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Von Michel Chossudovsky
> http://www.jungewelt.de/2001/08-07/007.shtml
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WASHINGTON HINTER DEN TERRORISTISCHEN ANSCHL�GEN IN MAZEDONIEN
von Michel Chossudovsky [23. Juli 2001]
URL der englischen Originalversion:
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/choss/behind.htm
�bersetzung aus dem Englischen: Klaus von Raussendorff
Nachdruck und Verbreitung zu den am Ende des Textes genannten
Bedingungen erw�nscht !
- Anl. 1 -
DEUTSCHE UNSCHULD
Von Matthias K�ntzel
Aus Ossietzky - Zweiwochenschrift f�r Politik, Kultur, Wirtschaft
14/2001
- Anl. 2 -
KRIEG UND FRIEDEN IM BUNDESTAG
von Andreas Buro
Aus Ossietzky - Zweiwochenschrift f�r Politik, Kultur, Wirtschaft
14/2001
- Anl. 2 -
Z u d e n T e x t e n :
1. Michel Chossudovsky belegt aufgrund �ffentlich zug�nglicher Quellen
folgenden Sachverhalt: Die von den USA gesponsorten terroristischen
Anschl�ge ebenso wie der scheinheilige "Friedensplans" verfolgen die
Absicht, Mazedonien schlie�lich zu zerst�ckeln und das Land wie Bosnien
und Kosovo in ein NATO-Protektorat zu verwandeln. Die Operation
"Essential Harvest", angeblich zur Entwaffnung der albanischen Rebellen,
die von britischen Fallschirmj�gern geleitet werden soll, w�rde den
ersten Schritt zu einer milit�rischen Besetzung mazedonischen
Territoriums darstellen. NATO-Streitkr�fte sch�tzen nicht nur die
Rebellen in den Gebieten unter ihrer Kontrolle, MPRI-Berater unter
Vertrag mit dem Pentagon, helfen auch bei der Durchf�hrung "ethnischer
S�uberungen" in diesen Gebieten. In diesen funktionieren die
mazedonischen Staatseinrichtungen bereits nicht mehr.
Mit anderen Worten, die Gebiete unter UCK-Kontrolle - die an Kosovo
angrenzen - sind de facto unter der Jurisdiktion der NATO. Mehr noch, es
gibt Anzeichen, dass die UCK - mit NATO-Unterst�tzung - versuchen
k�nnte, eine einseitige Abtrennung des Kosovo von Jugoslawien
auszul�sen. Das w�rde nicht nur die politische Krise in Belgrad
versch�rfen, es w�rde auch die Frage des politischen Status der von der
UCK besetzten Territorien aufwerfen, aus denen die mazedonische
Bev�lkerung vertrieben wurde (vielfach in derselben Weise, in der die
Serben aus dem Kosovo vertrieben wurden). Bei diesem Vorhaben ist die
Absicht der NATO klar, sie besteht darin, Mazedonien als Land zu
zerst�ckeln und zu zerst�ren.
(Anl. 1)
2. Matthias K�ntzel untersucht die deutsche Unterst�tzung des
albanischen Terrorismus und Separatismus: Der stellvertretende
Vorsitzende der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion, Gernot Erler, �u�erte k�rzlich
in einem Radiointerview die Ansicht, in Anbetracht des ,,albanischen
Strebens nach Separation in Mazedonien und im Kosovo„ m�sse man
,,nach
der Zukunft der Grenzen in dieser Region (fragen), ob sie eigentlich f�r
uns unantastbar sind, oder ob man bereit w�re, diese zum gro�en Teil ja
willk�rlich gezogenen Grenzen in irgendeiner Weise, nat�rlich nach einem
entsprechenden politischen Proze�, zu ver�ndern.„
„In Prizren haben es die deutschen Soldaten den albanischen
K�mpfern der
Kosovo-Befreiungsarmee �berlassen, das in der Stadt geltende Recht zu
bestimmen, und damit die serbischen Familien ihrem Schicksal
�berlassen„, kritisierte der in Paris erscheinende Figaro. Die UCK
habe
erkl�rt, Prizren stehe vollst�ndig unter ihrer Kontrolle, best�tigte
auch die FAZ. „Selbst das geistliche Oberhaupt der Serben im
Kosovo,
Bischof Artemije, hatte vergeblich Sicherheitsgarantien vom deutschen
Kfor-Kontingent in Prizren erbeten.„ Die beinahe uneingeschr�nkte
Herrschaft der UCK �ber Prizren wurde niemals in Deutschland, wohl aber
von Stellen der Vereinten Nationen kritisiert – folgenlos.
Als Au�enminister Fischer Anfang April in Pristina mit dem ehemaligen
UCK-Chef (und heutigem TMK-Kommandeur) Agim Ceku konferierte, war stets
auch die Abtrennung des Kosovo von Jugoslawien und dessen Unabh�ngigkeit
mit im Gespr�ch. Im Prinzip scheint der deutsche Vizekanzler diesen
Absichten zugestimmt zu haben. Wie sein Adlatus Winfried Nachtwei,
Bundestagsabgeordneter der Gr�nen, in einem Reisebericht bekundet, habe
man „die kosovo-albanischen Politiker zu mehr Geduld und Vernunft
in
ihrem Unabh�ngigkeitsbestreben gedr�ngt.„
W�hrend man sich nach au�en mit allzu forschen
Unabh�ngigkeits-Postulaten nicht den Mund verbrennen will, wird
unterschwellig auf die Verschiebung der Grenzen und eine territoriale
Beantwortung der „albanischen Frage„ hingewirkt –
gest�tzt auf eine
�ffentlichkeit in Deutschland, der dieser provokante und eigensinnige
Kurs als pure Selbstverst�ndlichkeit erscheint. Je mehr die heutige
deutsche Albanienpolitik dem Auftreten Hitlerdeutschlands auf dem Balkan
�hnelt, desto mehr gilt die Gewi�heit, da� im Kosovo zwischen alter
Nazi-Politik und neuer deutscher Intervention nicht ein Spurenelement an
Kontinuit�t besteht, als Kernbestand der neudeutschen Identit�t.
(Anl. 2)
3. Andreas Buro untersucht, wie Rot-Gr�n die wahren Absichten der
deutschen Balkanpolitik vor der �ffentlichkeit zu verschleiern sucht:
In der Bundestagsdebatte, die der Regierungserkl�rung am 6. Juli folgte,
waren die Regierungsparteien bem�ht, die Bedingungen f�r den
Milit�reinsatz in Mazedonien so unscharf zu machen, da� in eine
Zustimmung des Bundestages vieles hineininterpretiert werden kann. So
wurde angedeutet, der Einsatz k�nne auch l�nger als 30 Tage dauern. Und
verd�chtig oft wurde betont, das Mandat m�sse einen
„robusten„ Einsatz
der Bundeswehr gestatten. Gemeint war damit, da� Kampfeins�tze nicht
ausgeschlossen werden d�rften. Wieso aber w�nscht die Regierung die
Lizenz f�r einen Kampfauftrag, wenn die Bundeswehr angeblich nur auf der
Grundlage einer Vereinbarung zwischen den Konfliktparteien Waffen
einsammeln soll?
Die wirklichen Probleme werden im Parlament gar nicht benannt. So zum
Beispiel die brisante Frage, welche Rolle die riesige Milit�rbasis
„Bondsteel Base„, die gr��te seit Vietnam, spielen soll,
welche die USA
in der N�he von Pristina bauen. Sie geh�rt zu einer Serie strategischer
Basen, die es den USA letztlich erm�glichen sollen, in jedem Teil der
Welt milit�risch einzugreifen. Bondsteel ist besonders geeignet f�r
Interventionen in dem Dreieck Mittlerer Osten-Kaukasus-Balkan. Soll
diese Basis an Serbien �bergehen, wenn das NATO-Protektorat endet und
Kosovo wieder politisch zu Serbien geh�ren wird, oder ist die Basis ein
eindeutiges Anzeichen daf�r, da� die US-Politik (und vielleicht auch die
der EU) die Abtrennung Kosovos von Serbien schon fest eingeplant hat?
Dann w�rde plausibel, warum die NATO-M�chte die UCK st�ndig gef�rdert
haben, warum britische und amerikanische Ausbilder in albanischen Lagern
UCK-K�mpfer trainieren, warum deren Waffen-, Geld- und Personalzufuhr
kaum behindert wird und warum die US- und Bundeswehrverb�nde, welche die
Grenzen zu Mazedonien kontrollieren sollen, den Grenz�bertritt
albanischer Freisch�rler nicht wirksam unterbinden.
(Anl. 3)
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UCK-Bock will G�rtner werden
von Rainer Rupp, Sbg. den 3.8.01
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Ermahnung an mazedonischen Staatspr�sident -
Eid auf Mazedonien geschworen und nicht auf die NATO
von Rainer Rupp, Sbg. den 25.7.01
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Mazedonische Souver�nit�t? F�r die NATO kein Problem
von Rainer Rupp, 23 Jul 2001
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Bericht aus Den Haag
Wolfgang M. (Internationale Jugoslawien Solidarit�t)
Hamburg,den 2.07.2001
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> http://www.jungewelt.de/2001/08-07/007.shtml
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WASHINGTON HINTER DEN TERRORISTISCHEN ANSCHL�GEN IN MAZEDONIEN
von Michel Chossudovsky [23. Juli 2001]
URL der englischen Originalversion:
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/choss/behind.htm
�bersetzung aus dem Englischen: Klaus von Raussendorff
Nachdruck und Verbreitung zu den am Ende des Textes genannten
Bedingungen erw�nscht !
- Anl. 1 -
DEUTSCHE UNSCHULD
Von Matthias K�ntzel
Aus Ossietzky - Zweiwochenschrift f�r Politik, Kultur, Wirtschaft
14/2001
- Anl. 2 -
KRIEG UND FRIEDEN IM BUNDESTAG
von Andreas Buro
Aus Ossietzky - Zweiwochenschrift f�r Politik, Kultur, Wirtschaft
14/2001
- Anl. 2 -
Z u d e n T e x t e n :
1. Michel Chossudovsky belegt aufgrund �ffentlich zug�nglicher Quellen
folgenden Sachverhalt: Die von den USA gesponsorten terroristischen
Anschl�ge ebenso wie der scheinheilige "Friedensplans" verfolgen die
Absicht, Mazedonien schlie�lich zu zerst�ckeln und das Land wie Bosnien
und Kosovo in ein NATO-Protektorat zu verwandeln. Die Operation
"Essential Harvest", angeblich zur Entwaffnung der albanischen Rebellen,
die von britischen Fallschirmj�gern geleitet werden soll, w�rde den
ersten Schritt zu einer milit�rischen Besetzung mazedonischen
Territoriums darstellen. NATO-Streitkr�fte sch�tzen nicht nur die
Rebellen in den Gebieten unter ihrer Kontrolle, MPRI-Berater unter
Vertrag mit dem Pentagon, helfen auch bei der Durchf�hrung "ethnischer
S�uberungen" in diesen Gebieten. In diesen funktionieren die
mazedonischen Staatseinrichtungen bereits nicht mehr.
Mit anderen Worten, die Gebiete unter UCK-Kontrolle - die an Kosovo
angrenzen - sind de facto unter der Jurisdiktion der NATO. Mehr noch, es
gibt Anzeichen, dass die UCK - mit NATO-Unterst�tzung - versuchen
k�nnte, eine einseitige Abtrennung des Kosovo von Jugoslawien
auszul�sen. Das w�rde nicht nur die politische Krise in Belgrad
versch�rfen, es w�rde auch die Frage des politischen Status der von der
UCK besetzten Territorien aufwerfen, aus denen die mazedonische
Bev�lkerung vertrieben wurde (vielfach in derselben Weise, in der die
Serben aus dem Kosovo vertrieben wurden). Bei diesem Vorhaben ist die
Absicht der NATO klar, sie besteht darin, Mazedonien als Land zu
zerst�ckeln und zu zerst�ren.
(Anl. 1)
2. Matthias K�ntzel untersucht die deutsche Unterst�tzung des
albanischen Terrorismus und Separatismus: Der stellvertretende
Vorsitzende der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion, Gernot Erler, �u�erte k�rzlich
in einem Radiointerview die Ansicht, in Anbetracht des ,,albanischen
Strebens nach Separation in Mazedonien und im Kosovo„ m�sse man
,,nach
der Zukunft der Grenzen in dieser Region (fragen), ob sie eigentlich f�r
uns unantastbar sind, oder ob man bereit w�re, diese zum gro�en Teil ja
willk�rlich gezogenen Grenzen in irgendeiner Weise, nat�rlich nach einem
entsprechenden politischen Proze�, zu ver�ndern.„
„In Prizren haben es die deutschen Soldaten den albanischen
K�mpfern der
Kosovo-Befreiungsarmee �berlassen, das in der Stadt geltende Recht zu
bestimmen, und damit die serbischen Familien ihrem Schicksal
�berlassen„, kritisierte der in Paris erscheinende Figaro. Die UCK
habe
erkl�rt, Prizren stehe vollst�ndig unter ihrer Kontrolle, best�tigte
auch die FAZ. „Selbst das geistliche Oberhaupt der Serben im
Kosovo,
Bischof Artemije, hatte vergeblich Sicherheitsgarantien vom deutschen
Kfor-Kontingent in Prizren erbeten.„ Die beinahe uneingeschr�nkte
Herrschaft der UCK �ber Prizren wurde niemals in Deutschland, wohl aber
von Stellen der Vereinten Nationen kritisiert – folgenlos.
Als Au�enminister Fischer Anfang April in Pristina mit dem ehemaligen
UCK-Chef (und heutigem TMK-Kommandeur) Agim Ceku konferierte, war stets
auch die Abtrennung des Kosovo von Jugoslawien und dessen Unabh�ngigkeit
mit im Gespr�ch. Im Prinzip scheint der deutsche Vizekanzler diesen
Absichten zugestimmt zu haben. Wie sein Adlatus Winfried Nachtwei,
Bundestagsabgeordneter der Gr�nen, in einem Reisebericht bekundet, habe
man „die kosovo-albanischen Politiker zu mehr Geduld und Vernunft
in
ihrem Unabh�ngigkeitsbestreben gedr�ngt.„
W�hrend man sich nach au�en mit allzu forschen
Unabh�ngigkeits-Postulaten nicht den Mund verbrennen will, wird
unterschwellig auf die Verschiebung der Grenzen und eine territoriale
Beantwortung der „albanischen Frage„ hingewirkt –
gest�tzt auf eine
�ffentlichkeit in Deutschland, der dieser provokante und eigensinnige
Kurs als pure Selbstverst�ndlichkeit erscheint. Je mehr die heutige
deutsche Albanienpolitik dem Auftreten Hitlerdeutschlands auf dem Balkan
�hnelt, desto mehr gilt die Gewi�heit, da� im Kosovo zwischen alter
Nazi-Politik und neuer deutscher Intervention nicht ein Spurenelement an
Kontinuit�t besteht, als Kernbestand der neudeutschen Identit�t.
(Anl. 2)
3. Andreas Buro untersucht, wie Rot-Gr�n die wahren Absichten der
deutschen Balkanpolitik vor der �ffentlichkeit zu verschleiern sucht:
In der Bundestagsdebatte, die der Regierungserkl�rung am 6. Juli folgte,
waren die Regierungsparteien bem�ht, die Bedingungen f�r den
Milit�reinsatz in Mazedonien so unscharf zu machen, da� in eine
Zustimmung des Bundestages vieles hineininterpretiert werden kann. So
wurde angedeutet, der Einsatz k�nne auch l�nger als 30 Tage dauern. Und
verd�chtig oft wurde betont, das Mandat m�sse einen
„robusten„ Einsatz
der Bundeswehr gestatten. Gemeint war damit, da� Kampfeins�tze nicht
ausgeschlossen werden d�rften. Wieso aber w�nscht die Regierung die
Lizenz f�r einen Kampfauftrag, wenn die Bundeswehr angeblich nur auf der
Grundlage einer Vereinbarung zwischen den Konfliktparteien Waffen
einsammeln soll?
Die wirklichen Probleme werden im Parlament gar nicht benannt. So zum
Beispiel die brisante Frage, welche Rolle die riesige Milit�rbasis
„Bondsteel Base„, die gr��te seit Vietnam, spielen soll,
welche die USA
in der N�he von Pristina bauen. Sie geh�rt zu einer Serie strategischer
Basen, die es den USA letztlich erm�glichen sollen, in jedem Teil der
Welt milit�risch einzugreifen. Bondsteel ist besonders geeignet f�r
Interventionen in dem Dreieck Mittlerer Osten-Kaukasus-Balkan. Soll
diese Basis an Serbien �bergehen, wenn das NATO-Protektorat endet und
Kosovo wieder politisch zu Serbien geh�ren wird, oder ist die Basis ein
eindeutiges Anzeichen daf�r, da� die US-Politik (und vielleicht auch die
der EU) die Abtrennung Kosovos von Serbien schon fest eingeplant hat?
Dann w�rde plausibel, warum die NATO-M�chte die UCK st�ndig gef�rdert
haben, warum britische und amerikanische Ausbilder in albanischen Lagern
UCK-K�mpfer trainieren, warum deren Waffen-, Geld- und Personalzufuhr
kaum behindert wird und warum die US- und Bundeswehrverb�nde, welche die
Grenzen zu Mazedonien kontrollieren sollen, den Grenz�bertritt
albanischer Freisch�rler nicht wirksam unterbinden.
(Anl. 3)
Die Zeitschrift Ossietzky, im Jahresabo f�r 100,- DM (Ausland 160,-DM)
f�r 25 Hefte ist zu bestellen bei Interdruck Berger GmbH,
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von Rainer Rupp, Sbg. den 3.8.01
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Ermahnung an mazedonischen Staatspr�sident -
Eid auf Mazedonien geschworen und nicht auf die NATO
von Rainer Rupp, Sbg. den 25.7.01
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Mazedonische Souver�nit�t? F�r die NATO kein Problem
von Rainer Rupp, 23 Jul 2001
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Bericht aus Den Haag
Wolfgang M. (Internationale Jugoslawien Solidarit�t)
Hamburg,den 2.07.2001
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"BABO", THE NEWEST VICTIM OF A POLITICAL PERSECUTION
On September 20th, 1993, the Muslims of the Bihac region in Bosnia,
guided by Fikret Abdic, proclaimed the independence from the
Sarajevo government. Abdic, the Agrokomerc-cooperative's main
businessman, had entered into politics in 1991, when he obtained more
votes, at the presidential elections in BiH, than the reactionary
integralist Alija Izetbegovic. Nevertheless, Abdic had to renounce
from the presidential seat, leaving it to Izetbegovic, who later
acted as the main responsible in the bloody explosion
of the inter-bosnian conflict. The real causes of Abdic's retirement
were never clear, better to say, the pressions were left undescribed.
Through choosing the independence of the Bihac region, Abdic and tenths
thousands of Muslims and simple "Yugoslavs" from Bosnia choosed the
path of collaboration and pacific joint living with local Croats
and Serbs. For this fact, they would never be helped by the
West, which, on the contrary, isolated them, and did not lift a
finger agains a possible integralist Muslim's revenge. On August 19th,
1994, the V Corp of the Bosnian-muslim Army attacked the independent
Bihac, causing many deaths, and the escape of tenths thousands of
people.
The western media almost did not deal with Abdic's people very much,
and sometimes arrived to the point of defining them as "traitors".
They could not show interest, since a sincere interrogation and
information would have revealed the true nature of the "democracy
and pluralism" of the Bosnian state governed by SDA's
ultranationalists.
Fikret Abdic, called "Babo", nowadays is being prosecuted in a tribunal
in Karlovac, Croatia. Together with Milosevic, he may be considered
as another victim of political persecution by the West. We express
our solidarity to "Babo" and to his sympahisers, and remember with
nostalgy the multinational Bosnia-Herzegovina, inspired on the
values of Brotherhood and Unity. We denounce the western strategy
of punishing, for the tragedy of Bosnia, just and alone those people
who can hardly be considered responsible for the destruction
of their own homeland.
Coordinamento Romano per la Jugoslavia", 20/7/2001
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"BABO", THE NEWEST VICTIM OF A POLITICAL PERSECUTION
On September 20th, 1993, the Muslims of the Bihac region in Bosnia,
guided by Fikret Abdic, proclaimed the independence from the
Sarajevo government. Abdic, the Agrokomerc-cooperative's main
businessman, had entered into politics in 1991, when he obtained more
votes, at the presidential elections in BiH, than the reactionary
integralist Alija Izetbegovic. Nevertheless, Abdic had to renounce
from the presidential seat, leaving it to Izetbegovic, who later
acted as the main responsible in the bloody explosion
of the inter-bosnian conflict. The real causes of Abdic's retirement
were never clear, better to say, the pressions were left undescribed.
Through choosing the independence of the Bihac region, Abdic and tenths
thousands of Muslims and simple "Yugoslavs" from Bosnia choosed the
path of collaboration and pacific joint living with local Croats
and Serbs. For this fact, they would never be helped by the
West, which, on the contrary, isolated them, and did not lift a
finger agains a possible integralist Muslim's revenge. On August 19th,
1994, the V Corp of the Bosnian-muslim Army attacked the independent
Bihac, causing many deaths, and the escape of tenths thousands of
people.
