati contro la guerra (Elisabetta Donini e Massimo Zucchetti)
Saluti da parte dei Rettori del Politecnico e dell' Università
9.30 - I sessione : INFORMAZIONE E DISINFORMAZIONE: CULTURA, SCIENZA E
GUERRE (coordinanatori: Giulia Barone e
Chiara Cavallaro)
Angelo D'Orsi "Uso strumentale della storia"
Giovanni Salio: "Ricerca scientifica e ricerca per la pace nella
prospettiva della trasformazione nonviolenta dei conflitti"
10.30 - Dibattito
11.00 - Pausa
11.30 - G.Barone, G.Carpi, F.Marenco, A.Martocchia "Disinformazione e
guerra- Problemi della ricostruzione storica della guerra dei Balcani,
1991-2000"
Antonino Drago "Modelli logici, matematici e fisici dei conflitti e
delle loro soluzioni"
Angelo Raffaele Meo "I miti della ricerca militare"
Enrico Peyretti "Giornalismo di pace"
Adriana Valente " Documentazione, comunicazione scientifica e tecnologie
dell'informazione tra guerra e pace"
12.30 - Dibattito
13.00 - Pausa
14.30 - II sessione : CONSEGUENZE ECOLOGICHE E SANITARIE DELLE GUERRE
(Coordinatori: Alberto Tarozzi e Massimo
Zucchetti)
Paolo Bartolomei, Carlo Pona "Problematiche relative all'uso dell'uranio
impoverito in ambito militare"
Ivan Greztic "Effetti ambientali della guerra in Jugoslavia"
Mica Saric "Conseguenze igienico-sanitarie dei bombardamenti NATO sul
complesso industriale di Pancevo"
16.00 - Dibattito
16.30 - Pausa
17.00 - C. Bracci, A. Di Napoli, N. Eminovic, L. Khosrawi, M Ferraro,
A.Taviani, E. Zerbino : "Un 'nuovo modello' militare: produrre vittime"
Mauro Cristaldi : "Reti di biomonitoraggio per valutazioni preventive di
rischio territoriale"
Cristina Giannardi, Daniele Dominici : "Munizioni con uranio impoverito:
una stima per la guerra del Kosovo"
Natasha Lazovic : "Il problema dell'inquinamento chimico nelle falde
sotterranee della Vojvodina"
18.00 - Dibattito
18.30 - Rinfresco
20.00 - Riunione del comitato
Venerdì 23 giugno
9.00 - III sessione: QUESTIONI STRATEGICO-MILITARI (Coordinanatori :
Luigi Cortesi e Angelo Raffaele Meo)
Angelo Baracca, Francesco Polcaro : "La nuova corsa al riarmo e i rischi
crescenti di uso effettivo di armi di distruzione di massa"
Alberto Di Fazio : "Questioni strategico-militari, negoziati UN, e
problema energetico"
10.00 - Dibattito
10.30 - Pausa
11.00 - Guido Carpi "Il Kosovo nella politica estera italiana del
Novecento"
Gastone Dall'Asen "La guerra 'umanitaria contro la Repubblica Federale
Jugoslava nella giurisprudenza penale nazionale"
Luciano Vasapollo "Nuovi scenari geoeconomici dello sviluppo
internazionale: il controllo dell'area balcanica"
Pasquale Vilardo "Stato delle denunce del tribunale Ramsey Clarke"
12.00 - Dibattito
12.30 - Pausa
14.30 - Tavola rotonda: SCIENZE E TECNOLOGIE: SAPERI E RESPONSABILITA'
DIGUERRA E DI PACE (Coordinatore: Claudio
Cancelli)
18.00 - Fine del convegno
Home page del Convegno :
http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni/index.html
===
ROMA 3 GIUGNO 2000
VIA PIETRO COSSA 40 SALA UNIVERSITA VALDESE
DALLE ORE 9.00
PROIEZIONE VIDEO, MOSTRE FOTOGRAFICHE
TRIBUNA APERTA TRA I COMITATI E LE ASSOCIAZIONI
ORE 15.00
SESSIONE FINALE DELLA SEZIONE ITALIANA DEL
TRIBUNALE INDIPENDENTE CONTRO I CRIMINI DELLA
NATO IN JUGOSLAVIA
Il 31 luglio 1999 hanno avuto inizio a New York le attivita' del
"TRIBUNALE
INTERNAZIONALE INDIPENDENTE CONTRO I CRIMINI DELLA NATO IN
JUGOSLAVIA", promosso da Ramsey Clark, con la stesura di 19 punti di
accusa contro la NATO
ed i governi occidentali.
Le attivita' del "Tribunale" hanno trovato seguito in molti altri paesi
del mondo. In Italia il primo
novembre 1999 alla presenza di Ramsey Clark ha preso il via la sezione
italiana del Tribunale. Nel
corso di questi mesi, confortati dal crescente interesse suscitato e
dalle numerose iniziative di
presentazione del "Tribunale Italiano" in molte citta', abbiamo potuto
verificare con dati oggettivi
la veridicita' delle nostre accuse.
A completamento del lavoro svolto in questi mesi, noi sottoscritti
firmatari di questo appello
accusiamo le massime autorità della Repubblica in carica nel marzo 1999
- in particolare il
presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri Massimo D'Alema e i ministri del
governo per la
partecipazione alla guerra illegale e il Presidente della Repubblica
Oscar Luigi Scalfaro per non
aver difeso la Costituzione - nonchè i loro successori per quanto
attiene ai crimini in continuità
con l'aggressione armata, ciascuno secondo la personale responsabilità
scaturente dalle diverse
competenze, azioni e
omissioni:
per avere collaborato attivamente all'aggressione contro la Repubblica
Federale Jugoslava, paese
sovrano da cui non era venuta nessuna minaccia nè all'Italia nè ai suoi
alleati;
per avere violato tutti i principi del diritto internazionale e in
particolare la Carta delle Nazioni
Unite, i principi del Tribunale di Norimberga, le Convenzioni di Ginevra
e i protocolli aggiuntivi
sulla tutela delle popolazioni civili nonchè lo stesso trattato
istitutivo della NATO;
per aver consentito che dal proprio territorio partissero attacchi
contro istallazioni e popolazioni
civili, condotti su obiettivi e con armi appositamente studiate per
infliggere il massimo danno,
anche protratto nel tempo, alle persone e alle loro condizioni di vita
(attacchi deliberati contro
strutture civili, bombe a grappolo);
per aver danneggiato leconomia della costa adriatica con la chiusura
degli aeroporti civili;
per aver consentito lo smaltimento nelle acque territoriali italiane di
ordigni bellici non utilizzati
causando danni alle persone, allambiente alleconomia;
per aver consentito l'utilizzo in maniera massiccia di proiettili e
missili all'uranio impoverito
causando danni incalcolabili e per un tempo indeterminato contro le
popolazioni della Federazione
Jugoslava e dei paesi limitrofi, con enormi rischi attuali anche per i
volontari civili e per i militari
italiani impegnati nel Kosovo.