The western media almost did not deal with Abdic's people very much,
and sometimes arrived to the point of defining them as "traitors".
They could not show interest, since a sincere interrogation and
information would have revealed the true nature of the "democracy
and pluralism" of the Bosnian state governed by SDA's
ultranationalists.
Fikret Abdic, called "Babo", nowadays is being prosecuted in a tribunal
in Karlovac, Croatia. Together with Milosevic, he may be considered
as another victim of political persecution by the West. We express
our solidarity to "Babo" and to his sympahisers, and remember with
nostalgy the multinational Bosnia-Herzegovina, inspired on the
values of Brotherhood and Unity. We denounce the western strategy
of punishing, for the tragedy of Bosnia, just and alone those people
who can hardly be considered responsible for the destruction
of their own homeland.
Coordinamento Romano per la Jugoslavia", 20/7/2001
Based on a partial translation circulated on the list:
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> http://www.lernesto.it/
L'ERNESTO - rivista comunista
Anno IX numero 3 - maggio/giugno 2001
______________________
Editoriale
Dopo il voto del 13 maggio:
Le prospettive di Rifondazione Comunista e della sinistra italiana
G. Pegolo
Politica / Interventi
Sulla crisi dei Democratici di Sinistra
L. Masella
Riaprire il confronto a sinistra
G. Chiarante
Movimenti
Globalizzazione, competizione globale e movimenti
S. Cararo
Lavoro
Fiat: decisivo � un nuovo protagonismo dei lavoratori
M. Provera
Il sindacalismo di base e i marittimi della Tirrenia
I. De Rosa, M. Peluso
Sciopero generale
C. Sabattini
Internazionale
Jugoslavia: soluzione finale
F. Grimaldi
Repubblica Democratica del Congo
S. Ricaldone
L'Afghanistan e la cattiva coscienza
A. Leoni
Indonesia: tentativi oscuri di destabilizzazione
E. Polito
Internazionale / Congressi
Sul 22� Congresso del PCG
P. Theuret
Dal Documento del 22� Congresso del Partito Comunista Giapponese
Sul 16� Congresso del KKE
F. Giannini
Dal Documento del 16� Congresso del Partito Comunista Greco
Imperialismo / mondializzazione
Globalizzazione: fatti, essenza, cultura
N. Bindiukow
Memoria
Nel decennale della morte di Alessandro Vaia
J. Bagnoli
Alla scuola leninista di Mosca
A. Vaia
Cultura
Il vecchio e il nuovo nel cinema italiano
R. Alemanno
"La mia generazione ha perso"
G. Lucini
__________________________________
SPECIALE:
SOCIALISMO REALIZZATO
Sul Socialismo realizzato
F. Giannini
La fine del Socialismo reale in Europa
e gli anni della trasformazione
H. Modrow
Trasformazioni economiche e sociali e negazione del Socialismo
A. Agosti
Gramsci, il Socialismo e le storie di mostri
D. Losurdo
Dopo la NEP la modernizzazione socialista
L. Vasapollo
Paesi socialisti: un'analisi non subordinata al revisionismo storico
L. Pestalozza
Cercare ancora
G. Prestipino
Un bilancio storico e teorico del comunismo storico novecentesco
C. Preve
Crisi del comunismo del novecento e delle odierne societ� neoliberiste
R. Luperini
Tre o quattro cose che credo di sapere sul comunismo
G. U. Rescigno
Quel primato dell'industria pesante
G. Gattei
Il partito nell'Unione Sovietica
S. Tin�
Esperienza della Rivoluzione russa:
n� liquidazionismi n� dogmatismi
P. P. Poggio
Rivendicazione del passato e sua critica radicale
per un nuovo progetto comunista
M. Vegetti
L'Unione Sovietica e Alcide De Gasperi
L. Canfora
Sullo Stalinismo
P. Togliatti
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Anno IX numero 3 - maggio/giugno 2001
______________________
Editoriale
Dopo il voto del 13 maggio:
Le prospettive di Rifondazione Comunista e della sinistra italiana
G. Pegolo
Politica / Interventi
Sulla crisi dei Democratici di Sinistra
L. Masella
Riaprire il confronto a sinistra
G. Chiarante
Movimenti
Globalizzazione, competizione globale e movimenti
S. Cararo
Lavoro
Fiat: decisivo � un nuovo protagonismo dei lavoratori
M. Provera
Il sindacalismo di base e i marittimi della Tirrenia
I. De Rosa, M. Peluso
Sciopero generale
C. Sabattini
Internazionale
Jugoslavia: soluzione finale
F. Grimaldi
Repubblica Democratica del Congo
S. Ricaldone
L'Afghanistan e la cattiva coscienza
A. Leoni
Indonesia: tentativi oscuri di destabilizzazione
E. Polito
Internazionale / Congressi
Sul 22� Congresso del PCG
P. Theuret
Dal Documento del 22� Congresso del Partito Comunista Giapponese
Sul 16� Congresso del KKE
F. Giannini
Dal Documento del 16� Congresso del Partito Comunista Greco
Imperialismo / mondializzazione
Globalizzazione: fatti, essenza, cultura
N. Bindiukow
Memoria
Nel decennale della morte di Alessandro Vaia
J. Bagnoli
Alla scuola leninista di Mosca
A. Vaia
Cultura
Il vecchio e il nuovo nel cinema italiano
R. Alemanno
"La mia generazione ha perso"
G. Lucini
__________________________________
SPECIALE:
SOCIALISMO REALIZZATO
Sul Socialismo realizzato
F. Giannini
La fine del Socialismo reale in Europa
e gli anni della trasformazione
H. Modrow
Trasformazioni economiche e sociali e negazione del Socialismo
A. Agosti
Gramsci, il Socialismo e le storie di mostri
D. Losurdo
Dopo la NEP la modernizzazione socialista
L. Vasapollo
Paesi socialisti: un'analisi non subordinata al revisionismo storico
L. Pestalozza
Cercare ancora
G. Prestipino
Un bilancio storico e teorico del comunismo storico novecentesco
C. Preve
Crisi del comunismo del novecento e delle odierne societ� neoliberiste
R. Luperini
Tre o quattro cose che credo di sapere sul comunismo
G. U. Rescigno
Quel primato dell'industria pesante
G. Gattei
Il partito nell'Unione Sovietica
S. Tin�
Esperienza della Rivoluzione russa:
n� liquidazionismi n� dogmatismi
P. P. Poggio
Rivendicazione del passato e sua critica radicale
per un nuovo progetto comunista
M. Vegetti
L'Unione Sovietica e Alcide De Gasperi
L. Canfora
Sullo Stalinismo
P. Togliatti
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SI NOTI L'ATTRIBUZIONE: "MASCHILISTA"
Riferito a Milosevic:
<<...Culturalmente e socialmente di destra
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dittatoriale ecc.) utilizza un pacchetto
propagandistico "antimperialista" alla Mussolini
o alla Peron: con noi compagni, che ci azzecca?>>
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Riferito a Milosevic:
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dittatoriale ecc.) utilizza un pacchetto
propagandistico "antimperialista" alla Mussolini
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Da "Catena di Sanlibero 82", di
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9 luglio 2001
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> http://www.pasti.org/indice20.htm
Jugoslavia: la guerra continua
* Sequestro Milosevic:
le responsabilit� della sinistra imperialista
> http://www.pasti.org/sinimpe2.htm
* "Difficile pensare a una vergogna maggiore",
intervista ad Aldo Bernardini di ritorno da Belgrado
> http://www.pasti.org/vergogna.htm
* Il Comitato Internazionale per la Difesa di Milosevic,
intervista a Fulvio Grimaldi di ritorno da Belgrado
> http://www.pasti.org/icdsm.htm
* Milano: festa di Liberazione:
il Tribunale Clark per Milosevic, di Marco Sacchi
> http://www.pasti.org/milano.htm
* Il sequestro di Milosevic suscita sdegno e condanna
in tutto il mondo
> http://www.pasti.org/sdegno.htm
* La Jugoslavia resiste: le manifestazioni di Belgrado
contro il sequestro
> http://www.pasti.org/resiste.htm
* La NATO in Jugoslavia: dalla guerra al colpo di stato,
opuscolo della collana "per la critica del'ideologia borghese",
diretta da Domenico Losurdo
> http://www.pasti.org/natoinju.htm
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Jugoslavia: la guerra continua
* Sequestro Milosevic:
le responsabilit� della sinistra imperialista
> http://www.pasti.org/sinimpe2.htm
* "Difficile pensare a una vergogna maggiore",
intervista ad Aldo Bernardini di ritorno da Belgrado
> http://www.pasti.org/vergogna.htm
* Il Comitato Internazionale per la Difesa di Milosevic,
intervista a Fulvio Grimaldi di ritorno da Belgrado
> http://www.pasti.org/icdsm.htm
* Milano: festa di Liberazione:
il Tribunale Clark per Milosevic, di Marco Sacchi
> http://www.pasti.org/milano.htm
* Il sequestro di Milosevic suscita sdegno e condanna
in tutto il mondo
> http://www.pasti.org/sdegno.htm
* La Jugoslavia resiste: le manifestazioni di Belgrado
contro il sequestro
> http://www.pasti.org/resiste.htm
* La NATO in Jugoslavia: dalla guerra al colpo di stato,
opuscolo della collana "per la critica del'ideologia borghese",
diretta da Domenico Losurdo
> http://www.pasti.org/natoinju.htm
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FINALMENTE ANCHE IN BOSNIA "IL GRANDE FRATELLO"
La trasmissione televisiva piu' geniale ed interessante di questi anni,
gia' popolare in decine di paesi occidentali, sara' esportata finalmente
anche in Bosnia-Erzegovina. Lutti e tragedie della guerra fratricida e
di spartizione imperialista hanno evidentemente sortito il loro effetto:
anche in Bosnia vincono i profondi valori e la raffinata cultura del
sistema massmediatico occidentale.
"Il Grande Fratello" si basa sulla ripresa diretta e continuata della
vita quotidiana di alcune persone di modesta condizione sociale e scarsa
cultura, recluse in un piccolo ambiente per alcune settimane. Dopo
questo periodo di squallido voyerismo/esibizionismo della propria
nullita', viene dichiarato vincitore chi e' riuscito a dimostrarsi tanto
povero di spirito da non esplodere e non scappare. "Il Grande Fratello"
mira a propagandare la positivita' della vita contemporanea, condotta
senza interessi ne' speranze sotto il vigile, continuo controllo
dell'occhio della cinepresa, che rappresenta in maniera emblematica
Echelon e tutti gli altri sistemi di registrazione/spionaggio della vita
personale, dal Bancomat alla tessera elettronica del bus.
(Italo Slavo)
'BIG BROTHER' GOES TO BOSNIA
Only one thing marred TV viewers' enjoyment of the Bosnian version of
'Big Brother' - nobody took their clothes off.
By Ozren Kebo in Sarajevo
A Bosnian version of the 'Big Brother' television show has riveted
audiences and for once driven ethnic and political prejudice out of
peoples' minds.
The main complaint was an absence of those shower scenes which so roused
such attention in Britain.
It was Bosnia's first 'reality show' and viewers, accustomed to a diet
of sterner TV fare, lapped it up eagerly. The producers sought to show
that Sarajevans want to catch up with Western ways and enjoy themselves
in the process.
None of the five young participants - Mima, from central Bosnian town of
Travnik, Jana from the Slovenian capital Ljubljana, Lav from the
Croatian capital Zagreb, and Slaven and Aleksandra from Sarajevo -
engaged in anything like erotic behaviour.
But their activities in a rented attic were discussed breathlessly all
over the country. The audience divided into two clear camps. Older
people mostly hated it. Younger viewers loved it. Just about nobody
seemed to be indifferent.
The 'Big Brother' participants remained under the TV spotlight for 60
hours.
Their adventure was wound up recently with typically loud Sarajevan
party.
It was so noisy that neighbours called the police. One young officer
turned up but the partygoers thought he was a spoof policeman sent along
by the producers. They ripped off his hat, seized his club and pushed
him into the middle of the dancing crowd.
The officer took it all in good part and joined in the fun. People
afterwards wondered what might have happened if the assignment had
fallen to an older, less good natured cop. 'Big Brother' might have
ended on a less happy note.
The event drew huge interest. There were more then 90,000 visits to the
website that broadcast the show simultaneously as it went out on the
independent OBN television station.
Hundreds of messages were recorded on the Internet, most of them
commenting on the appearance of the participants. "The Slovenian girl
has the best breasts" or "Mima is the cutest" were typical samples.
But occasionally politics and ethnic hatreds did creep in. "Slaven,
Aleksandra, all the Serbs are with you, kill the Ustashas (derogatory
term for Croats) while they are sleeping," read one message.
Another said, "Hey people, did you notice that the Muslims sit only on
the green (colour of many Islamic flags) sofa, and the others on the
white one?" There was some suspicion these messages were
tongue-in-cheek.
Most of the attention focused not on nationalities but on the refusal of
participants to display themselves naked. Six months ago, a girl from
Zagreb, Andrea, had a shower in front of the cameras during a similar
show in Croatia. She won the hearts of Croatians but later lost her job
as a salesperson.
On the morning after the Sarajevo show ended, the five performers found
they had become stars. When they went into the city for breakfast, they
were mobbed by viewers. Almost everyone in the crowd seemed to know who
they were.
The marketing agency Fabrika (Factory), which helped organise the show,
was deluged with applications from young people seeking a part in the
next 'Big Brother'. So far no follow-up programme has been planned.
Weeks after it ended, the show remained a hot topic of conversation.
Most older people still like to talk about the beautifully decorated
attic where the show was staged. They criticised the "futile life which
modern youngsters lead".
One elderly women complained on a radio talk show that "three of them
turned their back to the camera and chatted over the Internet, while two
others just played video games. They spent 90 per cent of their time
like that.
"There was no intelligent discussion, no joke, not even one mature or
interesting remark. It seemed that the five of them hadn't read more
than 10 books in their lives."
Younger people had no such complaints. They talked approvingly about the
choice of music, the clothes and the tattoos. Haris Pasovic, a
well-known movie director from Sarajevo, said he hated the reality show
concept which he sees as yet another attempt to make TV the most
important element in people's lives. However, even Pasovic took comfort
from the fact that Bosnia is, at least, following world trends.
Ozren Kebo is a commentator for the Sarajevo weekly Slobodna Bosna.
(Source:
IWPR'S BALKAN CRISIS REPORT, NO. 268, August 3, 2001
http://www.iwpr.net)
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anche in Bosnia vincono i profondi valori e la raffinata cultura del
sistema massmediatico occidentale.
"Il Grande Fratello" si basa sulla ripresa diretta e continuata della
vita quotidiana di alcune persone di modesta condizione sociale e scarsa
cultura, recluse in un piccolo ambiente per alcune settimane. Dopo
questo periodo di squallido voyerismo/esibizionismo della propria
nullita', viene dichiarato vincitore chi e' riuscito a dimostrarsi tanto
povero di spirito da non esplodere e non scappare. "Il Grande Fratello"
mira a propagandare la positivita' della vita contemporanea, condotta
senza interessi ne' speranze sotto il vigile, continuo controllo
dell'occhio della cinepresa, che rappresenta in maniera emblematica
Echelon e tutti gli altri sistemi di registrazione/spionaggio della vita
personale, dal Bancomat alla tessera elettronica del bus.
(Italo Slavo)
'BIG BROTHER' GOES TO BOSNIA
Only one thing marred TV viewers' enjoyment of the Bosnian version of
'Big Brother' - nobody took their clothes off.
By Ozren Kebo in Sarajevo
A Bosnian version of the 'Big Brother' television show has riveted
audiences and for once driven ethnic and political prejudice out of
peoples' minds.
The main complaint was an absence of those shower scenes which so roused
such attention in Britain.
It was Bosnia's first 'reality show' and viewers, accustomed to a diet
of sterner TV fare, lapped it up eagerly. The producers sought to show
that Sarajevans want to catch up with Western ways and enjoy themselves
in the process.
None of the five young participants - Mima, from central Bosnian town of
Travnik, Jana from the Slovenian capital Ljubljana, Lav from the
Croatian capital Zagreb, and Slaven and Aleksandra from Sarajevo -
engaged in anything like erotic behaviour.
But their activities in a rented attic were discussed breathlessly all
over the country. The audience divided into two clear camps. Older
people mostly hated it. Younger viewers loved it. Just about nobody
seemed to be indifferent.
The 'Big Brother' participants remained under the TV spotlight for 60
hours.
Their adventure was wound up recently with typically loud Sarajevan
party.
It was so noisy that neighbours called the police. One young officer
turned up but the partygoers thought he was a spoof policeman sent along
by the producers. They ripped off his hat, seized his club and pushed
him into the middle of the dancing crowd.
The officer took it all in good part and joined in the fun. People
afterwards wondered what might have happened if the assignment had
fallen to an older, less good natured cop. 'Big Brother' might have
ended on a less happy note.
The event drew huge interest. There were more then 90,000 visits to the
website that broadcast the show simultaneously as it went out on the
independent OBN television station.
Hundreds of messages were recorded on the Internet, most of them
commenting on the appearance of the participants. "The Slovenian girl
has the best breasts" or "Mima is the cutest" were typical samples.
But occasionally politics and ethnic hatreds did creep in. "Slaven,
Aleksandra, all the Serbs are with you, kill the Ustashas (derogatory
term for Croats) while they are sleeping," read one message.
Another said, "Hey people, did you notice that the Muslims sit only on
the green (colour of many Islamic flags) sofa, and the others on the
white one?" There was some suspicion these messages were
tongue-in-cheek.
Most of the attention focused not on nationalities but on the refusal of
participants to display themselves naked. Six months ago, a girl from
Zagreb, Andrea, had a shower in front of the cameras during a similar
show in Croatia. She won the hearts of Croatians but later lost her job
as a salesperson.
On the morning after the Sarajevo show ended, the five performers found
they had become stars. When they went into the city for breakfast, they
were mobbed by viewers. Almost everyone in the crowd seemed to know who
they were.
The marketing agency Fabrika (Factory), which helped organise the show,
was deluged with applications from young people seeking a part in the
next 'Big Brother'. So far no follow-up programme has been planned.
Weeks after it ended, the show remained a hot topic of conversation.
Most older people still like to talk about the beautifully decorated
attic where the show was staged. They criticised the "futile life which
modern youngsters lead".
One elderly women complained on a radio talk show that "three of them
turned their back to the camera and chatted over the Internet, while two
others just played video games. They spent 90 per cent of their time
like that.
"There was no intelligent discussion, no joke, not even one mature or
interesting remark. It seemed that the five of them hadn't read more
than 10 books in their lives."
Younger people had no such complaints. They talked approvingly about the
choice of music, the clothes and the tattoos. Haris Pasovic, a
well-known movie director from Sarajevo, said he hated the reality show
concept which he sees as yet another attempt to make TV the most
important element in people's lives. However, even Pasovic took comfort
from the fact that Bosnia is, at least, following world trends.
Ozren Kebo is a commentator for the Sarajevo weekly Slobodna Bosna.
(Source:
IWPR'S BALKAN CRISIS REPORT, NO. 268, August 3, 2001
http://www.iwpr.net)
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Tuesday, July 31, 2001 p.A13 (Print Edition Only)
We created a monster
Albanian terrorists, armed by the West to fight
in Kosovo, are destroying
Macedonia, says Canada's former ambassador to
Yugoslavia
JAMES BISSETT
When Canadian pilots joined in the NATO bombing of
Yugoslavia in March 1999,
we were told by Lloyd Axworthy and Art Eggleton
that the intervention in
Kosovo was necessary to prevent the violence
there from spreading and
de-stabilizing the Balkans. Yet we now know that
long before the bombing it
was NATO countries themselves that were inciting
violence in Kosovo and
attempting to de-stabilize that Serbian
province. Moreover despite the
bombing the violence has spread -in Kosovo
itself, in southern Serbia, and
more recently in Macedonia.
Media reports have revealed that as early as
1998, the central intelligence
agency assisted by the British Special Armed
Services were arming and
training Kosovo Liberation Army members in
Albania to foment armed rebellion
in Kosovo. The KLA terrorists were sent back
into Kosovo to assassinate
Serbian mayors, ambush Serbian policemen and do
everything possible to
incite murder and chaos. The hope was that with
Kosovo in flames NATO could
intervene and in so doing, not only overthrow
Slobodan Milosevic the Serbian
strong man, but more importantly, provide the
aging and increasingly
irrelevant military organization with a reason
for its continued existence.
After bombing Yugoslavia into submission, NATO
then stood by and
submissively allowed the KLA to murder, pillage
and burn. The KLA was given
a free hand to do as they wished. Almost all of the
non-Albanian population
was ethnically cleansed from Kosovo under the
watchful eyes of 40,000 NATO
troops. Moreover, in defiance of United Nations
resolution 1244 which
brought an end to the fighting, NATO adamantly
refused to disarm the KLA
fighters. Instead, NATO converted this ragtag
band of terrorists into the
Kosovo Protection Force- allegedly to maintain
peace and order in Kosovo.
To add insult to injury NATO appointed an
alleged war criminal, Agim Ceku,
as commander of this force. Agim Ceku is an
Albanian Kosovar who led the
Croatian army in "operation storm" which
ethnically cleansed all of the
Serbian population from their ancestral lands in
Croatia. Some news reports
have suggested that there is a sealed indictment
against Ceku held by the
war crimes tribunal in the Hague but not acted
upon because to do so would
embarrass his NATO bosses. On june10 of this
year the London Times reported
that in early march, Agim Ceku ordered 800 KLA
reservists from Kosovo to
enter Macedonia to help their fellow Albanians
in their rebellion against the government there.
Few Albanian nationalists in the Balkans had
forgotten that under the
fascist and Nazi regimes of the 1940's, Albania
was given control of Kosovo,
parts of Macedonia and northern Greece. Those
latent dreams of Greater
Albania have been given new life by NATO's policy of
encouraging and actively supporting the Albanians of Kosovo to
use violence and force to
achieve their political goals. It appears our
NATO leaders did not realize
[or did not care] that by supporting Albanian
extremists the scourge of
Albanian racism would be unleashed in the
Balkans. Now in Macedonia the
broader consequences of NATO's ill-considered
intervention in that troubled
region of Europe is becoming more evident.
The KLA learned early in the Yugoslavian
campaign that NATO countries are
unwilling to risk the lives of their soldiers to
resolve Balkan problems. It
is one thing to bomb targets in Yugoslavia from
15,000 feet with little or
no risk to its pilots. It is quite another thing
to become involved in armed
conflict on the ground against a well-armed and
determined enemy.
Confirmation of this was evident when the KLA
went into to southern Serbia.
NATO was not prepared to intervene militarily to
halt that aggression. It
was only when NATO was able to strike a deal
with the new democratic powers
in Serbia to have Serbian troops restore order
in that region that the KLA were stopped.
Thwarted, at least temporarily, in southern
Serbia, the KLA then turned its
attention to Macedonia and in March started a
new military campaign in that
country. Their tactics were the same as those used
successfully in Kosovo,
i.e. assassination, ambush, and intimidation of
the local population. Again
as in Kosovo the KLA is armed and equipped by
western powers. The Macedonian
authorities in order to put down the armed
rebellion have used the same
tactics as employed by the Serbian forces in Kosovo;
shelling of villages occupied by KLA fighters with consequent
civilian casualties and refugees.
Unlike Kosovo, however, NATO authorities are
unable to react to the
Macedonian crisis as they did two years earlier
in Kosovo because obviously
bombing Macedonia is not the answer. Macedonia
is not headed by a Slobodan
Milosevic and its record of dealing with its
Albanian minority is, by Balkan
standards, exemplary. The issue is further
complicated by the reality that
the KLA is NATO's own creature and continues to
be looked upon favorably by
its previous masters. There seems little doubt
that NATO intends to ensure
that Kosovo remains under KLA control.
Even more alarming is the fact that the KLA and
its brethren in Macedonia
continue to receive assistance and military help
from NATO countries. Last
month when Macedonian forces were closing in on
KLA rebels near the town of
Aracinovo, NATO intervened and helped evacuate
the KLA fighters. According
to German media reports the intervention was
ordered because among the KLA
forces were 17 American advisors from an
American private mercenary
organization that has been actively engaged in
the Balkans during the
Yugoslav wars. It would not do to have had a
number of former us military
personnel captured along with KLA terrorists.
Although embarrassed by the actions of the KLA
in Macedonia NATO has shown
no inclination to bring a stop to this naked
aggression against a democratic
and peaceful nation. To do so would result in
armed clashes with the KLA
with consequent loss of NATO lives. It would
also underline the bankruptcy
of NATO's policy in the Balkans. This is not
something that Lord Robertson
or our NATO political leaders wish to have
highlighted.
Unwilling to confront the KLA the response so
far from NATO has been to
bring diplomatic pressure on the government of
Macedonia forcing it to yield
to Albanian demands. The secretary general of
NATO, Lord Robertson and the
European Union's foreign minister, Javier Solana
have arrived in Skopje to
press home NATO's insistence that Macedonia's
sovereignty must be
compromised. In the meantime KLA rebels are
reinforcing their forces who
have occupied most of western and northern
Macedonia. So much for NATO's
dedication to democratic ideals, the rule of law
and the peaceful resolution of international disputes.
James Bissett is a former Canadian ambassador to
Yugoslavia.
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Tuesday, July 31, 2001 p.A13 (Print Edition Only)
We created a monster
Albanian terrorists, armed by the West to fight
in Kosovo, are destroying
Macedonia, says Canada's former ambassador to
Yugoslavia
JAMES BISSETT
When Canadian pilots joined in the NATO bombing of
Yugoslavia in March 1999,
we were told by Lloyd Axworthy and Art Eggleton
that the intervention in
Kosovo was necessary to prevent the violence
there from spreading and
de-stabilizing the Balkans. Yet we now know that
long before the bombing it
was NATO countries themselves that were inciting
violence in Kosovo and
attempting to de-stabilize that Serbian
province. Moreover despite the
bombing the violence has spread -in Kosovo
itself, in southern Serbia, and
more recently in Macedonia.
Media reports have revealed that as early as
1998, the central intelligence
agency assisted by the British Special Armed
Services were arming and
training Kosovo Liberation Army members in
Albania to foment armed rebellion
in Kosovo. The KLA terrorists were sent back
into Kosovo to assassinate
Serbian mayors, ambush Serbian policemen and do
everything possible to
incite murder and chaos. The hope was that with
Kosovo in flames NATO could
intervene and in so doing, not only overthrow
Slobodan Milosevic the Serbian
strong man, but more importantly, provide the
aging and increasingly
irrelevant military organization with a reason
for its continued existence.
After bombing Yugoslavia into submission, NATO
then stood by and
submissively allowed the KLA to murder, pillage
and burn. The KLA was given
a free hand to do as they wished. Almost all of the
non-Albanian population
was ethnically cleansed from Kosovo under the
watchful eyes of 40,000 NATO
troops. Moreover, in defiance of United Nations
resolution 1244 which
brought an end to the fighting, NATO adamantly
refused to disarm the KLA
fighters. Instead, NATO converted this ragtag
band of terrorists into the
Kosovo Protection Force- allegedly to maintain
peace and order in Kosovo.
To add insult to injury NATO appointed an
alleged war criminal, Agim Ceku,
as commander of this force. Agim Ceku is an
Albanian Kosovar who led the
Croatian army in "operation storm" which
ethnically cleansed all of the
Serbian population from their ancestral lands in
Croatia. Some news reports
have suggested that there is a sealed indictment
against Ceku held by the
war crimes tribunal in the Hague but not acted
upon because to do so would
embarrass his NATO bosses. On june10 of this
year the London Times reported
that in early march, Agim Ceku ordered 800 KLA
reservists from Kosovo to
enter Macedonia to help their fellow Albanians
in their rebellion against the government there.
Few Albanian nationalists in the Balkans had
forgotten that under the
fascist and Nazi regimes of the 1940's, Albania
was given control of Kosovo,
parts of Macedonia and northern Greece. Those
latent dreams of Greater
Albania have been given new life by NATO's policy of
encouraging and actively supporting the Albanians of Kosovo to
use violence and force to
achieve their political goals. It appears our
NATO leaders did not realize
[or did not care] that by supporting Albanian
extremists the scourge of
Albanian racism would be unleashed in the
Balkans. Now in Macedonia the
broader consequences of NATO's ill-considered
intervention in that troubled
region of Europe is becoming more evident.
The KLA learned early in the Yugoslavian
campaign that NATO countries are
unwilling to risk the lives of their soldiers to
resolve Balkan problems. It
is one thing to bomb targets in Yugoslavia from
15,000 feet with little or
no risk to its pilots. It is quite another thing
to become involved in armed
conflict on the ground against a well-armed and
determined enemy.
Confirmation of this was evident when the KLA
went into to southern Serbia.
NATO was not prepared to intervene militarily to
halt that aggression. It
was only when NATO was able to strike a deal
with the new democratic powers
in Serbia to have Serbian troops restore order
in that region that the KLA were stopped.
Thwarted, at least temporarily, in southern
Serbia, the KLA then turned its
attention to Macedonia and in March started a
new military campaign in that
country. Their tactics were the same as those used
successfully in Kosovo,
i.e. assassination, ambush, and intimidation of
the local population. Again
as in Kosovo the KLA is armed and equipped by
western powers. The Macedonian
authorities in order to put down the armed
rebellion have used the same
tactics as employed by the Serbian forces in Kosovo;
shelling of villages occupied by KLA fighters with consequent
civilian casualties and refugees.
Unlike Kosovo, however, NATO authorities are
unable to react to the
Macedonian crisis as they did two years earlier
in Kosovo because obviously
bombing Macedonia is not the answer. Macedonia
is not headed by a Slobodan
Milosevic and its record of dealing with its
Albanian minority is, by Balkan
standards, exemplary. The issue is further
complicated by the reality that
the KLA is NATO's own creature and continues to
be looked upon favorably by
its previous masters. There seems little doubt
that NATO intends to ensure
that Kosovo remains under KLA control.
Even more alarming is the fact that the KLA and
its brethren in Macedonia
continue to receive assistance and military help
from NATO countries. Last
month when Macedonian forces were closing in on
KLA rebels near the town of
Aracinovo, NATO intervened and helped evacuate
the KLA fighters. According
to German media reports the intervention was
ordered because among the KLA
forces were 17 American advisors from an
American private mercenary
organization that has been actively engaged in
the Balkans during the
Yugoslav wars. It would not do to have had a
number of former us military
personnel captured along with KLA terrorists.
Although embarrassed by the actions of the KLA
in Macedonia NATO has shown
no inclination to bring a stop to this naked
aggression against a democratic
and peaceful nation. To do so would result in
armed clashes with the KLA
with consequent loss of NATO lives. It would
also underline the bankruptcy
of NATO's policy in the Balkans. This is not
something that Lord Robertson
or our NATO political leaders wish to have
highlighted.
Unwilling to confront the KLA the response so
far from NATO has been to
bring diplomatic pressure on the government of
Macedonia forcing it to yield
to Albanian demands. The secretary general of
NATO, Lord Robertson and the
European Union's foreign minister, Javier Solana
have arrived in Skopje to
press home NATO's insistence that Macedonia's
sovereignty must be
compromised. In the meantime KLA rebels are
reinforcing their forces who
have occupied most of western and northern
Macedonia. So much for NATO's
dedication to democratic ideals, the rule of law
and the peaceful resolution of international disputes.
James Bissett is a former Canadian ambassador to
Yugoslavia.
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[Emperor's Clothes]
ARTICLES ON SREBRENICA (with brief descriptions)
[3 August 2001]
The media is using the - in our opinion -
outrageous conviction of General
Krstic by NATO's Hague 'Tribunal' to
broadcast massive amounts of sheer
misinformation about what happened in
the town of Srebrenica 6 years ago. The
following list of articles about Srebrenica
includes brief descriptions:
1 - MISTREATMENT OF GENERAL KRSTIC. The
following two articles deal with the
brutal mistreatment of General Krstic.
(Abuse of Serbs by The Hague
'Tribunal' is commonplace; the latest
example is the completely unjustified
confinement of President Slobodan Milosevic
in total isolation from other
prisoners, and even from his wife.)
The articles on Krstic are: 'Appeal:
Help Save The Life of Gen. Krstic, Tormented at the Hague' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/citizens.htm
and 'Statement of the Daughter of General Krstic' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/child.htm
2- SINISTER SUGGESTION FROM A SURPRISING SOURCE:
'Refuting the Srebrenica Myth: An Islamist
Perspective' by Konstantin Kilibarda.
Statements from embittered leaders of the
Islamist forces in Srebrenica and
information from the United Nations
suggest that Washington and the
Izetbegovic government in Sarajevo
conspired to fabricate a massacre story
for propaganda purposes. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/kilibarda/islamist.htm
3 - Jared Israel's 'Five Years On & the
Lies Continue' appeared last year as
a full page ad in the 'Sydney Herald'
and the 'New York Post.' The article,
which can be read at http://emperors-
clothes.com/articles/jared/texts.htm ,
argues that it wasn't the Islamists but
ordinary Serbian villagers who were
slaughtered by the terrorists under Nasir
Oric at Srebrenica. The Australian
advertisement led to an intense debate
on Australian Public Radio between
Israel and the 'NY Times' Srebrenica 'expert' David Rohde.
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts.htm
3- David Rohde vs. Max Sinclair and Jared Israel
David Rohde wrote the original Srebrenica
massacre story when he was a
'Christian Science Monitor' reporter in
1995. By making loud if unsubstantiated
accusations against the Bosnian Serbs he landed a perch at
the 'NY Times' from which he has been
issuing fanciful Srebrenica updates at
strategic intervals ever since.
The debate between Emperor's Clothes
and Rohde began with the publication of
'Why has the War Crimes Tribunal
suppressed testimony about Srebrenica?' by
Max Sinclair and Jared Israel at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/sinclair/why.htm
David Rohde replied to Sinclair and
Israel in an email which he sent to Prof.
Drasko Jovanovic, with whom he had been
corresponding about Srebrenica. Go to
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/inaccurate.htm
Jovanovic forwarded Rohde's comments
to Sinclair and Israel who answered
Rohde by email at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/reply.htm
Prof. Jovanovic also sent Emperor's
Clothes a short memoir concerning his
experience as a boy in Nazi occupied
Yugoslavia. which can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/letterj.htm
Here Prof. Jovanovic dealt
with real genocide, as opposed to
the Rohde's unsubstantiated claims.
Rohde then took his dispute with
Emperors Clothes to the pages of the 'NY
Times,' writing an article in which he
omitted nothing but Israel and
Sinclair's actual arguments. Jared
Israel replied to Rohde's 'Times' piece at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm.
Prof. Jovanovic also replied, at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/farewell.htm
4 - George Pumphrey has written perhaps
the two best- documented articles
exposing government and media fabrications
about Srebrenica. The first is
'Srebrenica: 3 Years Later and Still Searching;' it can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/pumphrey/Srebrenica.html'
The more recent piece is 'Scandal in the Hague' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/pumphrey/scandal.htm,
which includes an introduction by Jared Israel
dealing with 'justice' as practiced at the Hague 'Tribunal.'
5 - Ren� Gr�maux and Abe de Vries'
analysis, 'The Construction of a Trauma.'
is ostensibly noncommittal regarding
whether there was in fact a massacre,
but the documentation argues against.
Here you will find firm refutation from
the Dutch -UN command as well as
self-contradictory testimony from supposed
witnesses. Can be read at http://emperors-
clothes.com/analysis/falsely.htm
6 - Sarah Standefer has written a
sharp rebuttal to the Srebrenica argument
which has been revived, as she points
out, to suit NATO's current propaganda
needs. See 'Thoughts On Srebrenica ' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/standefer/hoax.htm
7 - Here are some Useful Articles
on the 'International Criminal Tribunal for
Yugoslavia' (ICTY) also known as The Hague 'Tribunal'
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the distinguished philosopher
and social-legal analyst associated with the United
Nations examines the Tribunal and does not
like what he finds. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished
Yugoslav legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals with the torture and
physical destruction of Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski describes the practices of
the Tribunal, which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees
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ARTICLES ON SREBRENICA (with brief descriptions)
[3 August 2001]
The media is using the - in our opinion -
outrageous conviction of General
Krstic by NATO's Hague 'Tribunal' to
broadcast massive amounts of sheer
misinformation about what happened in
the town of Srebrenica 6 years ago. The
following list of articles about Srebrenica
includes brief descriptions:
1 - MISTREATMENT OF GENERAL KRSTIC. The
following two articles deal with the
brutal mistreatment of General Krstic.
(Abuse of Serbs by The Hague
'Tribunal' is commonplace; the latest
example is the completely unjustified
confinement of President Slobodan Milosevic
in total isolation from other
prisoners, and even from his wife.)
The articles on Krstic are: 'Appeal:
Help Save The Life of Gen. Krstic, Tormented at the Hague' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/citizens.htm
and 'Statement of the Daughter of General Krstic' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/child.htm
2- SINISTER SUGGESTION FROM A SURPRISING SOURCE:
'Refuting the Srebrenica Myth: An Islamist
Perspective' by Konstantin Kilibarda.
Statements from embittered leaders of the
Islamist forces in Srebrenica and
information from the United Nations
suggest that Washington and the
Izetbegovic government in Sarajevo
conspired to fabricate a massacre story
for propaganda purposes. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/kilibarda/islamist.htm
3 - Jared Israel's 'Five Years On & the
Lies Continue' appeared last year as
a full page ad in the 'Sydney Herald'
and the 'New York Post.' The article,
which can be read at http://emperors-
clothes.com/articles/jared/texts.htm ,
argues that it wasn't the Islamists but
ordinary Serbian villagers who were
slaughtered by the terrorists under Nasir
Oric at Srebrenica. The Australian
advertisement led to an intense debate
on Australian Public Radio between
Israel and the 'NY Times' Srebrenica 'expert' David Rohde.
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts.htm
3- David Rohde vs. Max Sinclair and Jared Israel
David Rohde wrote the original Srebrenica
massacre story when he was a
'Christian Science Monitor' reporter in
1995. By making loud if unsubstantiated
accusations against the Bosnian Serbs he landed a perch at
the 'NY Times' from which he has been
issuing fanciful Srebrenica updates at
strategic intervals ever since.
The debate between Emperor's Clothes
and Rohde began with the publication of
'Why has the War Crimes Tribunal
suppressed testimony about Srebrenica?' by
Max Sinclair and Jared Israel at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/sinclair/why.htm
David Rohde replied to Sinclair and
Israel in an email which he sent to Prof.
Drasko Jovanovic, with whom he had been
corresponding about Srebrenica. Go to
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/inaccurate.htm
Jovanovic forwarded Rohde's comments
to Sinclair and Israel who answered
Rohde by email at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/reply.htm
Prof. Jovanovic also sent Emperor's
Clothes a short memoir concerning his
experience as a boy in Nazi occupied
Yugoslavia. which can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/letterj.htm
Here Prof. Jovanovic dealt
with real genocide, as opposed to
the Rohde's unsubstantiated claims.
Rohde then took his dispute with
Emperors Clothes to the pages of the 'NY
Times,' writing an article in which he
omitted nothing but Israel and
Sinclair's actual arguments. Jared
Israel replied to Rohde's 'Times' piece at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm.
Prof. Jovanovic also replied, at
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/farewell.htm
4 - George Pumphrey has written perhaps
the two best- documented articles
exposing government and media fabrications
about Srebrenica. The first is
'Srebrenica: 3 Years Later and Still Searching;' it can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/pumphrey/Srebrenica.html'
The more recent piece is 'Scandal in the Hague' at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/pumphrey/scandal.htm,
which includes an introduction by Jared Israel
dealing with 'justice' as practiced at the Hague 'Tribunal.'
5 - Ren� Gr�maux and Abe de Vries'
analysis, 'The Construction of a Trauma.'
is ostensibly noncommittal regarding
whether there was in fact a massacre,
but the documentation argues against.
Here you will find firm refutation from
the Dutch -UN command as well as
self-contradictory testimony from supposed
witnesses. Can be read at http://emperors-
clothes.com/analysis/falsely.htm
6 - Sarah Standefer has written a
sharp rebuttal to the Srebrenica argument
which has been revived, as she points
out, to suit NATO's current propaganda
needs. See 'Thoughts On Srebrenica ' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/standefer/hoax.htm
7 - Here are some Useful Articles
on the 'International Criminal Tribunal for
Yugoslavia' (ICTY) also known as The Hague 'Tribunal'
* In 'Illegal Tribunal - Illegal Indictment'
Dr. Hans Koechler, the distinguished philosopher
and social-legal analyst associated with the United
Nations examines the Tribunal and does not
like what he finds. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/prog2.htm
* In 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?',
Attorney Chris Black examines the
Tribunal's history and methods of operations. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
* Dr. Kosta Cavoski, a distinguished
Yugoslav legal scholar, has written a
mind-boggling four-part series.
In 'The War Crimes Tribunal vs. Gen. Djordje Djukic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-1.htm
and 'The Mistreatment of Col. Aleksa Krsmanovic' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-2.htm
Professor Cavoski deals with the torture and
physical destruction of Serbian 'defendants'.
In Illegal Origins' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-3.htm
Professor Cavoski analyzes the Tribunal's
legal rationale, or lack of same.
In 'Learning from the Inquisition' at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/cavoski/c-4.htm
Professor Cavoski describes the practices of
the Tribunal, which thoroughly violate what we
would consider natural legal guarantees
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[Partial translation; original in German follows.]
DER SPIEGEL (Hamburg), Monday, July 30, 2001
MACEDONIA: THE DOUBLE GAME OF THE AMERICANS
by Renate Flottau, Olaf Ihlau, Susanne Koelbl and
Alexander Szandar
There is growing irritation among the Europeans over
Washington's dubious actions in the Balkans: As
godfather of the UCK it shares responsibility for
the worsening conflict between Albanians and Macedonian
Slavs. [3 paragraphs omitted in translation]
Europe looks at its southeastern back yard with dismay.