per aver partecipato al bombardamento di impianti chimici e farmaceutici
causando
deliberatamente danni ambientali di enorme rilevanza tali da configurare
una vera e propria guerra
batteriologica, chimica e nucleare;
per aver violato la Costituzione italiana e aggirato le procedure che
essa impone in caso di guerra
(concepibile solo come difesa da attacchi contro il nostro paese e i
suoi alleati);
per aver collaborato alla politica della forza di occupazione della NATO
che obiettivamente ha
portato alla instaurazione di un potere criminale nella provincia
jugoslava del Kosmet e alla
persecuzione ed espulsione della popolazione di etnia serba e di altre
etnie non albanesi, nonchè
degli albanesi considerati indesiderabili dal nuovo potere;
per avere obiettivamente tollerato l'emergere e il consolidarsi di un
potente centro di attività
criminali a ridosso del nostro paese nel triangolo
Albania-Kosovo-Montenegro;
per avere attivamente collaborato ad affamare e sacrificare la
popolazione della Jugoslavia con
l'imposizione di misure di embargo internazionalmente illeggittime;
per avere attivamente collaborato a esercitare pressioni e ingerenze
contro un paese sovrano e le
sue legittime istituzioni;
per avere inviato truppe e personale civile a governare territori
ridotti di fatto a nuovi protettorati e
colonie in violazione della stessa risoluzione ONU 1244;
per aver messo in piedi al fine di giustificare l'intervento militare
la scandalosa campagna della
MISSIONE ARCOBALENO e per avere mentito al popolo italiano al fine di
convincere l'opinione
pubblica della necessità di partecipare alla guerra;
per avere rinunciato all'esercizio della sovranità del nostro paese e al
diritto-dovere di controllo di
tutte le attività che vi svolgono comandi, strutture e mezzi militari
stranieri;
per avere acconsentito a modificare, senza nessuna decisione del
Parlamento, lo statuto della
NATO.
Queste accuse, saranno esposte e ampiamente documentate il 3 giugno a
Roma nella sessione
plenaria del Tribunale Indipendente contro i crimini NATO costituitosi
in Italia che si terrà presso
l'Università Valdese (via Pietro Cossa 40) e saranno quindi portate a
New York, dove il 10 giugno
si riunirà il Tribunale Internazionale Indipendente promosso dall'ex
Ministro della Giustizia USA
Ramsey Clark.
Invitiamo tutti i cittadini, le associazioni, le personalità consapevoli
della necessità di impedire
che tali crimini siano perpetuati e diventino anzi la norma delle
relazioni internazionali, a sostenere
l'iniziativa della sezione italiana del Tribunale Clark e la raccolta di
testimonianze e documenti e
partecipare attivamente all'assemblea del 3 giugno a Roma.
===
11 GIUGNO 2000
Giornata Nazionale di Raccolta Firme per "Rompere l'Embargo"
all'Iraq
a chiusura della campagna
io rompo! rompi anche tu
Organizzando banchetti, assemblee, proiezioni e dibattiti,
petizioni ai sindaci e ai comuni, sit-in e qualunque altra idea ti
venga in mente
Contattaci per farti inviare il materiale (manifesti, pieghevoli e
adesivi), gli
originali della petizione e del volantino, comunica le iniziative
a:
Tel. 06/6780808, Fax 06/6793968, Mail
rompere-lembargo@...
--------- COORDINAMENTO ROMANO PER LA JUGOSLAVIA -----------
RIMSKI SAVEZ ZA JUGOSLAVIJU
e-mail: crj@... - URL: http://marx2001.org/crj
http://www.egroups.com/group/crj-mailinglist/
------------------------------------------------------------
* 3 GIUGNO 2000: "TRIBUNALE CLARK"
* 11 GIUGNO 2000: "ROMPERE L'EMBARGO"
NOTA: Il 1 Giugno l'Iniziativa di Vicenza è Rinviata
Per problemi tecnici l'iniziativa del 1 giugno a Vicenza è rinviata. Per
Informazioni: sparta@...
===
ROMA
Libreria Internazionale «il manifesto"Via Tomacelli 144 - Roma
Giovedì 25 Maggio alle ore 17.00
ORIZZONTI JUGOSLAVI
Quale ricostruzione in Serbia?Quale futuro per i profughi dal Kosovo?
A nome dei lavoratori e degli sfollati, porteranno lo loro
testimonianza:Sreten MILICEVIC, presidente sindacato ZASTAVA autoveicoli
Svetlana ZIRKOVIC, ex direttrice della scuola di Economia di Urosevac
Dragan PETKOVIC, ex avvocato di Pristina
Parteciperanno al successivo dibattito:Fabio Alberti, (Un Ponte per ),
Tommaso Di Francesco, (il manifesto),
Carlo Pona, (Servizio Civile Internazionale),
Loris Campetti, (il manifesto)
Un Ponte per associazione di volontariato per la solidarietà
internazionalevia della Guglia, 69/a 00186 Roma tel. 066780808
===
TRIESTE
Internazionalismo e solidarietà wrote:
>
> L'Associazione "Internazionalismo e solidarietà" aderisce
> all'appello e sarà presente all'assemblea nazionale del
> Tribunale Clark a Roma il 3 giugno.
> Diamo inoltre comunicazione dell'iniziativa prevista a Trieste il
> 26 maggio prossimo.
>
> p. l'ass.
> Giorgio Ellero
> Trieste
> <glr_y@...>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> TRIBUNALE CLARK:
>
> INCONTRO A TRIESTE IL 26 MAGGIO 2000
>
> L' Associazione Internazionalismo e solidarietà
> promuove l'iniziativa pubblica :
>
> IL "TRIBUNALE INTERNAZIONALE CLARK"
>
> E LA GUERRA DELLA NATO NEI BALCANI
>
> Saranno discusse le conseguenze ambientali dei
> bombardamenti, gli aspetti giuridici dell'intervento e l'uso
> dell'informazione prima, durante e dopo la primavera del '99.
>
> Interverranno :
>
> Carlo PONA - Per il Tribunale Clark - fisico
>
> Predrag POLIC - Professore di Chimica applicata presso
> l'Università di Belgrado;
>
> Andrea MARTOCCHIA - Per il Comitato Scienziate/i contro la
> guerra - fisico
>
> Pasquale VILARDO - Per il Tribunale Clark - avvocato
>
> L'incontro si terrà presso l'Aula Magna del Dipartimento di
> Storia dell'Università di Trieste, androna Economo 4,
> Venerdi' 26 maggio 2000 alle ore 16.30.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------end
===
UDINE
IL VIAGGIO DELL'URANIO
Da Aviano a Belgrado una lunga scia di veleni
Attraverso l'Adriatico, fino ai Balcani, i caccia NATO hanno ucciso
anche l'aria, l'acqua e la terra. Un dibattito sugli effetti ambientali
della guerra in Jugoslavia
moderatore: A. Misdariis - segr. circolo PRC Udine
I. Scotti (biologo, PRC Udine): introduzione
R. Antonaz (cons. reg. PRC): motivazioni della guerra in Jugoslavia
Com. Unitario contro Aviano 2000: impatto ambientale della base USAF
P. Polic (chimico, comm. ambiente ONU): l'uso del DU nella RFJ
C. Pona (fisico, trib. Clark): conseguenze ambientali dei bombardamenti
A. Martocchia (fisico, trib. Clark): legalita' e disinformazione
R. Mantovani (resp. naz. PRC Esteri): conclusioni
SABATO 27 MAGGIO 2000 ORE 17
Palazzo Kechler (Piazza XX Settembre), Udine
udine@...
===
TORINO
CULTURA, SCIENZA e INFORMAZIONE di fronte alle nuove guerre
Politecnico di Torino, Sala del Consiglio di Facoltà, 22-23 giugno 2000
Giovedì 22 giugno
9.00 - Presentazione del convegno a nome del comitato Scienziate e
Scienziati contro la guerra (Elisabetta Donini e Massimo Zucchetti)
Saluti da parte dei Rettori del Politecnico e dell' Università
9.30 - I sessione : INFORMAZIONE E DISINFORMAZIONE: CULTURA, SCIENZA E
GUERRE (coordinanatori: Giulia Barone e
Chiara Cavallaro)
Angelo D'Orsi "Uso strumentale della storia"
Giovanni Salio: "Ricerca scientifica e ricerca per la pace nella
prospettiva della trasformazione nonviolenta dei conflitti"
10.30 - Dibattito
11.00 - Pausa
11.30 - G.Barone, G.Carpi, F.Marenco, A.Martocchia "Disinformazione e
guerra- Problemi della ricostruzione storica della guerra dei Balcani,
1991-2000"
Antonino Drago "Modelli logici, matematici e fisici dei conflitti e
delle loro soluzioni"
Angelo Raffaele Meo "I miti della ricerca militare"
Enrico Peyretti "Giornalismo di pace"
Adriana Valente " Documentazione, comunicazione scientifica e tecnologie
dell'informazione tra guerra e pace"
12.30 - Dibattito
13.00 - Pausa
14.30 - II sessione : CONSEGUENZE ECOLOGICHE E SANITARIE DELLE GUERRE
(Coordinatori: Alberto Tarozzi e Massimo
Zucchetti)
Paolo Bartolomei, Carlo Pona "Problematiche relative all'uso dell'uranio
impoverito in ambito militare"
Ivan Greztic "Effetti ambientali della guerra in Jugoslavia"
Mica Saric "Conseguenze igienico-sanitarie dei bombardamenti NATO sul
complesso industriale di Pancevo"
16.00 - Dibattito
16.30 - Pausa
17.00 - C. Bracci, A. Di Napoli, N. Eminovic, L. Khosrawi, M Ferraro,
A.Taviani, E. Zerbino : "Un 'nuovo modello' militare: produrre vittime"
Mauro Cristaldi : "Reti di biomonitoraggio per valutazioni preventive di
rischio territoriale"
Cristina Giannardi, Daniele Dominici : "Munizioni con uranio impoverito:
una stima per la guerra del Kosovo"
Natasha Lazovic : "Il problema dell'inquinamento chimico nelle falde
sotterranee della Vojvodina"
18.00 - Dibattito
18.30 - Rinfresco
20.00 - Riunione del comitato
Venerdì 23 giugno
9.00 - III sessione: QUESTIONI STRATEGICO-MILITARI (Coordinanatori :
Luigi Cortesi e Angelo Raffaele Meo)
Angelo Baracca, Francesco Polcaro : "La nuova corsa al riarmo e i rischi
crescenti di uso effettivo di armi di distruzione di massa"
Alberto Di Fazio : "Questioni strategico-militari, negoziati UN, e
problema energetico"
10.00 - Dibattito
10.30 - Pausa
11.00 - Guido Carpi "Il Kosovo nella politica estera italiana del
Novecento"
Gastone Dall'Asen "La guerra 'umanitaria contro la Repubblica Federale
Jugoslava nella giurisprudenza penale nazionale"
Luciano Vasapollo "Nuovi scenari geoeconomici dello sviluppo
internazionale: il controllo dell'area balcanica"
Pasquale Vilardo "Stato delle denunce del tribunale Ramsey Clarke"
12.00 - Dibattito
12.30 - Pausa
14.30 - Tavola rotonda: SCIENZE E TECNOLOGIE: SAPERI E RESPONSABILITA'
DIGUERRA E DI PACE (Coordinatore: Claudio
Cancelli)
18.00 - Fine del convegno
Home page del Convegno :
http://www.iac.rm.cnr.it/~marco/SP/convegni/index.html
===
ROMA 3 GIUGNO 2000
VIA PIETRO COSSA 40 SALA UNIVERSITA VALDESE
DALLE ORE 9.00
PROIEZIONE VIDEO, MOSTRE FOTOGRAFICHE
TRIBUNA APERTA TRA I COMITATI E LE ASSOCIAZIONI
ORE 15.00
SESSIONE FINALE DELLA SEZIONE ITALIANA DEL
TRIBUNALE INDIPENDENTE CONTRO I CRIMINI DELLA
NATO IN JUGOSLAVIA
Il 31 luglio 1999 hanno avuto inizio a New York le attivita' del
"TRIBUNALE
INTERNAZIONALE INDIPENDENTE CONTRO I CRIMINI DELLA NATO IN
JUGOSLAVIA", promosso da Ramsey Clark, con la stesura di 19 punti di
accusa contro la NATO
ed i governi occidentali.
Le attivita' del "Tribunale" hanno trovato seguito in molti altri paesi
del mondo. In Italia il primo
novembre 1999 alla presenza di Ramsey Clark ha preso il via la sezione
italiana del Tribunale. Nel
corso di questi mesi, confortati dal crescente interesse suscitato e
dalle numerose iniziative di
presentazione del "Tribunale Italiano" in molte citta', abbiamo potuto
verificare con dati oggettivi
la veridicita' delle nostre accuse.