Once again the fuse of an ethnic explosion is
smoldering. After the decade of the Yugoslav
succession wars that cost the lives of almost 300,000
people, another bloodbath in the Balkans looms with
the open civil war between two ethnic groups that
could plunge the entire region into chaos. [3
paragraphs omitted in translation]
So as not to appear as the clear villain, before the
new round of talks began the UCK cleared its forward
positions at Tetovo and withdrew to mountain posts, from
which it can easily strike again. But the separatist
Albanians will do the same if they do not obtain by the
political route what they are actually striving for:
First certified equality as an ethnic group through a
constitutional amendment, then the de facto
division of Macedonia, and finally a greater Albanian
fatherland.
There are reasons behind the outcry of Skopje's head of
government Ljubco Georgievski, himself a dedicated Slav
nationalist, over the West's alleged partisanship. In
this sad spectacle over Macedonia's future the UCK is
the main villain and the Americans play the shady part.
The UCK fighters were once schooled by American and
British trainers in Albanian camps for use against
Milosevic's soldiers in Kosovo. No one knows the main
actors, the UCK's commando structure and its financiers
and arms suppliers as well as the CIA, which keeps the
Albanian secret service close to its side as a subsidiary.
When in February UCK irregulars from Kosovo instigated
skirmishes in the West Macedonian border region,
initially the KFOR peacekeeping troops idly
observed. At that time Prime Minister Georgievski
accused Washington, but also Berlin, of having
withheld key information on planned terrorist
actions. The US government knew of at least 300
rebels, he said.
To confidants German defense minister Rudolf Scharping
complained that the "international community," meaning
first of all the Americans, had "not acted consistently"
and thus "shared responsibility" for the current crisis.
In fact, German soldiers in Macedonia are already
standing between the fronts. Last week they hastily
evacuated a depot in Tetovo when the barracks
was caught in a cross-fire between UCK marksmen and
the Macedonian army.
The great oversight of the Alliance is that, under
Washington's influence, after the air war against the
Serbs it treated the UCK independence fighters
as allies. Top Bundeswehr soldiers internally complain
of the constant camaraderie since 1999.
The Kosovo example: It should not have happened that
after the KFOR troops marched in the UCK made thousands
of guns, pistols and mortars disappear.
German soldiers who acted firmly against UCK members
who were carrying weapons despite the ban were reined
in by their superiors. 'That is not in compliance with
the NATO policy' was their commanders' implicit message.
The earlier UCK supreme commander Hashim Thaci, a protege
of then-US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, put a
few thousand of his fighters in the so-called Kosovo
Defense Corps (KPC for short), a sort of technical
relief organization officially intended to help in
repairing destroyed houses.
German KFOR commander Klaus Reinhardt warned in vain of
new activities by the underground UCK; the Americans
kept flirting with it. Reinhardt later complained that
politicians, diplomats and the NATO supreme commander for
Europe, Wesley Clark, regularly brushed aside warning
cries from the KFOR headquarters in Pristina.
As early as the start of December 1999, when the NATO
peacekeeping force had not yet been in the country for
half a year, KFOR reconnaissance patrols in the Presevo
valley noticed suspicious young Kosovars. The area belongs
to the so-called Ground Safety Zone (GSZ), a demilitarized
buffer zone between the Serbian heartland and Kosovo.
The Americans monitored the main traffic arteries so
loosely that the area quickly became a trading center
for arms runners, drug dealers and traffickers in young
women, controlled by the UCK and mafia. A "Presevo,
Medvedja and Bujanovac Liberation Army" (UCPMB) quickly
occupied villages, drove out Serb residents and called
for annexation to Kosovo.
KFOR leader Reinhardt called in vain on US officers
to act vigorously against illegal border crossers. NATO
supreme commander Clark always merely answered the
warnings about the firebrands in the Presovo valley with
questions about the old enemy: "And where do the Serbs
stand?"
When Serbian security forces moved into the Presevo valley
last March with NATO's consent, many UCK members went over
the land border to Macedonia or back to Kosovo. Scharping
suspiciously asked NATO colleagues how UCK members
were being prevented at checkpoints in the American Kosovo
sector from giving up their weapons but "two kilometers
further are taking up new weapons and continuing on to
Macedonia?" The news tickers gave the answer:
Freshly armed UCK members were again proclaiming "liberated
zones" in Macedonia.
While NATO had long been making plans for the
intervention, including disarming the UCK rebels, in
late June US special units evacuated 400 UCK fighters
from the guerilla stronghold of Aracinovo surrounded
by Macedonian troops, right in front of the gates to
Skopje. Not only UCK fighters found refuge in armored
personnel carriers and buses with KFOR markings, but
also 17 American civilians. They were declared to be
"observers" but instead of dissuading the UCK members
from playing with fire they served them as trainers.
Moreover, thanks to US assistance the UCK's command center
was set up in Aracinovo, with direct satellite phone
connection to the Pentagon. "We have confiscated weapons,"
a police representative said with annoyance in Skopje,
"whose serial numbers clearly indicate NATO resources."
Also videocassettes of Macedonian military positions that
in his opinion had been filmed from KFOR helicopters and
made available to the UCK by the Americans.
A questionable maneuver: In NATO the USA urges the allies
to intervene in Macedonia while at the same time the
Americans are training the UCK, and the Macedonian army
also receives help from Washington as well.
Once again the Germans and the other allies are
irritated at the dual strategy of NATO supremacy.
Reports "of American ex-officers as trainers with the
Macedonian UCK," notes Green Bundestag deputy
Winfried Nachtwei, "once again raise doubts about US
policy in the region." And CDU deputy Willy Wimmer
speculates that the USA is supporting a "greater
Albania well-disposed toward it" in the Balkans,
obviously for strategic reasons.
The suspicion is well-founded. The Berlin government
knows from secret service reports that in Macedonia
the same court clique being pampered by the USA is
stoking the fires of war: Since May the head of the
purportedly civilian Kosovo defense force, Agim Ceku,
has been assembling UCK reservists to prepare them in
Albanian training camps for the new war. The military
supreme command of the Macedonian UCK is under former
Ceku deputy Ramush Haradinaj.
The person procuring the money is a man who already
enjoyed the Americans' trust at the talks in
Rambouillet as a negotiator next to Thaci: Xhavit
Haliti was already collecting donations for the UCK
before the Kosovo war; in recent weeks, the secret
services report, he has collected another 43 million
marks from Albanians in Germany and Switzerland.
The trio of Haliti, Thaci and Haradinaj has not by
any means funded their Kalashnikov policy from
donations alone: "The unrest in Macedonia and the
related instability in the region," a secret service
file states, are "the absolute precondition for their
criminal business" - meaning illicit dealings in
drugs, weapons and young women.
Fed by such facts, the Europeans' pressure on the USA
is clearly beginning to show an impact. In late June
President George W. Bush prohibited 21 UCK leaders
from traveling to the USA and barred US citizens from
money transactions with the extremists. Top people of
the Kosovo Defense Corps were also on the Bush list;
only later were they fired.
Meanwhile, the pathetic praise expressed by Bush for
the American border patrols in a drop-by visit last
week in Kosovo struck Scharping and his military
people as scornful. As Bush said in all seriousness
in his appearance in the fortress-like Camp
Bondsteel, they prevented "weapons from falling into
rebel hands," which is why there is now "hope for
peace" in Macedonia. But Bush also warned the UCK to
keep quiet in neighboring Macedonia: "The Kosovars
should concentrate on Kosovo."
Now the Berlin government is wondering: Is Bush doing
an about-face, or is he once again just lulling the
suspicious NATO partners? After all, at the end of
the day they are the ones to pick up the pieces of
the questionable US policy in Macedonia.
The Americans themselves do not want to send any
combat troops to Macedonia to disarm the UCK. They
feel troops of the European NATO allies should be the
only ones doing the risky dirty work.
But no one knows better than the Americans what the
UCK irregulars are up to. The US force in the Balkans
has low-flying satellites and its own mobile
communication system that enables encrypted telephone
calls. Obviously thus far neither the West European
secret services nor the Russian spy service has
technically succeeded in penetrating and listening in
on this "low-flying satellite-based system."
The UCK, however, can use the Americans' exclusive
communication network with a radio circuit of its
own. As a result, Washington's professional
eavesdroppers are always perfectly well informed when
the Albanian irregulars plan to attack and where they
plan to withdraw.
=======================================================
DER SPIEGEL 31/2001
URL:
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,147569,00.html
Mazedonien
Das Doppelspiel der Amerikaner
Unter den Europ�ern w�chst die Irritation �ber das
zwielichtige Agieren Washingtons auf dem Balkan: Als
Paten der U�K sind die USA mitverantwortlich f�r die
Zuspitzung des Konflikts zwischen Albanern und
Slawo-Mazedoniern.
Unsere Regierung hat uns verkauft, der Westen auch",
schimpft der Slawo-Mazedonier Ljubco, 45. Nachts
schl�ft er mit seiner Familie im gro�en Park der
mazedonischen Hauptstadt Skopje, tags�ber sitzt er
mit Hunderten Vertriebenen unter gl�hender Sonne vor
dem Parlament. "Ihr habt uns verraten", steht auf
einem Transparent. Bis Anfang vorvergangener Woche
neun Granaten bei seinem Haus einschlugen, hatte
Ljubcos Familie in einem Vorort von Tetovo gewohnt,
der Albaner-Hochburg im Westen der zwei Millionen
Einwohner z�hlenden Mini-Republik. F�nf Monate lang
hatte sie Schie�ereien ertragen, die fast jede Nacht
aus den Bergen herunter-hallten.
Dort oben nisteten Sto�trupps der albanischen
Befreiungsarmee U�K. "Oft haben wir uns gefragt:
Kommen die jetzt und bringen uns um?", berichtet
Ljubco, dem in diesen f�nf Monaten das Vertrauen zu
seinen albanischen Nachbarn abhanden kam, "denn die
hatten sich l�ngst mit der U�K solidarisiert und
wollen Westmazedonien ethnisch von uns s�ubern."
Dann die Granaten, die Panik und Flucht. Wie Ljubco
verlie�en bis Mitte voriger Woche mehrere tausend
Slawo-Mazedonier ver�ngstigt nur mit ein paar
Habseligkeiten ihre D�rfer um Tetovo. Viele, die
keine Verwandten zum Unterschlupf haben, strandeten
in Skopje. Dort kam es zu Protestz�gen,
nationalistischen Gewaltaktionen und antiwestlichen
Demonstrationen, wurden Fahrzeuge internationaler
Organisationen in Brand gesetzt, die Botschaften
Deutschlands, Gro�britanniens und der USA mit
Steinw�rfen attackiert.
Verst�rt blickt Europa in seinen s�d�stlichen
Hinterhof. Erneut glimmt dort die Lunte f�r eine
ethnische Explosion. Nach der Dekade der
jugoslawischen Erbfolgekriege, die nahezu 300 000
Menschenleben forderten, droht nun mit dem offenen
B�rgerkrieg zweier Volksgruppen ein weiteres Blutbad
auf dem Balkan, das die gesamte Region ins Chaos
st�rzen k�nnte.
Mazedonien balanciere "auf des Messers Schneide",
warnte Nato-Generalsekret�r George Robertson.
Gemeinsam mit einer Garde von EU-Vermittlern
versuchte der Brite Ende voriger Woche verbissen in
Verhandlungen, doch noch eine politische �bereinkunft
zwischen den zerstrittenen Volksgruppen
herbeizuf�hren. Denn nur mit �u�erstem
internationalem Druck scheint in Europas historischem
Pulverfass ein weiterer, sich mit erschreckender
Dynamik aufpumpender Konflikt noch abwendbar zu sein.
Und nur bei einer soliden politischen �bereinkunft
sowie einem dauerhaften Waffenstillstand w�re die
Nato bereit, eine Friedenstruppe von 3000 Mann -
darunter wohl auch 500 deutsche Soldaten - ins Land
zu schicken und die Waffen albanischer Freisch�rler
einzusammeln.
Aber ein auf dem Balkan geschlossener Burgfrieden,
das lehrt die historische Erfahrung, ist br�chig.
Drei Granaten, abgefeuert von Extremisten, k�nnen ihn
jederzeit torpedieren. "Das Selbstverst�ndnis der
V�lker ist f�r viele wichtiger als alles andere",
sagt der deutsche Nato-Botschafterin Skopje,
Hans-J�rg Eiff, ein ausgewiesener Balkan-Kenner, und
er meint damit: Symbolische Fragen sind hier
wichtiger als ein paar tausend Tote.
Um nicht als der eindeutige B�sewicht dazustehen,
hatte die U�K vor Beginn der neuen Verhandlungsrunde
ihre vordersten Positionen bei Tetovo ger�umt und
sich auf Bergstellungen zur�ckgezogen. Von denen aus
kann sie ohne Schwierigkeiten erneut zuschlagen. Das
aber werden die separatistischen Albaner auch tun,
wenn sie auf dem politischen Weg nicht kriegen, was
sie in Wahrheit anstreben: zun�chst die durch
Verfassungs�nderung verbriefte Gleichstellung als
Volksgruppe, dann die De-facto-Teilung Mazedoniens
und schlie�lich ein gro�albanisches Vaterland.
Der Aufschrei von Skopjes Regierungschef Ljubco
Georgievski, selbst ein hartleibiger
Slawo-Nationalist, �ber die angebliche Parteinahme
des Westens hat seine Gr�nde. In diesem tr�ben Spiel
um die Zukunft Mazedoniens ist die U�K der
Hauptschurke, und die Amerikaner geben den
zwielichtigen Part.
Die K�mpfer der U�K wurden einst von amerikanischen
und britischen Ausbildern in albanischen Camps f�r
den Einsatz gegen Milosevics Soldaten im Kosovo
trainiert. Keiner kennt die wichtigsten Akteure, die
Kommandostruktur der U�K sowie deren Finanziers und
Waffenlieferanten so gut wie die CIA, die sich den
albanischen Geheimdienst nebenher als Filiale h�lt.
Als im Februar U�K-Freisch�rler vom Kosovo aus
Scharm�tzel in der westmazedonischen Grenzregion
anzettelten, schaute die Kfor-Friedenstruppe zun�chst
tatenlos zu. W�tend warf Premier Georgievski damals
Washington - aber auch Berlin - vor, wesentliche
Informationen �ber geplante terroristische Aktionen
zur�ckgehalten zu haben. Mindestens 300 Rebellen
seien der US-Regierung bekannt gewesen.
Vor Vertrauten schimpfte Bundesverteidigungsminister
Rudolf Scharping, die "internationale Gemeinschaft" -
gemeint sind vor allem die Amerikaner - habe sich
"nicht konsequent verhalten". Sie trage deshalb
"Mitverantwortung" f�r die aktuelle Krise.
Tats�chlich stehen deutsche Soldaten in Mazedonien
bereits jetzt zwischen den Fronten. Vergangene Woche
r�umten sie fluchtartig ein Depot in Tetovo, als die
Kaserne ins Kreuzfeuer von U�K-Sch�tzen und
mazedonischer Armee geriet.
Das gro�e Vers�umnis der Allianz: Unter dem Einfluss
Washingtons verfuhr sie nach dem Luftkrieg gegen die
Serben mit den Unabh�ngigkeitsk�mpfern der U�K wie
mit Verb�ndeten. F�hrende Bundeswehr-Milit�rs
beklagen intern die seit 1999 ungebrochene
Kameraderie.
Beispiel Kosovo: Es h�tte nicht sein m�ssen, dass die
U�K nach dem Einmarsch der Kfor-Truppen Tausende
Gewehre, Pistolen und M�rser verschwinden lie�.
Deutsche Soldaten, die rigoros gegen U�K-Leute
vorgingen, die trotz Verbots Waffen trugen, wurden
von oben zur�ckgepfiffen. Das entspreche nicht der
Nato-Linie, lie�en ihre Kommandeure durchblicken.
Der fr�here U�K-Oberbefehlshaber Hashim Tha�i, ein
Proteg� der damaligen US-Au�enministerin Madeleine
Albright, brachte einige tausend seiner K�mpfer im so
genannten Kosovo-Schutzkorps (K�rzel: KPC) unter -
einer Art technischem Hilfswerk, das offiziell beim
Herrichten zerst�rter H�user behilflich sein soll.
Vergebens warnte der deutsche Kfor-Kommandeur Klaus
Reinhardt vor neuen Umtrieben der Untergrund-U�K. Die
Amerikaner blieben auf Schmusekurs. Politiker,
Diplomaten und der Nato-Oberbefehlshaber f�r Europa,
Wesley Clark, so beschwerte sich Reinhardt sp�ter,
wischten Alarmrufe aus dem Kfor-Hauptquartier in
Pristina regelm��ig beiseite.
Bereits Anfang Dezember 1999, die Nato-Friedenstruppe
war noch kein halbes Jahr im Land, fielen
Kfor-Sp�hern im Presovo-Tal verd�chtige junge
Kosovaren auf. Die Gegend geh�rt zur so genannten
Ground Safety Zone (GSZ), einer entmilitarisierten
Pufferzone zwischen dem serbischen Kernland und dem
Kosovo.
An den Hauptverkehrsadern kontrollierten die
Amerikaner so lax, dass das Gebiet rasch zum
Umschlagplatz f�r Waffenschieber, Drogendealer und
M�dchenh�ndler wurde - beherrscht von U�K und Mafia.
Prompt besetzte eine "Befreiungsarmee Presovo,
Medvedja und Bujanovac" (U�PMB) D�rfer, vertrieb
serbische Bewohner und verlangte den Anschluss an das
Kosovo.
Erfolglos forderte Kfor-Chef Reinhardt US-Offiziere
auf, energisch gegen illegale Grenzg�nger
einzuschreiten. Nato-Oberbefehlshaber Clark
quittierte die Warnungen vor den Brandstiftern im
Presovo-Tal stets nur mit Fragen nach dem alten
Kriegsgegner: "Und wo stehen da die Serben?"
Als serbische Sicherheitskr�fte mit Einverst�ndnis
der Nato vergangenen M�rz in das Presovo-Tal
einr�ckten, gingen viele U�K-Leute �ber die gr�ne
Grenze nach Mazedonien oder zur�ck in das Kosovo.
Argw�hnisch fragte Scharping Nato-Kollegen, wie
verhindert werde, dass U�K-Leute an Kontrollposten im
amerikanischen Kosovo-Sektor ihre Waffen abgeben,
aber "zwei Kilometer weiter neue Waffen aufnehmen und
nach Mazedonien weiterziehen?" Die Antwort lieferten
die Nachrichten-Ticker: Frisch bewaffnete U�K-Leute
riefen in Mazedonien erneut "befreite Zonen" aus.
W�hrend die Nato l�ngst Pl�ne f�r das Eingreifen samt
Entwaffnung der U�K-Rebellen schmiedete, evakuierten
US-Spezialeinheiten Ende Juni 400 U�K-K�mpfer aus der
von mazedonischen Truppen eingeschlossenen
Guerrilla-Hochburg Aracinovo, unmittelbar vor den
Toren Skopjes. Nicht nur U�K-K�mpfer fanden Zuflucht
in Sch�tzenpanzern und Bussen mit Kfor-Bemalung,
sondern auch 17 amerikanische Zivilisten. Die waren
zwar als "Beobachter" deklariert. Aber statt die
U�K-Leute vom Z�ndeln abzubringen, dienten sie
ihnen als Ausbilder.
In Aracinovo soll dank US-Assistenz zudem die
Befehlszentrale der U�K installiert gewesen sein -
mit direkter Satellitentelefonverbindung ins
Pentagon. "Wir haben Waffen beschlagnahmt", �rgert
sich in Skopje ein Polizeivertreter, "deren
Seriennummern eindeutig auf Nato-Ressourcen
hinwiesen." Au�erdem Videokassetten mazedonischer
Milit�rstellungen, die seiner Meinung nach von
Kfor-Hubschraubern aufgenommen und der U�K von den
Amerikanern zur Verf�gung gestellt wurden.
Ein fragw�rdiges Man�ver: In der Nato dr�ngen die USA
die Verb�ndeten zum Eingreifen in Mazedonien,
zugleich trainieren Amerikaner die U�K - und nebenbei
erh�lt auch die mazedonische Armee Hilfe aus
Washington.
Einmal mehr sind die Deutschen und die �brigen
Verb�ndeten �ber die Doppelstrategie der
Nato-Vormacht irritiert. Berichte "�ber amerikanische
Ex-Offiziere als Ausbilder bei der mazedonischen
U�K", urteilt der Gr�nen-Bundestagsabgeordnete
Winfried Nachtwei, "sch�ren erneut Zweifel an der
US-Politik in der Region". Und der CDU-Abgeordnete
Willy Wimmer mutma�t, die USA unterst�tzten
offensichtlich aus strategischen Gr�nden auf dem
Balkan ein "ihnen wohlgesinntes Gro�albanien".