A completamento del lavoro svolto in questi mesi, noi sottoscritti
firmatari di questo appello
accusiamo le massime autorità della Repubblica in carica nel marzo 1999
- in particolare il
presidente del Consiglio dei Ministri Massimo D'Alema e i ministri del
governo per la
partecipazione alla guerra illegale e il Presidente della Repubblica
Oscar Luigi Scalfaro per non
aver difeso la Costituzione - nonchè i loro successori per quanto
attiene ai crimini in continuità
con l'aggressione armata, ciascuno secondo la personale responsabilità
scaturente dalle diverse
competenze, azioni e
omissioni:
per avere collaborato attivamente all'aggressione contro la Repubblica
Federale Jugoslava, paese
sovrano da cui non era venuta nessuna minaccia nè all'Italia nè ai suoi
alleati;
per avere violato tutti i principi del diritto internazionale e in
particolare la Carta delle Nazioni
Unite, i principi del Tribunale di Norimberga, le Convenzioni di Ginevra
e i protocolli aggiuntivi
sulla tutela delle popolazioni civili nonchè lo stesso trattato
istitutivo della NATO;
per aver consentito che dal proprio territorio partissero attacchi
contro istallazioni e popolazioni
civili, condotti su obiettivi e con armi appositamente studiate per
infliggere il massimo danno,
anche protratto nel tempo, alle persone e alle loro condizioni di vita
(attacchi deliberati contro
strutture civili, bombe a grappolo);
per aver danneggiato leconomia della costa adriatica con la chiusura
degli aeroporti civili;
per aver consentito lo smaltimento nelle acque territoriali italiane di
ordigni bellici non utilizzati
causando danni alle persone, allambiente alleconomia;
per aver consentito l'utilizzo in maniera massiccia di proiettili e
missili all'uranio impoverito
causando danni incalcolabili e per un tempo indeterminato contro le
popolazioni della Federazione
Jugoslava e dei paesi limitrofi, con enormi rischi attuali anche per i
volontari civili e per i militari
italiani impegnati nel Kosovo.
per aver partecipato al bombardamento di impianti chimici e farmaceutici
causando
deliberatamente danni ambientali di enorme rilevanza tali da configurare
una vera e propria guerra
batteriologica, chimica e nucleare;
per aver violato la Costituzione italiana e aggirato le procedure che
essa impone in caso di guerra
(concepibile solo come difesa da attacchi contro il nostro paese e i
suoi alleati);
per aver collaborato alla politica della forza di occupazione della NATO
che obiettivamente ha
portato alla instaurazione di un potere criminale nella provincia
jugoslava del Kosmet e alla
persecuzione ed espulsione della popolazione di etnia serba e di altre
etnie non albanesi, nonchè
degli albanesi considerati indesiderabili dal nuovo potere;
per avere obiettivamente tollerato l'emergere e il consolidarsi di un
potente centro di attività
criminali a ridosso del nostro paese nel triangolo
Albania-Kosovo-Montenegro;
per avere attivamente collaborato ad affamare e sacrificare la
popolazione della Jugoslavia con
l'imposizione di misure di embargo internazionalmente illeggittime;
per avere attivamente collaborato a esercitare pressioni e ingerenze
contro un paese sovrano e le
sue legittime istituzioni;
per avere inviato truppe e personale civile a governare territori
ridotti di fatto a nuovi protettorati e
colonie in violazione della stessa risoluzione ONU 1244;
per aver messo in piedi al fine di giustificare l'intervento militare
la scandalosa campagna della
MISSIONE ARCOBALENO e per avere mentito al popolo italiano al fine di
convincere l'opinione
pubblica della necessità di partecipare alla guerra;
per avere rinunciato all'esercizio della sovranità del nostro paese e al
diritto-dovere di controllo di
tutte le attività che vi svolgono comandi, strutture e mezzi militari
stranieri;
per avere acconsentito a modificare, senza nessuna decisione del
Parlamento, lo statuto della
NATO.
Queste accuse, saranno esposte e ampiamente documentate il 3 giugno a
Roma nella sessione
plenaria del Tribunale Indipendente contro i crimini NATO costituitosi
in Italia che si terrà presso
l'Università Valdese (via Pietro Cossa 40) e saranno quindi portate a
New York, dove il 10 giugno
si riunirà il Tribunale Internazionale Indipendente promosso dall'ex
Ministro della Giustizia USA
Ramsey Clark.
Invitiamo tutti i cittadini, le associazioni, le personalità consapevoli
della necessità di impedire
che tali crimini siano perpetuati e diventino anzi la norma delle
relazioni internazionali, a sostenere
l'iniziativa della sezione italiana del Tribunale Clark e la raccolta di
testimonianze e documenti e
partecipare attivamente all'assemblea del 3 giugno a Roma.
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>
>
> BELGRADE, 15 May 2000
>
> ASSASSINATION OF VOJVODINA EXECUTIVE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
PEROSEVIC
>
> a.. -PRESIDENT MILOSEVIC'S WREATH ON PEROSEVIC'S BIER
> b.. -MATIC: PEROSEVIC'S ASSASSINATION AIMED AT
DESTABILIZING
>YUGOSLAVIA
> c.. -MONTENEGRIN PRIME MINISTER EXPRESSED CONDOLENCES
> FROM THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA
>
> a.. -HOUSING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT STARTS
> b.. -JOVANOVIC: FORCES WHICH COMMITTED AGGRESSION STOKE
>TERRORISM AND SEPARATISM
> c.. -BOZOVIC: KOSOVO AND METOHIJA CRADLE OF SERBS' BEING
> d.. -GEN.LAZAREVIC: ARMY IS INDIVISIBLE FROM PEOPLE
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - RUSSIA
>
> a.. -MINISTER JOVANOVIC ARRIVED IN MOSCOW
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - CHINA
>
> a.. -YUGOSLAV GOVERNMENT DELEGATION ENDED VISIT TO CHINA
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - AUSTRALIA
>
> a.. -YUGOSLAV SECURITIES COMMISSION DELEGATION VISITED
SIDNEY
> * * *
>
> ASSASSINATION OF VOJVODINA EXECUTIVE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
PEROSEVIC
>
> PRESIDENT MILOSEVIC'S WREATH ON PEROSEVIC'S BIER
>
> NOVI SAD, May 15 (Tanjug) - On the bier of the tragically
deceased
>President of the Vojvodina Executive Council Bosko Perosevic, in the
Vojvodina
>executive council building, around 14 hours was laid the wreath of the
>President of Yugoslavia, Slobodan Milosevic and of his wife Mira Markovic.
>
> In the honourary guard next to the bier of Bosko Perosevic
stood
>in turn during the morning members of Vojvodina executive council and his
>colleagues from the Socialist Party of Serbia.
>
> Outside the building of Vojvidina executive council thousands
of
>citizens of Novi Sad paid their last respects to the tragically deceased
Bosko
>Perosevic.
>
> MATIC: PEROSEVIC'S ASSASSINATION AIMED AT DESTABILIZING
YUGOSLAVIA
>
> BELGRADE, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Information Minister Goran
>Matic said on Sunday that the assassination of Vojvodina Executive Council
>President Bosko Perosevic is a terrorist act of murder of yet another
person
>from the list of undesired citizens of Yugoslavia drawn up by the European
>Union and United States.
>
> Speaking at a press conference for home and foreign reporters,
>Matic said this assassination was not an individual act by a maniac, but
>"organized murder which has a deep ideological and political background,
aimed
>at the further destabilization of Yugoslavia from outside, by the same
mentors
>who carried out the armed aggression and all forms of pressures on our
>country."
>
> Matic said the assassin, Milivoje Gutovic, 50, a sympathizer of
>the Serbian Renewal Movement (SPO) and an activist of the Otpor
("Resistance")
>organization, was found to possess a pamphlet on "Terrorism - a form of
>special warfare and who are the assassins of Aldo Moro" and other documents
>which indicate that this murder was planned.
>
> Asked by reporters whether new arrests could be expected in
>connection with Perosevic's assassination, Matic said an investigation was
>under way and added, quoting an official Interior Ministry statement, that
>persons who are believed to have ordered the killing and instigated this
>action were also being investigated and that Gutovic was not the only
person
>arrested so far.
>
> Yugoslavia is today "faced with the concept of an active
>destabilization through terrorism and crime which is infiltrated from
>Republika Srpska and partly from Montenegro, and whose mentors are the very
>ones who loudly speak about democracy and human rights," said Matic. The
wave
>of terrorism set off by part of the vasal political opposition in Serbia
with
>the creation of the Otpor ("Resistance") organization is extremely
reminiscent
>of the political terrorism of the Red Brigades in Italy in the late
seventies,
>he said.
>
> "We are today witness in our territory to absolutely the same
>practice which had been present in Italy at that time - murders of
prominent
>figures from political and business circles, with the tightening of
sanctions
>and all kinds of pressure in order to crush our just struggle," the federal
>information minister said.
>
> "We can openly say that the structures of aggression still
remain
>the same. NATO has not dismissed its spokesmen and its headquarters for
>exerting pressure on Yugoslavia. They are still working. Even though the
main
>champions of pressuring have not been dismissed, some of them, and those
who
>have been proven unsuccessful, have been sacked. However, economic pressure
is
>still strong, which is aimed at isolating the country and forcibly changing
>the socio-political system and the legally elected authorities. There is a
>tendency to create such a system in which society will be vulgarized, with
>stoked criminal activities, and the subsistence level brought on by the
>sanctions becoming the regulator of social relations in Yugoslav society,"
>Matic said.
>
> "Countries which lecture us on democracy and freedom are
>black-listing Yugoslav companies, citizens, although it is crystal clear
that
>the process and promotion of development and democracy in Yugoslavia is
more
>advanced not only than in so-called countries in transition, but even than
in
>the very countries which lecture us," Minister Matic said.
>
> MONTENEGRIN PRIME MINISTER EXPRESSED CONDOLENCES
>
> PODGORICA, May 15 (Tanjug) - Montenegrin Prime Minister Filip
>Vujanovic sent a telegram of condolences to the Vojvodina Executive Council
on
>Sunday, on the occasion of the tragic death of its President Bosko
Perosevic.
>
> Vujanovic asked that his expressions of sympathies and those of
>the Montenegrin government be conveyed also to the family of the deceased.
>
> FROM THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA
>
> HOUSING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT STARTS
>
> VRANJE, May 15 (Tanjug) - Serbian Premier Mirko Marjanovic on
>Monday, at a central ceremony in Vranje, marked the beginning of works on
the
>building of 100,000 apartments whose realization starts at the same time in
19
>centers in Serbia.
>
> Accelerated housing construction is an essential development
goal
>- every year 10,000 families will solve the most important problem in their
>life, and besides the full employment of construction workers, a chain of
>production will be started in industry, Marjanovic said at a large popular
>rally of tens of thousands of residents of the Pcinj and Jablanica
districts.
>
> "The realization of each of these projects will give a new
impetus
>to speedy economic growth and the development of the entire country, the
>creation of new jobs for young and educated people, a rise of standard and
>better life for citizens," Marjanovic said.
>
> Pointing out that heroic defense and major results in the
>reconstruction and development of the country are the main reason of the
>growing recognition of Yugoslavia and its just struggle for freedom and
>sovereignty, Marjanovic said that was the reason why the greatest majority
of
>countries and all progressive countries of the world demand the lifting of
>illegal sanctions against Serbia, and those who still implement them are
aware
>they are meaningless.
>
> "Only different leaders of the so-called opposition parties
spread
>illusions that aid will come from those who bombed us," Marjanovic said and
>pointed out that "they, even without any shame, do not conceal they want to
>come to power with the help of power brokers and make direct threats of
civil
>war."
>
> "Everything they have done and are doing shows they are
traitors,
>mercenaries, murderers and criminals. That is why, their place is not with
us
>in a united defense front, reconstruction and development of the country.
In
>that great job we, together with the people, are doing our utmost and
achieve
>results visible to every citizen," Marjanovic said.
>
> JOVANOVIC: FORCES WHICH COMMITTED AGGRESSION STOKE TERRORISM
AND
>SEPARATISM
>
> REKOVAC, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Foreign Minister and
>republican MP Zivadin Jovanovic said in the central Serbian town of Rekovac
on
>Sunday that the world is increasingly clearly demonstrating an option for
>democratic relations and respect for the principles of equality,
sovereignty
>and territorial integrity, and non-interference in the internal affairs of
>Yugoslavia, regarding the issue of Kosovo and Metohija province.
>
> Jovanovic said it was becoming clear in the world that the
>international military and civilian presence in Kosovo and Metohija has
>severely damaged the renown of the United Nations, the Security Council, by
>working completely contrary to Resolution 1244, actually by systematically
>supporting ethnic Albanian separatism and terrorism.
>
> Europe, the European and world public, a large number of U.N.
>Security Council members, realize that such a stand by the civilian and
>security presence under U.N. auspices us unacceptable, and is not conducive
to
>peace and stability, but is a road which leads to destabilization,
Jovanovic
>said.
>
> "It is necessary finally to establish control on our state
border
>and that hundreds of thousands of those who entered our territory
illegally,
>with the permission of these international forces, leave our territory," he
>said.
>
> The world public cannot be deluded with stories about a census,
>stories about elections, even if local, which is an attempt to prevent them
>from seeing that the U.N. Charter is systematically violated on a daily
basis
>in Kosovo and Metohija. Such stories cannot cover up the fact that those
very
>same forces which carried out the aggression on our country, are continuing
>this aggression by stoking terrorism and separatism in Kosovo, by trying to
>destabilize Serbia, to destabilize Yugoslavia, with subversive activities,
>even by inciting political terrorism, Jovanovic said.
>
> BOZOVIC: KOSOVO AND METOHIJA CRADLE OF SERBS' BEING
>
> AMMAN, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Parliament Upper House
Speaker
>Srdja Bozovic has said that there can be no elections in Kosovo and
Metohija
>as long as 350,000 Serbs, Montenegrins and other non-Albanians do not
return
>to the Yugoslav republic of Serbia's southern province.