Der Verdacht ist begr�ndet. Aus Geheimdienstberichten
wei� die Berliner Regierung, dass in Mazedonien
wieder die gleiche Kamarilla den Krieg anheizt, die
von den USA geh�tschelt wurde: Der Chef der
vorgeblich zivilen Kosovo-Schutztruppe, Agim �eku,
sammelt demnach seit Mai U�K-Reservisten, um sie in
albanischen Ausbildungscamps f�r den neuen Krieg zu
trainieren. Dem vormaligen �eku-Stellvertreter Ramush
Haradinaj untersteht das milit�rische Oberkommando
der mazedonischen U�K.
Als Geldbeschaffer fungiert ein Mann, der bereits bei
den Gespr�chen in Rambouillet neben Tha�i als
Unterh�ndler das Vertrauen der Amerikaner genoss:
Xhavit Haliti sammelte schon vor dem Kosovo-Krieg
Spenden f�r die U�K; in den vergangenen Wochen,
berichten die Geheimdienste, tribe er bei Albanern in
Deutschland und der Schweiz wieder satte 43 Millionen
Mark f�r die Kriegskasse ein.
Das Trio Haliti, Tha�i und Haradinaj finanziert seine
Politik der Kalaschnikow keineswegs nur aus Spenden:
"Die Unruhen in Mazedonien und die damit verbundene
Instabilit�t in der Region", hei�t es in einem
Geheimdienst-Dossier, seien "absolute Voraussetzung
f�r ihre kriminellen Gesch�fte" - gemeint sind
schmutzige Deals mit Drogen, Waffen und M�dchen.
Gespeist durch solche Fakten, beginnt der Druck der
Europ�er auf die USA offenbar Wirkung zu zeigen. Ende
Juni untersagte Pr�sident George W. Bush 21
U�K-F�hrern, in die USA einzureisen und verbot
US-B�rgern Geldgesch�fte mit den Extremisten. Auf der
Bush-Liste fanden sich auch Topleute des
Kosovo-Schutzkorps. Danach erst wurden sie gefeuert.
Wie Hohn erschien Scharping und seinen Milit�rs indes
das pathetische Lob, das Bush vergangene Woche bei
einer Stippvisite im Kosovo f�r die amerikanischen
Grenzpatrouillen aussprach. Die h�tten verhindert, so
Bush bei seinem Auftritt im festungsartigen Camp
Bondsteel allen Ernstes, "dass Waffen in
Rebellenh�nde fallen" - weshalb es nun eine "Hoffnung
auf Frieden" in Mazedonien gebe. Bush ermahnte aber
auch die U�K, im Nachbarland Mazedonien Ruhe zu
geben: "Die Kosovaren sollten sich auf das Kosovo
konzentrieren."
Nun r�tselt die Berliner Regierung: Leitet Bush eine
Kehrtwende ein, oder geht es wieder einmal nur darum,
die argw�hnischen Nato-Partner einzulullen? Die
sollen ja schlie�lich in Mazedonien die Scherben der
fragw�rdigen US-Politik aufklauben.
Die Amerikaner selbst wollen zur Entwaffnung der U�K
keine Kampftruppen nach Mazedonien schicken. Die
riskante Drecksarbeit sollen Soldaten der
europ�ischen Nato-Verb�ndeten allein leisten.
Niemand aber wei� besser als die Amerikaner, was die
U�K-Freisch�rler im Schilde f�hren. Die US-Truppe auf
dem Balkan verf�gt mit niedrig fliegenden Satelliten
�ber ein eigenes, mobiles Kommunikationssystem. Darin
l�sst sich verschl�sselt telefonieren. Weder
westeurop�ischen Geheimdiensten noch dem russischen
Spionagedienst gelang es bislang offenbar, in dieses
"low-flying satellite based system" technisch als
Mith�rer einzudringen.
Die U�K aber darf das exklusive Kommunikationsnetz
der Amerikaner mit einem eigenen Funkkreis nutzen.
Washingtons professionelle Lauscher sind somit stets
bestens informiert, wann die albanischen Freisch�rler
zur Attacke und wo sie zum R�ckzug blasen.
RENATE FLOTTAU, OLAF IHLAU, SUSANNE KOELBL, ALEXANDER
SZANDAR
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DER SPIEGEL (Hamburg), Monday, July 30, 2001
MACEDONIA: THE DOUBLE GAME OF THE AMERICANS
by Renate Flottau, Olaf Ihlau, Susanne Koelbl and
Alexander Szandar
There is growing irritation among the Europeans over
Washington's dubious actions in the Balkans: As
godfather of the UCK it shares responsibility for
the worsening conflict between Albanians and Macedonian
Slavs. [3 paragraphs omitted in translation]
Europe looks at its southeastern back yard with dismay.
Once again the fuse of an ethnic explosion is
smoldering. After the decade of the Yugoslav
succession wars that cost the lives of almost 300,000
people, another bloodbath in the Balkans looms with
the open civil war between two ethnic groups that
could plunge the entire region into chaos. [3
paragraphs omitted in translation]
So as not to appear as the clear villain, before the
new round of talks began the UCK cleared its forward
positions at Tetovo and withdrew to mountain posts, from
which it can easily strike again. But the separatist
Albanians will do the same if they do not obtain by the
political route what they are actually striving for:
First certified equality as an ethnic group through a
constitutional amendment, then the de facto
division of Macedonia, and finally a greater Albanian
fatherland.
There are reasons behind the outcry of Skopje's head of
government Ljubco Georgievski, himself a dedicated Slav
nationalist, over the West's alleged partisanship. In
this sad spectacle over Macedonia's future the UCK is
the main villain and the Americans play the shady part.
The UCK fighters were once schooled by American and
British trainers in Albanian camps for use against
Milosevic's soldiers in Kosovo. No one knows the main
actors, the UCK's commando structure and its financiers
and arms suppliers as well as the CIA, which keeps the
Albanian secret service close to its side as a subsidiary.
When in February UCK irregulars from Kosovo instigated
skirmishes in the West Macedonian border region,
initially the KFOR peacekeeping troops idly
observed. At that time Prime Minister Georgievski
accused Washington, but also Berlin, of having
withheld key information on planned terrorist
actions. The US government knew of at least 300
rebels, he said.
To confidants German defense minister Rudolf Scharping
complained that the "international community," meaning
first of all the Americans, had "not acted consistently"
and thus "shared responsibility" for the current crisis.
In fact, German soldiers in Macedonia are already
standing between the fronts. Last week they hastily
evacuated a depot in Tetovo when the barracks
was caught in a cross-fire between UCK marksmen and
the Macedonian army.
The great oversight of the Alliance is that, under
Washington's influence, after the air war against the
Serbs it treated the UCK independence fighters
as allies. Top Bundeswehr soldiers internally complain
of the constant camaraderie since 1999.
The Kosovo example: It should not have happened that
after the KFOR troops marched in the UCK made thousands
of guns, pistols and mortars disappear.
German soldiers who acted firmly against UCK members
who were carrying weapons despite the ban were reined
in by their superiors. 'That is not in compliance with
the NATO policy' was their commanders' implicit message.
The earlier UCK supreme commander Hashim Thaci, a protege
of then-US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, put a
few thousand of his fighters in the so-called Kosovo
Defense Corps (KPC for short), a sort of technical
relief organization officially intended to help in
repairing destroyed houses.
German KFOR commander Klaus Reinhardt warned in vain of
new activities by the underground UCK; the Americans
kept flirting with it. Reinhardt later complained that
politicians, diplomats and the NATO supreme commander for
Europe, Wesley Clark, regularly brushed aside warning
cries from the KFOR headquarters in Pristina.
As early as the start of December 1999, when the NATO
peacekeeping force had not yet been in the country for
half a year, KFOR reconnaissance patrols in the Presevo
valley noticed suspicious young Kosovars. The area belongs
to the so-called Ground Safety Zone (GSZ), a demilitarized
buffer zone between the Serbian heartland and Kosovo.
The Americans monitored the main traffic arteries so
loosely that the area quickly became a trading center
for arms runners, drug dealers and traffickers in young
women, controlled by the UCK and mafia. A "Presevo,
Medvedja and Bujanovac Liberation Army" (UCPMB) quickly
occupied villages, drove out Serb residents and called
for annexation to Kosovo.
KFOR leader Reinhardt called in vain on US officers
to act vigorously against illegal border crossers. NATO
supreme commander Clark always merely answered the
warnings about the firebrands in the Presovo valley with
questions about the old enemy: "And where do the Serbs
stand?"
When Serbian security forces moved into the Presevo valley
last March with NATO's consent, many UCK members went over
the land border to Macedonia or back to Kosovo. Scharping
suspiciously asked NATO colleagues how UCK members
were being prevented at checkpoints in the American Kosovo
sector from giving up their weapons but "two kilometers
further are taking up new weapons and continuing on to
Macedonia?" The news tickers gave the answer:
Freshly armed UCK members were again proclaiming "liberated
zones" in Macedonia.
While NATO had long been making plans for the
intervention, including disarming the UCK rebels, in
late June US special units evacuated 400 UCK fighters
from the guerilla stronghold of Aracinovo surrounded
by Macedonian troops, right in front of the gates to
Skopje. Not only UCK fighters found refuge in armored
personnel carriers and buses with KFOR markings, but
also 17 American civilians. They were declared to be
"observers" but instead of dissuading the UCK members
from playing with fire they served them as trainers.
Moreover, thanks to US assistance the UCK's command center
was set up in Aracinovo, with direct satellite phone
connection to the Pentagon. "We have confiscated weapons,"
a police representative said with annoyance in Skopje,
"whose serial numbers clearly indicate NATO resources."
Also videocassettes of Macedonian military positions that
in his opinion had been filmed from KFOR helicopters and
made available to the UCK by the Americans.
A questionable maneuver: In NATO the USA urges the allies
to intervene in Macedonia while at the same time the
Americans are training the UCK, and the Macedonian army
also receives help from Washington as well.
Once again the Germans and the other allies are
irritated at the dual strategy of NATO supremacy.
Reports "of American ex-officers as trainers with the
Macedonian UCK," notes Green Bundestag deputy
Winfried Nachtwei, "once again raise doubts about US
policy in the region." And CDU deputy Willy Wimmer
speculates that the USA is supporting a "greater
Albania well-disposed toward it" in the Balkans,
obviously for strategic reasons.
The suspicion is well-founded. The Berlin government
knows from secret service reports that in Macedonia
the same court clique being pampered by the USA is
stoking the fires of war: Since May the head of the
purportedly civilian Kosovo defense force, Agim Ceku,
has been assembling UCK reservists to prepare them in
Albanian training camps for the new war. The military
supreme command of the Macedonian UCK is under former
Ceku deputy Ramush Haradinaj.
The person procuring the money is a man who already
enjoyed the Americans' trust at the talks in
Rambouillet as a negotiator next to Thaci: Xhavit
Haliti was already collecting donations for the UCK
before the Kosovo war; in recent weeks, the secret
services report, he has collected another 43 million
marks from Albanians in Germany and Switzerland.
The trio of Haliti, Thaci and Haradinaj has not by
any means funded their Kalashnikov policy from
donations alone: "The unrest in Macedonia and the
related instability in the region," a secret service
file states, are "the absolute precondition for their
criminal business" - meaning illicit dealings in
drugs, weapons and young women.
Fed by such facts, the Europeans' pressure on the USA
is clearly beginning to show an impact. In late June
President George W. Bush prohibited 21 UCK leaders
from traveling to the USA and barred US citizens from
money transactions with the extremists. Top people of
the Kosovo Defense Corps were also on the Bush list;
only later were they fired.
Meanwhile, the pathetic praise expressed by Bush for
the American border patrols in a drop-by visit last
week in Kosovo struck Scharping and his military
people as scornful. As Bush said in all seriousness
in his appearance in the fortress-like Camp
Bondsteel, they prevented "weapons from falling into
rebel hands," which is why there is now "hope for
peace" in Macedonia. But Bush also warned the UCK to
keep quiet in neighboring Macedonia: "The Kosovars
should concentrate on Kosovo."
Now the Berlin government is wondering: Is Bush doing
an about-face, or is he once again just lulling the
suspicious NATO partners? After all, at the end of
the day they are the ones to pick up the pieces of
the questionable US policy in Macedonia.
The Americans themselves do not want to send any
combat troops to Macedonia to disarm the UCK. They
feel troops of the European NATO allies should be the
only ones doing the risky dirty work.
But no one knows better than the Americans what the
UCK irregulars are up to. The US force in the Balkans
has low-flying satellites and its own mobile
communication system that enables encrypted telephone
calls. Obviously thus far neither the West European
secret services nor the Russian spy service has
technically succeeded in penetrating and listening in
on this "low-flying satellite-based system."
The UCK, however, can use the Americans' exclusive
communication network with a radio circuit of its
own. As a result, Washington's professional
eavesdroppers are always perfectly well informed when
the Albanian irregulars plan to attack and where they
plan to withdraw.
=======================================================
DER SPIEGEL 31/2001
URL:
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,147569,00.html
Mazedonien
Das Doppelspiel der Amerikaner
Unter den Europ�ern w�chst die Irritation �ber das
zwielichtige Agieren Washingtons auf dem Balkan: Als
Paten der U�K sind die USA mitverantwortlich f�r die
Zuspitzung des Konflikts zwischen Albanern und
Slawo-Mazedoniern.
Unsere Regierung hat uns verkauft, der Westen auch",
schimpft der Slawo-Mazedonier Ljubco, 45. Nachts
schl�ft er mit seiner Familie im gro�en Park der
mazedonischen Hauptstadt Skopje, tags�ber sitzt er
mit Hunderten Vertriebenen unter gl�hender Sonne vor
dem Parlament. "Ihr habt uns verraten", steht auf
einem Transparent. Bis Anfang vorvergangener Woche
neun Granaten bei seinem Haus einschlugen, hatte
Ljubcos Familie in einem Vorort von Tetovo gewohnt,
der Albaner-Hochburg im Westen der zwei Millionen
Einwohner z�hlenden Mini-Republik. F�nf Monate lang
hatte sie Schie�ereien ertragen, die fast jede Nacht
aus den Bergen herunter-hallten.
Dort oben nisteten Sto�trupps der albanischen
Befreiungsarmee U�K. "Oft haben wir uns gefragt:
Kommen die jetzt und bringen uns um?", berichtet
Ljubco, dem in diesen f�nf Monaten das Vertrauen zu
seinen albanischen Nachbarn abhanden kam, "denn die
hatten sich l�ngst mit der U�K solidarisiert und
wollen Westmazedonien ethnisch von uns s�ubern."
Dann die Granaten, die Panik und Flucht. Wie Ljubco
verlie�en bis Mitte voriger Woche mehrere tausend
Slawo-Mazedonier ver�ngstigt nur mit ein paar
Habseligkeiten ihre D�rfer um Tetovo. Viele, die
keine Verwandten zum Unterschlupf haben, strandeten
in Skopje. Dort kam es zu Protestz�gen,
nationalistischen Gewaltaktionen und antiwestlichen
Demonstrationen, wurden Fahrzeuge internationaler
Organisationen in Brand gesetzt, die Botschaften
Deutschlands, Gro�britanniens und der USA mit
Steinw�rfen attackiert.
Verst�rt blickt Europa in seinen s�d�stlichen
Hinterhof. Erneut glimmt dort die Lunte f�r eine
ethnische Explosion. Nach der Dekade der
jugoslawischen Erbfolgekriege, die nahezu 300 000
Menschenleben forderten, droht nun mit dem offenen
B�rgerkrieg zweier Volksgruppen ein weiteres Blutbad
auf dem Balkan, das die gesamte Region ins Chaos
st�rzen k�nnte.
Mazedonien balanciere "auf des Messers Schneide",
warnte Nato-Generalsekret�r George Robertson.
Gemeinsam mit einer Garde von EU-Vermittlern
versuchte der Brite Ende voriger Woche verbissen in
Verhandlungen, doch noch eine politische �bereinkunft
zwischen den zerstrittenen Volksgruppen
herbeizuf�hren. Denn nur mit �u�erstem
internationalem Druck scheint in Europas historischem
Pulverfass ein weiterer, sich mit erschreckender
Dynamik aufpumpender Konflikt noch abwendbar zu sein.
Und nur bei einer soliden politischen �bereinkunft
sowie einem dauerhaften Waffenstillstand w�re die
Nato bereit, eine Friedenstruppe von 3000 Mann -
darunter wohl auch 500 deutsche Soldaten - ins Land
zu schicken und die Waffen albanischer Freisch�rler
einzusammeln.
Aber ein auf dem Balkan geschlossener Burgfrieden,
das lehrt die historische Erfahrung, ist br�chig.
Drei Granaten, abgefeuert von Extremisten, k�nnen ihn
jederzeit torpedieren. "Das Selbstverst�ndnis der
V�lker ist f�r viele wichtiger als alles andere",
sagt der deutsche Nato-Botschafterin Skopje,
Hans-J�rg Eiff, ein ausgewiesener Balkan-Kenner, und
er meint damit: Symbolische Fragen sind hier
wichtiger als ein paar tausend Tote.
Um nicht als der eindeutige B�sewicht dazustehen,
hatte die U�K vor Beginn der neuen Verhandlungsrunde
ihre vordersten Positionen bei Tetovo ger�umt und
sich auf Bergstellungen zur�ckgezogen. Von denen aus
kann sie ohne Schwierigkeiten erneut zuschlagen. Das
aber werden die separatistischen Albaner auch tun,
wenn sie auf dem politischen Weg nicht kriegen, was
sie in Wahrheit anstreben: zun�chst die durch
Verfassungs�nderung verbriefte Gleichstellung als
Volksgruppe, dann die De-facto-Teilung Mazedoniens
und schlie�lich ein gro�albanisches Vaterland.
Der Aufschrei von Skopjes Regierungschef Ljubco
Georgievski, selbst ein hartleibiger
Slawo-Nationalist, �ber die angebliche Parteinahme
des Westens hat seine Gr�nde. In diesem tr�ben Spiel
um die Zukunft Mazedoniens ist die U�K der
Hauptschurke, und die Amerikaner geben den
zwielichtigen Part.
Die K�mpfer der U�K wurden einst von amerikanischen
und britischen Ausbildern in albanischen Camps f�r
den Einsatz gegen Milosevics Soldaten im Kosovo
trainiert. Keiner kennt die wichtigsten Akteure, die
Kommandostruktur der U�K sowie deren Finanziers und
Waffenlieferanten so gut wie die CIA, die sich den
albanischen Geheimdienst nebenher als Filiale h�lt.
Als im Februar U�K-Freisch�rler vom Kosovo aus
Scharm�tzel in der westmazedonischen Grenzregion
anzettelten, schaute die Kfor-Friedenstruppe zun�chst
tatenlos zu. W�tend warf Premier Georgievski damals
Washington - aber auch Berlin - vor, wesentliche
Informationen �ber geplante terroristische Aktionen
zur�ckgehalten zu haben. Mindestens 300 Rebellen
seien der US-Regierung bekannt gewesen.
Vor Vertrauten schimpfte Bundesverteidigungsminister
Rudolf Scharping, die "internationale Gemeinschaft" -
gemeint sind vor allem die Amerikaner - habe sich
"nicht konsequent verhalten". Sie trage deshalb
"Mitverantwortung" f�r die aktuelle Krise.
Tats�chlich stehen deutsche Soldaten in Mazedonien
bereits jetzt zwischen den Fronten. Vergangene Woche
r�umten sie fluchtartig ein Depot in Tetovo, als die
Kaserne ins Kreuzfeuer von U�K-Sch�tzen und
mazedonischer Armee geriet.
Das gro�e Vers�umnis der Allianz: Unter dem Einfluss
Washingtons verfuhr sie nach dem Luftkrieg gegen die
Serben mit den Unabh�ngigkeitsk�mpfern der U�K wie
mit Verb�ndeten. F�hrende Bundeswehr-Milit�rs
beklagen intern die seit 1999 ungebrochene
Kameraderie.
Beispiel Kosovo: Es h�tte nicht sein m�ssen, dass die
U�K nach dem Einmarsch der Kfor-Truppen Tausende
Gewehre, Pistolen und M�rser verschwinden lie�.
Deutsche Soldaten, die rigoros gegen U�K-Leute
vorgingen, die trotz Verbots Waffen trugen, wurden
von oben zur�ckgepfiffen. Das entspreche nicht der
Nato-Linie, lie�en ihre Kommandeure durchblicken.
Der fr�here U�K-Oberbefehlshaber Hashim Tha�i, ein
Proteg� der damaligen US-Au�enministerin Madeleine
Albright, brachte einige tausend seiner K�mpfer im so
genannten Kosovo-Schutzkorps (K�rzel: KPC) unter -
einer Art technischem Hilfswerk, das offiziell beim
Herrichten zerst�rter H�user behilflich sein soll.
Vergebens warnte der deutsche Kfor-Kommandeur Klaus
Reinhardt vor neuen Umtrieben der Untergrund-U�K. Die
Amerikaner blieben auf Schmusekurs. Politiker,
Diplomaten und der Nato-Oberbefehlshaber f�r Europa,
Wesley Clark, so beschwerte sich Reinhardt sp�ter,
wischten Alarmrufe aus dem Kfor-Hauptquartier in
Pristina regelm��ig beiseite.