>
> In an exclusive interview to Jordan's mass-circulation daily
>Al-Arab al-Yawm, Bozovic, who attended the 103rd conference of the
>Interparliamentary Union (IPU) in Amman last week, said that Kosovo and
>Metohija was the cradle of the Serbian people's being.
>
> He said that Yugoslavia could not allow the United States to
form
>a Greater Albania, saying that there could be no doubt whatsoever that the
>province would remain an integral part of Yugoslavia.
>
> He said that Yugoslavia constituted the key factor of stability
in
>the Balkans. He said that the country was doing all within its power to
>preserve peace, saying that Belgrade's political commitments were based on
the
>responsibility for security in the Balkans and Europe.
>
> GEN.LAZAREVIC: ARMY IS INDIVISIBLE FROM PEOPLE
>
> ZAJECAR, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav 3rd Army commander Lt.-Gen.
>Vladimir Lazarevic said in the eastern Serbian town of Zajecar on Sunday
that
>he believed it would not be long before the state of Serbia would return to
>its territories in Kosovo and Metohija, since the world has already
realized
>the mistake of the NATO aggression on Yugoslavia.
>
> In a talk with leaders of the Zajecar district, he also said he
>hoped the U.N. Security Council would already in June admit the
incompetence
>of the UNMIK and other international forces in Kosovo, which have failed in
>one year to implement a single article of Resolution 1244, and whose
presence
>failed to prevent murders and expulsions of many more Serbs and other
>non-Albanians than before and during the NATO aggression.
>
> This would be an admission in practice that the U.S.-led
western
>policy toward Yugoslavia had been wrong, one that had openly supported the
>secession of Serbia's Kosovo and Metohija province, Gen. Lazarevic said.
This
>would also be a recognition of the right of all state organs to return to
>Kosovo and Metohija and provide protection to all those who wish to live in
>Serbia and Yugoslavia in equal conditions with all those who have lived
there
>for centuries, he said.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - RUSSIA
>
> MINISTER JOVANOVIC ARRIVED IN MOSCOW
>
> MOSCOW, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Foreign Minister Zivadin
>Jovanovic on Monday arrived in Moscow on a two-day visit to Russia at the
>invitation of his Russian counterpart Igor Ivanov.
>
> In a statement at Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport, Jovanovic said
he
>expected the visit further to promote and expand political dialogue and the
>traditionally friendly and close relations between Yugoslavia and Russia.
>
> Immediately on his arrival, Minister Jovanovic gave an
interview
>to foreign correspondents in Moscow in which he underscored that western
>countries are deceiving the world public about the situation in Kosovo and
>Metohija.
>
> There is chaos now in this southern Serbian province because of
>lack of respect for U.N. Security Council Resolution 1244 on Kosovo and
>Metohija, and unless something is urgently done, the international
community
>will bear full responsibility for the grave consequences, the Yugoslav
>minister said.
>
> Jovanovic will today visit the State Duma, where he will confer
>with its Speaker Gennady Seleznov.
>
> Jovanovic will also meet with the head of a Duma commission for
>helping Yugoslavia overcome the consequences of the NATO aggression, an MP
of
>the lower house of Russian parliament, Nikolai Ryzhkov.
>
> Talks between Jovanovic and his host Ivanov are scheduled for
>tomorrow.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - CHINA
>
> YUGOSLAV GOVERNMENT DELEGATION ENDED VISIT TO CHINA
>
> BEIJING, May 15 (Tanjug) - A Yugoslav government delegation,
led
>by Minister for International Cultural and Scientific Cooperation Cedomir
>Mirkovic, ended Monday its several-day visit to China expected to give a
new
>impetus to the successful development of the two countries' cultural as
well
>as overall cooperation.
>
> The visit resulted in the signing of a three-year programme of
>cultural and educational cooperation. Moreover, it marked the beginning of
the
>Days of Yugoslav Culture in China event.
>
> Consequently, Belgrade's Philharmonic Orchestra and Radmila
>Bakocevic and Jadranka Jovanovic, Yugoslavia's primadonnas of international
>repute, gave performances in China's capital Beijing and the cities of
>Shenyang and Dalian, in the country's northeastern province of Lianoning.
>
> Furthermore, an exhibition of 28 contemporary Yugoslav
paintings
>opened in Beijing during the delegation's visit.
>
> In meetings with ranking Chinese Culture Ministry officials at
the
>close of the visit, Mirkovic said that the visit had resulted in a series
of
>initiatives for the all-round promotion of cultural cooperation.
>
> The programme provides also for the exchange of the two
countries'
>artists. Moreover, the Days of Chinese Culture in Yugoslavia event is to be
>held next year.
>
> Mirkovic pointed to friendly ties and good overall
>Yugoslav-Chinese relations as well as outstanding mutual understanding
reached
>that would enable successful cooperation between the two countries.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - AUSTRALIA
>
> YUGOSLAV SECURITIES COMMISSION DELEGATION VISITED SIDNEY
>
> SIDNEY, May 15 (Tanjug) - A delegation of the Yugoslav
Securities
>Commission has arrived in Sidney, Australia, to attend the 25th annual
>conference of the international organisation of securities commissions.
>
> The delegation, led by Milos Jankovic, commission head, met in
>Canberra on Monday with Yugoslav Ambassador to Australia Dragan
Dragojlovic.
>
> Dragojlovic informed the delegation about prospects for
economic
>and financial cooperation between Yugoslavia and Australia, stressing the
need
>for the diversification of financial cooperation that is crucial to overall
>economic cooperation between the two countries.
>
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>
> BELGRADE, 15 May 2000
>
> ASSASSINATION OF VOJVODINA EXECUTIVE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
PEROSEVIC
>
> a.. -PRESIDENT MILOSEVIC'S WREATH ON PEROSEVIC'S BIER
> b.. -MATIC: PEROSEVIC'S ASSASSINATION AIMED AT
DESTABILIZING
>YUGOSLAVIA
> c.. -MONTENEGRIN PRIME MINISTER EXPRESSED CONDOLENCES
> FROM THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA
>
> a.. -HOUSING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT STARTS
> b.. -JOVANOVIC: FORCES WHICH COMMITTED AGGRESSION STOKE
>TERRORISM AND SEPARATISM
> c.. -BOZOVIC: KOSOVO AND METOHIJA CRADLE OF SERBS' BEING
> d.. -GEN.LAZAREVIC: ARMY IS INDIVISIBLE FROM PEOPLE
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - RUSSIA
>
> a.. -MINISTER JOVANOVIC ARRIVED IN MOSCOW
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - CHINA
>
> a.. -YUGOSLAV GOVERNMENT DELEGATION ENDED VISIT TO CHINA
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - AUSTRALIA
>
> a.. -YUGOSLAV SECURITIES COMMISSION DELEGATION VISITED
SIDNEY
> * * *
>
> ASSASSINATION OF VOJVODINA EXECUTIVE COUNCIL PRESIDENT
PEROSEVIC
>
> PRESIDENT MILOSEVIC'S WREATH ON PEROSEVIC'S BIER
>
> NOVI SAD, May 15 (Tanjug) - On the bier of the tragically
deceased
>President of the Vojvodina Executive Council Bosko Perosevic, in the
Vojvodina
>executive council building, around 14 hours was laid the wreath of the
>President of Yugoslavia, Slobodan Milosevic and of his wife Mira Markovic.