Bereits Anfang Dezember 1999, die Nato-Friedenstruppe
war noch kein halbes Jahr im Land, fielen
Kfor-Sp�hern im Presovo-Tal verd�chtige junge
Kosovaren auf. Die Gegend geh�rt zur so genannten
Ground Safety Zone (GSZ), einer entmilitarisierten
Pufferzone zwischen dem serbischen Kernland und dem
Kosovo.
An den Hauptverkehrsadern kontrollierten die
Amerikaner so lax, dass das Gebiet rasch zum
Umschlagplatz f�r Waffenschieber, Drogendealer und
M�dchenh�ndler wurde - beherrscht von U�K und Mafia.
Prompt besetzte eine "Befreiungsarmee Presovo,
Medvedja und Bujanovac" (U�PMB) D�rfer, vertrieb
serbische Bewohner und verlangte den Anschluss an das
Kosovo.
Erfolglos forderte Kfor-Chef Reinhardt US-Offiziere
auf, energisch gegen illegale Grenzg�nger
einzuschreiten. Nato-Oberbefehlshaber Clark
quittierte die Warnungen vor den Brandstiftern im
Presovo-Tal stets nur mit Fragen nach dem alten
Kriegsgegner: "Und wo stehen da die Serben?"
Als serbische Sicherheitskr�fte mit Einverst�ndnis
der Nato vergangenen M�rz in das Presovo-Tal
einr�ckten, gingen viele U�K-Leute �ber die gr�ne
Grenze nach Mazedonien oder zur�ck in das Kosovo.
Argw�hnisch fragte Scharping Nato-Kollegen, wie
verhindert werde, dass U�K-Leute an Kontrollposten im
amerikanischen Kosovo-Sektor ihre Waffen abgeben,
aber "zwei Kilometer weiter neue Waffen aufnehmen und
nach Mazedonien weiterziehen?" Die Antwort lieferten
die Nachrichten-Ticker: Frisch bewaffnete U�K-Leute
riefen in Mazedonien erneut "befreite Zonen" aus.
W�hrend die Nato l�ngst Pl�ne f�r das Eingreifen samt
Entwaffnung der U�K-Rebellen schmiedete, evakuierten
US-Spezialeinheiten Ende Juni 400 U�K-K�mpfer aus der
von mazedonischen Truppen eingeschlossenen
Guerrilla-Hochburg Aracinovo, unmittelbar vor den
Toren Skopjes. Nicht nur U�K-K�mpfer fanden Zuflucht
in Sch�tzenpanzern und Bussen mit Kfor-Bemalung,
sondern auch 17 amerikanische Zivilisten. Die waren
zwar als "Beobachter" deklariert. Aber statt die
U�K-Leute vom Z�ndeln abzubringen, dienten sie
ihnen als Ausbilder.
In Aracinovo soll dank US-Assistenz zudem die
Befehlszentrale der U�K installiert gewesen sein -
mit direkter Satellitentelefonverbindung ins
Pentagon. "Wir haben Waffen beschlagnahmt", �rgert
sich in Skopje ein Polizeivertreter, "deren
Seriennummern eindeutig auf Nato-Ressourcen
hinwiesen." Au�erdem Videokassetten mazedonischer
Milit�rstellungen, die seiner Meinung nach von
Kfor-Hubschraubern aufgenommen und der U�K von den
Amerikanern zur Verf�gung gestellt wurden.
Ein fragw�rdiges Man�ver: In der Nato dr�ngen die USA
die Verb�ndeten zum Eingreifen in Mazedonien,
zugleich trainieren Amerikaner die U�K - und nebenbei
erh�lt auch die mazedonische Armee Hilfe aus
Washington.
Einmal mehr sind die Deutschen und die �brigen
Verb�ndeten �ber die Doppelstrategie der
Nato-Vormacht irritiert. Berichte "�ber amerikanische
Ex-Offiziere als Ausbilder bei der mazedonischen
U�K", urteilt der Gr�nen-Bundestagsabgeordnete
Winfried Nachtwei, "sch�ren erneut Zweifel an der
US-Politik in der Region". Und der CDU-Abgeordnete
Willy Wimmer mutma�t, die USA unterst�tzten
offensichtlich aus strategischen Gr�nden auf dem
Balkan ein "ihnen wohlgesinntes Gro�albanien".
Der Verdacht ist begr�ndet. Aus Geheimdienstberichten
wei� die Berliner Regierung, dass in Mazedonien
wieder die gleiche Kamarilla den Krieg anheizt, die
von den USA geh�tschelt wurde: Der Chef der
vorgeblich zivilen Kosovo-Schutztruppe, Agim �eku,
sammelt demnach seit Mai U�K-Reservisten, um sie in
albanischen Ausbildungscamps f�r den neuen Krieg zu
trainieren. Dem vormaligen �eku-Stellvertreter Ramush
Haradinaj untersteht das milit�rische Oberkommando
der mazedonischen U�K.
Als Geldbeschaffer fungiert ein Mann, der bereits bei
den Gespr�chen in Rambouillet neben Tha�i als
Unterh�ndler das Vertrauen der Amerikaner genoss:
Xhavit Haliti sammelte schon vor dem Kosovo-Krieg
Spenden f�r die U�K; in den vergangenen Wochen,
berichten die Geheimdienste, tribe er bei Albanern in
Deutschland und der Schweiz wieder satte 43 Millionen
Mark f�r die Kriegskasse ein.
Das Trio Haliti, Tha�i und Haradinaj finanziert seine
Politik der Kalaschnikow keineswegs nur aus Spenden:
"Die Unruhen in Mazedonien und die damit verbundene
Instabilit�t in der Region", hei�t es in einem
Geheimdienst-Dossier, seien "absolute Voraussetzung
f�r ihre kriminellen Gesch�fte" - gemeint sind
schmutzige Deals mit Drogen, Waffen und M�dchen.
Gespeist durch solche Fakten, beginnt der Druck der
Europ�er auf die USA offenbar Wirkung zu zeigen. Ende
Juni untersagte Pr�sident George W. Bush 21
U�K-F�hrern, in die USA einzureisen und verbot
US-B�rgern Geldgesch�fte mit den Extremisten. Auf der
Bush-Liste fanden sich auch Topleute des
Kosovo-Schutzkorps. Danach erst wurden sie gefeuert.
Wie Hohn erschien Scharping und seinen Milit�rs indes
das pathetische Lob, das Bush vergangene Woche bei
einer Stippvisite im Kosovo f�r die amerikanischen
Grenzpatrouillen aussprach. Die h�tten verhindert, so
Bush bei seinem Auftritt im festungsartigen Camp
Bondsteel allen Ernstes, "dass Waffen in
Rebellenh�nde fallen" - weshalb es nun eine "Hoffnung
auf Frieden" in Mazedonien gebe. Bush ermahnte aber
auch die U�K, im Nachbarland Mazedonien Ruhe zu
geben: "Die Kosovaren sollten sich auf das Kosovo
konzentrieren."
Nun r�tselt die Berliner Regierung: Leitet Bush eine
Kehrtwende ein, oder geht es wieder einmal nur darum,
die argw�hnischen Nato-Partner einzulullen? Die
sollen ja schlie�lich in Mazedonien die Scherben der
fragw�rdigen US-Politik aufklauben.
Die Amerikaner selbst wollen zur Entwaffnung der U�K
keine Kampftruppen nach Mazedonien schicken. Die
riskante Drecksarbeit sollen Soldaten der
europ�ischen Nato-Verb�ndeten allein leisten.
Niemand aber wei� besser als die Amerikaner, was die
U�K-Freisch�rler im Schilde f�hren. Die US-Truppe auf
dem Balkan verf�gt mit niedrig fliegenden Satelliten
�ber ein eigenes, mobiles Kommunikationssystem. Darin
l�sst sich verschl�sselt telefonieren. Weder
westeurop�ischen Geheimdiensten noch dem russischen
Spionagedienst gelang es bislang offenbar, in dieses
"low-flying satellite based system" technisch als
Mith�rer einzudringen.
Die U�K aber darf das exklusive Kommunikationsnetz
der Amerikaner mit einem eigenen Funkkreis nutzen.
Washingtons professionelle Lauscher sind somit stets
bestens informiert, wann die albanischen Freisch�rler
zur Attacke und wo sie zum R�ckzug blasen.
RENATE FLOTTAU, OLAF IHLAU, SUSANNE KOELBL, ALEXANDER
SZANDAR
� DER SPIEGEL 31/2001
Alle Rechte vorbehalten
Vervielf�ltigung nur mit Genehmigung der SPIEGELnet AG
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FREE MILOSEVIC, SAYS PINTER
Fiachra Gibbons, arts correspondent
Thursday July 26, 2001
Front Page
The Guardian
The playwright Harold Pinter has joined a
campaign to free the former Serb leader Slobodan
Milosevic.
Pinter, who was a fierce opponent of the Nato
bombing of Serbia and once defined US policy to
the former Yugoslavia as "kiss my arse or I'll
kick your head in", said that Mr Milosevic's
extradition to face trial at the war crimes
tribunal in the Hague was illegal.
"I believe his arrest and detention by the
international criminal tribunal is
unconstitutional, and goes against Yugoslav and
international law. They have no right to try
him," he said.
His decision to lend his name to the
International Committee to Defend Slobodan
Milosevic, a loose coalition of leftwingers,
human rights activists and Serb sympathisers
formed in March, follows years of criticism of
what he sees as the west's selective morality in
the Balkans and its "persecution" of ordinary
Serbs.
Although he believes that Mr Milosevic was
"ruthless and savage", he has long argued that he
has been unfairly demonised as the "butcher of
the Balkans". He blames his former
vice-president, the ultra-nationalist Vojislav
Seselj, for much of the ethnic cleansing.
Pinter also says that if Mr Milosevic is to be
tried, former US president Bill Clinton should
join him in the dock for dropping millions of
"cluster bombs that cut children to pieces - from
those brave bombers at 15,000ft. And this is an
act which [Tony] Blair, with his moralistic
Christianity, applauds".
He also said the bombing of the Yugoslavian
television station in Belgrade by Nato was
"murder" and made him "ashamed of being British".
Although Pinter - currently working at a festival
of his work in New York - has not given any money
to the Milosevic defence fund, the committee
hopes to start raising cash soon.
---
Subject: Fw: Milosevic
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:09:34 -0400
From: "Christopher Black"
A letter the Toronto Star still has refused to
publish even though they pursue me for stories.
The letter was in response to a vicious
propaganda piece against Milosevic and the Serbs
they ran as an editorial.
DEFEND MACEDONIA! STOP THE NATO JACKBOOT!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Black
To: lettertoed@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:32 AM
Subject: Milosevic
The Editor,
Toronto Star
Your piece on Milosevic entitled "No place To
Hide" constitutes nothing less than criminal
journalism. A series of lies from beginning to
end, it attempts to control public opinion about
the truth of events in Yuglosavia in order to
justify the criminal aggression by Canada and the
other Nato countries on the last progressive
country in eastern Europe and cover the war
crimes of Chretien and Arbour and the rest of
gangsters who pretend to control the New World
Order.
Mr. Milosevic was never "undisputed master" of
Yugoslavia. He was duly elected in popular
elections unlike President Bush in the United
States who was installed against the popular
will. He was never a notorious nationalst as you
claim and never seduced his people with dreams of
a greater Serbia. In every speech and in his
actions he did what he could to preserve a
multiethnic state against the Machiavellian
scheming of the United States and Germany which
promoted the Albanian's bloody thirst for a
Greater Albania, a blood soaked ambition fuelled
and directed by the United States and its axis
and which is today destroying Macedonia and
threatens Greece.
It was not Milosevic who delivered ethnic hatred.
It was Nato and its tightly controlled media that
sowed that hatred with every press release and
every article.
It was not Milosevic who brought war and
disintegration, sanctions and ruin. It was the
United States and Germany, Britain and Canada and
the rest of the Nato gangsters who decided to
destroy the last progressive government in the
east for the benefit of their economic elites.
It was not Milosevic who dropped bombs. It was
the cowards in the armed forces of all the Nato
countries who failed in their duty to defy
illegal and immoral orders and instead dropped
cluster bombs on innocent women and children. It
was not Milosevic who destroyed international
law. It was Chretien and the rest of Nato. It was
not Milosevic who has contempt for the rule of
law and democracy. It is every leader of every
governmnent in Nato who never consulted their own
people before attacking a small innocent country,
and who broke their own domestic laws in that
attack.
Where were you when Chretien broke the law in the
National Defence Act which forbids the use of the
Canadian Armed Forces to attack another country
unless attacked first or under UN mandate? Where
were you Chretien lied to the Canadian people
about the reality in the Balkans? Where were you
when Chretien and the rest broke the UN Charter
and threw it in the mud? Where were you when they
destroyed every principle established at
Nurmberg,in the Geneva Conventions and in dozens
of other international protocols.
You talk about the "reformist" government" in
Belgrade when in truth it is a fascist regime
which has shut down the oppositon press, arrested
hundreds of people on political charges and fired
over 40,000 people in a population of only 11
million from jobs in factories, government,
schools, hospitals, unions who had any
progressive or patriotic beliefs.
You praise Louise Arbour whose crass political
indictment of Milosevic on May 27, 1999 occurred
under US instruction at a point at which the Nato
alliance was fracturing and domestic support for
the bombing was waning. Her action justified the
continued violation of international law and
criminal aggression against a sovereign state
whose only crime was to resist the diktats of
Madaleine Albright. You praise a woman who
refused to investigate Chretien and other Nato
leaders for war crimes as lawyers and jurists
around the world insisted, including the group of
Canadian lawyers of whom I was one lead by
Professor Michael Mandel. Far from shattering
Milosevic's credibility, the indictment against
him by Arbour shattered completely the
credibility of the Hague Tribunal viewed around
the world by esteemed jurists as a kangaroo court
partly funded by people like George Soros, who
also just happened to fund the KLA at the same
time.
Milosevic is not a broken man. I visited with
President Milosevic in the Belgrade Central
Prison on June 15 and again on July 12, in The
Hague, as a representative of the International
Committee To Defend Slobadan Milosevic. The
Committee is composed of jurists, writers,
scientists, politicians, professors and other
esteemed citizens from over 20 countries who are
convinced that the charges against Milosevic are
false and a slander against the people of
Yugoslavia and an insult to the intelligence of
the people in the Nato countries. It includes
members such as the great British playwright
Harold Pinter, and the former Attorney general of
the Untied States, Ramsay Clark.
Mr. Milosevic is in good spirits. He is not
suicidal. That is a lie put out to explain in
advance his possible murder at the hands of the
Nato Quislings presently in power in Belgrade
because they know very well that any trial before
the Hague tribunal will be an embarrassment for
Nato because there is no evidence of crimes that
never took place except in the pages of the
western press ever anxious to please the economic
powers that own them and who are linked with the
governments that want to eliminate those, like
Milosevic who have the courage to defy them.
Milosevic told me one thing he wanted the world
to know. He has a clear conscience. He stated to
me, "The only reasons I am in this prison are
because I am a socialist and because I stood up
to Nato. I am a political prisoner." The
corruption charges against him are false. The
Investigative Judge told me that there is no
evidence of any criminal wrongdoing by Mr.
Milosevic at all and that he is detained because
of strong political pressure until he can be
handed over to Carla Del Ponte. A Ministry of
Justice official told me that there is no
evidence against him but that I must understand
that "there are many members of the new regime
who would like to see all the socialists hanged
from lampposts."
The Toronto Star which prides itself on its
liberalism and support of democracy is so blinded
by its subservience to its masters that it openly
supports the decree stating that Milosevic can be
extradited despite the fact that the Yugoslavian
parliament opposed the extradition law that
Kostunica tried to pass and the Djindjic decree
was suspended by the Constituional Court.
Apparently, the Star's support of democracy only
goes so far. When the Yugoslav parliament opposes
the extradition, an unconstitutional decree,
which openly violates the will of the people and
the Yugoslav constitution, is praised as
courageous. When Nato and Chretien violated and
threw under the Nato jackboot every international
law you said nothing. Still you say nothing and
still you want Canadians to believe that
Milosevic's extradition is a shining example of
the benefits of international law. Hypocrisy we
know your name.
Christopher Black, Barrister
Head, Legal Committee
International Committee To Defend Slobodan Milosevic
Toronto, Ontario
---
Subject: U.S. CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: A BAD OMEN
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:37:31 +0200
From: TARGETS <redactie@...>
To: office@...
U.S. CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: A BAD OMEN
The trial of Slobodan Milosevic threatens U.S.
sovereignty. The fact that this trial can be
carried out, in the name of international
justice, should cause all the Americans to cast a
wary eye on the whole principal of the U.N. War
Crimes Tribunal. The prosecution of Milosevic, a
democratically elected and properly disposed
leader of a sovereign country, could not be
carried out without full U.S. military and
financial support. Since we are the only world
superpower, the U.N. court becomes our court
under our control. But it is naive to believe our
world superpower status will last forever. The
precedence now being set will one day surely come
back to haunt us.
The U.S. today may enjoy dictating policy to
Yugoslavia and elsewhere around the world, but
danger lurks ahead. The administration adamantly
and correctly opposes our membership in the
permanent International Criminal Court because it
would have authority to exercise jurisdiction
over U.S. citizens without the consent of the
U.S. government. But how can we, with a straight
face, support doing the very same thing to a
small country, in opposition to its sovereignty,
courts, and constitution. This blatant
inconsistency and illicit use of force does not
go unnoticed and will sow the seeds of future
terrorist attacks against Americans or even war.
Money, as usual, is behind the Milosevic's
extradition. Bribing Serbian Prime Minister Zoran
Djindjic, a U.S.-sponsored leader, prompted
strong opposition from Yugoslavian Prime Minister
Zoran Zizic and Yugoslavian President Vojislav
Kostunica.
A Belgrade historian, Aleksa Djilas, was quoted
in The New York Times as saying: "We sold him for
money, and we won't really get very much money
for it. The U.S. is the natural leader of the
world, but how does it lead? This justifies the
worst American instincts, reinforcing this
bullying mentality.''
Milosevic obviously is no saint but neither are
the leader of the Croats, the Albanians or the
KLA. The NATO leaders who vastly expanded the
death and destruction in Yugoslavia with 78 days
of bombing in 1999 are certainly not blameless.
The $1.28 billion promised the puppet Yugoslavian
government is to be used to rebuild the cities
devastated by U.S. bombs. First, the American
people are forced to pay to bomb, to kill
innocent people and destroy cities, and then they
are forced to pay to repair the destruction,
while orchestrating a U.N. kangaroo court to
bring the guilty to justice at the Hague.
For all this to be accepted, the press and
internationalists have had to demonize Milosevic
to distance themselves from the horrors of others
including NATO.
NATO's air strikes assisted the KLA in cleansing
Kosovo of Serbs in the name of assisting Albanian
freedom fighters. No one should be surprised when
that is interpreted to mean tacit approval for
Albanian expansionism in Macedonia. While
terrorist attacks by former members of the KLA
against Serbs are ignored, the trial of the new
millennium, the trial of Milosevic, enjoys daily
support from the NATO-U.S. propaganda machine.
In our effort to stop an independent-minded and
uncooperative with the international community
president of a sovereign country, U.S. policy was
designed to support an equally if not worse
organization, the KLA. One of the conditions for
ending the civil war in Kosovo was the disbanding
of the KLA. But the very same ruthless leaders of
the KLA, now the Liberation Army of Presevo, are
now leading the insurrection in Macedonia without
NATO lifting a finger to stop it. NATO's failed
policy that precipitated the conflict now raging
in Macedonia is ignored. The U.N. War Tribunal
in the Hague should insult the intelligence of
all Americans. This court currently can only
achieve arrest and prosecution of leaders of
poor, small, or defeated nations. There will be
no war criminals brought to the Hague from China,
Russia, Britain, or the United States no matter
what the charges. But some day this approach to
world governing will backfire. The U.S. already
has suffered the humiliation of being kicked off
the U.N. Human Rights Commission and the
Narcotics Control Commission. Our arrogant policy
and attitude of superiority will continue to
elicit a smoldering hatred toward us and out of
sheer frustration will motivate even more
terrorist attacks against us.
Realizing the weakness of the charges against
Milosevic the court has quietly dropped the
charges for committing genocide. In a real trial,
evidence that the British and the United States
actually did business with Milosevic would be
permitted. But almost always, whoever is our
current most hated enemy, has received help and
assistance from us in the past. This was
certainly the case with Noriega and Saddam
Hussein and others, and now it's Milosevic.
Milosevic will be tried not before a jury of his
peers but before a panel of politically appointed
judges, all of whom were approved by the NATO
countries, the same countries which illegally
bombed Yugoslavia for 2 1/2 months. Under both
U.N. and international law the bombing of Serbia
and Kosovo was illegal. This was why NATO pursued
it and it was not done under a U.N. resolution.