>
> In the honourary guard next to the bier of Bosko Perosevic
stood
>in turn during the morning members of Vojvodina executive council and his
>colleagues from the Socialist Party of Serbia.
>
> Outside the building of Vojvidina executive council thousands
of
>citizens of Novi Sad paid their last respects to the tragically deceased
Bosko
>Perosevic.
>
> MATIC: PEROSEVIC'S ASSASSINATION AIMED AT DESTABILIZING
YUGOSLAVIA
>
> BELGRADE, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Information Minister Goran
>Matic said on Sunday that the assassination of Vojvodina Executive Council
>President Bosko Perosevic is a terrorist act of murder of yet another
person
>from the list of undesired citizens of Yugoslavia drawn up by the European
>Union and United States.
>
> Speaking at a press conference for home and foreign reporters,
>Matic said this assassination was not an individual act by a maniac, but
>"organized murder which has a deep ideological and political background,
aimed
>at the further destabilization of Yugoslavia from outside, by the same
mentors
>who carried out the armed aggression and all forms of pressures on our
>country."
>
> Matic said the assassin, Milivoje Gutovic, 50, a sympathizer of
>the Serbian Renewal Movement (SPO) and an activist of the Otpor
("Resistance")
>organization, was found to possess a pamphlet on "Terrorism - a form of
>special warfare and who are the assassins of Aldo Moro" and other documents
>which indicate that this murder was planned.
>
> Asked by reporters whether new arrests could be expected in
>connection with Perosevic's assassination, Matic said an investigation was
>under way and added, quoting an official Interior Ministry statement, that
>persons who are believed to have ordered the killing and instigated this
>action were also being investigated and that Gutovic was not the only
person
>arrested so far.
>
> Yugoslavia is today "faced with the concept of an active
>destabilization through terrorism and crime which is infiltrated from
>Republika Srpska and partly from Montenegro, and whose mentors are the very
>ones who loudly speak about democracy and human rights," said Matic. The
wave
>of terrorism set off by part of the vasal political opposition in Serbia
with
>the creation of the Otpor ("Resistance") organization is extremely
reminiscent
>of the political terrorism of the Red Brigades in Italy in the late
seventies,
>he said.
>
> "We are today witness in our territory to absolutely the same
>practice which had been present in Italy at that time - murders of
prominent
>figures from political and business circles, with the tightening of
sanctions
>and all kinds of pressure in order to crush our just struggle," the federal
>information minister said.
>
> "We can openly say that the structures of aggression still
remain
>the same. NATO has not dismissed its spokesmen and its headquarters for
>exerting pressure on Yugoslavia. They are still working. Even though the
main
>champions of pressuring have not been dismissed, some of them, and those
who
>have been proven unsuccessful, have been sacked. However, economic pressure
is
>still strong, which is aimed at isolating the country and forcibly changing
>the socio-political system and the legally elected authorities. There is a
>tendency to create such a system in which society will be vulgarized, with
>stoked criminal activities, and the subsistence level brought on by the
>sanctions becoming the regulator of social relations in Yugoslav society,"
>Matic said.
>
> "Countries which lecture us on democracy and freedom are
>black-listing Yugoslav companies, citizens, although it is crystal clear
that
>the process and promotion of development and democracy in Yugoslavia is
more
>advanced not only than in so-called countries in transition, but even than
in
>the very countries which lecture us," Minister Matic said.
>
> MONTENEGRIN PRIME MINISTER EXPRESSED CONDOLENCES
>
> PODGORICA, May 15 (Tanjug) - Montenegrin Prime Minister Filip
>Vujanovic sent a telegram of condolences to the Vojvodina Executive Council
on
>Sunday, on the occasion of the tragic death of its President Bosko
Perosevic.
>
> Vujanovic asked that his expressions of sympathies and those of
>the Montenegrin government be conveyed also to the family of the deceased.
>
> FROM THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA
>
> HOUSING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT STARTS
>
> VRANJE, May 15 (Tanjug) - Serbian Premier Mirko Marjanovic on
>Monday, at a central ceremony in Vranje, marked the beginning of works on
the
>building of 100,000 apartments whose realization starts at the same time in
19
>centers in Serbia.
>
> Accelerated housing construction is an essential development
goal
>- every year 10,000 families will solve the most important problem in their
>life, and besides the full employment of construction workers, a chain of
>production will be started in industry, Marjanovic said at a large popular
>rally of tens of thousands of residents of the Pcinj and Jablanica
districts.
>
> "The realization of each of these projects will give a new
impetus
>to speedy economic growth and the development of the entire country, the
>creation of new jobs for young and educated people, a rise of standard and
>better life for citizens," Marjanovic said.
>
> Pointing out that heroic defense and major results in the
>reconstruction and development of the country are the main reason of the
>growing recognition of Yugoslavia and its just struggle for freedom and
>sovereignty, Marjanovic said that was the reason why the greatest majority
of
>countries and all progressive countries of the world demand the lifting of
>illegal sanctions against Serbia, and those who still implement them are
aware
>they are meaningless.
>
> "Only different leaders of the so-called opposition parties
spread
>illusions that aid will come from those who bombed us," Marjanovic said and
>pointed out that "they, even without any shame, do not conceal they want to
>come to power with the help of power brokers and make direct threats of
civil
>war."
>
> "Everything they have done and are doing shows they are
traitors,
>mercenaries, murderers and criminals. That is why, their place is not with
us
>in a united defense front, reconstruction and development of the country.
In
>that great job we, together with the people, are doing our utmost and
achieve
>results visible to every citizen," Marjanovic said.
>
> JOVANOVIC: FORCES WHICH COMMITTED AGGRESSION STOKE TERRORISM
AND
>SEPARATISM
>
> REKOVAC, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Foreign Minister and
>republican MP Zivadin Jovanovic said in the central Serbian town of Rekovac
on
>Sunday that the world is increasingly clearly demonstrating an option for
>democratic relations and respect for the principles of equality,
sovereignty
>and territorial integrity, and non-interference in the internal affairs of
>Yugoslavia, regarding the issue of Kosovo and Metohija province.
>
> Jovanovic said it was becoming clear in the world that the
>international military and civilian presence in Kosovo and Metohija has
>severely damaged the renown of the United Nations, the Security Council, by
>working completely contrary to Resolution 1244, actually by systematically
>supporting ethnic Albanian separatism and terrorism.
>
> Europe, the European and world public, a large number of U.N.