Ironically, the mess in which we've been engaged
in Yugoslavia has the international establishment
supporting the side of Kosovo independence rather
than Serbian sovereignty. The principle of
independence and secession of smaller government
entities has been enhanced by the breakdown of
the Soviet system. If there's any hope that any
good could come of the quagmire into which we've
rapidly sunk in the Balkans, it is that small
independent nations are a viable and reasonable
option to conflicts around the world. But the
tragedy today is that no government is allowed to
exist without the blessing of the One World
Government leaders. The disobedience to the one
worlders and true independence is not to be
tolerated. That's what this trial is all about.
"Tow the line or else,'' is the message that is
being sent to the world.
NATO and U.S. leaders insist on playing with
fire, not fully understanding the significance of
the events now transpiring in the Balkans. If
policy is not quickly reversed, events could get
out of control and a major war in the region will
erupt.
We should fear and condemn any effort to escalate
the conflict with troops or money from any
outside sources. Our troops are already involved
and our money calls the shots. Extricating
ourselves will get more difficult every day we
stay. But the sooner we get out the better. We
should be listening more to candidate George
Bush's suggestion during the last campaign for
bringing our troops home from this region.
The Serbs, despite NATO's propaganda, will not
lightly accept the imprisonment of their
democratically elected (and properly disposed)
president no matter how bad he was. It is their
problem to deal with and resentment against us
will surely grow as conditions deteriorate. Mobs
have already attacked the American ambassador to
Macedonia for our inept interference in the
region. Death of American citizens are sure to
come if we persist in this failed policy.
Money and power has permitted the United States
the luxury of dictating terms for Milosevic's
prosecution, but our policy of arbitrary
interventions in the Balkans is sowing the seeds
of tomorrow's war. We cannot have it both ways.
We cannot expect to use the International
Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia when it pleases
us and oppose the permanent International
Criminal Court where the rules would apply to our
own acts of aggression. This cynical and arrogant
approach, whether it's dealing with Milosevic,
Hussein, or Kadafi, undermines peace and presents
a threat to our national security. Meanwhile,
American citizens must suffer the tax burden from
financing the dangerous meddling in European
affairs, while exposing our troops to danger.
A policy of nonintervention, friendship and
neutrality with all nations, engagement in true
free trade (unsubsidized trade with low tariffs)
is the best policy if we truly seek peace around
the world. That used to be the American way.
CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL (R-TEXAS)
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Fiachra Gibbons, arts correspondent
Thursday July 26, 2001
Front Page
The Guardian
The playwright Harold Pinter has joined a
campaign to free the former Serb leader Slobodan
Milosevic.
Pinter, who was a fierce opponent of the Nato
bombing of Serbia and once defined US policy to
the former Yugoslavia as "kiss my arse or I'll
kick your head in", said that Mr Milosevic's
extradition to face trial at the war crimes
tribunal in the Hague was illegal.
"I believe his arrest and detention by the
international criminal tribunal is
unconstitutional, and goes against Yugoslav and
international law. They have no right to try
him," he said.
His decision to lend his name to the
International Committee to Defend Slobodan
Milosevic, a loose coalition of leftwingers,
human rights activists and Serb sympathisers
formed in March, follows years of criticism of
what he sees as the west's selective morality in
the Balkans and its "persecution" of ordinary
Serbs.
Although he believes that Mr Milosevic was
"ruthless and savage", he has long argued that he
has been unfairly demonised as the "butcher of
the Balkans". He blames his former
vice-president, the ultra-nationalist Vojislav
Seselj, for much of the ethnic cleansing.
Pinter also says that if Mr Milosevic is to be
tried, former US president Bill Clinton should
join him in the dock for dropping millions of
"cluster bombs that cut children to pieces - from
those brave bombers at 15,000ft. And this is an
act which [Tony] Blair, with his moralistic
Christianity, applauds".
He also said the bombing of the Yugoslavian
television station in Belgrade by Nato was
"murder" and made him "ashamed of being British".
Although Pinter - currently working at a festival
of his work in New York - has not given any money
to the Milosevic defence fund, the committee
hopes to start raising cash soon.
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Subject: Fw: Milosevic
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:09:34 -0400
From: "Christopher Black"
A letter the Toronto Star still has refused to
publish even though they pursue me for stories.
The letter was in response to a vicious
propaganda piece against Milosevic and the Serbs
they ran as an editorial.
DEFEND MACEDONIA! STOP THE NATO JACKBOOT!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Black
To: lettertoed@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:32 AM
Subject: Milosevic
The Editor,
Toronto Star
Your piece on Milosevic entitled "No place To
Hide" constitutes nothing less than criminal
journalism. A series of lies from beginning to
end, it attempts to control public opinion about
the truth of events in Yuglosavia in order to
justify the criminal aggression by Canada and the
other Nato countries on the last progressive
country in eastern Europe and cover the war
crimes of Chretien and Arbour and the rest of
gangsters who pretend to control the New World
Order.
Mr. Milosevic was never "undisputed master" of
Yugoslavia. He was duly elected in popular
elections unlike President Bush in the United
States who was installed against the popular
will. He was never a notorious nationalst as you
claim and never seduced his people with dreams of
a greater Serbia. In every speech and in his
actions he did what he could to preserve a
multiethnic state against the Machiavellian
scheming of the United States and Germany which
promoted the Albanian's bloody thirst for a
Greater Albania, a blood soaked ambition fuelled
and directed by the United States and its axis
and which is today destroying Macedonia and
threatens Greece.
It was not Milosevic who delivered ethnic hatred.
It was Nato and its tightly controlled media that
sowed that hatred with every press release and
every article.
It was not Milosevic who brought war and
disintegration, sanctions and ruin. It was the
United States and Germany, Britain and Canada and
the rest of the Nato gangsters who decided to
destroy the last progressive government in the
east for the benefit of their economic elites.
It was not Milosevic who dropped bombs. It was
the cowards in the armed forces of all the Nato
countries who failed in their duty to defy
illegal and immoral orders and instead dropped
cluster bombs on innocent women and children. It
was not Milosevic who destroyed international
law. It was Chretien and the rest of Nato. It was
not Milosevic who has contempt for the rule of
law and democracy. It is every leader of every
governmnent in Nato who never consulted their own
people before attacking a small innocent country,
and who broke their own domestic laws in that
attack.
Where were you when Chretien broke the law in the
National Defence Act which forbids the use of the
Canadian Armed Forces to attack another country
unless attacked first or under UN mandate? Where
were you Chretien lied to the Canadian people
about the reality in the Balkans? Where were you
when Chretien and the rest broke the UN Charter
and threw it in the mud? Where were you when they
destroyed every principle established at
Nurmberg,in the Geneva Conventions and in dozens
of other international protocols.
You talk about the "reformist" government" in
Belgrade when in truth it is a fascist regime
which has shut down the oppositon press, arrested
hundreds of people on political charges and fired
over 40,000 people in a population of only 11
million from jobs in factories, government,
schools, hospitals, unions who had any
progressive or patriotic beliefs.
You praise Louise Arbour whose crass political
indictment of Milosevic on May 27, 1999 occurred
under US instruction at a point at which the Nato
alliance was fracturing and domestic support for
the bombing was waning. Her action justified the
continued violation of international law and
criminal aggression against a sovereign state
whose only crime was to resist the diktats of
Madaleine Albright. You praise a woman who
refused to investigate Chretien and other Nato
leaders for war crimes as lawyers and jurists
around the world insisted, including the group of
Canadian lawyers of whom I was one lead by
Professor Michael Mandel. Far from shattering
Milosevic's credibility, the indictment against
him by Arbour shattered completely the
credibility of the Hague Tribunal viewed around
the world by esteemed jurists as a kangaroo court
partly funded by people like George Soros, who
also just happened to fund the KLA at the same
time.
Milosevic is not a broken man. I visited with
President Milosevic in the Belgrade Central
Prison on June 15 and again on July 12, in The
Hague, as a representative of the International
Committee To Defend Slobadan Milosevic. The
Committee is composed of jurists, writers,
scientists, politicians, professors and other
esteemed citizens from over 20 countries who are
convinced that the charges against Milosevic are
false and a slander against the people of
Yugoslavia and an insult to the intelligence of
the people in the Nato countries. It includes
members such as the great British playwright
Harold Pinter, and the former Attorney general of
the Untied States, Ramsay Clark.
Mr. Milosevic is in good spirits. He is not
suicidal. That is a lie put out to explain in
advance his possible murder at the hands of the
Nato Quislings presently in power in Belgrade
because they know very well that any trial before
the Hague tribunal will be an embarrassment for
Nato because there is no evidence of crimes that
never took place except in the pages of the
western press ever anxious to please the economic
powers that own them and who are linked with the
governments that want to eliminate those, like
Milosevic who have the courage to defy them.
Milosevic told me one thing he wanted the world
to know. He has a clear conscience. He stated to
me, "The only reasons I am in this prison are
because I am a socialist and because I stood up
to Nato. I am a political prisoner." The
corruption charges against him are false. The
Investigative Judge told me that there is no
evidence of any criminal wrongdoing by Mr.
Milosevic at all and that he is detained because
of strong political pressure until he can be
handed over to Carla Del Ponte. A Ministry of
Justice official told me that there is no
evidence against him but that I must understand
that "there are many members of the new regime
who would like to see all the socialists hanged
from lampposts."
The Toronto Star which prides itself on its
liberalism and support of democracy is so blinded
by its subservience to its masters that it openly
supports the decree stating that Milosevic can be
extradited despite the fact that the Yugoslavian
parliament opposed the extradition law that
Kostunica tried to pass and the Djindjic decree
was suspended by the Constituional Court.
Apparently, the Star's support of democracy only
goes so far. When the Yugoslav parliament opposes
the extradition, an unconstitutional decree,
which openly violates the will of the people and
the Yugoslav constitution, is praised as
courageous. When Nato and Chretien violated and
threw under the Nato jackboot every international
law you said nothing. Still you say nothing and
still you want Canadians to believe that
Milosevic's extradition is a shining example of
the benefits of international law. Hypocrisy we
know your name.
Christopher Black, Barrister
Head, Legal Committee
International Committee To Defend Slobodan Milosevic
Toronto, Ontario
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Subject: U.S. CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: A BAD OMEN
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:37:31 +0200
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U.S. CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL: A BAD OMEN
The trial of Slobodan Milosevic threatens U.S.
sovereignty. The fact that this trial can be
carried out, in the name of international
justice, should cause all the Americans to cast a
wary eye on the whole principal of the U.N. War
Crimes Tribunal. The prosecution of Milosevic, a
democratically elected and properly disposed
leader of a sovereign country, could not be
carried out without full U.S. military and
financial support. Since we are the only world
superpower, the U.N. court becomes our court
under our control. But it is naive to believe our
world superpower status will last forever. The
precedence now being set will one day surely come
back to haunt us.
The U.S. today may enjoy dictating policy to
Yugoslavia and elsewhere around the world, but
danger lurks ahead. The administration adamantly
and correctly opposes our membership in the
permanent International Criminal Court because it
would have authority to exercise jurisdiction
over U.S. citizens without the consent of the
U.S. government. But how can we, with a straight
face, support doing the very same thing to a
small country, in opposition to its sovereignty,
courts, and constitution. This blatant
inconsistency and illicit use of force does not
go unnoticed and will sow the seeds of future
terrorist attacks against Americans or even war.
Money, as usual, is behind the Milosevic's
extradition. Bribing Serbian Prime Minister Zoran
Djindjic, a U.S.-sponsored leader, prompted
strong opposition from Yugoslavian Prime Minister
Zoran Zizic and Yugoslavian President Vojislav
Kostunica.
A Belgrade historian, Aleksa Djilas, was quoted
in The New York Times as saying: "We sold him for
money, and we won't really get very much money
for it. The U.S. is the natural leader of the
world, but how does it lead? This justifies the
worst American instincts, reinforcing this
bullying mentality.''
Milosevic obviously is no saint but neither are
the leader of the Croats, the Albanians or the
KLA. The NATO leaders who vastly expanded the
death and destruction in Yugoslavia with 78 days
of bombing in 1999 are certainly not blameless.
The $1.28 billion promised the puppet Yugoslavian
government is to be used to rebuild the cities
devastated by U.S. bombs. First, the American
people are forced to pay to bomb, to kill
innocent people and destroy cities, and then they
are forced to pay to repair the destruction,
while orchestrating a U.N. kangaroo court to
bring the guilty to justice at the Hague.
For all this to be accepted, the press and
internationalists have had to demonize Milosevic
to distance themselves from the horrors of others
including NATO.
NATO's air strikes assisted the KLA in cleansing
Kosovo of Serbs in the name of assisting Albanian
freedom fighters. No one should be surprised when
that is interpreted to mean tacit approval for
Albanian expansionism in Macedonia. While
terrorist attacks by former members of the KLA
against Serbs are ignored, the trial of the new
millennium, the trial of Milosevic, enjoys daily
support from the NATO-U.S. propaganda machine.
In our effort to stop an independent-minded and
uncooperative with the international community
president of a sovereign country, U.S. policy was
designed to support an equally if not worse
organization, the KLA. One of the conditions for
ending the civil war in Kosovo was the disbanding
of the KLA. But the very same ruthless leaders of
the KLA, now the Liberation Army of Presevo, are
now leading the insurrection in Macedonia without
NATO lifting a finger to stop it. NATO's failed
policy that precipitated the conflict now raging
in Macedonia is ignored. The U.N. War Tribunal
in the Hague should insult the intelligence of
all Americans. This court currently can only
achieve arrest and prosecution of leaders of
poor, small, or defeated nations. There will be
no war criminals brought to the Hague from China,
Russia, Britain, or the United States no matter
what the charges. But some day this approach to
world governing will backfire. The U.S. already
has suffered the humiliation of being kicked off
the U.N. Human Rights Commission and the
Narcotics Control Commission. Our arrogant policy
and attitude of superiority will continue to
elicit a smoldering hatred toward us and out of
sheer frustration will motivate even more
terrorist attacks against us.
Realizing the weakness of the charges against
Milosevic the court has quietly dropped the
charges for committing genocide. In a real trial,
evidence that the British and the United States
actually did business with Milosevic would be
permitted. But almost always, whoever is our
current most hated enemy, has received help and
assistance from us in the past. This was
certainly the case with Noriega and Saddam
Hussein and others, and now it's Milosevic.
Milosevic will be tried not before a jury of his
peers but before a panel of politically appointed
judges, all of whom were approved by the NATO
countries, the same countries which illegally
bombed Yugoslavia for 2 1/2 months. Under both
U.N. and international law the bombing of Serbia
and Kosovo was illegal. This was why NATO pursued
it and it was not done under a U.N. resolution.
Ironically, the mess in which we've been engaged
in Yugoslavia has the international establishment
supporting the side of Kosovo independence rather
than Serbian sovereignty. The principle of
independence and secession of smaller government
entities has been enhanced by the breakdown of
the Soviet system. If there's any hope that any
good could come of the quagmire into which we've
rapidly sunk in the Balkans, it is that small
independent nations are a viable and reasonable
option to conflicts around the world. But the
tragedy today is that no government is allowed to
exist without the blessing of the One World
Government leaders. The disobedience to the one
worlders and true independence is not to be
tolerated. That's what this trial is all about.
"Tow the line or else,'' is the message that is
being sent to the world.
NATO and U.S. leaders insist on playing with
fire, not fully understanding the significance of
the events now transpiring in the Balkans. If
policy is not quickly reversed, events could get
out of control and a major war in the region will
erupt.
We should fear and condemn any effort to escalate
the conflict with troops or money from any
outside sources. Our troops are already involved
and our money calls the shots. Extricating
ourselves will get more difficult every day we
stay. But the sooner we get out the better. We
should be listening more to candidate George
Bush's suggestion during the last campaign for
bringing our troops home from this region.
The Serbs, despite NATO's propaganda, will not
lightly accept the imprisonment of their
democratically elected (and properly disposed)
president no matter how bad he was. It is their
problem to deal with and resentment against us
will surely grow as conditions deteriorate. Mobs
have already attacked the American ambassador to
Macedonia for our inept interference in the
region. Death of American citizens are sure to
come if we persist in this failed policy.
Money and power has permitted the United States
the luxury of dictating terms for Milosevic's
prosecution, but our policy of arbitrary
interventions in the Balkans is sowing the seeds
of tomorrow's war. We cannot have it both ways.
We cannot expect to use the International
Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia when it pleases
us and oppose the permanent International
Criminal Court where the rules would apply to our
own acts of aggression. This cynical and arrogant
approach, whether it's dealing with Milosevic,
Hussein, or Kadafi, undermines peace and presents
a threat to our national security. Meanwhile,
American citizens must suffer the tax burden from
financing the dangerous meddling in European
affairs, while exposing our troops to danger.
A policy of nonintervention, friendship and
neutrality with all nations, engagement in true
free trade (unsubsidized trade with low tariffs)
is the best policy if we truly seek peace around
the world. That used to be the American way.
CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL (R-TEXAS)
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TRE PARTITI LOCALI CHIEDONO L'INTERNAZIONALIZZAZIONE
DEL "PROBLEMA" DELLA VOJVODINA
THREE LOCAL PARTIES URGE INTERNATIONALIZATION OF "VOJVODINA ISSUE"
NOVI SAD, July 25 (Tanjug) Three regional parties in Vojvodina
Wednesday expressed readiness to seek the internationalization of the
socalled Vojvodina issue if the ruling Democratic Opposition of Serbia
(DOS) kept on postponing the process of granting bigger autonomous
rights to the northern Serbian province.
League of Vojvodina Hungarians President Jozef Kasa said today
after a meeting in Novi Sad with leaders Nenad Canak of the
Socialdemocratic League and Miodrag Isakov of the Vojvodina Reformists,
that by internationalization he meant "seeking help from the
international community to realize our demands using all means except
military."
The leaders of the three leading, socalled authentic Vojvodina
parties, which are within the DOS coalition, agreed to ask the DOS
Presidency immediately to meet in session and open a debate on the
status of Vojvodina.
Moreover, the DOS Presidency is asked to secure in the republican
parliament the adoption of a law amending and abolishing legislature
which prevents the Constitutionally guaranteed autonomy of Vojvodina
before a new Serbian Constitution is adopted.
The three party leaders underscored that these demands did not
imply their exit from DOS.
Today's meeting was marked as the beginning of creating a wide
political front for fighting for the realization of Vojvodina's
autonomy.
All authentic Vojvodina parties will join this front, Isakov said, "but
also some Belgradebased parties which have provincial boards and support
the demands for resolving the problem of Vojvodina."
---
IL LEADER DELLA D.O.S. CANAK SOFFIA SULLA "AUTONOMIA"
VOJVODINA CITIZENS WILL DECIDE ABOUT VOJVODINA
BELGRADE, April 17 (Tanjug) The platform on Vojvodina's autonomy
is a legalistic document which should enable an acceptable functioning
of the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina until the Constitution is
amended, Vojvodina parliament Speaker and Vojvodina SocialDemocratic
League President Nenad Canak told the Belgrade daily Blic on Tuesday.
The platform has not been met with understanding in Belgrade,
Canak said, warning that "they should pay much greater care and
attention to what is coming from Novi Sad, so that it is not too late
one day."
"Who does not grant autonomy will have to grant republic status,
and who refuses to grant republic status will not be asked anything any
more," Canak said.
Unless we find partners in Serbia who will realize the importance
and complexity of the Vojvodina issue, "then the Vojvodina issue will
become a Vojvodina problem," Canak said.
"If the Vojvodina problem appears, then the Vojvodina parliament
will call a referendum in which Vojvodina citizens will declare
themselves on it," he said.
The plan is that Vojvodina's position will be resolved with a vote
at the Serbian parliament, but this will not pass, since Vojvodina is a
legal entity, Canak said.
---
L'AMBASCIATORE STATUNITENSE IN VISITA A NOVI SAD SOSTIENE LA
"PIENA AUTONOMIA"...
US AMBASSADOR VISITS NOVI SAD
NOVI SAD, Jun 4 (Tanjug) The Vojvodina (Serbia's northern
province) parliament Speaker Nenad Canak received Monday in provincial
capital Novi Sad the US Ambassador to Yugoslavia William Montgomery, the
provincial information secretariat said in a statement.
Canak briefed Montgomery of the proposals for amending about a
dozen Serbian laws submitted by the Vojvodina parliament to the Serbian
parliament, and of the lack of understanding with which the proposals
have been met.
Systemrelated changes in Serbia are slow, Canak said, pointing to
the failure to pass important laws, such as a law on privatization.
Canak reiterated Vojvodina's demand that the money from privatization be
reinvested immediately instead of being directed to Serbia's budget.
The talk also focused on redefining relations within the Yugoslav
federation and on Vojvodina's endeavors for determining its status and
for full autonomy.
---
DELEGAZIONE OSCE IN VISITA SOSTIENE IL "PROCESSO DI DECENTRAMENTO"...
OSCE DELEGATION VISITS SERBIA'S VOJVODINA PARLIAMENT
NOVI SAD, June 19 (Tanjug) A delegation of the Organisation for
Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) had talks on Tuesday at the
Assembly (parliament) of the Yugoslav federal unit Serbia's northern
Vojvodina province.