>Security Council members, realize that such a stand by the civilian and
>security presence under U.N. auspices us unacceptable, and is not conducive
to
>peace and stability, but is a road which leads to destabilization,
Jovanovic
>said.
>
> "It is necessary finally to establish control on our state
border
>and that hundreds of thousands of those who entered our territory
illegally,
>with the permission of these international forces, leave our territory," he
>said.
>
> The world public cannot be deluded with stories about a census,
>stories about elections, even if local, which is an attempt to prevent them
>from seeing that the U.N. Charter is systematically violated on a daily
basis
>in Kosovo and Metohija. Such stories cannot cover up the fact that those
very
>same forces which carried out the aggression on our country, are continuing
>this aggression by stoking terrorism and separatism in Kosovo, by trying to
>destabilize Serbia, to destabilize Yugoslavia, with subversive activities,
>even by inciting political terrorism, Jovanovic said.
>
> BOZOVIC: KOSOVO AND METOHIJA CRADLE OF SERBS' BEING
>
> AMMAN, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Parliament Upper House
Speaker
>Srdja Bozovic has said that there can be no elections in Kosovo and
Metohija
>as long as 350,000 Serbs, Montenegrins and other non-Albanians do not
return
>to the Yugoslav republic of Serbia's southern province.
>
> In an exclusive interview to Jordan's mass-circulation daily
>Al-Arab al-Yawm, Bozovic, who attended the 103rd conference of the
>Interparliamentary Union (IPU) in Amman last week, said that Kosovo and
>Metohija was the cradle of the Serbian people's being.
>
> He said that Yugoslavia could not allow the United States to
form
>a Greater Albania, saying that there could be no doubt whatsoever that the
>province would remain an integral part of Yugoslavia.
>
> He said that Yugoslavia constituted the key factor of stability
in
>the Balkans. He said that the country was doing all within its power to
>preserve peace, saying that Belgrade's political commitments were based on
the
>responsibility for security in the Balkans and Europe.
>
> GEN.LAZAREVIC: ARMY IS INDIVISIBLE FROM PEOPLE
>
> ZAJECAR, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav 3rd Army commander Lt.-Gen.
>Vladimir Lazarevic said in the eastern Serbian town of Zajecar on Sunday
that
>he believed it would not be long before the state of Serbia would return to
>its territories in Kosovo and Metohija, since the world has already
realized
>the mistake of the NATO aggression on Yugoslavia.
>
> In a talk with leaders of the Zajecar district, he also said he
>hoped the U.N. Security Council would already in June admit the
incompetence
>of the UNMIK and other international forces in Kosovo, which have failed in
>one year to implement a single article of Resolution 1244, and whose
presence
>failed to prevent murders and expulsions of many more Serbs and other
>non-Albanians than before and during the NATO aggression.
>
> This would be an admission in practice that the U.S.-led
western
>policy toward Yugoslavia had been wrong, one that had openly supported the
>secession of Serbia's Kosovo and Metohija province, Gen. Lazarevic said.
This
>would also be a recognition of the right of all state organs to return to
>Kosovo and Metohija and provide protection to all those who wish to live in
>Serbia and Yugoslavia in equal conditions with all those who have lived
there
>for centuries, he said.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - RUSSIA
>
> MINISTER JOVANOVIC ARRIVED IN MOSCOW
>
> MOSCOW, May 15 (Tanjug) - Yugoslav Foreign Minister Zivadin
>Jovanovic on Monday arrived in Moscow on a two-day visit to Russia at the
>invitation of his Russian counterpart Igor Ivanov.
>
> In a statement at Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport, Jovanovic said
he
>expected the visit further to promote and expand political dialogue and the
>traditionally friendly and close relations between Yugoslavia and Russia.
>
> Immediately on his arrival, Minister Jovanovic gave an
interview
>to foreign correspondents in Moscow in which he underscored that western
>countries are deceiving the world public about the situation in Kosovo and
>Metohija.
>
> There is chaos now in this southern Serbian province because of
>lack of respect for U.N. Security Council Resolution 1244 on Kosovo and
>Metohija, and unless something is urgently done, the international
community
>will bear full responsibility for the grave consequences, the Yugoslav
>minister said.
>
> Jovanovic will today visit the State Duma, where he will confer
>with its Speaker Gennady Seleznov.
>
> Jovanovic will also meet with the head of a Duma commission for
>helping Yugoslavia overcome the consequences of the NATO aggression, an MP
of
>the lower house of Russian parliament, Nikolai Ryzhkov.
>
> Talks between Jovanovic and his host Ivanov are scheduled for
>tomorrow.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - CHINA
>
> YUGOSLAV GOVERNMENT DELEGATION ENDED VISIT TO CHINA
>
> BEIJING, May 15 (Tanjug) - A Yugoslav government delegation,
led
>by Minister for International Cultural and Scientific Cooperation Cedomir
>Mirkovic, ended Monday its several-day visit to China expected to give a
new
>impetus to the successful development of the two countries' cultural as
well
>as overall cooperation.
>
> The visit resulted in the signing of a three-year programme of
>cultural and educational cooperation. Moreover, it marked the beginning of
the
>Days of Yugoslav Culture in China event.
>
> Consequently, Belgrade's Philharmonic Orchestra and Radmila
>Bakocevic and Jadranka Jovanovic, Yugoslavia's primadonnas of international
>repute, gave performances in China's capital Beijing and the cities of
>Shenyang and Dalian, in the country's northeastern province of Lianoning.
>
> Furthermore, an exhibition of 28 contemporary Yugoslav
paintings
>opened in Beijing during the delegation's visit.
>
> In meetings with ranking Chinese Culture Ministry officials at
the
>close of the visit, Mirkovic said that the visit had resulted in a series
of
>initiatives for the all-round promotion of cultural cooperation.
>
> The programme provides also for the exchange of the two
countries'
>artists. Moreover, the Days of Chinese Culture in Yugoslavia event is to be
>held next year.
>
> Mirkovic pointed to friendly ties and good overall
>Yugoslav-Chinese relations as well as outstanding mutual understanding
reached
>that would enable successful cooperation between the two countries.
>
> F.R.YUGOSLAVIA - AUSTRALIA
>
> YUGOSLAV SECURITIES COMMISSION DELEGATION VISITED SIDNEY
>
> SIDNEY, May 15 (Tanjug) - A delegation of the Yugoslav
Securities
>Commission has arrived in Sidney, Australia, to attend the 25th annual
>conference of the international organisation of securities commissions.
>
> The delegation, led by Milos Jankovic, commission head, met in
>Canberra on Monday with Yugoslav Ambassador to Australia Dragan
Dragojlovic.
>
> Dragojlovic informed the delegation about prospects for
economic
>and financial cooperation between Yugoslavia and Australia, stressing the
need
>for the diversification of financial cooperation that is crucial to overall
>economic cooperation between the two countries.
>
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