The delegation, headed by OSCE Yugoslav Mission Chief Stefano
Sannino, met with Vojvodina Parliament Speaker Nenad Canak. A Vojvodina
government statement quotes them as reviewing the political and economic
situation in Vojvodina and the rest of the country in the light of new
Serbian legislation, and rights acquired by the provincial parliament in
the decentralisation process.
---
IL PARLAMENTO UNGHERESE PASSA LA LEGGE PER LA PROTEZIONE
DEGLI UNGHERESI ALL'ESTERO...
LJAJIC: BELGRADE TO MONITOR CONTROVERSIAL HUNGARIAN LAW
BELGRADE, June 20 (Sense/AFP) Yugoslavia said today it would
monitor a controversial law passed by the Hungarian parliament yesterday
offering benefits to some 3.5 million ethnic Hungarians living abroad.
The legislation grants ethnic Hungarians or Magyars living in
neighbouring states the right to work legally for three months in
Hungary, to claim social and health care rights, free university
education, training courses and travel allowances.
"If the purpose of the law is to preserve the identity of ethnic
Hungarians in other countries, including Yugoslavia, we will not look on
it with caution. But we will monitor its implementation and react
accordingly," Yugoslav Minister for Ethnic Minorities Rasim Ljajic
announced.
Yugoslavia has an ethnic Hungarian minority in the north of the
country but has reacted to the bill with less concern than other
neighbouring states - Romania and Slovakia.
Ljajic expressed understanding for their misgivings and insisted
Yugoslavia would be cautious, monitor implementation of the law and act
accordingly.
In many ways the attitude of Hungary's other neighbours differs
from that of Yugoslavia, the minister for ethnic minorities explained,
commenting, "We don't want and are not in a position to open up a new
front towards Hungary."
"There are at least three good reasons for this," he added:
"Hungary is our neighbour, it is our gateway to Europe and we have a
considerable Hungarian minority."
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DEL "PROBLEMA" DELLA VOJVODINA
THREE LOCAL PARTIES URGE INTERNATIONALIZATION OF "VOJVODINA ISSUE"
NOVI SAD, July 25 (Tanjug) Three regional parties in Vojvodina
Wednesday expressed readiness to seek the internationalization of the
socalled Vojvodina issue if the ruling Democratic Opposition of Serbia
(DOS) kept on postponing the process of granting bigger autonomous
rights to the northern Serbian province.
League of Vojvodina Hungarians President Jozef Kasa said today
after a meeting in Novi Sad with leaders Nenad Canak of the
Socialdemocratic League and Miodrag Isakov of the Vojvodina Reformists,
that by internationalization he meant "seeking help from the
international community to realize our demands using all means except
military."
The leaders of the three leading, socalled authentic Vojvodina
parties, which are within the DOS coalition, agreed to ask the DOS
Presidency immediately to meet in session and open a debate on the
status of Vojvodina.
Moreover, the DOS Presidency is asked to secure in the republican
parliament the adoption of a law amending and abolishing legislature
which prevents the Constitutionally guaranteed autonomy of Vojvodina
before a new Serbian Constitution is adopted.
The three party leaders underscored that these demands did not
imply their exit from DOS.
Today's meeting was marked as the beginning of creating a wide
political front for fighting for the realization of Vojvodina's
autonomy.
All authentic Vojvodina parties will join this front, Isakov said, "but
also some Belgradebased parties which have provincial boards and support
the demands for resolving the problem of Vojvodina."
---
IL LEADER DELLA D.O.S. CANAK SOFFIA SULLA "AUTONOMIA"
VOJVODINA CITIZENS WILL DECIDE ABOUT VOJVODINA
BELGRADE, April 17 (Tanjug) The platform on Vojvodina's autonomy
is a legalistic document which should enable an acceptable functioning
of the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina until the Constitution is
amended, Vojvodina parliament Speaker and Vojvodina SocialDemocratic
League President Nenad Canak told the Belgrade daily Blic on Tuesday.
The platform has not been met with understanding in Belgrade,
Canak said, warning that "they should pay much greater care and
attention to what is coming from Novi Sad, so that it is not too late
one day."
"Who does not grant autonomy will have to grant republic status,
and who refuses to grant republic status will not be asked anything any
more," Canak said.
Unless we find partners in Serbia who will realize the importance
and complexity of the Vojvodina issue, "then the Vojvodina issue will
become a Vojvodina problem," Canak said.
"If the Vojvodina problem appears, then the Vojvodina parliament
will call a referendum in which Vojvodina citizens will declare
themselves on it," he said.
The plan is that Vojvodina's position will be resolved with a vote
at the Serbian parliament, but this will not pass, since Vojvodina is a
legal entity, Canak said.
---
L'AMBASCIATORE STATUNITENSE IN VISITA A NOVI SAD SOSTIENE LA
"PIENA AUTONOMIA"...
US AMBASSADOR VISITS NOVI SAD
NOVI SAD, Jun 4 (Tanjug) The Vojvodina (Serbia's northern
province) parliament Speaker Nenad Canak received Monday in provincial
capital Novi Sad the US Ambassador to Yugoslavia William Montgomery, the
provincial information secretariat said in a statement.
Canak briefed Montgomery of the proposals for amending about a
dozen Serbian laws submitted by the Vojvodina parliament to the Serbian
parliament, and of the lack of understanding with which the proposals
have been met.
Systemrelated changes in Serbia are slow, Canak said, pointing to
the failure to pass important laws, such as a law on privatization.
Canak reiterated Vojvodina's demand that the money from privatization be
reinvested immediately instead of being directed to Serbia's budget.
The talk also focused on redefining relations within the Yugoslav
federation and on Vojvodina's endeavors for determining its status and
for full autonomy.
---
DELEGAZIONE OSCE IN VISITA SOSTIENE IL "PROCESSO DI DECENTRAMENTO"...
OSCE DELEGATION VISITS SERBIA'S VOJVODINA PARLIAMENT
NOVI SAD, June 19 (Tanjug) A delegation of the Organisation for
Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) had talks on Tuesday at the
Assembly (parliament) of the Yugoslav federal unit Serbia's northern
Vojvodina province.
The delegation, headed by OSCE Yugoslav Mission Chief Stefano
Sannino, met with Vojvodina Parliament Speaker Nenad Canak. A Vojvodina
government statement quotes them as reviewing the political and economic
situation in Vojvodina and the rest of the country in the light of new
Serbian legislation, and rights acquired by the provincial parliament in
the decentralisation process.
---
IL PARLAMENTO UNGHERESE PASSA LA LEGGE PER LA PROTEZIONE
DEGLI UNGHERESI ALL'ESTERO...
LJAJIC: BELGRADE TO MONITOR CONTROVERSIAL HUNGARIAN LAW
BELGRADE, June 20 (Sense/AFP) Yugoslavia said today it would
monitor a controversial law passed by the Hungarian parliament yesterday
offering benefits to some 3.5 million ethnic Hungarians living abroad.
The legislation grants ethnic Hungarians or Magyars living in
neighbouring states the right to work legally for three months in
Hungary, to claim social and health care rights, free university
education, training courses and travel allowances.
"If the purpose of the law is to preserve the identity of ethnic
Hungarians in other countries, including Yugoslavia, we will not look on
it with caution. But we will monitor its implementation and react
accordingly," Yugoslav Minister for Ethnic Minorities Rasim Ljajic
announced.
Yugoslavia has an ethnic Hungarian minority in the north of the
country but has reacted to the bill with less concern than other
neighbouring states - Romania and Slovakia.
Ljajic expressed understanding for their misgivings and insisted
Yugoslavia would be cautious, monitor implementation of the law and act
accordingly.
In many ways the attitude of Hungary's other neighbours differs
from that of Yugoslavia, the minister for ethnic minorities explained,
commenting, "We don't want and are not in a position to open up a new
front towards Hungary."
"There are at least three good reasons for this," he added:
"Hungary is our neighbour, it is our gateway to Europe and we have a
considerable Hungarian minority."
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WAR CRIMES AND THE HAGUE TRIBUNAL
July 30, 2001
[Stan Goff is a Retired U.S. Special Forces Master
Sargent, an author, Organizer for the North Carolina
Alliance for Democracy and a member of the
International Committeee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic.
(ICDSM)]
What do you call someone who pays officials to break
the law, threatens people with violence if they don't
do what he demands, spreads outrageous lies to impugn
people's reputations, and participates in a plot to
illegally take an unwilling person out of the country
in captivity?
Guilty of bribery, extortion, slander and kidnapping.
What do you call a government which does precisely
those things?
The United States in Yugoslavia.
Let's get something straight here. The International
Tribunal at the Hague is no more an impartial
judiciary (1) than Geraldo Rivera is a neurosurgeon,
and Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. These are
just simply facts, and the thing that--even at
50--still amazes my ass is the sheep-like, gullible,
we-just-fell-off-the-turnip-truck acceptance of the
capitalist media's horse-manure by comfortable fellow
Americans.
United States military troops are occupying the
Balkans, many of them with relatives who might read
this, and very few people seem the least bit inclined
to find out what's really going on there. So they
listen to CNN, read the 'New York Times' or the 'News
and Observer,' watch PBS, or listen to NPR, brought to
you by... name your favorite agribusiness or weapons
contractor... and believe them.
I've got a news flash for you, folks. The media lie.
They lie early and often, and they keep on telling the
same lies over and over, apparently in the
well-founded hope that we will simply and finally
equate repetition with accuracy. (2)
Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. Nor was he a
dictator. (3)
Until the US started a massive campaign of extortion,
bribery and election-rigging in Serbia, he won his
elections fair and square--unlike the current de facto
President of the United States. Nor did Milsoevic ever
lead the non-existent movement for Greater Serbia. Nor
do Serbs collectively "share" any blame for whatever
flavor-of-the-day atrocity is being invented by the
IMF, the State Department, NATO Headquarters in
Brussels, or that fake Tribunal.
Serbs are as fractious and pluralistic as any group,
especially about politics, deeply split even today
between nationalists and socialists. What they are
not, contrary to the recent resurgence of
Serb-bashing, is self-pitying and paranoid. They are
one of the most stoic, and tolerant, people in Europe.
The distortions that underwrite this latest violation
of Yugoslav and International law--the veritable
kidnapping of a former head of state--would make
Joseph Goebbels blush. Crimes were invented to fit the
punishment of the Serbs. Allegations were reported as
facts, then referenced later as if they really were
facts. The mounting evidence of a giant hoax in almost
every case has been completely ignored by capitalist
media. The effect--intended I think--is to create an
impression so overwhelming of Serbian guilt that to
question it is to be regarded as a miscreant holocaust
denier. Guilt by analogy. Milosevic equals Hitler,
therefore defending Serbians equals defending Nazis (a
huge irony here, since Serbs were tenacious and
fearless fighters against the Third Reich). There's
only one little rub. The Holocaust has been well
documented by the physical evidence. The Serbians'
guilt, and that of Milosevic, has not.
But skepticism, fact-checking, and logic have become
forbidden foreign languages in the United States,
especially our (laugh track here) "free" press.
The overwhelming evidence is that there was never any
coordinated campaign of genocide or ethnic cleansing
by Serbs, no massacres at either Racek or Srebrenica,
and never any such thing as Serbian "rape camps." The
Kosovo violence was initiated by Albanian
heroin-gangsters, who named themselves the Kosovo
Liberation Army once they started to get weapons and
training from German and US Intelligence. The mass
exodus out of Kosovo was not triggered by Serb
violence, but by NATO bombing. The reports of 100,000
Kosovar Albanians killed has yet to be corroborated
with bodies, and is being quietly scaled ever downward
as the bodies fail to appear. Racek was shown to be
staged. The bodies from the Srebrenica "massacre" were
never located either, and in fact many of the
"missing" later turned up alive and accounted for in
Bosnian Muslim combat units outside Srebrenica. The US
and the psuedo-Tribunal have an answer for the missing
evidence, those tens of thousands of corpses, that is.
Right under the noses of US surveillance
satellites--and I have seen imagery from them that can
spot a motorcycle and rider--the crafty Serbs,
undetected, moved thousands of decomposing bodies to
other locations... still to be discovered. (4)
Right!
The break-up of Yugoslavia has been largely due to the
efforts of US and German gambits, with substantial
help from the International Monetary Fund, since the
late 1980's. To justify this economic warfare, this
trampling of sovereignty, this military aggression,
these massive violations by NATO and the US of the Law
of Land Warfare and the Geneva and Hague Conventions,
and the military occupation of the Balkans, our
government and its international financier pals have
had to concoct an elaborate Manichean fantasy with
Serbs as the heavy.
Don't take my word for it, but don't look for a
one-paragraph rebuttal either. Understanding requires
study and work. If you're inclined to swim upstream in
this perennial flood of stubborn American ignorance,
read the research and reports from Michel
Chussodovsky, Diane Johnstone, and Jared Israel - none
of them Serbian or Yugoslav, and all of them proud
progressives. They are archived at
www.emperors-clothes.com . An apt name for that web
site, if ever there was one. (5) (6) & (7)
The Hague Tribunal is about war crimes, all right.
It's about covering up the war crimes of the North
American Treaty Organization and the US Government.
- SG
***
Stan Goff is author of "Hideous Dream: A Soldier's
Memoir of the U.S. Invasion of Haiti," Soft Skull
Press, 2000. The book is available online at
www.softskull.com . For a review of 'Hideous Dream'
that appeared in the 'Chicago Tribune,' go to
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/bookreviews/bell-on-goff.htm
Mr. Goff's article, 'In Your Name: A Soldier's Story,'
can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/waronthe.htm
Further reading:
1) 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?' by Christopher
Black. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
2) 'Media in Serbia' by Diana Johnstone Can be read at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/SerbMedi.html
3) 'Official German Documents Contradict Humanitarian
Claims in Kosovo'. In these documents, the German
Courts and Foreign Ministry ruled on requests made by
ethnic Albanians from Kosovo that they be granted
status as refugees from persecution. The rulings were
prior to the onset of NATO bombing in March, 1999. The
findings: the claims of perseuction were false. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/german/Germany.html
4) 'Were NATO's Aerial Photo's of Mass Graves Faked?'
by Jared Israel at
http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/graves.htm
5) 'The UN appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo'
by Michel Chossudovsky. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/unandthe.htm
6) 'COLLECTIVE GUILT AND COLLECTIVE INNOCENCE,' by
Diane Johnstone at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/GUILT.html
7) 'Barbarians At The Gate,' by Jared Israel. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/Barbaria.html
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WAR CRIMES AND THE HAGUE TRIBUNAL
July 30, 2001
[Stan Goff is a Retired U.S. Special Forces Master
Sargent, an author, Organizer for the North Carolina
Alliance for Democracy and a member of the
International Committeee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic.
(ICDSM)]
What do you call someone who pays officials to break
the law, threatens people with violence if they don't
do what he demands, spreads outrageous lies to impugn
people's reputations, and participates in a plot to
illegally take an unwilling person out of the country
in captivity?
Guilty of bribery, extortion, slander and kidnapping.
What do you call a government which does precisely
those things?
The United States in Yugoslavia.
Let's get something straight here. The International
Tribunal at the Hague is no more an impartial
judiciary (1) than Geraldo Rivera is a neurosurgeon,
and Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. These are
just simply facts, and the thing that--even at
50--still amazes my ass is the sheep-like, gullible,
we-just-fell-off-the-turnip-truck acceptance of the
capitalist media's horse-manure by comfortable fellow
Americans.
United States military troops are occupying the
Balkans, many of them with relatives who might read
this, and very few people seem the least bit inclined
to find out what's really going on there. So they
listen to CNN, read the 'New York Times' or the 'News
and Observer,' watch PBS, or listen to NPR, brought to
you by... name your favorite agribusiness or weapons
contractor... and believe them.
I've got a news flash for you, folks. The media lie.
They lie early and often, and they keep on telling the
same lies over and over, apparently in the
well-founded hope that we will simply and finally
equate repetition with accuracy. (2)
Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. Nor was he a
dictator. (3)
Until the US started a massive campaign of extortion,
bribery and election-rigging in Serbia, he won his
elections fair and square--unlike the current de facto
President of the United States. Nor did Milsoevic ever
lead the non-existent movement for Greater Serbia. Nor
do Serbs collectively "share" any blame for whatever
flavor-of-the-day atrocity is being invented by the
IMF, the State Department, NATO Headquarters in
Brussels, or that fake Tribunal.
Serbs are as fractious and pluralistic as any group,
especially about politics, deeply split even today
between nationalists and socialists. What they are
not, contrary to the recent resurgence of
Serb-bashing, is self-pitying and paranoid. They are
one of the most stoic, and tolerant, people in Europe.
The distortions that underwrite this latest violation
of Yugoslav and International law--the veritable
kidnapping of a former head of state--would make
Joseph Goebbels blush. Crimes were invented to fit the
punishment of the Serbs. Allegations were reported as
facts, then referenced later as if they really were
facts. The mounting evidence of a giant hoax in almost
every case has been completely ignored by capitalist
media. The effect--intended I think--is to create an
impression so overwhelming of Serbian guilt that to
question it is to be regarded as a miscreant holocaust
denier. Guilt by analogy. Milosevic equals Hitler,
therefore defending Serbians equals defending Nazis (a
huge irony here, since Serbs were tenacious and
fearless fighters against the Third Reich). There's
only one little rub. The Holocaust has been well
documented by the physical evidence. The Serbians'
guilt, and that of Milosevic, has not.
But skepticism, fact-checking, and logic have become
forbidden foreign languages in the United States,
especially our (laugh track here) "free" press.
The overwhelming evidence is that there was never any
coordinated campaign of genocide or ethnic cleansing
by Serbs, no massacres at either Racek or Srebrenica,
and never any such thing as Serbian "rape camps." The
Kosovo violence was initiated by Albanian
heroin-gangsters, who named themselves the Kosovo
Liberation Army once they started to get weapons and
training from German and US Intelligence. The mass
exodus out of Kosovo was not triggered by Serb
violence, but by NATO bombing. The reports of 100,000
Kosovar Albanians killed has yet to be corroborated
with bodies, and is being quietly scaled ever downward
as the bodies fail to appear. Racek was shown to be
staged. The bodies from the Srebrenica "massacre" were
never located either, and in fact many of the
"missing" later turned up alive and accounted for in
Bosnian Muslim combat units outside Srebrenica. The US
and the psuedo-Tribunal have an answer for the missing
evidence, those tens of thousands of corpses, that is.
Right under the noses of US surveillance
satellites--and I have seen imagery from them that can
spot a motorcycle and rider--the crafty Serbs,
undetected, moved thousands of decomposing bodies to
other locations... still to be discovered. (4)
Right!
The break-up of Yugoslavia has been largely due to the
efforts of US and German gambits, with substantial
help from the International Monetary Fund, since the
late 1980's. To justify this economic warfare, this
trampling of sovereignty, this military aggression,
these massive violations by NATO and the US of the Law
of Land Warfare and the Geneva and Hague Conventions,
and the military occupation of the Balkans, our
government and its international financier pals have
had to concoct an elaborate Manichean fantasy with
Serbs as the heavy.
Don't take my word for it, but don't look for a
one-paragraph rebuttal either. Understanding requires
study and work. If you're inclined to swim upstream in
this perennial flood of stubborn American ignorance,
read the research and reports from Michel
Chussodovsky, Diane Johnstone, and Jared Israel - none
of them Serbian or Yugoslav, and all of them proud
progressives. They are archived at
www.emperors-clothes.com . An apt name for that web
site, if ever there was one. (5) (6) & (7)
The Hague Tribunal is about war crimes, all right.
It's about covering up the war crimes of the North
American Treaty Organization and the US Government.
- SG
***
Stan Goff is author of "Hideous Dream: A Soldier's
Memoir of the U.S. Invasion of Haiti," Soft Skull
Press, 2000. The book is available online at
www.softskull.com . For a review of 'Hideous Dream'
that appeared in the 'Chicago Tribune,' go to
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/bookreviews/bell-on-goff.htm
Mr. Goff's article, 'In Your Name: A Soldier's Story,'
can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/waronthe.htm
Further reading:
1) 'An Impartial Tribunal? Really?' by Christopher
Black. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/Impartial.htm
2) 'Media in Serbia' by Diana Johnstone Can be read at
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/SerbMedi.html
3) 'Official German Documents Contradict Humanitarian
Claims in Kosovo'. In these documents, the German
Courts and Foreign Ministry ruled on requests made by
ethnic Albanians from Kosovo that they be granted
status as refugees from persecution. The rulings were
prior to the onset of NATO bombing in March, 1999. The
findings: the claims of perseuction were false. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/german/Germany.html
4) 'Were NATO's Aerial Photo's of Mass Graves Faked?'
by Jared Israel at
http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/graves.htm
5) 'The UN appoints an alleged war criminal in Kosovo'
by Michel Chossudovsky. Can be read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/unandthe.htm
6) 'COLLECTIVE GUILT AND COLLECTIVE INNOCENCE,' by
Diane Johnstone at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/GUILT.html
7) 'Barbarians At The Gate,' by Jared Israel. Can be
read at
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/Barbaria.html
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